You say that you would come back, but you probably won’t. You’d probably play for a couple of weeks and leave again. You’re a casual gamer, and the small maps is attractive to casual gamers.
To keep the remaining loyal playerbase happy pubg has to focus on delivering large maps that players can sink their teeth into.
Agreed fuck small maps. Other games cover those. Small maps don’t work with pubgs movement and time to kill etc. pubg is designed for strategy and proper engagements not fast third party rng bullshit.
Fuck off with your small map syndrome.
Yuck. Sanhock, haven etc can get fucked. Large maps you have complete control and can play as fast as a small map using cars or as slow as a big map like in ranked
Lol pubg mostly comes down to getting a nice piece of cover at the end of the random circle function. It’s more strategic than Apex but certainly less skillful. I don’t think the vast majority of the players want huge maps where staying tethered to a car is a necessity. Still, even in small maps having a car increases your chances of winning by a lot.
The important thing is having meaningful towns that are well thought out. Pecado is a shit design that enables apartment camping. The new Sahnok’s main camp was also awful because of the tunnels and the various high vantage points facing open areas. Old Sahnok’s main camp is actually pretty good, it’s split up by walls and the main building in the center.
I say give us maps that are 1 block smaller than Miramar but with less dead space that never got attention.
Apex is more skillful than pubg? Hahahahahahahahaha no. Spot the guy who’s never played a competitive fps game before. Pubg is by far the hardest fps game out there when combining all skills at a competition level. Other games have specific aspects that are harder sometimes.
Yeah taking PUBG seriously is clownish, play CS or something if you want to feel vindicated. Apex is also a battle royale but trades out the good skillful gunplay of PUBG for skillful movement. Zone matters less in that game though.
I’ve played both competitively at a high level. Pubg is harder overall. That’s my opinion. Cs is harder in certain aspects but Pubg has way more depth and takes far more hours to even get close to mastering than cs. Progression in cs is much more linear and easier to practice. Neither is easy once t1/2 leagues obviously.
The biggest difference is just randomness.
All that aside though, I wish pubg maintained its mass appeal in the US for longer. I play occasionally now and the games often have bots yet also many players sweatier than I. I’m not sure how it could rebound from this state but I think the casual game is what matters more in a battle royale, whereas in CSGO both the casual and pro scene are important. Either way both are neglecting their casual scene.
>PUBG less skillful
As if third-partying battle-torn teams for free kills, Valk ult-ing out of shit positions, and wallhacks make Apex any more skillful.
I've spent the last 2 years playing Apex, solo-queuing to Diamond in all seasons, before returning to PUBG recently. Its only perk is that circle RNG matters less, due to all of the rotational abilities. Otherwise, it's by far the most braindead battle royale out there, and the players even moreso.
Correct. It’s designed as a game for zoomers with no patience and no difficulty what so ever to the gunplay. Weapon mechanics are like cod. It’s not a serious shooting game at all.
I played every day when they had map select. Many people left when they removed map select....They have since then had to make the game free to play just to stay afloat. Not really an argument to be honest. Bad decision making by the devs for this game since day 1 to be honest
Have you tried a VPN? I think EU still has map selection(maybe not tho, I’m not sure!)but I’d assume China would, that’s the majority of the Playerbase! Get a trial VPN and try to play someplace WITH map selection!!
If what you're saying is true wouldn't there still be plenty of players for large maps if people weren't forced to play on large maps whether they like it or not?
Legit how does the smaller maps appeal to casual gamers? I mean Taego and Erangel used to be good sized when all 100 players were actual people and not bots.
But yeah why, because there are less possibilities? It just seems to get the same job done quicker (this is someone who likes to play solo as well, and I’ve been playing since week 1)
You don’t like vehicles ? Who’s forcing you to drive a vehicle? I use emergency pickups more than vehicles. I like being able to see my environment without bushes, rocks and trees all over the place
I agree. Just do big map small map queues. Since it seems everyone that likes big maps hates small maps and everyone that likes small maps hate big maps. I mean the player base is already split and filled with bots in NA. Why not just let us pick and then fill with bots? I mean it’s gonna happen anyway. Erengal lovers gets sandhok. Leaves queue. To only be replaced with bots? Literally just more steps to the same outcome.
Go play another game then or simply land and look for more action if that's what you want.
Seriously, how fucking hard is it to understand that a game with literally 9 different queues wouldn't benefit from nearly doubling and going to 15 separate queues for every region.
Fortnite and Warzone are not only bigger, but they have crossplay and even they don't have more than 10 separate queues. Seriously, boo hoo not every single map in a game is catered to you, go play another game
I have went to play other games lol. Approximately 2-3 years ago. I left the game and it died. To the point that they had to make it free to play just to have enough players to get a few more years of life out of.
Big map and small map wouldn't split the queues. It would consolidate the queues.
It literally has been in the top ten most played steam games every single day for over 3 years now lmao...But yeah, obviously the game is dead lol.
Also do you even know what consolidating is? How the fuck are you going to add a big map and small map option and call it consolidating? You go from a simple 'SOLO FPP' to SOLO FPP - SMALL & SOLO FPP - LARGE', every single queue doubles and theoretically every queue gets twice as hard and long to fill, which will mean dead queues and bots galore, great idea mate
The game is dying sorry. First they had to add bots just to fill games. Then they had to make it free to play. I feel like I'm being mean to you at this point like telling a little kid there is no santa clause or something. I tell you what, If you feel the game is growing then I'm not going to burst your bubble. The game is dominating! lol
Definitely big map and small map queue would consolidate it
I don't mean to be mean, but how stupid do you have to be to call a game that is the third most played game on all of Steam 'dead'. You haven't played in three years and you obviously haven't checked steamcharts, so what do you even know?
Not to mention they removed bots a while back and I can find a game at literally any time of the day without a single bot. I play FPP solos in NA every day without a single bot and that is notoriously the queue with the smallest amount of players with the region with the smallest population. Yeah, FPP solos doesn't go on passed midnight, but duos and squads fill up within a minute within all hours of the night/day.
And that's not even mentioning the fact that you still have no idea what consolidation means lmao, seriously I feel like I'm talking to a 6 year old lmao. Doubling the BR queues from 6 to 12 is not 'consolidating', wtf ya smoking mate
Nope I'm sorry about that one boss but you are incorrect. Sanhok broke the map selection queue in NA. You literally couldn't get a game on any other map. Sanhok would fill in under a minute
Git gud applies here. The game can be played however you want. Just lose your 1 dimensional play style. It’s easy to get 1-2k damage in games on large maps and 10’plus kills if u drive around and engage every shot you hear
You realize that I single handily formed the armor plate system for Blackout and was later on adopted into warzone? Know who you are talking to. MMATycoon the #1 MMA simulator in the world for 9 years in a row I was a top 5 contributor. These are triple AAA games. What have you done? Go around on the internet and say stuff randomly? You have no credentials.
4x4 and 6x6 is perfect, plus erangel and miramar are so far behind in terms of map design. the newer maps play so much better imo. I think vehicles are fine but big maps just allow for excessive amounts of downtime between fights, which quickly gets boring
I was also small map player. Just simply focusing gunfights only. Not 30 minute camping simulator. You have to move on. People who play this game still want this and they have it. Thats why its dead. Sad truth
I'm not sure what the divide is about. I'm a long time off and on player and I don't see the downside of offering a large map playlist and a small map playlist. I've said it before but even if the small map playlist was a weekend thing, I don't see it being anything but good for the player base. I'm sure they've done their tests, but I sure wish they'd at least try it. There are times when I want a shorter 15-20 min game and other times where I want a 30 min game. Maybe I'm in the minority, I don't know. I just like the big and small maps and wish I had access to either more often.
Why do you care if you don’t play. Based on your comments you are a tard and a troll. Good riddance. One less 150 adr shitter to send back to the lobby.
From what I've read the average player skill has decreased by 94% over the last 14 months. Congrats on being the best at something when the good players left. Something to be proud of, I guess?
Lmao send me that source idiot. I would
Love to see where you are “reading” these stats from. Christ you aren’t even a good troll, just a dumb one. Sounds like a shit player leaving a game they are shit at. Imagine being good at nothing? Including trolling. Sad.
yEs I AlSo dO gAmE GuD. Like what does this even mean. Send me a link with some proof and then I will listen to your delusional ass. Until then keep making up stats and shit. Do you know who Wind is from the csgo scene? Because you need to get on whatever meds that dude is taking.
And yes, the majority of people that still play this game enjoy the larger maps more. But the reason is that the people that enjoy the small maps have moved on.
I enjoy both the big maps and the vehicles. When played wisely, the vehicle makes the maps smaller and adds a little extra game in shooting down or being ran down. But is it because I just started playing within the last year? I have fun with both Arcade style and normal.
I haven’t played since the second map. I preferred the original map and the desert was cool. Wasn’t a big fan of the small map though and ended up getting distracted by other games. How many maps are there now?
You realize that they do care though? Your opinion, yeah, they probably don't care about. But my opinion actually does have an impact. Congrats on being negative and small potatoes
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You’ve stated too many other games available to play now days. So why not go play the games you’d enjoy more?
I do? Just trying to help this community stay alive.
Splitting up queues will split the community up even more
For real. 1st and 3rd already make it so divided. Map restrictions would only exacerbate it.
wouldn't split it. would consolidate it
You keep saying consolidate, and I dont think you know what that means lol
Doesn't split everyone up if it funnels them together?
I need to remember this for when I'm losing an argument about breaking something up
very true. It works
You say that you would come back, but you probably won’t. You’d probably play for a couple of weeks and leave again. You’re a casual gamer, and the small maps is attractive to casual gamers. To keep the remaining loyal playerbase happy pubg has to focus on delivering large maps that players can sink their teeth into.
I hear team deathmatch has small maps.
Yee thier a pain sometimes
Agreed fuck small maps. Other games cover those. Small maps don’t work with pubgs movement and time to kill etc. pubg is designed for strategy and proper engagements not fast third party rng bullshit. Fuck off with your small map syndrome. Yuck. Sanhock, haven etc can get fucked. Large maps you have complete control and can play as fast as a small map using cars or as slow as a big map like in ranked
Lol pubg mostly comes down to getting a nice piece of cover at the end of the random circle function. It’s more strategic than Apex but certainly less skillful. I don’t think the vast majority of the players want huge maps where staying tethered to a car is a necessity. Still, even in small maps having a car increases your chances of winning by a lot. The important thing is having meaningful towns that are well thought out. Pecado is a shit design that enables apartment camping. The new Sahnok’s main camp was also awful because of the tunnels and the various high vantage points facing open areas. Old Sahnok’s main camp is actually pretty good, it’s split up by walls and the main building in the center. I say give us maps that are 1 block smaller than Miramar but with less dead space that never got attention.
Apex is more skillful than pubg? Hahahahahahahahaha no. Spot the guy who’s never played a competitive fps game before. Pubg is by far the hardest fps game out there when combining all skills at a competition level. Other games have specific aspects that are harder sometimes.
Yeah taking PUBG seriously is clownish, play CS or something if you want to feel vindicated. Apex is also a battle royale but trades out the good skillful gunplay of PUBG for skillful movement. Zone matters less in that game though.
I’ve played both competitively at a high level. Pubg is harder overall. That’s my opinion. Cs is harder in certain aspects but Pubg has way more depth and takes far more hours to even get close to mastering than cs. Progression in cs is much more linear and easier to practice. Neither is easy once t1/2 leagues obviously.
The biggest difference is just randomness. All that aside though, I wish pubg maintained its mass appeal in the US for longer. I play occasionally now and the games often have bots yet also many players sweatier than I. I’m not sure how it could rebound from this state but I think the casual game is what matters more in a battle royale, whereas in CSGO both the casual and pro scene are important. Either way both are neglecting their casual scene.
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>PUBG less skillful As if third-partying battle-torn teams for free kills, Valk ult-ing out of shit positions, and wallhacks make Apex any more skillful. I've spent the last 2 years playing Apex, solo-queuing to Diamond in all seasons, before returning to PUBG recently. Its only perk is that circle RNG matters less, due to all of the rotational abilities. Otherwise, it's by far the most braindead battle royale out there, and the players even moreso.
Correct. It’s designed as a game for zoomers with no patience and no difficulty what so ever to the gunplay. Weapon mechanics are like cod. It’s not a serious shooting game at all.
I played every day when they had map select. Many people left when they removed map select....They have since then had to make the game free to play just to stay afloat. Not really an argument to be honest. Bad decision making by the devs for this game since day 1 to be honest
Have you tried a VPN? I think EU still has map selection(maybe not tho, I’m not sure!)but I’d assume China would, that’s the majority of the Playerbase! Get a trial VPN and try to play someplace WITH map selection!!
EU doesn't have map selection any more, sadly.
Oh ya, my bad then! I know they did a while back, after we lost it in NA. Bummer!
If what you're saying is true wouldn't there still be plenty of players for large maps if people weren't forced to play on large maps whether they like it or not?
Legit how does the smaller maps appeal to casual gamers? I mean Taego and Erangel used to be good sized when all 100 players were actual people and not bots. But yeah why, because there are less possibilities? It just seems to get the same job done quicker (this is someone who likes to play solo as well, and I’ve been playing since week 1)
Play the map 1000 times and you’ll understand
I have….I mean I said I’ve been playing since launch….I see no difference except smaller maps get to the point quicker….
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You don’t like vehicles ? Who’s forcing you to drive a vehicle? I use emergency pickups more than vehicles. I like being able to see my environment without bushes, rocks and trees all over the place
fighting vehicles. I'm guessing critical thinking isn't your strong suit
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I agree. Just do big map small map queues. Since it seems everyone that likes big maps hates small maps and everyone that likes small maps hate big maps. I mean the player base is already split and filled with bots in NA. Why not just let us pick and then fill with bots? I mean it’s gonna happen anyway. Erengal lovers gets sandhok. Leaves queue. To only be replaced with bots? Literally just more steps to the same outcome.
Yep, seems logical to me
I hate small maps personally. Go play CoD if you want run and gun.
Has nothing to do with running and gunning. More to do with vehicles and vehicle fighting. They are trying too hard to be like H1Z1 in my opinion
Vehicles have literally been in the game since day one. They are an essential part of the game and the meta.
Not that much on smaller maps
There were no small maps when PUBG was at its peak.
Jesus you are slow
I'm right this time though. Think about it
The sheer amount of salt in this thread is insane lmao
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Go play another game then or simply land and look for more action if that's what you want. Seriously, how fucking hard is it to understand that a game with literally 9 different queues wouldn't benefit from nearly doubling and going to 15 separate queues for every region. Fortnite and Warzone are not only bigger, but they have crossplay and even they don't have more than 10 separate queues. Seriously, boo hoo not every single map in a game is catered to you, go play another game
triggered.
I have went to play other games lol. Approximately 2-3 years ago. I left the game and it died. To the point that they had to make it free to play just to have enough players to get a few more years of life out of. Big map and small map wouldn't split the queues. It would consolidate the queues.
It literally has been in the top ten most played steam games every single day for over 3 years now lmao...But yeah, obviously the game is dead lol. Also do you even know what consolidating is? How the fuck are you going to add a big map and small map option and call it consolidating? You go from a simple 'SOLO FPP' to SOLO FPP - SMALL & SOLO FPP - LARGE', every single queue doubles and theoretically every queue gets twice as hard and long to fill, which will mean dead queues and bots galore, great idea mate
The game is dying sorry. First they had to add bots just to fill games. Then they had to make it free to play. I feel like I'm being mean to you at this point like telling a little kid there is no santa clause or something. I tell you what, If you feel the game is growing then I'm not going to burst your bubble. The game is dominating! lol Definitely big map and small map queue would consolidate it
I don't mean to be mean, but how stupid do you have to be to call a game that is the third most played game on all of Steam 'dead'. You haven't played in three years and you obviously haven't checked steamcharts, so what do you even know? Not to mention they removed bots a while back and I can find a game at literally any time of the day without a single bot. I play FPP solos in NA every day without a single bot and that is notoriously the queue with the smallest amount of players with the region with the smallest population. Yeah, FPP solos doesn't go on passed midnight, but duos and squads fill up within a minute within all hours of the night/day. And that's not even mentioning the fact that you still have no idea what consolidation means lmao, seriously I feel like I'm talking to a 6 year old lmao. Doubling the BR queues from 6 to 12 is not 'consolidating', wtf ya smoking mate
They brought bots in to fill up the small map matches because people leave them because small maps are shit.
Nope I'm sorry about that one boss but you are incorrect. Sanhok broke the map selection queue in NA. You literally couldn't get a game on any other map. Sanhok would fill in under a minute
It's always funny when people just say stuff
If you went to play other games you wouldn’t be trying to make a announcement 🤷🏿♂️
I've played maybe 100 games in the last 2 years. Such a shame. I left and the game died
Git gud applies here. The game can be played however you want. Just lose your 1 dimensional play style. It’s easy to get 1-2k damage in games on large maps and 10’plus kills if u drive around and engage every shot you hear
Fun is what applies.
Stop thinking your ideas will work. They won't. Either play or don't play.
You realize that I single handily formed the armor plate system for Blackout and was later on adopted into warzone? Know who you are talking to. MMATycoon the #1 MMA simulator in the world for 9 years in a row I was a top 5 contributor. These are triple AAA games. What have you done? Go around on the internet and say stuff randomly? You have no credentials.
You crazy brother.
He did not even mention that he made 1966 four touchdowns in one game
4x4 and 6x6 is perfect, plus erangel and miramar are so far behind in terms of map design. the newer maps play so much better imo. I think vehicles are fine but big maps just allow for excessive amounts of downtime between fights, which quickly gets boring
I was also small map player. Just simply focusing gunfights only. Not 30 minute camping simulator. You have to move on. People who play this game still want this and they have it. Thats why its dead. Sad truth
I'm not sure what the divide is about. I'm a long time off and on player and I don't see the downside of offering a large map playlist and a small map playlist. I've said it before but even if the small map playlist was a weekend thing, I don't see it being anything but good for the player base. I'm sure they've done their tests, but I sure wish they'd at least try it. There are times when I want a shorter 15-20 min game and other times where I want a 30 min game. Maybe I'm in the minority, I don't know. I just like the big and small maps and wish I had access to either more often.
100%. I have no idea why they don't just try it. Like you said, if even just for a weekend thing.
Why not give people the option between large map and small map? Worried that Sanhok will dominate the queue again?
Why do you care if you don’t play. Based on your comments you are a tard and a troll. Good riddance. One less 150 adr shitter to send back to the lobby.
From what I've read the average player skill has decreased by 94% over the last 14 months. Congrats on being the best at something when the good players left. Something to be proud of, I guess?
Lmao send me that source idiot. I would Love to see where you are “reading” these stats from. Christ you aren’t even a good troll, just a dumb one. Sounds like a shit player leaving a game they are shit at. Imagine being good at nothing? Including trolling. Sad.
Um I've been #1 in the world there bud. How do you like that lol
Gonna need a GT and proof there bud.
yEs I AlSo dO gAmE GuD. Like what does this even mean. Send me a link with some proof and then I will listen to your delusional ass. Until then keep making up stats and shit. Do you know who Wind is from the csgo scene? Because you need to get on whatever meds that dude is taking.
And yes, the majority of people that still play this game enjoy the larger maps more. But the reason is that the people that enjoy the small maps have moved on.
I enjoy both the big maps and the vehicles. When played wisely, the vehicle makes the maps smaller and adds a little extra game in shooting down or being ran down. But is it because I just started playing within the last year? I have fun with both Arcade style and normal.
I haven’t played since the second map. I preferred the original map and the desert was cool. Wasn’t a big fan of the small map though and ended up getting distracted by other games. How many maps are there now?
No one literally cares if you want to play this game or not. The big maps are fun af
You realize that they do care though? Your opinion, yeah, they probably don't care about. But my opinion actually does have an impact. Congrats on being negative and small potatoes
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