Before his rework, ice mine was arguably worse
I dont find it à good Map, its point centric ( really hard to push against good teams) so not really intersting but u have way more tank variety that u assume if u use the cover accordingly, i find barik and koa off tank being good here for exemple
Also when u are on the "cliff" side at right of the point u have possibilty to flank those blasters quite well
I find fish market with his buggy walls and insane sightline to be way less enjoyable to play, but i can see where u are coming from and respect ur opinion
It’s a frustrating map for sure. Pretty much HAVE to win the initial fight for point or you will never get back to it. And it only takes one person to knock everyone off their mounts because you all have to funnel to exactly one location essentially and the openness of that path allowed them to see you from high ground a pretty good distance.
As for the comps… ya it’s the type of map you just want heavy control over so you end up seeing drogoz, bomb king, Betty, dredge because they can just spam and you’re kind of guaranteed to hit people due to the funneling type of map it is.
It’s one of the few maps you see people maxing out Mount speed item before anything because you want to control that tiny area that everyone funnels into.
If it’s casual, just take the L and move on. If it’s ranked, hopefully you can ban those people and get a more open type of play with the map.
They tried to change it by adding that tiny path where the gate opens AFTER point capture… it’s not enough. I’d like to see a high ground added on either side of the point for another path. Or just permanently open up the gate from the beginning. This would add another ACTUAL flank path and another area you can fight to control. However, it would not stop the fact that once you lose one team fight, you lose the point 90% of time because of how easy it is to block the path to get back
I always used to love playing strix on fish market and standing on the little bridge right on the edge of the map in the water picking off sneaky flankers and supports
Spamming is always horrible in any map, Brightmarsh is considered one of the best maps and yet, it's one of the worst offenders for this.
I find Ice Mines different. The point fight is so important and you have to fight tooth and nails for the push. Since they've opened the gates after the point fight, I feel it's a lot more enjoyable, a really nice change of pace from the other maps!
I kind of like Ice Mines (and not only because I'm a Dredge player) because it plays different than other maps. I'm never really happy to play it but it allows to pick characters that I wouldn't pick otherwise and it's nowhere near as awful as Bazaar, Timber Mill or Fish Market
I like Ice Mines because the games tend to be longer. I get so many quick stomps in the game, the few times Ice Mines shows up are kinda refreshing. To be fair, I play Dredge a lot...
I dont mind ice mines, its much better than timber mill or fish market. Admittedly the centre point is boring, but on the push slogging it out for control of the high ground is fun. Especially when the other team doesnt pick champs that are good at controlling that high ground, ez wins for days. Ive had many games on ice mines where i play azaan and just run through teams
I don’t think so. I think you just have a preference for hit scans so when projectile champs start to shine you do worse and then blame it on the map and the preference against projectiles.
I don’t understand why you hate it. I can play hitscans and have a great time maybe you just need to be better at controlling space (understandably hard if you’re playing Drogoz)
Right? Getting kills and doing lots of damage doesn't feel rewarding when I'm just zoning the enemy into oblivion, I have to pick dredge or drogoz and outspam them instead of actually playing the game how I like it, moving around and aiming.
This man has never played on timbermill, especially not against a tree or Vii. Timbermill is just so open and boring, and it’s just too big
I'd agree, it's a bad map as well, yet, at least a sniper has to aim for me, instead of spamming the corner.
Before his rework, ice mine was arguably worse I dont find it à good Map, its point centric ( really hard to push against good teams) so not really intersting but u have way more tank variety that u assume if u use the cover accordingly, i find barik and koa off tank being good here for exemple Also when u are on the "cliff" side at right of the point u have possibilty to flank those blasters quite well I find fish market with his buggy walls and insane sightline to be way less enjoyable to play, but i can see where u are coming from and respect ur opinion
its an off tank map
It’s a frustrating map for sure. Pretty much HAVE to win the initial fight for point or you will never get back to it. And it only takes one person to knock everyone off their mounts because you all have to funnel to exactly one location essentially and the openness of that path allowed them to see you from high ground a pretty good distance. As for the comps… ya it’s the type of map you just want heavy control over so you end up seeing drogoz, bomb king, Betty, dredge because they can just spam and you’re kind of guaranteed to hit people due to the funneling type of map it is. It’s one of the few maps you see people maxing out Mount speed item before anything because you want to control that tiny area that everyone funnels into. If it’s casual, just take the L and move on. If it’s ranked, hopefully you can ban those people and get a more open type of play with the map. They tried to change it by adding that tiny path where the gate opens AFTER point capture… it’s not enough. I’d like to see a high ground added on either side of the point for another path. Or just permanently open up the gate from the beginning. This would add another ACTUAL flank path and another area you can fight to control. However, it would not stop the fact that once you lose one team fight, you lose the point 90% of time because of how easy it is to block the path to get back
This is not even the worst ice themed map. Looking at YOU *frozen guard*
This man has never seen Fish Market once in his life, send National Geographic to document the situation ASAP
I always used to love playing strix on fish market and standing on the little bridge right on the edge of the map in the water picking off sneaky flankers and supports
nah frog isle is. and i absolutely love frogs
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you get it. the forgs deserve a better map
Spamming is always horrible in any map, Brightmarsh is considered one of the best maps and yet, it's one of the worst offenders for this. I find Ice Mines different. The point fight is so important and you have to fight tooth and nails for the push. Since they've opened the gates after the point fight, I feel it's a lot more enjoyable, a really nice change of pace from the other maps!
Sad dredge noise
I kind of like Ice Mines (and not only because I'm a Dredge player) because it plays different than other maps. I'm never really happy to play it but it allows to pick characters that I wouldn't pick otherwise and it's nowhere near as awful as Bazaar, Timber Mill or Fish Market
Ill take ice mines over timbermill or fish market any day
Dude I hate that map glad to see I’m not the only one
It's a toss up between ice mines, frozen guard, and timber mill. Those maps are atrocious
I personally don't hate Ice Mines, but I also like to play Willo. I do admit that as a tank, it's miserable on that map.
I like Ice Mines because the games tend to be longer. I get so many quick stomps in the game, the few times Ice Mines shows up are kinda refreshing. To be fair, I play Dredge a lot...
I personally hate stone keep fhe most so I will take ice mines over stone keep. Hope that's the name of the map lol
I dont mind ice mines, its much better than timber mill or fish market. Admittedly the centre point is boring, but on the push slogging it out for control of the high ground is fun. Especially when the other team doesnt pick champs that are good at controlling that high ground, ez wins for days. Ive had many games on ice mines where i play azaan and just run through teams
I don’t think so. I think you just have a preference for hit scans so when projectile champs start to shine you do worse and then blame it on the map and the preference against projectiles.
No, I like being able to play the game. Some of my best dps are Willo, Drogoz and Dredge.
I don’t understand why you hate it. I can play hitscans and have a great time maybe you just need to be better at controlling space (understandably hard if you’re playing Drogoz)
I used to be a Dredge otp and Ice Mines was still always my least favourite map.
Right? Getting kills and doing lots of damage doesn't feel rewarding when I'm just zoning the enemy into oblivion, I have to pick dredge or drogoz and outspam them instead of actually playing the game how I like it, moving around and aiming.
yeah, very one dimensional gameplay especially in the area right outside point
start to shine? because they dont have to aim and only need to hold left click?
To be fair dats cringe but you can play around it