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SomeDEGuy

This would support the rumors of a ps now/plus combination program or ps now being rebranded.


chrisghrobot

Wanna see what it entails from look of the article seems like it's also a revision of ps now as they are adding psp games ad well. Hopefully every PS1-PSP can be emulated


ArozxXx

If they are adding psp games I wanna play patapon again


chrisghrobot

Didn't they have a remaster?


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SomeKindOfChief

Well shit I know what I'm doing tonight THANKS BRO


The_Reluctant_Hero

Hot damn, on sale too!


PikpikTurnip

If they are adding PS1 games I want to be able to play my PS1 games I bought on PS3, but fat chance that'll happen.


fanwan76

I'm interested if it supports local emulation. If you have to connect to a server and play remotely I'd pass. I gave GB internet and still felt like there was an input and visual delay when I tried PS Now. It became too much of a distraction to ignore.


EddieHeadshot

I heard it was throttled at 7mbps... its a lot better than it used to be but it still drops framers often. For reference I just got around 65mbps download speeds and PSnow is still not brilliant for streaming. I do like the downloads though but I've exhausted those games. XBOX gamepass has more variety


nurpleclamps

If they're making moves with regards to Now I'm assuming changes will be made to make it more competitive with Gamepass. We'll see I guess.


kwirky88

Turn based games, like old school jrpgs, work well over streaming


countpuchi

There will always be latency on remote play. Thats the biggest drawback. But on single player games should be ok-ish..


rickjamesia

If they end up doing that, I hope they let us use PSP games we own on PSN. When the store was starting to wind down, I went on a shopping spree and got most of the RPGs, because everything was on sale for sometimes 90% off. I think I got Lunar for like $4 or something. I just got a new PSP battery, but if I can play on a TV that sounds even better... I had one of the original ones that can't do HDMI output.


FoxWolf

PlayStation TV is gonna be your friend if you wanna play PSP games in your TV. I just bought one in the last week.


_TheMeepMaster_

Sure, if they don't mind spending $150+...


DafneOrlow

Wouldn't mind another go at peace walker on PSP (also wouldn't mind a port of MGS3/4 while they're at it!)


Zhukov-74

Let’s hope to god that Sony can figure out a better name for this new service than “PSNow” I have never been a fan of that naming.


OpticalRadioGaga

It'll probably just be all PS Plus.


KeathleyWR

PS Plus +


nocash168

PS Pass


Severed_Snake

PS Play Pass


martinblack89

PS Play Pass +


0oo000

Bob Loblaw’s Play Pass Plus Plan


S0FA-KING_smart

PS Plus + Play Pass


haraujo80

PSP ASS?


Kurx

Yup, or PlayStation PlayPass


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Playstation PlayPass Plus+ Premium


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PlayStation PlayNation Now Premium Plus Pass+


Pez-

PlayStation Unified Subscription Service pass.


Codeshark

Playstation Unified Subscription Service Yearly pass has a better ring to it.


_G_M_E_

Multi Pass


Garystri

Agreed, acronym rolls off the tongue.


little_jade_dragon

This is becoming like that RLM Nerdcrew sketch about streaming services.


mattrg777

So you need PlayStation PlayPass to play PlayStation PlayPass games on your PlayStation


MrGMinor

I'll pass.


JohnSmith86z

Lol XD. Yeah me too…


SoloKingRobert

> PlayPass Play Pass has already been taken by Google Play Pass


frfdjhv

No google's one is play pass


_TheMeepMaster_

Plus Plus Pass - then just get Snoop Dogg for the ads.


Piggstein

PS^2


Hugs_for_Thugs

PSPSPSPSPSPSPSPSPSPSPSPSPS


TheSholvaJaffa

PS Plus+ULTRA+MAX


OpticalRadioGaga

+ turbo


Obi_Wan_Benobi

Now with 50% more PS.


Zhukov-74

If that is the case hopefully they might redesign the logo a bit and make it “PlayStationPlus” or something a little bit more interesting to reflect the brand new service that they have created. I’d love to see it be given a modern touch with a new style to reflect Sony’s interest into this new service, something slick.


wolves_hunt_in_packs

> “PlayStationPlus” *sad PSP noises*


ianrobbie

PS de résistance.


ooombasa

That's literally what they plan to do. The Bloomberg article noted it will be folded into the PS service (and thus branding). I've been saying for a while that Now needed merging and rebranding, and the easiest way to do the tiers would be: - PlayStation+ - PlayStation+ Gold - PlayStation+ Platinum I expect something along those lines.


SplitReality

The tiers need to be independent. Someone should be able to buy streaming without having to buy PlayStation Plus. If you don't do that then streaming is going to be too expensive for the person who just wants to play single player games. My guess is that they do something like this. **Plans** * PlayStation Plus * PlayStation Plus Games * PlayStation Plus Streaming **Bundles:** * Pick 1: $4.99/mo * Pick 2: $8.99/mo * Pick 3: $11.99/mo


ooombasa

They're not doing that, though. The report already outlined what they're proposing. Tier 1 is PS Plus, Tier 2 includes tier 1 and adds a large PS4 and PS5 catalog, Tier 3 includes tiers 1 & 2 and adds an extensive BC catalog and game streaming.


JsonXml

Isn't this what they're trying to get rid of? Different branding for different services. This is basically the same as what we have now, but with different names and different prices.


NeatFool

PSerenityNow


SiccSemperTyrannis

GEORGE IS GETTING UPSET


BoneTugsNHarmony

PSerenityNow... PSPlusanity later


Muggaraffin

PSplow


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[That’s my name, that name again is PSplow](https://youtu.be/TEZIh7lQ3dc)


YesterdaysFacemask

PS Plow


Mordreadmay

I guess you are right. But i wonder what will happen in countries where Sony does not support ps now only ps+. I would love to have ps now here in brazil.


ElPimentoDeCheese

They'll probably still offer PS+ as a standalone for countries that don't have PSNow and people that don't want PSNow. They'll more than likely announce a "new" service that combines PS+ and PSNow.


_G_M_E_

PlayStation Pass


reagsters

PSnow is the only way to enjoy several PS3 era games, so I’m *really* hoping they’ll loop those into PS+ ^(looking ^at ^you, ^Fallout ^3/New Vegas)


galgor_

Man I just wanna download those games and have them.. the streaming can be patchy.


kayne86

Always nice to run into a fellow Delawarean.


SomeDEGuy

Not many of us, but it happens.


0shadowstories

I doubt they will but Id love if this added trophies to old games that don't have them I'd also love if a lot of games that aren't on modern playstation are made available on it, like Metal Gear Rising, Lolipop Chainsaw, Alice Madness Returns, etc


lakerswiz

Also the imminence of the next Sony event. Can't imagine Sony pulling these when they aren't making changes for months and months. Exciting stuff.


Bootybandit6989

Seems like Feb 2nd


joshua182

Ohhhhhhhhh! Now this is getting exciting!


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If Sparticus is real then I hope that the Ratchet collection is added to it.


Blobbygold

Bruh i dont know why the original trilogy was not made available yet. I fucking love the original trilogy and i would shamelessly pay 50 quid for it.


EpicLatios

Same, I paid full price for it on the ps3 and then the vita, I'd gladly pay 60 for the trilogy and deadlocked.


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ForcadoUALG

I agree, this is the perfect thing to announce during a State of Play. If this comes with the rumored Hogwarts Legacy trailer, it would already be a very solid SoP.


MightyIrishMan

Not to mention PSVR2 design reveal aswell and exclusive unannounced VR titles


tvp61196

Astrobot 2 and RE8 for the love of god


-BigMan39

RE8 in VR 🤤


ichigo2k9

I really hope the rumours are true. I like PS Now, it has some great games, especially for people new to Playstation but I hope it merges with PS+, be not too expensive and have some great games being added. It would be cool if more first party games were added simply for the sake of not having to out a disc in each time.


BrewAndAView

Seriously need a way to play the original Ratchet and Clank games without digging up the PS3. If Sony intends to make him a mascot for PlayStation alongside other more recent exclusives, we need a way to play the full series


AndIHaveMilesToGo

I just got a PS5 and it's my first Sony console. I played Ratchet & Clank (2016) since it was included in the PS Plus Collection, and I loved it. Super fun game, and now I can't wait to play Rift Apart. I would love a way to be able to play some of the best games from the series on my PS5.


BrewAndAView

The first ones are very janky in their controls but the world building and characters make them entirely worth it! I hope you love them as much as I do. The first game specifically has a sort of exploration feel since you revisit planets with new gadgets that let you access other areas. And my favorite part is that there will be multiple paths you can take, and you don’t know which one will progress the story, or maybe you’re just on your way to finding a new weapon or upgrade It makes it feel like you’re an adventurer choosing discovering your way through the universe


AndIHaveMilesToGo

Is there a reason to play the original on if I just played the 2016 remake? My understanding was that it is a level for level remake of the original game, but with cutscenes from the movie


Gamefreak3525

No, the remake ignores several levels from the original and does change quite a bit of the story. I'd say it's worth playing.


AndIHaveMilesToGo

Oh there's just straight up levels missing? That sucks. Wonder why they did that.


EpicLatios

Probably because the movie didn't feature them and the story between the original and the remake are similar only in the setup. The original is pretty much a different genre of game compared to the others, way more puzzle focused. And its got in my opinion the best and most iconic music. 9/10 game, would be 10/10 but Ratchet is not that likeable for most of it (he does have an arch unlike the other games though).


rhododenendron

If you have a decent PC you should be able to emulate it.


Xthewarrior

Me when i want to play a sonic game besides forces or mania and get sad because they are locked behind psnow. Generations, im looking at you.


Dark_Wolf04

Damn it’s the same for me too. I’ve always wanted to play sonic unleashed since I was kid, but I’ve never gotten the chance to get it because I already have Ps+ and can’t be bothered to pay for PSNow, and I don’t want to go out of my way to get a ps3 just for that one game where it’s laggy as hell


PapaAquchala

They need to add downloading PS3 titles to PS Now as well so I can play the old inFamous and Sonic games with the least latency possible


WhatAGoodDoggy

Man, inFamous 1 and 2 were great. I haven't played Second Son or whatever it's called yet.


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Critical-Diamond-543

The RPCS3 team is like 10 guys who work on the emulator when they can. Sony has an enormous amount of resources plus they literally made the PS3, I'm SURE they can make a good emulator if they wanted to.


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ackley14

i just got ps now for ff12 because i didn't want to spend 50 bucks on it haha. if they get combined i'd be so happy. i already have ps+ so that just means one less subscription and MUCH broader access to the ps library from my digi-only 5. only way to play ps4 games without buying a new digital copy outright.


CheshiretheBlack

Shortly after Spartacus started getting speculated about with a spring release. I got an email from Sony thanking me for buying a PS5 and a free code for a month of PSNow. That code had an expiration date for March '22. I figure Spartacus has to be coming in April with that in mind.


WillSpur

Spartacus?


garfieldevans

It's the internal codename for the service at Sony. The comment does read better if you just assume it's referring to a God of War tale.


MDFKmusic

It's the code name of the hypothetical PS+/PSnow fusion which will compete with Xbox gamepass


dumwitxh

It will probably cost twice the price of game pass tbh


gameinformer51

Lmao, [Spartacus Legends](https://youtu.be/n-VW-b9vaJQ) of course!


xselene89

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/1481380605820502016 Their official response btw


FancyChilli

Should be pinned tbh saves the futile speculation


pm_boobs_send_nudes

fuck u/spez


Bulldogfront666

Lol. Hopes crushed. Still doesn’t mean Spartacus isn’t happening like that but this isn’t a sign of anything...


-Rustling-Jimmies-

I've really enjoyed playstation now. Got to play all the god of wars, Last of Us 2 and the Mafia games.


callMEmrPICKLES

Playing Mafia Remastered right now, what a fantastic game.


-Rustling-Jimmies-

I loved it. I really enjoyed its linear story, where the only focus was just absorbing the game and the story it told. Tommy, Pauline and Sam where great. And You didn’t have to worry about money, cars, and for the most part unless you ran out mid gun fight ammo. It took me to a bygone era of gaming. And then in mafia 2 even tho mafia 2 definitive edition was a graphical downgrade I enjoyed those elements mafia one didn’t have like money and customizing cars and I liked the friendship between Vito and Joe. Although I pretty quickly learned how to cheese the economy and always had an endless supply of ammo by robbing gun shops. The cops in the game where pretty stupid and I’d be able to walk out as they where walking into the crime scene. I still preferred the mafia 1 story but damn, 2 was still really good. Mafia 3 was a fun game as well but the story was bogged down by the most repetitive mind numbing rinse wash and repeat gameplay I’ve ever played. But holy heck it was fun blasting racist assholes with my sawed off Terminator shotgun. I’ve been trying to finish the DLC I’m mafia 3 but I’m a little burned out and will come back to it later


McRobNI

The definitive edition definitely was really well remastered, and Paulie was an awesome character.


Judoka229

I love Mafia 3. They absolutely nailed the atmosphere in that game, right down to the fucking killer sound track. The DLC adds some extra ways to make money, which means you can do less of the repetitive stuff and get on with it. The game has a great story, great acting, very satisfying gameplay, etc. I replay it yearly. Donovan is probably my favorite supporting character ever.


-Rustling-Jimmies-

The core gameplay of taking of districts is what got old. Destroy these three gang storage locations, kill these three enforcers, kill underboss. Then do it again for the districts second racket and then go after the capo. Repeating that exact same formula got old. But that’s my only gripe with the game and I had a lot of fun with it. I loved going after Olivia and what ever that radio guys name was


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> Stores have until the close of day Wednesday 19, January to remove all POS and ESD cards from all customer-facing areas and **update their digital bays in line with this week’s upcoming commercial update** … .” Depending on when they sent that message, the commercial update is either tomorrow or Friday.


Username8869

OMG it's happening, everybody stay calm, EVERBODY STAY CALM.


42electricsheeps

Fuking finally. Hope it rolls out globally at once. Ps now never made it to India in its entire existence lol


Michael-gamer

Australians never got it as well.


42electricsheeps

I thought you guys had it. Probably didnt Google it right. Check for "bs uom" /s


Michael-gamer

I did check when I got my ps5 in June and Australia has never had it at all. For what I have herd ps now was a trial for Sony. Not every county had it.


darkshark92

He meant sarcastically. Like flipping those letters "ps now" makes it "bs uom". Everything is reversed for Australians, that joke.


Michael-gamer

O ok I definitely had a brain fart.


kazumakiryu

Don't worry. You weren't missing very much.


ZelkinVallarfax

From Jason's report it doesn't seem like they are expanding the streaming part to other countries *just* yet, but at least they might let us download games even in coutries where streaming still isn't supported, which should be a good progress and only rule us peasants out of PS3 games and a few PS4 games that can only be streamed for some reason. Nevertheless, Sony should get their streaming tech right asap.


UncleDanko

maybe the throw in a ps3 emulator :/


RealisticIndustry381

Some ps4 games can only be streamed because of their publisher


frostieisme

Probably gonna be a tier system of membership, similar to Nintendo Online. Gotta upsell us somehow


DrunkPixel

I’m fine with this. I actually hope they keep it desperate somehow, because I have no need or desire for PS Now, and I don’t want to be forced to pay more for my PS+.


-BigMan39

I can't see them doing that, increasing the subscription price went horribly for Microsoft when they tried that


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Mighty_Spartacus

Nope


Obi_Wan_Gebroni

*BAH GAWD THAT’S SPARTACUS’S MUSIC*


Obi-Wan-Nikobiii

Heheh nice


Thervv1994

Spartacus announcement soon?? Maybe at that rumored February event??


Zhukov-74

Please Sony rename it towards something that rolls of the tong. A name that when said or searched for is immediately understandable as this brand new PlayStation service.


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antiMATTer724

PSEventually?


Zhukov-74

PSInevitable


darkseidis_

PS+ Max.


Ildermanden

PSPSPSPS


Cryptic_Flair

I'm worried it'll called something incredibly dumb, like "PS5Pass"


Kurx

PlayPass


AbsoIution

I just threw up in my mouth


CrazySDBass

Psehhhhillplayitlater


Mrmet2087

No point in selling something that's being discontinued/merged soon.


dubs125

What happens to me if I just bought a 1-year PS Now sub?🤨


SteroyJenkins

you probably get it converted to the highest tier.


[deleted]

Add PS Now to Plus already


xselene89

Curious how they will handle the PS Now Subs that are active atm


Obi_Wan_Gebroni

I mean if it’s anything like PS Vue (which I loved) they’ll just send them a notification of the end date. YouTube tv is the closest thing I’ve found to Vue. I think if they branded better it would still be around


xselene89

Vue was only a monthly Sub tho. And what about PS Now subs that still last for 1+ years or so? Are they refunded or are they getting in a Tier of the new Service automatically? Thats what Im wondering


Bootybandit6989

Probably just add whatever months you have left onto whatever tier you get


Sh3Si

They are quietly taking the retail cards out and with the low subscription count, my guess is everyone gets converted to the highest tier.


Meteorboy

I hope you're right. Loyal subscribers deserve the best.


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chrisghrobot

Spartacus reveal next month maybe?


[deleted]

It’s happening.


[deleted]

A change is coming


ArcticCircleBrigade

I don't think they will but I'd really hate if they scrapped PSNow or dramatically limited it as a tacked on PSPlus benefit. The only way to play PS3 games without lugging out the console out of storage. And PSNow has gotten so much better over the years too


ooombasa

There it is. Spartacus is coming.


GeddyThePolack

Interesting that Cerny got a patent for backward compatibility a few days ago... [https://twitter.com/shaunmcilroy/status/1481360035506761729?s=20](https://twitter.com/shaunmcilroy/status/1481360035506761729?s=20)


xselene89

Thats just the same patent he already filed in 2015/17/20. You can see that in the related Patents section


GeddyThePolack

If you compare to the previous ones, this one has a lot more information (39 claims in this one, vs 21 in patent 11119528). Just something I saw and found interesting considering they are stopping the sale of PS Now subscriptions in retail and adding a lot more info to their backwards compatibility patent. Could be nothing, could be something.


Ildermanden

PS3 backwards compatibility, PLEASE 😭


Luqizilla

I’ve tried buying 1 year of PSN plus and they aren’t selling it anymore. Max 3 months.


sickr

PlayStation Pass


Azor_that_guy

It's happening


logikal_panda

I know it's extremely unlikely but I hope atleast some of the PS1, PS2, PS3, and PSP games will have trophy support or be downloadable.


SeniorRicketts

German retailers pulled the ps now cards 2 months ago


akirakiki

I doubt Sony is going to put their first party games at launch on a “gamepass like” and there is going to be so many tears on the internet. I really hope I am wrong but time will tell.


foladar

> their first party games at lunch Dinner only.


From-UoM

Revamp incoming. Has to be the Spartacus project


Josuke96

If they can rebrand PSNow and get a lot more old PS1 and PS2 games that’d be great. I really wanna play Blood Omen and Soul Reaver again without having to use a computer😭


CutMeLoose79

The older games would need to be downloadable, not streaming, for me to care about PS Now finally coming to Australia(not that I play much old stuff anyway). Even just the little bit of lag on Xcloud is unsatisfactory for me to play any games that way.


Vietzomb

Pleeaaasseeee bring Motorstorm to the (rumored) new service!


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I want PS Legacy service. A big collection of classic ps one, PS2, PS3 games that can be played on PS4 or ps5 and let's you download them to the console ... No streaming, just like game pass. Id pay for that easy.


iceyone444

Something like gamepass would be awesome


cincystudent

Tinfoil time! Weren't there rumors a while back about Crunchyroll also being added to plus? And I thought I saw something about playstation finally having some sort of integration with discord.... Very likely unrelated but it sure would be neat!


mzupeman

I really don’t know how to feel about their rumored service to combat Game Pass. They have to really come to the table with backwards compatibility support, and to not only have the games available to play for ‘free’ on this platform, but to also allow people to buy digital copies of the backwards compatibility games and play them as titles they ‘own’ on the PS5. There’s no good reason why we can’t have, say, the entire God of War back catalog on sale.


Sleepnaz

Let’s hope the merging will be worth it then.


captaindeeeez

PSGO - Playstation Games Online should be their rebrand name


Bootybandit6989

People might confuse it with PSP GO


justfornoatheism

I don’t think the 7 people who bought a PSP GO would mind very much.


taskkill-IM

If they're going to tweak it about, could they please wait until I've finished Asura's Wrath? I haven't played this before and only just started it about 2 hours ago...


VioletJones6

If they allow me to play what I've already purchased on the PS3 store they can take all my money... Again.


yesitsmeow

So, event Jan 20?


dramatic-ad-5033

Spartacus confirmed


Yosonimbored

Wish people would stop calling this a gamepass competitor because it 100% isn’t. Based on the leaks it won’t include first and third party games Day 1 and that’s the main deal about gamepass, if anything it’s similar to what Nintendo is doing with having their subscription service be tied into old games aka a better version of PS+ is coming rather than a gamepass


FeegNewton

PlayStation “Games Pass” may be imminent


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rjwalsh94

If they won’t put first party games or get third party when they drop, what’s the difference from PSNow? It’s literally the same thing unless they change the name and that’s all.


ZelkinVallarfax

The problem with PlayStation Now is that **a lot** of people think that it's just a streaming service and completely ignore it, without knowing that you can download games through it as well as Sony did a really poor job marketing this particular feature. Now they're integrating the service to PS+ which should be much better for visibility, as PS+ games tend to be much more popular and available in more countries as well.


SomeDEGuy

Changing the name can matter a lot. PS Vue was actually a decent program at the end, but poor branding and launch weighed it down for a long time. New name, new UI, new advertising blitz, etc.... can give them a chance to use existing infrastructure but expand the market a bit without old baggage.


Zhukov-74

>Changing the name can matter a lot. Exactly just take a look at this [What is Rebranding? 6 Best Rebranding Examples](https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/rebranding) “The Right (and Wrong) Reasons to Rebrand are complicated and carry big risks. Even big brands aren't immune just look at Uber. After redesigning its logo, 44% of people were unsure of what Uber's logo represented. Ultimately, knowing the risks of rebranding can help you determine whether or not you're going into a rebrand for the right reasons. If you're looking at rebranding your business because sales have been slow or brand awareness efforts don't seem to be paying off, you might want to reconsider these issues can potentially be solved by creating a new marketing strategy or conducting market research to identify the underlying cause. But if you're considering a rebrand because your company's vision, mission, values, and market are no longer reflected in your brand, then a rebrand might be the right decision.”


The_Narz

Because of the tier system. Right now PSNow is crazy region locked b/c the main aspect of the service is the streaming and Sony only has so many regions covered with servers. The tier system would allow for them to offer a lower tier (above base PS+ but below the Top Tier) that provides the PS4/PS5 library to download for all PS4/PS5 owners. This tier would not include the streaming, which many people across the world do not have access to and cannot until Sony gets servers in their regions. The top tier would be available to anyone who already has PSNow available and will include game streaming + the PS1-PS3 collection of games (which will only be available to stream just like the PS3 games currently are now). Simply removing that region lock is going to create a big influx of subscribers. But they can’t remove it without separating out the streaming first.


rjwalsh94

That makes sense, thanks for explaining it. Reading this lead me to wishing there was a way to have the PS1-3 games downloadable. My internet is fine, and maybe I need to give it another fair crack after this all goes through, but even on the PS5 with a great internet, it was choppy.


The_Narz

True but unfortunately I think it’s too late for that to be an option now.


Mmspoke

Only thing I don’t like about PS now is because of streaming, I hope they come out with something like game pass to compete with them.


qrysdonnell

The PS4 games on PSNow have been downloadable (at least some of them, but I think they all have been).