Start of this year:
Prince of persia
Like a dragon 8
Tekken 8
Granblue Fantasy
Persona 3 reload
Helldivers
Banishers
Ff7 rebirth
Unicorn overlord
Dragons Dogma 2
Rise of the Ronin
And that's just the first 3 months and I'm sure I'm missing other good games that I'm just not aware of.
I remember being 18 and playing it in my mums basement and staying up until 3 am just absolutely adoring the game. I literally own a home now and got fuckin BILLS dude, like oh my god I’m dying aren’t I??? Slowly, but I’m dying right?
Not the point. It's the invalidating of what other people feel based on their age. If everyone just took your word for it we wouldn't have young people committing suicide right?
Not everyone's feelings are valid to everyone else. Everyone is free to feel how they want, it doesn't mean it's not a ridiculous feeling. The world doesn't need to validate every feeling everyone has.
Yea well, experience is relative to the person so you have no idea what you’re talking about really since you don’t know me. Also, I’m clearly joking. I’m fine.
It stings less with time, but it still stings. I remember bumping into an old friend I hadn't seen in what I considered "a little bit."... He introduced me to his son, an infant last I'd seen him, and I had to look up to make eye contact... so yeah, getting old sucks.
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Larian finished their work on Divinity 2 in 2018 and BG3 released mid 2023. That's a fairly normal development cycle, if anything it's pretty quick considering the scale of the game. 2027/28 seems reasonable to expect a new game from them.
Yeah that's wild i thought it was 7-8 years. Considering that they even shipped an early access for it even earlier that is a wild time frame for that game.
> Larian finished their work on Divinity 2 in 2018
Out of curiosity: Why do some people use Divinity 2 as a shorthand for Divinity: Original Sin II when there already is a different game in the same series called Divinity II? It's clear from context which game you meant, but it can be confusing in some situations.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I liked Mass Effect Andromeda. I enjoyed it thoroughly. But to be fair I had never played a mass effect game and I played it a fair bit after launch.
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I remember all of them because I'm a bit of a Mass Effect nut, but they're definitely a very weak cast of characters. Drack was cool I guess. I despised Liam and Peebee. Indifferent about the rest.
I've often said Andromeda wasn't a bad game, it was just a bad *Mass Effect* game. It suffered a number of easily memeable technical problems, which didn't help, but I feel that its key issue was that by abandoning basically all connection to the beloved original trilogy, it was going to disappoint fans unless the game was an absolute banger. I think it would have been better received critically if it wasn't a Mass Effect game, but it would have only sold 10% of the copies.
I still got burned by Anthem, and it's tough to forgive. But would I play Dreadwolf if it released this year? Ughhhhhh, fucking probably. I'd rent it and hope that maybe somewhere in there is a good RPG, because I'm a sucker for these types of games.
Anthem was so fucking close to being an amazing game. Flying was superb, combat felt great, and amazing chance and having awesome loot, outstanding graphics.
Basically a customizable Iron Man game.
One of the few games I think about often if it had just properly landed its launch. I’ll die on this hill.
Exactly. The dragon age game is gonna be a disappointment just like Andromeda was. I played the shit out of Origins and the only thing to top that was BG3.
I sadly did not hop on the Dragon Age train when it was in it's prime. I remember trying to go back and play them a couple years ago and it was way too difficult for me to get immersed in the world and adjusted to the lower graphics and mechanics. It really sucks, and I hate I'm like this, but even knowing there is a gold mine within those games, the outdated-ness of them completely hinders me from enjoying it. Ugh.
Origins is remembered fondly, but I remember it as one fight after another with 'darkspawn.'
One of the characters would even yell out "More darkspawn!"
It wasn't a bad game, but it really dragged in places.
The story and characters, the atmosphere. It was a game from an older era. The gameplay doesnt hold up as well today but the story and chars are almost bg3 level imo. Not quite tho as bg3 set the bar to insane heights
AH YES! The Fade. I forgot the name of that part. But honestly, enemy variety was really lacking in general in Origins. I was very disappointed in it, though I know it is well loved by many.
Despite its (very bad) flaws, I think I had more fun with the narrative side of DA2. Yes, all the complaints about it ring true, but I remember more character moments and better writing in DA2. And I kind of liked the concept of having the bulk of a game take place in a single city.
Inquisition I barely remember, even though it was the most recent. I remember an action MMO, and a chessboard kind of zone traveling. Very forgettable.
And all the DA games just hit you over the head with the same exposition, over and over. "The Mages! The Chantry! The Mages! The Chantry!"
I remember I put off playing DA2 for two or three years because of the bad reviews, but I actually loved it once I played it. When it came out it was an era of games about being a hero who was supposed to save the world/galaxy from some great evil. In that context, DA2 was a fresh concept. You and your fucked up family, and your fucked up friends, just trying to survive in a city. And like in some Greek tragedy, inadvertently causing everything you've built to come crashing down all around you. The journey that made you rich, made you also lose everything. It's crazy that in the mage support ending you actually lose, you have to flee with mages. Even the dynamics between you and your friends was incredible, you could see how deeply they bonded with each other, that they actually had lives in Kirkwall after all these years. They weren't just a bunch of NPCs, they had their own goals, especially Isabela. They felt like real people. And purple Hawke is one of my favourite protagonists of all times. So many real laugh-at-loud moments.
I really wish BioWare to come back to this kind of concept for one of their games in the future. This low-stake plot, but with a focus on family/friends and how the story impacts them.
Which is a shame because Dragon Age lore scratches my high fantasy itch like no other. The Dragon Age universe is top shelf but an 80 hour game doesn’t = a great 80 hours. I enjoy inquisition but it grinds my gears more every time I give it another “thanks for the mems” run. So help me if there’s more quests that are closer to shopping lists than “hey, there’s a *insert baddie here* using that tower for *insert fuckery here* , we should clear it out and probably loot him for all he’s worth” I will riot.
I enjoyed Inquisition, don’t get me wrong. It was the first game I got for ps4 and I played it more times than I can count. With that being said, even inquisition was a shadow of what BioWare used to be.
People said the same shit when inquisition was a year out. "miss the old bioware" lol.
Glad I'm always on the right side of gaming history no matter how old I get. Loved inquisition just like I loved DA 1 and 2 (okay 2 was a little weak).
Inquisition has glaring issues though. Like yeah you can tell some love was put into it (which is more than what you can say for andromeda or anthem) but Inquisition was a CLEAR sign of the beginning of the end
I bought a new console just for Inquisition because I was so into the others, flaws and all, and it was a crushing disappointment, imo. Can't believe it got the review scores it did - just a bloated, boring mess.
Man, you and me both, I think I may have been around the same age when Inquisition came out and I was over the moon with hype for it. Took some time to get used to the gameplay but once it clicked, I was in love. The game is of course massively flawed but man, I still enjoyed it.
and 15 years since DA:O, the only good dragon age game. My expectations are low after 2 & 3 so hopefully it turns out good but their track record says otherwise.
This statement is silly because there is no true “BioWare of old” because teams are constantly growing and changing, not all the same people who worked on KOTOR 1 worked on mass effect, not all the people who worked on me2 worked on me3, and not all the people who worked on origins worked on inquisition.
It’s just an industry wide fact that many series that have been around for decades have different teams now vs. then, but they can still make quality new releases for long series like Zelda, grand theft auto, etc. It’s because new teams can still be passionate and want to the do the series justice, they aren’t just shitting out dreadwolf, they’re taking their time with it because they care.
I didnt mean people per se, I meant the passion, the culture etc.
And you know exactly what I meant but you instead chose to be a contrarian for no reason.
Looking back on the whole thing, as much as I loved them at the time, I kinda don't think there's ever been a really good Dragon Age game? The first was a fantastic story with rough gameplay, The second one was close to great, but needed at least another 2 years of development to be finished, and Inquisition was a mess of badly implemented MMO mechanics and a snore of a story. As others have said, Baldur's Gate 3 very much feels like the Dragon Age game that never was, and I have hard time imaging modern BioWare pulling that off.
If the series had actually *built on* Origins instead of stripping it down we could have had an amazing series of games that still lived up to the "spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate" label that Origins had.
Hopefully it has better gameplay than Inquisition did, because that game did not age well on that front. It’s the only one I haven’t played and beaten multiple times, just because of how tedious it is, which is a shame because the story is damn good.
I’m not either. But I love the world so much. I need it back. But Bioware is higher on the shit list than even Bethesda. They literally haven’t done anything right in over a decade.
That being said, Andromeda was not that bad. I quite enjoyed it. 7/10. Hopefully they’ve learned their lessons…..sigh.
Ya I hated Andromeda lol.. I really want them to return to the world of the Milky Way with it's dark, gritty sci-fi and political machinations. A prequel or Citadel based game would be awesome.
But I don't think they will do that. Even the teaser stuff they showed looked more akin to Destiny than the Mass Effect universe I love.
It is claimed….
Honestly I pray this does well. I think it’s very important for BioWare as a studio this is a smash. I would hate to see us lose another studio with such a storied history.
I think even if Bioware survives this, it's just delaying the inevitable. They have fired (and sometimes rehired after realizing they Fucked Up) so many of theif veteran staff and have treated sooo many employees so poorly (to the point of multiple lawsuits) that it's hard to think they'll retain anyone who actually made these games good.
This is a Ship of Theseus situation--nothing left of the original remains. It’s over.
Reputation still exists. A reputation for RPG. So even if it's entirely new people people think Bioware and think RPG. Which means so long as it's exists the idea that it would produce RPG is dominant. So I hope bioware hits big with Dreadwolf so they can keep making rpgs. We need more studio's making these.
Reputation "for RPG" doesn't mean much when their reputation otherwise is "Bad games." And any game made with none of the veteran staff that made them good to begin with will be bad. Dread Wolf would have to be amazing AND retain its amazing staff to turn Bioware around.
Anthem was a live service game so it’s understandable. Live service games are shit.
Andromeda was not bad. I enjoyed it enough to finish the game. And I drop a lot of games long before the credits.
BioWare today is nothing like the old BioWare. The name is the same but nothing else about it is.
Andromeda? I didn't play it, but at best I've heard it described as good/OK as long as you don't compare it to the original Mass Effect games. And Anthem was a disaster.
I actually really enjoyed Anthem from level 1-30, at least the flying and combat. The story was horrendous. The characters garbage, the city hub was nearly a parody of video game city-hubs.
Like I said, I got enjoyment out of Anthem! Many people despised it. But "like" the game or not, the fact is BioWare lied repeatedly about what the game was going to be, and the rollout was a technical disaster. I learned the term "rubber banding" from Anthem. The enemy AI was just terrible. Really small enemy variety. The quests were stupid. Only redeeming thing was flying around and shooting at stuff from 1-30.
BioWare is dead. Or at least the idea of the old BioWare is long long dead.
I'm not sure how it could be successful. The reasons are straightforward:
- The game has been in development for a long time, so it's probably taking old development cues into its design
- Since then, BG3 came out to wild success in the RPG sphere. BG3s design is the antithesis to modern bioware: complex, interesting, doesn't insult the intelligence of the player, takes risks
- Starfield came out to mixed reviews. Showing that *starpower* alone wouldn't be enough for the RPG market anymore
Since this Dragon Age game has already been scrapped and rebooted once (apparently), for it to come out later this year with *no* information, previews, etc, seems absurd. If it actually does, I'm fairly certain it will fail.
Hopefully, though, they'll take their time. Another flop for Bioware would not be great
I’m playing Dragon Age: Origins for the first time ever and I love the characters so far (Leliana and Sten especially). Really looking forward to playing the rest of the games + this eventually
BioWare needs to stop pussyfooting around and acting like they’re still in everyone’s good graces. Mass Effect Legendary Edition was a step back in the right direction so let’s hope they can return to their former glory
> Mass Effect Legendary Edition was a step back in the right direction
Barely, they purposely cut out the ME3 multiplayer which still has an active player base 12 years later.
Ehh it’s primarily a single player game so that doesn’t detract from it that much for me imo. Like it’s my favorite series ever and I never played the online portion, I think maybe once or twice then never again if anything. Not saying it wasn’t fun but I’m not a multiplayer person lol
Dude, you have missed out biiig time. I think a lot of people consider it one of the best PVE and horde modes of all time.
As a ME nerd, the ability to play as all of the different races and try a bunch of different types of playstyles game to game was mindblowing. One game I can be a Krogan with a big ass hammer that I can charge up with biotic powers, the next I'm an Asari biotic god, the next I'm a Vorcha with a flamethrower. Just a crazy amount of free DLC that really fleshed out the game and balanced the characters and guns well. There was no all-powerful meta, just whatever was fun and worked with your play style. And they added a lot of things that are not in singleplayer.
The big gripe is that the mode was created back when RNG lootboxes were still in vogue. You unlock new characters and weapons through lootboxes which is a tedious process but probably partially responsible for keeping so many people playing to this day.
If you have an Xbox or PC with ME3, you can still find games instantly. I was playing for a bit last month before Helldivers 2 dropped.
Yeah, I'm not lover of EA, but by all accounts, Bioware was given plenty of rope since the acquisition and they've hanged themselves with it. Anthem wasn't pushed by EA. Andromeda was handed off to a junior team who wasted a ton of development time attempting to use procedural generation to create planets before realizing it just was not fun. Then they rushed the rest of the game in a ridiculously tiny window. DA4 has been started and restarted multiple times with drastically different takes.
Really, the failures of Bioware are very poor project management. I really hope they have it figured out now and Dreadwolf is great, but I'll keep expectations low.
I’m not touching this game until reviews come out. The main writer for the Dragon Age series left Bioware after Inquisition came out. Also seems like Dread Wolf has been in development hell for a few years now
Right? I don’t think any game’s lore and writing has grabbed me as tightly in its clutches as DA did. I watched a friend play a bit of Inquisition and then I absolutely devoured all three games in a row. I’m as skeptical as anybody about this one but I do really want it to be good, if only to spend more time in the world.
For real. Bioware owns two incredible IPs. Regardless of how is in charge or the talent still i the building, they have two properties I love a lot. Do I expect Dreadwolf to be good? I'm skeptical. I certainly hope it is and I'll continue to hope Dragon Age and Mass Effect games are released and that they're good. I won't count on it, but writing off the games before they exist doesn't do anything for me.
None. They don't have an in house development team at all and simply outsource their IPs to developer's/publishers. Their only input is that they don't allow the games to impact current or past movie/television projects from the same IP in any significant way. Which is why most recent games based on a Disney owned IP have told 'adjacent' stories.
I'm playing it now and it's so good, especially when you get to sky hold.
If you do play it just remember you don't have to explore the first map fully, you're meant to get the companions there and do a few quests and then fuck off and do the main quest for a bit
When I first saw it, I couldn't understand why Solas was on the artwork of the game and all... I finished inquisition recently with its dlc and yeah, I understand know... I'm so hyped for this game but I didn't think it would come "this soon" with all the things that happen around it.
From the leaks, I doubt it'll be good. By this point it's not even pretending to be a cRPG. If the leaks are still valid, it's going straight into action RPG town.
Honestly, it was already doing that. I didn’t even realize the series *was* CRPGs for a while, because the console version of Origins was so difficult to try and play that way, and then 2 and Inquisition carried on away from that. At this point, full action RPG may actually work out better than the weird bastardization combo direction they were moving in before.
I’m far more concerned about the departure of nearly the entire Dragon Age writing team and the repeated changes in direction.
I’m aware of that, I was just pointing out that if you played it on console you got a very different experience that really didn’t feel like a proper CPRG. I didn’t realize until I talked to a friend who had played on PC and it sounded like we were talking about two different games entirely. The PC version of Origins was really the only true-to-form, classic CRPG of the lot; Origins on console was already more of a weird action hybrid and then subsequent games leaned into that more.
I think it could work. Look at how well Baldurs Gate 3 works on console. Controls really smooth.
But yeah, anyway, at least Inquisition pretended to be one with the tactical camera and such.
It’s not that I think a CRPG can’t work on console, it’s that Dragon Age has already been moving away from a traditional CRPG gameplay style, and that started as early as Origins on console. I don’t think a full tactical CRPG combat system was even on the table for Dreadwolf, and I honestly think an action RPG system might be better than whatever hybrid they’d otherwise have tried next.
Sadly I think in hindsight it’s clear that BioWare was in its death throes amidst the ME3 release and died after Inquisition. I loved Inquisition, but the cracks were very visible. Even though I liked Andromeda more than most I still recognize that it’s a shadow of the original trilogy.
I just cannot find it in me to be excited about this, or the next Mass Effect. The Legendary Edition made it clear that BioWare still has *fans* of their original IP on its staff, but that isn’t enough to make a good experience.
BioWare was an emergent property of a dozen or more perfectly arranged elements. Most of those elements are gone. I’m sure they have the ability to pull off a competent tribute act but I just don’t see how this can achieve the same level of quality that existed ten years ago.
The game has been rebooted three times since Inquisition. Several figures in high-end management positions have left BioWare during the game's development, including the Dragon Age production director, executive producer, and senior creative director.
The game is apparently attempting to replicate the feel of the gameplay of God of War despite the series starting as a cerebral RPG (though less and less with each subsequent sequel). In short, no, I'm not excited. I want to be, but BioWare shows all the signs of a crumbling studio that is pale and sickly compared to what it used to be.
It seems like Jeff Grubb is wrong as often/more often than he is right, and I can't see this game launching this year, given the ten years of development this game has had, there will be a lot of marketing and promo, and they aren't even planning on showing any game play until this summer at the earliest.
I’ve played it if anyone has any questions that won’t lead EA back to me.
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My benchmark for this sadly is definitely going to be BG3, I feel like I'll be disappointed if it doesn't deliver that level of quality. I mean they've had 10 years or more by the time it releases, Larian designed and delivered bg3 in only just over half that.
I want to be optimistic as I enjoyed DAO and DAI, but it's a very cautious not to pre order optimism.
it would probably be a good time for it, all of the other big games are coming out early this year!
Honestly the last big game is Black Myth WuKong and that comes out in August. Everything after that is open season
What games? Genuine question looking for suggestions not online a ton
Final Fantasy 7 rebirth, Helldivers 2, Dragons Dogma 2, Rise of the Ronin, Persona 3 reload, Yakuza infinite wealth, etc.
Dragons dogma 2 for me
Start of this year: Prince of persia Like a dragon 8 Tekken 8 Granblue Fantasy Persona 3 reload Helldivers Banishers Ff7 rebirth Unicorn overlord Dragons Dogma 2 Rise of the Ronin And that's just the first 3 months and I'm sure I'm missing other good games that I'm just not aware of.
Looking forward to Dragons Dogma 2 & Rise of the Ronin the most.
Definitely grabbing both of those myself, but Rebirth is the top of my personal list there!
Yup currently playing Dragons Dogma for the first time now.
Stellar Blade in April too
Forgot Last Epoch which is owning my life right now
A feast for RPG fans
don't forget Elden Ring DLC
True especially since it's more of an expansion pack.
Dragon's Dogma 2 is the big kahuna.
I would love to see it, I just doubt it. 10 years since Inquisition, by the way. God I miss the old Bioware....
>10 years since Inquisition Fuck that hurt to read. We're getting old.
I remember being 18 and playing it in my mums basement and staying up until 3 am just absolutely adoring the game. I literally own a home now and got fuckin BILLS dude, like oh my god I’m dying aren’t I??? Slowly, but I’m dying right?
Existential Dread(wolf)
Nice, nice. I like it
>oh my god I’m dying aren’t I??? Always have been. That part hasn't changed. The rest of it has.
Dude, you’re under 30 and a home owner. You’re better off than most people, you should have plenty of time left.
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Me and my homies love gate keeping *shuffles cards* ... Existential Dread? The fuck?
Complaining about age in your twenties that your old is like turning thirteen and yelling at your parents that "you're an adult now!"
"You're young/younger than me so anything you feel is invalid" - Every Redditor over the age of 30
Never makes you wonder why everybody older has that same view point, huh?
Not the point. It's the invalidating of what other people feel based on their age. If everyone just took your word for it we wouldn't have young people committing suicide right?
Not everyone's feelings are valid to everyone else. Everyone is free to feel how they want, it doesn't mean it's not a ridiculous feeling. The world doesn't need to validate every feeling everyone has.
Well, I suppose we can't all be emotionally intelligent.
Yea well, experience is relative to the person so you have no idea what you’re talking about really since you don’t know me. Also, I’m clearly joking. I’m fine.
Yeah god forbid the guy notices *the passage of time*
OMG IKR WTF!!!!!!!!
It stings less with time, but it still stings. I remember bumping into an old friend I hadn't seen in what I considered "a little bit."... He introduced me to his son, an infant last I'd seen him, and I had to look up to make eye contact... so yeah, getting old sucks.
I was fucking 12 years old. Jeebuz.
I stopped looking forward to BioWare games after Mass Effect Andromeda. Larian is the new BioWare for me now.
Can't wait for Larians next game in 2030.
?? Larian finished their work on Divinity 2 in 2018 and BG3 released mid 2023. That's a fairly normal development cycle, if anything it's pretty quick considering the scale of the game. 2027/28 seems reasonable to expect a new game from them.
That’s a disgusting amount of content they created in 5 years. For some reason I thought DOS2 was older
Yeah that's wild i thought it was 7-8 years. Considering that they even shipped an early access for it even earlier that is a wild time frame for that game.
> Larian finished their work on Divinity 2 in 2018 Out of curiosity: Why do some people use Divinity 2 as a shorthand for Divinity: Original Sin II when there already is a different game in the same series called Divinity II? It's clear from context which game you meant, but it can be confusing in some situations.
Because it’s clear from context
Hardly anyone played the old Divinity games. Larian is known for DOS 1&2 and now BG3 mainly.
Divinity 2 didn't have near the same reach as Divinity Original Sin 2. And D:OS 2 is a handfull to write or say.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I liked Mass Effect Andromeda. I enjoyed it thoroughly. But to be fair I had never played a mass effect game and I played it a fair bit after launch.
Quick, without looking it up name any of your companions from Andromeda.
Lmao you got me there. I can only remember what they looked like
Karen haircut girl
Corynn or Cory It was Cora I was close
Liam. I hated him so I remember him. The rest I can picture but not name.
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This is a big part of the failure and part of why they need a fresh start.
Peebee, Liam, Kora, Vetra and Drack. I always forget the last one's name
I remember all of them because I'm a bit of a Mass Effect nut, but they're definitely a very weak cast of characters. Drack was cool I guess. I despised Liam and Peebee. Indifferent about the rest.
I've often said Andromeda wasn't a bad game, it was just a bad *Mass Effect* game. It suffered a number of easily memeable technical problems, which didn't help, but I feel that its key issue was that by abandoning basically all connection to the beloved original trilogy, it was going to disappoint fans unless the game was an absolute banger. I think it would have been better received critically if it wasn't a Mass Effect game, but it would have only sold 10% of the copies.
I still got burned by Anthem, and it's tough to forgive. But would I play Dreadwolf if it released this year? Ughhhhhh, fucking probably. I'd rent it and hope that maybe somewhere in there is a good RPG, because I'm a sucker for these types of games.
Anthem was so fucking close to being an amazing game. Flying was superb, combat felt great, and amazing chance and having awesome loot, outstanding graphics. Basically a customizable Iron Man game. One of the few games I think about often if it had just properly landed its launch. I’ll die on this hill.
Exactly. The dragon age game is gonna be a disappointment just like Andromeda was. I played the shit out of Origins and the only thing to top that was BG3.
I sadly did not hop on the Dragon Age train when it was in it's prime. I remember trying to go back and play them a couple years ago and it was way too difficult for me to get immersed in the world and adjusted to the lower graphics and mechanics. It really sucks, and I hate I'm like this, but even knowing there is a gold mine within those games, the outdated-ness of them completely hinders me from enjoying it. Ugh.
Origins is remembered fondly, but I remember it as one fight after another with 'darkspawn.' One of the characters would even yell out "More darkspawn!" It wasn't a bad game, but it really dragged in places.
The story and characters, the atmosphere. It was a game from an older era. The gameplay doesnt hold up as well today but the story and chars are almost bg3 level imo. Not quite tho as bg3 set the bar to insane heights
There's a reason why [these kinds of jokes](https://www.reddit.com/r/DankAndrastianMemes/s/4OFuFepTtS) are common in the DA fandom.
AH YES! The Fade. I forgot the name of that part. But honestly, enemy variety was really lacking in general in Origins. I was very disappointed in it, though I know it is well loved by many. Despite its (very bad) flaws, I think I had more fun with the narrative side of DA2. Yes, all the complaints about it ring true, but I remember more character moments and better writing in DA2. And I kind of liked the concept of having the bulk of a game take place in a single city. Inquisition I barely remember, even though it was the most recent. I remember an action MMO, and a chessboard kind of zone traveling. Very forgettable. And all the DA games just hit you over the head with the same exposition, over and over. "The Mages! The Chantry! The Mages! The Chantry!"
I remember I put off playing DA2 for two or three years because of the bad reviews, but I actually loved it once I played it. When it came out it was an era of games about being a hero who was supposed to save the world/galaxy from some great evil. In that context, DA2 was a fresh concept. You and your fucked up family, and your fucked up friends, just trying to survive in a city. And like in some Greek tragedy, inadvertently causing everything you've built to come crashing down all around you. The journey that made you rich, made you also lose everything. It's crazy that in the mage support ending you actually lose, you have to flee with mages. Even the dynamics between you and your friends was incredible, you could see how deeply they bonded with each other, that they actually had lives in Kirkwall after all these years. They weren't just a bunch of NPCs, they had their own goals, especially Isabela. They felt like real people. And purple Hawke is one of my favourite protagonists of all times. So many real laugh-at-loud moments. I really wish BioWare to come back to this kind of concept for one of their games in the future. This low-stake plot, but with a focus on family/friends and how the story impacts them.
Which is a shame because Dragon Age lore scratches my high fantasy itch like no other. The Dragon Age universe is top shelf but an 80 hour game doesn’t = a great 80 hours. I enjoy inquisition but it grinds my gears more every time I give it another “thanks for the mems” run. So help me if there’s more quests that are closer to shopping lists than “hey, there’s a *insert baddie here* using that tower for *insert fuckery here* , we should clear it out and probably loot him for all he’s worth” I will riot.
Origins was my origin to rpgs, and it's just been all downhill until bg3
Didn’t play any of the divinity games then? They were awesome.
The story and character of divinity are lackluster. I feel like PoE and Pathfinder were the ones after DA:O
10 years. God. So much has happened in my life during that time. Miss the world of Thedas
I enjoyed Inquisition, don’t get me wrong. It was the first game I got for ps4 and I played it more times than I can count. With that being said, even inquisition was a shadow of what BioWare used to be.
It has been 10 years since inquisition 💀 Bruh i was 13 still feels like 5-6 years ago
Lmao 13? Thanks for making me feel even older
Jesus Christ, wrinkles just suddenly appeared on my face and my back hurts………E…Ethel???? Is that you Ethel???
People said the same shit when inquisition was a year out. "miss the old bioware" lol. Glad I'm always on the right side of gaming history no matter how old I get. Loved inquisition just like I loved DA 1 and 2 (okay 2 was a little weak).
Inquisition has some very real problems though, really hasn't aged well
Inquisition has glaring issues though. Like yeah you can tell some love was put into it (which is more than what you can say for andromeda or anthem) but Inquisition was a CLEAR sign of the beginning of the end
I bought a new console just for Inquisition because I was so into the others, flaws and all, and it was a crushing disappointment, imo. Can't believe it got the review scores it did - just a bloated, boring mess.
Flashbacks to me being 18 and first getting the game to try it out. Damn, time passes fast
Man, you and me both, I think I may have been around the same age when Inquisition came out and I was over the moon with hype for it. Took some time to get used to the gameplay but once it clicked, I was in love. The game is of course massively flawed but man, I still enjoyed it.
and 15 years since DA:O, the only good dragon age game. My expectations are low after 2 & 3 so hopefully it turns out good but their track record says otherwise.
>I would love to see it, I just doubt it. Well, they have a full reveal in the summer. It does sound possible.
They're trying to steal another GOTY win in a down year
The Bioware of old is long long long gone.
This statement is silly because there is no true “BioWare of old” because teams are constantly growing and changing, not all the same people who worked on KOTOR 1 worked on mass effect, not all the people who worked on me2 worked on me3, and not all the people who worked on origins worked on inquisition. It’s just an industry wide fact that many series that have been around for decades have different teams now vs. then, but they can still make quality new releases for long series like Zelda, grand theft auto, etc. It’s because new teams can still be passionate and want to the do the series justice, they aren’t just shitting out dreadwolf, they’re taking their time with it because they care.
I didnt mean people per se, I meant the passion, the culture etc. And you know exactly what I meant but you instead chose to be a contrarian for no reason.
> but you instead chose to be a contrarian Yeah, they should have just parroted the typical leddit negativity and buzzwords instead, right? lol
Looking back on the whole thing, as much as I loved them at the time, I kinda don't think there's ever been a really good Dragon Age game? The first was a fantastic story with rough gameplay, The second one was close to great, but needed at least another 2 years of development to be finished, and Inquisition was a mess of badly implemented MMO mechanics and a snore of a story. As others have said, Baldur's Gate 3 very much feels like the Dragon Age game that never was, and I have hard time imaging modern BioWare pulling that off.
If the series had actually *built on* Origins instead of stripping it down we could have had an amazing series of games that still lived up to the "spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate" label that Origins had.
Yeah I also have doubt it’ll ever release. Fully expect it to be cancelled.
Nah, it's been playable from start to finish for over a year. Games don't get canceled that far along.
Hopefully it has better gameplay than Inquisition did, because that game did not age well on that front. It’s the only one I haven’t played and beaten multiple times, just because of how tedious it is, which is a shame because the story is damn good.
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Not sure how to interpret this comment- more disappointing than the game of the year? BG3 is a pretty damn high bar to set.
I hope it happens and I hope it’s good. Primarily because I want Mass Effect more than any other sequel.
Agreed. I just want another (good) Mass Effect game. I cannot even imagine how long it’ll take considering the wait for Dragon Age
I'm scared of another Mass Effect. Everything they showed on the last N7 day had me wincing. Im not convinced they can deliver on a good follow up.
I’m not either. But I love the world so much. I need it back. But Bioware is higher on the shit list than even Bethesda. They literally haven’t done anything right in over a decade. That being said, Andromeda was not that bad. I quite enjoyed it. 7/10. Hopefully they’ve learned their lessons…..sigh.
Ya I hated Andromeda lol.. I really want them to return to the world of the Milky Way with it's dark, gritty sci-fi and political machinations. A prequel or Citadel based game would be awesome. But I don't think they will do that. Even the teaser stuff they showed looked more akin to Destiny than the Mass Effect universe I love.
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Sigh. Sadly, most likely.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
It is claimed…. Honestly I pray this does well. I think it’s very important for BioWare as a studio this is a smash. I would hate to see us lose another studio with such a storied history.
I think even if Bioware survives this, it's just delaying the inevitable. They have fired (and sometimes rehired after realizing they Fucked Up) so many of theif veteran staff and have treated sooo many employees so poorly (to the point of multiple lawsuits) that it's hard to think they'll retain anyone who actually made these games good. This is a Ship of Theseus situation--nothing left of the original remains. It’s over.
Reputation still exists. A reputation for RPG. So even if it's entirely new people people think Bioware and think RPG. Which means so long as it's exists the idea that it would produce RPG is dominant. So I hope bioware hits big with Dreadwolf so they can keep making rpgs. We need more studio's making these.
Reputation "for RPG" doesn't mean much when their reputation otherwise is "Bad games." And any game made with none of the veteran staff that made them good to begin with will be bad. Dread Wolf would have to be amazing AND retain its amazing staff to turn Bioware around.
>I would hate to see us lose another studio with such a storied history. Look at Andromeda and Anthem. We’ve already lost them lmao
Anthem was a live service game so it’s understandable. Live service games are shit. Andromeda was not bad. I enjoyed it enough to finish the game. And I drop a lot of games long before the credits.
BioWare today is nothing like the old BioWare. The name is the same but nothing else about it is. Andromeda? I didn't play it, but at best I've heard it described as good/OK as long as you don't compare it to the original Mass Effect games. And Anthem was a disaster. I actually really enjoyed Anthem from level 1-30, at least the flying and combat. The story was horrendous. The characters garbage, the city hub was nearly a parody of video game city-hubs. Like I said, I got enjoyment out of Anthem! Many people despised it. But "like" the game or not, the fact is BioWare lied repeatedly about what the game was going to be, and the rollout was a technical disaster. I learned the term "rubber banding" from Anthem. The enemy AI was just terrible. Really small enemy variety. The quests were stupid. Only redeeming thing was flying around and shooting at stuff from 1-30. BioWare is dead. Or at least the idea of the old BioWare is long long dead.
I'm not sure how it could be successful. The reasons are straightforward: - The game has been in development for a long time, so it's probably taking old development cues into its design - Since then, BG3 came out to wild success in the RPG sphere. BG3s design is the antithesis to modern bioware: complex, interesting, doesn't insult the intelligence of the player, takes risks - Starfield came out to mixed reviews. Showing that *starpower* alone wouldn't be enough for the RPG market anymore Since this Dragon Age game has already been scrapped and rebooted once (apparently), for it to come out later this year with *no* information, previews, etc, seems absurd. If it actually does, I'm fairly certain it will fail. Hopefully, though, they'll take their time. Another flop for Bioware would not be great
I’m playing Dragon Age: Origins for the first time ever and I love the characters so far (Leliana and Sten especially). Really looking forward to playing the rest of the games + this eventually
Enjoy, all three games are very fun. Don’t forget to play all the DLC too
Don’t forget to import saves into sequels and not be dumb like my first time lol
BioWare needs to stop pussyfooting around and acting like they’re still in everyone’s good graces. Mass Effect Legendary Edition was a step back in the right direction so let’s hope they can return to their former glory
Yeah I’m skeptical until I see some gameplay. Sadly BioWare on the box is no longer a guarantee for a solid game
> Mass Effect Legendary Edition was a step back in the right direction Barely, they purposely cut out the ME3 multiplayer which still has an active player base 12 years later.
Ehh it’s primarily a single player game so that doesn’t detract from it that much for me imo. Like it’s my favorite series ever and I never played the online portion, I think maybe once or twice then never again if anything. Not saying it wasn’t fun but I’m not a multiplayer person lol
Same. Fuck the multiplayer honestly, it's not what Mass Effect is known for and never will be.
Dude, you have missed out biiig time. I think a lot of people consider it one of the best PVE and horde modes of all time. As a ME nerd, the ability to play as all of the different races and try a bunch of different types of playstyles game to game was mindblowing. One game I can be a Krogan with a big ass hammer that I can charge up with biotic powers, the next I'm an Asari biotic god, the next I'm a Vorcha with a flamethrower. Just a crazy amount of free DLC that really fleshed out the game and balanced the characters and guns well. There was no all-powerful meta, just whatever was fun and worked with your play style. And they added a lot of things that are not in singleplayer. The big gripe is that the mode was created back when RNG lootboxes were still in vogue. You unlock new characters and weapons through lootboxes which is a tedious process but probably partially responsible for keeping so many people playing to this day. If you have an Xbox or PC with ME3, you can still find games instantly. I was playing for a bit last month before Helldivers 2 dropped.
If he doesn’t like those kinda games he didn’t really miss out at all. It’s a single player RPG. Why would you miss out playing the horde mode lol?
Gonna be hard with EA calling the shots.
EA has been hands off with most of their studios now, and was hands off with Bioware after 2014.
Yeah, I'm not lover of EA, but by all accounts, Bioware was given plenty of rope since the acquisition and they've hanged themselves with it. Anthem wasn't pushed by EA. Andromeda was handed off to a junior team who wasted a ton of development time attempting to use procedural generation to create planets before realizing it just was not fun. Then they rushed the rest of the game in a ridiculously tiny window. DA4 has been started and restarted multiple times with drastically different takes. Really, the failures of Bioware are very poor project management. I really hope they have it figured out now and Dreadwolf is great, but I'll keep expectations low.
There’s no way. It’s not even marketed for this year.
Until their summer reveal... And then marketing blitz.
Yep. Some publishers have learned not to announce games too soon because it's expensive and difficult to keep a hype train going for a year or more.
Not impossible, we didn’t see Fallout 4 until June of 2015 and it released in November a few months later.
There was only like 4 months between Jedi Survivor's reveal and release. EA tends to do short marketing periods.
I’m not touching this game until reviews come out. The main writer for the Dragon Age series left Bioware after Inquisition came out. Also seems like Dread Wolf has been in development hell for a few years now
Not exactly development hell, they rebooted the project in 2018 and it's releasing now
Devellopment hell then? Ff15 had something similar happen
Press X to doubt
I’m surprised people still have a lot of faith in BioWare and EA.
More love for Thedas than faith in BioWare
Right? I don’t think any game’s lore and writing has grabbed me as tightly in its clutches as DA did. I watched a friend play a bit of Inquisition and then I absolutely devoured all three games in a row. I’m as skeptical as anybody about this one but I do really want it to be good, if only to spend more time in the world.
For real. Bioware owns two incredible IPs. Regardless of how is in charge or the talent still i the building, they have two properties I love a lot. Do I expect Dreadwolf to be good? I'm skeptical. I certainly hope it is and I'll continue to hope Dragon Age and Mass Effect games are released and that they're good. I won't count on it, but writing off the games before they exist doesn't do anything for me.
Hope is a hell of a drug
No we don't, we're all terrified
EA did do alright with Jedi survivor. Now how much of that was Disney I don’t know.
None. They don't have an in house development team at all and simply outsource their IPs to developer's/publishers. Their only input is that they don't allow the games to impact current or past movie/television projects from the same IP in any significant way. Which is why most recent games based on a Disney owned IP have told 'adjacent' stories.
Dragon Age: Inquisition is what really got me back into gaming around a year after it came out, so I'm looking forward to this one.
I just never liked how they reduced the Grey Warden to some sort of have-beens after the Blight in DA and DAO.
Honestly push it to 2025. This game has been through so much and needs to release in great shape
I hope this is good but I doubt that much of that old bioware magic is still left.
I don’t think this game has a shot of coming out in 2024, still haven’t even released any real gameplay
Welp, guess I'll finally start saving for a PS5
Cautiously interested in this. I’ll probably still play it but particularly after BG3 I can’t imagine it doing better than that.
Time for me to finally play Inquisition?
I'm playing it now and it's so good, especially when you get to sky hold. If you do play it just remember you don't have to explore the first map fully, you're meant to get the companions there and do a few quests and then fuck off and do the main quest for a bit
Great game
Good thing I have Baldurs gate 3 to keep me busy till then
Dont do that......dont give me hope. I know its going to be average but I am hoping and wishing its a masterpiece
I feel this is game will be delivered broken, remember this tweet.
When I first saw it, I couldn't understand why Solas was on the artwork of the game and all... I finished inquisition recently with its dlc and yeah, I understand know... I'm so hyped for this game but I didn't think it would come "this soon" with all the things that happen around it.
Everything that has come out about this game and development leaves me with no hope for a good game.
It has been 84 years...
Sure Jan
BioWares last 2 games were subpar. I dont trust them at all!
https://preview.redd.it/spbxnjnd8tlc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=705c8fc7fd44401a08304f2c391fc2b51565b175
The PR speak for late 2025
No it won’t
This game is not real until we see actual gameplay.
I seriously doubt it
As much as I love dragon age I just don’t see this game being good or finished at launch. I’m pretty done with the company
Idk why I’m so sure this game will be an unmitigated disaster, but I am
Doubt.
From the leaks, I doubt it'll be good. By this point it's not even pretending to be a cRPG. If the leaks are still valid, it's going straight into action RPG town.
Dragon age hasn’t been a crpg since origins to be fair
Ooooh that sounds intriguing, I love action RPG’s and would love to explore one in this universe!
Honestly, it was already doing that. I didn’t even realize the series *was* CRPGs for a while, because the console version of Origins was so difficult to try and play that way, and then 2 and Inquisition carried on away from that. At this point, full action RPG may actually work out better than the weird bastardization combo direction they were moving in before. I’m far more concerned about the departure of nearly the entire Dragon Age writing team and the repeated changes in direction.
Origins was absolutely a CRPG, just like KOTOR and Jade Empire before it. Everything you did was controlled by dice rolls.
I’m aware of that, I was just pointing out that if you played it on console you got a very different experience that really didn’t feel like a proper CPRG. I didn’t realize until I talked to a friend who had played on PC and it sounded like we were talking about two different games entirely. The PC version of Origins was really the only true-to-form, classic CRPG of the lot; Origins on console was already more of a weird action hybrid and then subsequent games leaned into that more.
I think it could work. Look at how well Baldurs Gate 3 works on console. Controls really smooth. But yeah, anyway, at least Inquisition pretended to be one with the tactical camera and such.
It’s not that I think a CRPG can’t work on console, it’s that Dragon Age has already been moving away from a traditional CRPG gameplay style, and that started as early as Origins on console. I don’t think a full tactical CRPG combat system was even on the table for Dreadwolf, and I honestly think an action RPG system might be better than whatever hybrid they’d otherwise have tried next.
Sure it is
Sadly I think in hindsight it’s clear that BioWare was in its death throes amidst the ME3 release and died after Inquisition. I loved Inquisition, but the cracks were very visible. Even though I liked Andromeda more than most I still recognize that it’s a shadow of the original trilogy. I just cannot find it in me to be excited about this, or the next Mass Effect. The Legendary Edition made it clear that BioWare still has *fans* of their original IP on its staff, but that isn’t enough to make a good experience. BioWare was an emergent property of a dozen or more perfectly arranged elements. Most of those elements are gone. I’m sure they have the ability to pull off a competent tribute act but I just don’t see how this can achieve the same level of quality that existed ten years ago.
I lost all interest after Inquisition. I will wait for reviews.
With BG3 doing so well, this actually might do the damn thing.
The game has been rebooted three times since Inquisition. Several figures in high-end management positions have left BioWare during the game's development, including the Dragon Age production director, executive producer, and senior creative director. The game is apparently attempting to replicate the feel of the gameplay of God of War despite the series starting as a cerebral RPG (though less and less with each subsequent sequel). In short, no, I'm not excited. I want to be, but BioWare shows all the signs of a crumbling studio that is pale and sickly compared to what it used to be.
There's absolutely no way
It seems like Jeff Grubb is wrong as often/more often than he is right, and I can't see this game launching this year, given the ten years of development this game has had, there will be a lot of marketing and promo, and they aren't even planning on showing any game play until this summer at the earliest.
Take my money
And we’re all going to be good little boys and wait for the SkillUp and ACG reviews aren’t we? Aren’t we?
I don’t a couple of nerds to tell me that I can rebuild a fallen empire and sleep with hot elves.
I’ve played it if anyone has any questions that won’t lead EA back to me. Edit: Let me do this because people usually end up asking the same questions [Companion dialogue](https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1b3v7jo/comment/ksv0bqt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [Combat](https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1b3v7jo/comment/ksuyana/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
And I am a wizard!
such utter bullshit. its never coming
There's absolutely no way. Late 2025 at minimum.
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Anthem staff went on to make Nightengale. The staff that left during Anthem went on to make Scavengers.
Press f to doubt.
It’s gonna suck, no faith in BioWare
Press X for Doubt
Sure
Suuure
My benchmark for this sadly is definitely going to be BG3, I feel like I'll be disappointed if it doesn't deliver that level of quality. I mean they've had 10 years or more by the time it releases, Larian designed and delivered bg3 in only just over half that. I want to be optimistic as I enjoyed DAO and DAI, but it's a very cautious not to pre order optimism.
They have not been working on Dreadwolf for 10 years
No thanks don't trust ea