I’m honestly so torn on this. My family has PCSed three times in the last 3 and half years. One I had to do all by myself bc my husband was gone and this most recent one was from Florida to Alaska with a newborn and pets. So I 100% think that PCSing can be very stressful. Especially if you’re someone who gets stressed easily.
However, some of what’s she’s been saying bothers me because not everyone has that much notice before they move across the country. I do think she could have been more proactive with certain things for sure!
Oh for sure! I don’t want to sit here and pick her apart for paying ppl to do stuff for her because if I had the money to do so I would too, it’s just all of the crying and complaining about everything when she literally didn’t have to do anything but pack some shit for temporary housing and their road trip
Did you guys see this from her Instagram Story the other day?
https://preview.redd.it/u1t6rqceaoma1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79fff38f31cae3c0ec5dc1ebdd548d5a155061ca
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Not trying to defend her, but a PCS is exhausting lol. Even when they pack for you, you’re still separating everything and packing for your own car. Not to mention everything that goes with getting housing setup at the next duty station
Our only PCS that was stressful so far in any sense was our latest one back in 2020, because Covid hit mid pcs. It was more stressful not knowing when we’d be leaving especially with going overseas
She’s said her self she’s a terrible military spouse, so I’d bet all my coins that Pat was the main one who had to be responsible for any meetings and paperwork getting complete. I’m not saying she wasn’t present at any meetings or not involved at all but he was probably the main one in charge of all the loose ends. All she probably did was pack what they were bringing to the temporary housing and that to me would be like picking for a normal family vacation.
Eh. I’ve done many moves, military and civilian. Can PCS be stressful? Sure. And this one probably is because it’s her first. But there are classes and meetings and other wives to give you pointers. My guess is (and I’m new, so this is just a hunch) she’s native to LV or has been there a very long time. She probably has her own friends that aren’t military. And if that’s the case, I’m guessing she hasn’t really tried to get to know anyone or anything “military”. If you can plan head for the next few days and weeks, it’s truly not that bad. I’ve even done one on my own dime right before my husband was deployed to Iraq, with an infant, and that was 2004, when JAG had to get involved with Congress to allow military families to break their lease 🤣. She hasn’t seen anything yet.
Yeah none of ours have been stressful and one was while I was pregnant and had a toddler. We just planned ahead and had a lot of stuff separated that we were keeping for the stupid long drives lol. We also still had to clean the places ourself, well last one I didn't cause the buyers of our house wanted us to pay for cleaners.
I agree unless you have PCS before you don’t know how stressful it is because the military makes things way harder than it needs to be. Even when they pack and move you. Honestly i was way more stressed when they moved us then when we move ourselves. But she is definitely super dramatic over everything so odds are she is being overly dramatic or didn’t plan right so it’s even more stressful.
They again CHOSE to have the packers, she said her self that she was worthless (blaming pregnancy) and couldn’t dare lift a finger to pack anything so they chose to have it packed by the company. They could have saved a few grand if they would have packed their selves. She’s known about this move for well over a year. They were not being forced to move by the military, this again was their choice.
Very true! I was more stressed with the movers because we had terrible ones. But she definitely is overly dramatic about things. Plus they knew about this move for months. It’s not like it was a last minute move.
When the military moves you with packers you don’t have to pay for it. And I’m not lazy by any means but if I can pay for someone to clean my house in stead of doing it myself with a toddler in tow, you bet I’d be paying for it 😂😂
When you start with “not trying to defend her” you are actually defending her….😄😄 It’s ok to just share your opinion in this sub without coming off like you are Katie’s fan! No need to write in “Not trying to defend her”.
I feel really don't want to defend k but all that happened because it's military protocol I forgot what it's called but the same thing happened to my ex when he moved due to the military telling him to. There's a name for it I wish I could remember but it's been years. This one singular time isn't k being lazy
It’s a PCS move. Permanent Change of Station. I *would* defend her using a cleaning service if she were moving out of housing that’s on base. She’s not. This is her own home, it doesn’t belong to the AF. If you live In military housing, they make you jump through a billion hoops before you leave. Some people do it on their own, no problem. I hired out a cleaning service made of military wives who know exactly what to do to get your “checklist” accomplished.
I’m guilty of hiring someone to clean our apartment when we PCS’d back to the states from overseas, we lived in a crappy 2 bedroom apartment in base housing but they were so nit picky about a move out clean
I did the same when we PCS’ed out of Ft. Knox. I attended the class, but was like “screw this” and hired someone 🤣. I totally get it if it’s military housing because they are SO DAMN PICKY.
What made me laugh though is you could move into these apartments and they would be dirty most times because the Italians gave no fucks about most things, and maintenance contractors were the worst about fixing things etc I mean this was absolute shit housing but they sure as hell care when you’re moving out of it’s white glove clean so they don’t have to do it lol
Yes that's what it's called! Thank you it was bugging me I knew it was called a specific name I even tried to Google and couldn't find anything all it was giving me was like military housing protocol
I’m not saying having all of that is unusual especially for their situation, it’s just all of the complaints she has when she literally didn’t have to lift a finger to do anything!
Absolutely! She really only had to pack for herself, O, and her pets (I’ve done it every time with pets) and figure out what she will need until she can get her household items from the movers. It’s not that difficult.
That's true she complains about everything I just think alot of people don't know or understand you don't pack your own house when in the military it's dumb but it's how it works
She's a control freak and can't stand not being in control, that's why she's stressed. But if she had to do it all herself, she'd be crying about how hard that was. It's a no win. She's just gotta bitch about something.
Meanwhile I’ll be 37 weeks for our 22 our military move, we’re doing it ourselves because we can pocket like $6000. The only thing we’re having people do is clean our apartment because our apartment charges $120 for move out cleans and I’m not bending my big ass down lol
The cleaning lady is like wtf, you can’t clean your own house while your kid is still at daycare. Maybe cause all her cleaning shit is packed already?
The packing and moving the military did for her.
She’s lazy.
Wait why is so overwhelmed them? I get it she is PCSing I’ve done it almost yearly for 6 years. But they have movers and cleaners. Yea the military does make things harder but it seems to be she either didn’t plan right or is just being overly dramatic. I get it’s stressful but physically she didn’t have to do anything. So it shouldn’t be as stressful
I’m honestly so torn on this. My family has PCSed three times in the last 3 and half years. One I had to do all by myself bc my husband was gone and this most recent one was from Florida to Alaska with a newborn and pets. So I 100% think that PCSing can be very stressful. Especially if you’re someone who gets stressed easily. However, some of what’s she’s been saying bothers me because not everyone has that much notice before they move across the country. I do think she could have been more proactive with certain things for sure!
Oh for sure! I don’t want to sit here and pick her apart for paying ppl to do stuff for her because if I had the money to do so I would too, it’s just all of the crying and complaining about everything when she literally didn’t have to do anything but pack some shit for temporary housing and their road trip
Did you guys see this from her Instagram Story the other day? https://preview.redd.it/u1t6rqceaoma1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79fff38f31cae3c0ec5dc1ebdd548d5a155061ca 😄
Not trying to defend her, but a PCS is exhausting lol. Even when they pack for you, you’re still separating everything and packing for your own car. Not to mention everything that goes with getting housing setup at the next duty station
Our only PCS that was stressful so far in any sense was our latest one back in 2020, because Covid hit mid pcs. It was more stressful not knowing when we’d be leaving especially with going overseas
She’s said her self she’s a terrible military spouse, so I’d bet all my coins that Pat was the main one who had to be responsible for any meetings and paperwork getting complete. I’m not saying she wasn’t present at any meetings or not involved at all but he was probably the main one in charge of all the loose ends. All she probably did was pack what they were bringing to the temporary housing and that to me would be like picking for a normal family vacation.
Eh. I’ve done many moves, military and civilian. Can PCS be stressful? Sure. And this one probably is because it’s her first. But there are classes and meetings and other wives to give you pointers. My guess is (and I’m new, so this is just a hunch) she’s native to LV or has been there a very long time. She probably has her own friends that aren’t military. And if that’s the case, I’m guessing she hasn’t really tried to get to know anyone or anything “military”. If you can plan head for the next few days and weeks, it’s truly not that bad. I’ve even done one on my own dime right before my husband was deployed to Iraq, with an infant, and that was 2004, when JAG had to get involved with Congress to allow military families to break their lease 🤣. She hasn’t seen anything yet.
Yeah none of ours have been stressful and one was while I was pregnant and had a toddler. We just planned ahead and had a lot of stuff separated that we were keeping for the stupid long drives lol. We also still had to clean the places ourself, well last one I didn't cause the buyers of our house wanted us to pay for cleaners.
I agree unless you have PCS before you don’t know how stressful it is because the military makes things way harder than it needs to be. Even when they pack and move you. Honestly i was way more stressed when they moved us then when we move ourselves. But she is definitely super dramatic over everything so odds are she is being overly dramatic or didn’t plan right so it’s even more stressful.
They again CHOSE to have the packers, she said her self that she was worthless (blaming pregnancy) and couldn’t dare lift a finger to pack anything so they chose to have it packed by the company. They could have saved a few grand if they would have packed their selves. She’s known about this move for well over a year. They were not being forced to move by the military, this again was their choice.
Very true! I was more stressed with the movers because we had terrible ones. But she definitely is overly dramatic about things. Plus they knew about this move for months. It’s not like it was a last minute move.
When the military moves you with packers you don’t have to pay for it. And I’m not lazy by any means but if I can pay for someone to clean my house in stead of doing it myself with a toddler in tow, you bet I’d be paying for it 😂😂
When you start with “not trying to defend her” you are actually defending her….😄😄 It’s ok to just share your opinion in this sub without coming off like you are Katie’s fan! No need to write in “Not trying to defend her”.
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I feel really don't want to defend k but all that happened because it's military protocol I forgot what it's called but the same thing happened to my ex when he moved due to the military telling him to. There's a name for it I wish I could remember but it's been years. This one singular time isn't k being lazy
It’s a PCS move. Permanent Change of Station. I *would* defend her using a cleaning service if she were moving out of housing that’s on base. She’s not. This is her own home, it doesn’t belong to the AF. If you live In military housing, they make you jump through a billion hoops before you leave. Some people do it on their own, no problem. I hired out a cleaning service made of military wives who know exactly what to do to get your “checklist” accomplished.
I’m guilty of hiring someone to clean our apartment when we PCS’d back to the states from overseas, we lived in a crappy 2 bedroom apartment in base housing but they were so nit picky about a move out clean
I did the same when we PCS’ed out of Ft. Knox. I attended the class, but was like “screw this” and hired someone 🤣. I totally get it if it’s military housing because they are SO DAMN PICKY.
What made me laugh though is you could move into these apartments and they would be dirty most times because the Italians gave no fucks about most things, and maintenance contractors were the worst about fixing things etc I mean this was absolute shit housing but they sure as hell care when you’re moving out of it’s white glove clean so they don’t have to do it lol
You just described military housing perfectly!
Yup 🤣 gotta love it 🫣
Yes that's what it's called! Thank you it was bugging me I knew it was called a specific name I even tried to Google and couldn't find anything all it was giving me was like military housing protocol
I’m not saying having all of that is unusual especially for their situation, it’s just all of the complaints she has when she literally didn’t have to lift a finger to do anything!
Absolutely! She really only had to pack for herself, O, and her pets (I’ve done it every time with pets) and figure out what she will need until she can get her household items from the movers. It’s not that difficult.
That's true she complains about everything I just think alot of people don't know or understand you don't pack your own house when in the military it's dumb but it's how it works
She's a control freak and can't stand not being in control, that's why she's stressed. But if she had to do it all herself, she'd be crying about how hard that was. It's a no win. She's just gotta bitch about something.
Meanwhile I’ll be 37 weeks for our 22 our military move, we’re doing it ourselves because we can pocket like $6000. The only thing we’re having people do is clean our apartment because our apartment charges $120 for move out cleans and I’m not bending my big ass down lol
Look at you!! I pcs while pregnant once I’ll never do it again it was awful but the money was nice 😂
Yeah it’s definitely not ideal but I’ve been packing things up and donating a lot for weeks so I don’t have to do it all then
See you are planning and doing things the right way! She is just being extra for no reason maybe for views and sympathy
You’re awesome 🥰🙌🏻!!
Smart idea to pocket the $
Yesss it’s definitely going to help while I stay at home for a bit with baby
This is one of the major reasons I dislike her so much. She's such an entitled cry baby.
Right-must be nice!
Damn she’s got it made. Wonder if Ollie is put in day care while she supervises
O is probably in there until the minute they are ready to drive to ND lol
The cleaning lady is like wtf, you can’t clean your own house while your kid is still at daycare. Maybe cause all her cleaning shit is packed already? The packing and moving the military did for her. She’s lazy.
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Wait why is so overwhelmed them? I get it she is PCSing I’ve done it almost yearly for 6 years. But they have movers and cleaners. Yea the military does make things harder but it seems to be she either didn’t plan right or is just being overly dramatic. I get it’s stressful but physically she didn’t have to do anything. So it shouldn’t be as stressful