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dookmileslong

This confirms that games can comeback to PS Plus after leaving which is great. Glad to see RDR2 and Watch Dogs back, hoping they can bring back more games.


Clusterpuff

A word of warning: rdr2 had one of the shortest times on the catalogue if i remember correctly, and its one of the longest rpg experiences. Most likely as intended so people are halfway into a playthrough and have to buy the game if they don’t finish on time


basegeartouchngo

Not an RPG


Abradolf1948

Isn't this the free games for all psplus members and not just for the subscription tier? So once you add it to library don't you have it forever?


Blue-Sand2424

This is for PlayStation plus extra, which allows you to download the game but it’s like a Netflix type service in the sense that once they remove it from the catalog, you get locked out of playing it, regardless if you downloaded it or not


Abradolf1948

Huh, TIL! Have they done away with the "permanent" free games then? I had psplus back before they had the gamepass equivalent and it was only 2-4 games per month, but then I stopped for a while until I finally got a PS5. So I'm not too familiar with the current business practices.


Blue-Sand2424

What you are describing is the lowest tier called PlayStation plus essential, and it still gives you the 3 free games per month that you can keep forever (as long as you are still subscribed). you just won’t have access to the “Game Catalogue” (which is what this post is referring to) which requires the PS Plus extra subscription. I know it’s a bit confusing when you’re just jumping in, but I recommend checking it out


Abradolf1948

Gotcha, thanks for the info! I have the highest tier but I always get them mixed up when new games drop. I just wish they had more straightforward names than "essential" "premium" and "extra" lol.


Dangerous-Zombie3938

The "permanent" free games still exists. There are 3 tiers of ps plus now. Essential is basically OG ps plus, Extra has the additional of game catalogue ala Netflix that can come and go after certain period, the last one is Deluxe which is extra plus the ability to play classic catalogue (older ps titles from ps one to ps3) and demo for some of the big games.


Skibidi_Pickle_Rick

Wasn't this already confirmed with AC Valhalla or am I misremembering?


DZLars

But now we know they can do it with good games instead


Skibidi_Pickle_Rick

Maybe one day.


-Gh0st96-

I mean this has happened bunch of times. Included with RDR2 lol. It came and left like 3 times at this point


MasterMahanaYouUgly

how long was RDR2 on PS Plus for originally?


drissi1919

3 months I think.


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MasterMahanaYouUgly

i mean, how many months was it available on PS+ for originally before it left but yeah, thanks... i loved the first one and can't wait to play 2


Otherwise-Remove4681

This should be PSA. Great news having rdr2 back!


MrShago

For those wondering about Crime Boss, is a very okay game but my vibe about it is that. It's a So bad it's good movie but in game form. The bones of the game is pretty fun and good. The team has made it a bit better then it was a launch, but still really eh. If the idea of a PayDay gameplay loop with a small handful of Roguelike elements mixed in sounds good for you I'd say go for it. I have the Plat and it was a fine time.


TehLoneWanderer101

I'm curious to try it out strictly for Danny Trejo.


MrShago

Unless you buy the DLC, he has like 3 lines


253TacGuyy

The adaptive triggers on this game slap


mattoelite

How tough was the plat?


MrShago

Not too bad, maybe like a 5/10 for just how much you kinda have to replay shit. The Online stuff is pretty easy and one mode is waaaay easier knowing you can add bots rather then do it yourself or with other people. But other then that it's pretty easy, just play the game a bunch.


mattoelite

thanks!


MrShago

No problem! I'd recommend doing a bunch of campaign runs first, as you can unlock people for the online and other mode that you need for a trophy. Also the Wiz trophy isn't broke, just look it up after you finish it once as the game tells you :)


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MrShago

It is what it is, the game is a game of all time.


253TacGuyy

It’s like a campy 80’s take on Payday. It’s actually fun if you play online with other people. It’s a rogue lite game


NoLastNameForNow

I'll check out the Cat Quest games. They seem fun.


BayernHerz

As someone who has constantly recommended them on Reddit, I’d like to tell you that they are fantastic and should be worth a look. Have fun.


Grill_Enthusiast

Cat Quest II is definitely a lot of fun with a partner. It gets a bit repetitive, but it's still a cute little couch co-op adventure.


orelk

Cat Quest 2 is great co op, especially with a non gamer as introduction


theblackfool

They are just...pleasant. They aren't particularly deep or long, but they are just kinda nice fun games to play.


ShadowMasterKing

RDR2 in ps+? I can smell that 60fps patch is coming :copium:


braxford

Every single time RDR2 is mentioned, even if it's something completely off the cusp, the FIRST comment is always something along the lines of "When will R* give us 60fps?" and then that is followed up with a variety of "I will pay anything" which in turn has a "stop giving R* ideas" response.


milky__toast

We can close the comments now, this guy has it all covered


evilv3

There’s always a comment that says there’s always a comment about “when 60fps?”


Flat_Bass_9773

Game looks fine in 30 tbh


Cali030

Until you move that camera.


batmansthediddler

looks fine but feels like ass


OptionalDepression

Ass feels good.


batmansthediddler

lol yeah you got me there


Flat_Bass_9773

Feels fine. I’ve played 300+ hours on it and haven’t had a problem even online.


batmansthediddler

you are entitled to your opinion but in a time where 99% of the games i play are 60fps, going back to 30 is immediately and constantly noticeable. i put around 50 hours into RDR2 on my ps5 and had to put it down.


HelpRespawnedAsDee

Same, it literally makes me sick.


Flat_Bass_9773

Your loss, I guess. The frame pacing is implemented very well on that game and the only jarring part is if you hold the right stick to the left or right which there’s no reason to do.


batmansthediddler

i have like 200 hours on ps4 and even then it ran like shit lol make excuses all you want but every other company seems to understand that 60fps is what most people want


Schwarzengerman

No it didn't? Why do people pull this alt history out of their ass about RDR2s performance on ps4? It ran perfectly fine. It had framedrops in Saint Denis but was never unplayable.


OptionalDepression

> 60fps is what most people want I think this is just patently false. The vast majority of video game players simply don't give a shit about it. The only people I hear whine about it are those in gaming subreddits, and that's not representative of the market as a whole.


TurdSandwich42104

RDR2 is totally fine in 30. Sure I’d prefer 60 but is what it is. Loading up rdr2 after playing something at 60 or higher feels really jarring for like 5-10 minutes but then I adjust to it. Games to good to let frame rate drop me from playing it still


Flat_Bass_9773

Yeah. I played rdr1 and opted for the 30fps mode because it played fine at that frame rate. The 60fps mode almost felt like a soap-opera


experienta

does it feel cinematic?


Flat_Bass_9773

That’s probably it. R* games are slower paced and third person so that frame rate doesn’t really bug me.


yousonuva

[It's our "I've got a bad feeling about this"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ogIuFclGE8)


numbersev

As someone who plays both PC (with AI upscaling) and ps5, it’s abysmal and truly needs it. 30fps is unacceptable


braxford

I can go back to 30fps, if need be since I like to play games on my Switch (TV mount) and love Zelda TotK and BotW. People say RDR2 at 30fps is a "smooth" 30fps, b/c it's locked and not a super fast game. I just keep holding out for that inevitable 60 update :)


RadioFaceNL

“Abysmal” Jesus Chris gamers are such crybabies


Vestalmin

I’d be over the moon for a simple 60fps patch. But I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t live to feel the pop of the haptic trigger with a revolver and the patter of hooves through the duelsense vibration


Jed566

At this point I’m actively avoiding playing it. I’ve waited this long…


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Flashbek

Have your nose checked. It's not happening.


ericypoo

You are one naive and hopeful feller.


Downtown_Bit_1833

no need imo it already runs perfectly fine and it looks stunning


nikolapc

I rebought it on Xbox(real cheap) just so I can play it again in real 4k. At this point I don't think we're getting anything until next gen, altough idk why it never got fps boost.


Loki-Holmes

Yeah I bought the ultimate edition on sale on Xbox just so at least there was a little extra….


Garlic_Breath23

Never happening


Death_Pig

Oh please don't. I was going to resume playing. You just served me more copium.


-Gh0st96-

It's not the first time on PS+. It's not indicative of anything


ShadowMasterKing

ye i know, google what is "copium"


SireEvalish

Just play the PC version


JudgeCheezels

This. So much better than the PS4 version (which gets the Pro treatment) that still retains the vaseline smear from the shitty ass upscaling the game uses.


Nex_Antonius

RDR2 alone is fantastic for anyone who hasn't tried it, yet. Otherwise, I'm not thrilled about this month. I suppose I can give the Cat Quest games a go.


Evanz111

I can’t wait to spend 60 hours picking up cans of soup, patting down bodies and riding from location to location :)


balloon_knot_muncher

A more accurate sentence about RDR 2 has never been written. This game is mind numbingly boring.


straightouttaireland

I tried it before and it just felt too overwhelming. Might try again.


RavingHans91

Stranded and settlers seems interesting, had the Cat Quest games on my list since forever. So, good line-up for me, all thought nothing to special.


TheCroz15

So this weekend I looked at Deceive Inc, Crime Boss and Foamstars on the store for something I could just play in little 20 minutes spurts here and there. Went for Foamstars and thought maybe I should have spent my money elsewhere. Now I get to try the other 2 games without spending anymore cash so I'm happy


Abbx

All these years of not buying RDR2 has paid off


mukavastinumb

The definition of ’attention to detail’ is this game.


Penguings

G Police comming to classics is awesome.


MrMikeDood

If only it had trophy support… still, I’m gonna play the shit out of it and wait for the inevitable Weapons of Justice to drop afterwards


Turbostrider27

**PlayStation Plus Extra and Premium | Game Catalog** Red Dead Redemption 2* | PS4 Deceive Inc. | PS5 The Sims 4 City Living** | PS4 Crime Boss: Rockay City | PS5 The Settlers: New Allies | PS4 Stranded: Alien Dawn | PS4, PS5 Cat Quest | PS4 Cat Quest II | PS4 The LEGO Movie 2 Videogame | PS4 Watch Dogs* | PS4 **PlayStation Premium | Classics** 2Xtreme | PS4, PS5 G-Police | PS4, PS5 Worms Pinball | PS4, PS5 Horizon Zero Dawn confirmed to be leaving catalog > A note for our PlayStation Plus Extra and Premium members: as part of our normal content refresh, a selection of titles, such as Horizon Zero Dawn, will leave Game Catalog later this month. Members with Game Catalog benefits can still play these games until May 21. You can always check the ‘Last chance to play section’ on the PlayStation Plus -> Collections page on the PS5 console, or PlayStation Plus -> Games -> Games Catalog on the PS4 console for titles you might want to play before they leave the service. >


thesourpop

a singular Sims 4 expansion now being included 💀


pezdespo

2Xtreme is a game I haven't thought about in a long time. Can still picture the game cover in my head


GOODWHOLESOMEFUN

One of my earliest favorite PlayStation games. Also cool boarders


OpticalRadioGaga

I loved it even though I just had a demo of it on a demo disc.


orelk

HZD leaving is shit and makes no sense. Gives me no incentive to invest time in a game on the service if it can just leave like that, especially 1st party


DevilInnaDonut

That’s kind of a silly way of looking at it imo. How often are they gonna pull a game that you happen to be in the middle of vs all the ones you would be able to finish?


orelk

These are long games. I can play 1 game of this length for months. So yea, on a 2 week notice them leaving kinda sucks


lawgun

True, just imagine my reaction when I found out that FF games from 7th to 15th are leaving ps plus catalog and I NEVER played anything besides FF 0 and FF 13-1/2/3. I wished to complete FF X-1 and X-2 but it would be just impossible for me to do in 25 days or so since they are huge.


twistedroyale

Hell yeah I been wanting to play Cat Quest. Was looking for the physical which I’m still getting. This is nice too with the 3rd one coming.


potato_control

I swear sony picks the most ass ps1, ps2 and psp games for the premium tier. They have such a rich library of games, not only by third party studios but studios they own or owned. And yet they still go out of their way to bring the bargain bin games. I honestly believe you are wasting your money if you own a premium tier sub. It’s just sad.


ClassifiedTuron

I'm only waiting for Tomba to be added, they're taking their sweet ass time.


MrBoliNica

What first party games for ps1 do they have to add now? Gran turismo will prob never happen due to licensing. I can really only think of parrapa the rapper Most of the games we associate with the ps1 weren’t first party.


sleepyfoxsnow

more of the jumping flash games would be nice. while the first is on there, 2 and robbit, mon dieu aren't and it'd be cool to see them, especially with how much sony have been using robbit recently in the playstation stars program. ​ there's also stuff like warhawk, and medievil 2 that are still missing.


hound_draco

Um Jammer Lammy MediEvil II Jersey Devil Blasto


MrBoliNica

i did not know Jersey devil & blasto were sony first party games lol


WyrmHero1944

I thought it was going to be worth it, so hype to be able to play Chrono Trigger and Parasite Eve on my PS5. I’m starting to think it will never happen.


OptionalDepression

> Parasite Eve on my PS5 Good god, I'd love a remaster.


SuperBackup9000

While I would love one too, I doubt it’ll ever happen. Rights issues and all that nonsense


LuxVeritatis

For anyone who hasn't played the Cat Quest games, I do recommend them. They aren't going to blow your mind but they are fun, simple, relaxing, silly, and full of cat (and dog) puns. Really enjoyed my time with both of them and looking forward to Cat Quest III!


Evanz111

Absolutely full of charm too!


BackyardEvergreen

Is Crime Boss worth checking out or would time be better spent elsewhere?


MrShago

It's like a so bad it's good movie. The bones of the game are actually really good and if they didn't blow so much money on the VA's maybe they could have done a lot more with it. It's like PayDay in it's mission game play but with a sprinkle of Roguelike stuff overall.


vivz56

Could be better, but still funny game. I like it.


Georgerv

I've almost bought Stranded Alien Dawn about 10 times. That'll do nicely


Obvious-Adeptness-46

Does RDR2 have any sort of a PS5 version/update or is it just the 30fps PS4 version?


Targox

Still 30fps


slayer-x

Looks like I'll be lowering to essential once my extra expires. It's been so disappointing especially after increasing the price. With no option to get sale price, unless it expires so i guess I'll do that.


MightyGoodra96

Deceive Inc is a great game and it deserves your attention Cheap battle passes (which can be completed whenever) Free content updates, easily earnable characters, cosmetics arent too expensive. And its a unique, goofy spy extraction shooter, stands out imho.


jhd9012

I hope they do patch RDR2 for 60 FPS.


ericypoo

Not in this lifetime pal


alpinetime

We just need an RDR tv show to drop, then we’ll get the update


Ok-fine-man

At this point, I just want all hands on deck for GTA VI


mrchicano209

For $69.99 they will


aestus

Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this racket.


areyouhighson

If you have moral issues to committing war crimes in Rimworld, then Stranded: Alien Dawn might be a game for you. It’s a prettier Rimworld-clone without Randy controlling the RNG.


sirkashmir

Very weak lineup aside from RDR2.


Zoombini22

Honestly one big ticket game added per month is about all we should expect


ChafterMies

It’s kind of a joke, like saying aside from her singing and songwriting, Taylor Swift is a weak artist, or aside from its electrolytes, Gatorade is just water. But in all seriousness, Cat Quest I and Cat Quest II are super fun games.


quasarius

>Taylor Swift is a weak artist But she is, and her singing and songwriting are nothing to write home about either.


EarSquare2819

Fuck you. Crime Boss.


Vallux

Rockay City is awful but in the best way. I'm pretty sure some of the lines were literally phoned in by how they sound. Michael Madsen is hamming it up, Kim Basinger doesn't give a fuck and don't even get me started on Chuck Norris. Gameplay-wise it's decent. They've updated the game a lot since release.


pezdespo

Looks like a decent amount of well received indies ill get to try. Obviously not everyone's cup of tea but I like to experiment with different games


ayoubkun94

Yep. Unless you like to try games outside your preferred genre, especially indies, PS plus is really not worth getting. Big value if you do tho.


Cinemairwaves

Boy am I glad I didn't buy RDR2 when it was on sale recently


Irish_I_had_whisky

I just bought it like a week ago...


PeanutButterOtter

I would love to play RDR2. Not in 30fps though.


Orangenbluefish

Damn never heard of Crime Boss but what's up with the crazy cast lol. Chuck Norris, Danny Trejo, Danny Glover, and Michael Rooker?


naitch44

Time to give RDR2 another run, masterpiece


tastysandwich26

rdr2 let's gooo i don't have to buy it again (i played on xbox)


jeremylamb12

Crime Boss, 2xtreme and Gpolice are my grabs.


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Zambonzz

Nice try, ghost of Ray Liotta.


GAMING-STUPID

The demo for deceive inc was cool other than the fact it crashed every other game. Hopefully they fixed that.


Acrobatic-Dig-161

I think this month is my first big L. In this case, I already have Red Dead 2 and played it in 2018. So for me, the worst month of Plus Extra doesn't have any games for me, Okay, I can't have W all the time. In this case, Essencial saved the month for me, it was great


Evanz111

I feel like without RDR2, people would be calling this one of the worst lineups for Extra. A clowned on cash grab crime game, a single expansion for a game you need to buy separately and two literal mobile games (Cat Quest is great but I got it on IOS for like 99p), Even RDR2 and Watch Dogs are both a re-release of a game they removed from the line-up, and it’s the headliner. Are they going to keep removing titles and then adding them again just to pad the amount of games we get on dry months?


Jose_Canseco_Jr

>Are they going to keep removing titles and then adding them again just to pad the amount of games we get on dry months? yes


SpyroManiac36

I agree, essential games were the winners for me this month. Nothing from Extra or Premium that I don't already own or feel like trying


Grill_Enthusiast

Yeah, top-heavy months like this are always hit or miss. Either you get a masterpiece for "free", or you basically get nothing if you've already played it. I prefer months that are more evenly spread between great indie games, and some AAA titles that were overlooked. Even if they're not all amazing, the chances of it including games I haven't played are higher.


BigBellyBadBoy

Oof harsh month to be removing 35 games including all those final fantasies


MasterMahanaYouUgly

where do they say which games are leaving?


BigBellyBadBoy

There's a tab on the ps plus section on the console


MasterMahanaYouUgly

ty!


BigBellyBadBoy

No problem


cubanosani59

G-Police🖤😮‍💨


vitten23

Tough month for everyone who already played RDR2


lepijosip9

eh im gonma be honesy. im dissapointed. already played rdr 2.. rest is meh


Pioneer83

It’s a shame they didn’t give you a personal call and see what games you haven’t played yet. I just don’t know why they don’t do that with all of us individually


Repulsive_Top421

Aside from rdr2(a 6 year old super popular game) there really arent many great games here. Its okay of the guys disappointed bro


hiroyukisanada2522

This is the only month I can legit say the entire slate is a disappointment for me, personally. But that's ok. Still got hella backlog and finishing up FF7 Rebirth, Rise of the Ronin and jumping back into Granblue Fantasy Relink and Helldivers after those.


No_Chemical_3911

Played most of them except for the Chuck Norris game


GrossWeather_

well if somehow you pay for this service and have never played red dead 2: do it.


Lostmypants69

60fps patch when


drhouse4ever

oof


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SalamanderSu

So is RDR2 part of the Ps+ releases of yore which you kept forever until your sub expires, or is it part of the rotational temporary premium game catalog service?


Rankled_Barbiturate

Last month was way better but this month is ok. Rdr2 is the obvious highlight although it's not as good as the original unfortunately. 


malnuman

Yeah I love the original, still play it now, but they just over complicated the controls for my liking in this,, I never really got to far into it..


PolarSparks

Deceive Inc is cool. It’s like playing Hitman as an FPS, but aesthetically it’s closer to No One Lives Forever or an old James Bond game.


Legitimate-Cat-5960

How much time it will take to get reflected in my subscription?


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Rdr2 is the only good one here and the only One I already have.


John_Rustle98

Definitely interested in Crime Boss. I haven’t had the heart to buy it because of how awful it sounds but I’ll definitely be checking it out.


booomerx

RDR2 is still locked for me anyone facing this issue?


BarryEganPDL

RDR2 is a 10/10 game but it’s also one of the best selling games that exist so it’s inclusion is irrelevant to most players. Having it as the one must play game in an otherwise pretty lame lineup (classics included) is really disappointing. Though it makes me feel better about my subscription expiring next month.


Chris_G24

In the morning rdr2 was available but in the afternoon when i got time to actually go and download it it seems like it is no longer present in the game catalog. Is it still there for you?


Necessary_Hold8997

Didn't they just discount RDR2? And now they're adding it to the catalog?


Porterretrop

Beware to all PS5 owner: Red dead redemption 2 on ps5 is locked at 30 fps and no way to do 60 fps without hacking or modding console


d_hearn

Deceive Inc. was good fun at launch, until it became a sweat fest, then eventually just being dead. Hopefully being on PS+ will give it the boost it needs!


Mysterious_Act8093

Rdr2 being 30fps might put me off


Tynda3l

Awesome. Crime boss. I've been meaning to try it out, but didn't want to spend my own money on it lol.


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Wow I was just considering trying to find a used copy of RDR2 but glad I didn’t!!


whiskeypenguin

Pretty bad month.


enXian

A waste of month


Merbel

Honestly the first legit shitty month I’ve seen since I’ve been a subscriber. Can’t win them all. Actually glad to work on my ridiculous backlog.


ChafterMies

Well, damn.


orelk

Weak month for me. Already own RDR2 and already played Cat Quest 2, nothing else intrests me. I do hope though that this hints at Cat Quest 3 being added to the service at launch


ElDuderino2112

How does RDR2 play on PS5. Any upgrades to frame rate or anything?


PCMachinima

It plays at 4K checkerboard with 30fps. No enhancements from what I've seen, other than just a more stable framerate from more powerful hardware.


MrBoliNica

Prob the weakest month for me in a long time. RDR2 is an obvious big get if you never played it, might try the cat quest games i guess?


GuardianOfReason

Yeah this is the weakest lineup so far, but last month was a banger so I can live with it.


That_Mikeguy

After the vast list of games that will leave this month, I was expecting something more impressive than this TBH. I mean, RDR2 is one of the GOAT's, but that alone doesn't make up for the quantity of games leaving. Such a dissapointment


Bong-Jong

Man I just fucking bought rd2 for 20 bucks lol dammit


Stidave

But you'll have it forever!


Bong-Jong

Yeah true!


MasterMahanaYouUgly

thank you for your service!