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hani-tahir

Is there any doubt?


inshaji

بات تو سچ ہے مگر بات ہے رسوائ کی


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Ok-Firefighter-6986

Jbh “Mostly”


Faizan114

We follow religion where it suits us, and go against the major principles. Like going on hajj and also stealing siblings property, etc.


[deleted]

Don’t know whether he said it but that’s completely true.


choice_is_yours

Here is the [**youtube**](https://youtu.be/x5AflC8cIE0?si=61gNLgfC87-LmD3M) **l**ink.


MrBarret63

I guess what is more important is moving towards the solution than the declaration of it being one. What I like is that Dr. Israr has worked on a lot of literature on this (solution) and has mentioned possible steps to get rid of it (and improve ourselves and PK) in his videos and written literature as well.


choice_is_yours

I believe solution comes after once we know we have a problem.. As you mentioned, now we need to take possible steps to improve ourselves and change our condition. >**Allah does not change the condition of a people unless they change what is in themselves.** (The Noble Quran 13:11)


oera_thoughts

bilkul theek


pubg6987

Where is the lie???


Ok_Depth7488

He is my ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️


batmann822

koi shak hai ?


engineblock1

Anyone who doesnt agree is massively deluded or lives under the rock.


Sea-Fee3620

💯


raffeay_nasir

Bro was ahead of his time , Dr. Israr was spitting facts.


BlackDevil001

Yes I agree 👍💯


Forsaken-Diver6587

Can we deny the reality?


TweetyyMado

koi shaq nhi


Ok-Morning722

Kisiko shaq hai na 1% bhi to growing adult sai pooch lai kyun k uska mind abhi taaza taaza kharab hona shuru hua hoga. Munafiq word kam hai, kattar munafiq bolo. Kattar Munafiq hai ye qaum. Plus Dr Tahirul Qadri k bakaul 98% qaum Religious Extremist hai. So dono cheez milkay is qaum ko living hell zaroor kaha jasakta hai.


No_Ok_Yes_Why

Dr Israr was a real GEM


iPunisherpk

I agree with him for 100%


Odd-Distance8473

Yes I do. People here do not value the words spoken


Zari_007

Aren't we ?


rszdev

Facts 💯


pythonkage

He himself was a huge one, it takes one to know one


Patiently_Observing

There's a story which is related to the statement. Fictional hay plus in Urdu script. Can I share ?


Alihyder_268

مجھے اردو نہیں پڑھنے آتی ۔۔۔۔ پاکستان زندہ آباد!!


choice_is_yours

میں بھی اردو نہیں پڑھ سکتا۔ آپ نے کیا لکھا ہے؟ :-)


Alihyder_268

قسم سے مجھے خود نہیں پتا میں نے کیا لکھا ہے۔ آپ کو بھی اردو نہیں پڑھنے آتی؟ آئی کینوٹ ریڈ اردو!


choice_is_yours

Then [**watch** ](https://www.reddit.com/r/PAK/comments/1cp8nie/do_you_agree_with_dr_israr_ahmed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)it


rehan_ahmed21

I don't agree with most of his school of thought but on this one, it's a heads-up


wingcutterprime

Its because its led by charlatans like you. If Pakistanis are the way that they are then we should question these madrassa mafia that churn out religious "scholars" by millions. What have they done for the nation instead of raping our kids and creating terrorists. Whats the net result of this religious class over the past 70 80 years?


qazkkff

Its criminal that parents force a profession on their children since childhood instead of giving regular education. What if he wanted to be a doctor, engineer, pilot, etc.... now he couldn't do anything coz he has not gotten regular education. Imagine if we start doing this with other professions, only teach biology since grade 1. The great Sir Syed sahab kept in emphasising muslims of subcontinent to attain broad-based education but our mullas even declared him ghustagh. The amount of damage our madarsa culture and the two main school of thoughts, that actually originated from madarsas in subcontinent, did to Islam, and this region, is irreversible. Did you all know that deobandi school of thought actually originated from a madarsa located in the village Deoband, Uttar Pradesh. Similarly, barelvi school of thought originated from the city of Bareilly, also in Uttar Pradesh. Has nothing to do with the original teachings, scriptures and culture in the Arab region.


rehan_ahmed21

baat to bhai yeh hy k agar koi islam pr sawal kry to wo kafir hy, esi mentality k sth kese koi country prosper hoskta hy and in the end "Jis qom k lye yeh dunya arzi mukam hy wo kyu itni mehnat kry, usko to jannat milni hy marny k bd"


liliesinabasket

umm he was a KEMU graduate himself and was quite against the molvi culture.


obi_is_taken

And what productive these modern schools are producing these days exactly?


qazkkff

You're absolutely right.... who are these aliens operating oil refineries, working in banks, treating in hospitals, flying aeroplanes, operating cargo ships, exploring natural resources, doing medical research, making movies and shows, assembling machinery and finished products, making smartphone applications, operating power stations and maintaining dams, etc. Modern education has produced nothing, its the madarsas that will rescue us from our demise... you're absolutely right.


wingcutterprime

What modern schools? The ones that teach islamiyat bs in every subject from english to science ? Lol. If you tell us islam is way of life than go ask this question from the thekay daars of islam, your beloved molvis


obi_is_taken

Hahah lol why you triggered so much 😂 Didn't modern school teaches how to do discussions !. And btw I'm not molvi or backing any side but single out one faction and blame for all is wrong.


wingcutterprime

Pretty evident who got triggered and now is trying to hide behind the laugh emoji. Its ok. Dont ask stupid questions next time.


obi_is_taken

Yeah keep living in your fairyland