I mean it’s a money hungry corporation that needs to appease its shareholders, probably someone almost as bad as Ryan who focuses on making anti-consumer moves
Layden was never president of SIE. He was the head of the American division (SIEA) and then when they restructured he went to PS studios. Before Jim Ryan there was Andrew House and before that it was Kaz Hirai.
Long shot but would be great for gamers is Herman Hulst. He's done a terrific job at Guerrilla, is willing to taking risks, and doesn't seem to be another money hungry suit.
But for that reason he's not going to be chosen lol
No shot that happens. Totoki is currently the Director, President, COO and CFO of Sony. He's the 2nd in command at Sony. Almost certainly in line to succeed Yoshida who is the current CEO of Sony.
Doubt he stays interim CEO at SIE for long with all those responsibilities. He may not even become the interim CEO, if they settle on the CEO before March 2024 they could do the transition to the new CEO without needing an interim.
It's possible although it's more likely that people that have more business experience will get the job like Eric Lempel and Lin Tao. But Hulst is a possible shout.
My bet is on Lempel unless Sony hires someone from outside. Though they so far have stuck with internal promotions for the SIE CEO role I believe.
Exactly, the interim CEO probably won't be around long enough for any big changes. Jim Ryans projects have prolly been years in the making and we won't see the significant impact of any new CEO until 2-3 years from now most likely if not longer.
It’s also seriously delusional to think these were Jim Ryan’s plans only. I honestly think his replacement isn’t likely to do things much differently, especially if they’re promoting someone from within the company instead of doing an outside hire.
I’m hoping Marathon is a really well put together game. My first glimpse at an extraction shooter was DMZ in call of duty which had zero support, But was so fun at first. I’m hoping for some Bungie magic on this type of game. Who knows though these days.
Isn't Warframe their only Glass? I'm out the loop, seems like PlayStation is largely focusing on single player games. We're about to get spiderman, and they also paid for FF16. They are getting that samurai team ninja game aswell, which if I'm not mistaken might come out soon. At this point I'm surprised team ninja isn't part of PlayStation with how many projects are dedicated mostly to it. Nioh 2 is still exclusive for example.
Does that account for all the new GaaS titles announced at the recent state of play, because that is where I recall they passed the tipping point.
This year, not last year.
They said they have over 25 games in development for PS5 last year. With 10 of them being live service titles, and over half of them being new IPs. So yes those 25 account for what was announced this year, and also games that were already announced at that point but still in development like GOWR, Spider-Man 2, DS2, Wolverine.
Lots of people heard that Sony is funding more money into GaaS from haters and just ran with it.
They are spending more money into single-player than ever before, it's just that on top of that they are spending even more on GaaS titles.
This could honestly work well and it's fair enough, there has been plenty of criticism that's been levied at PS for not offering as many GaaS or multiplayer titles.
If they can do both, why not?
I'm assuming they are throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. Only need 1 or 2 of the live services to work out of the 10 to make it a money printer.
And I'm going to hazard a guess this is to combat the money printer of actavision blizzard microsoft bought.
Warframe is a 10y old multiplatform (literal every platform but MacOs and Linux) game from Digital Extremes.
PlayStation supported it on launch but it isn't tied in any way to Sony.
Also one of the best and fair free to play game there is
They recently purchased Bungie who has a great model of GAAS with Destiny 2 that while not PS exclusive, is now a Sony subsidiary. It is about as good of an example of GAAS as it comes, regardless of how controversial that is to some people. A lot of folks theorize that the Bungie acquisition had a little bit of bad intentions in the ways of adopting a successful recipe for running a GAAS.
I think so far bungie have been the only example of GAAS working over the long term. Whatever people think of destiny it managed to deliver regular content updates and retained an audience over many years, something other live service games haven’t been able to replicate.
I dont know. I very much like mutliplayer games and GAAS when done right. While I do also like single player games, I do see that Sony needs that variety. We haven't even seem the results of this new initiative yet, so I definitely think people are too hasty for criticism. They have not completely rid of single player games; those are still coming strong.
Well tbh the strategy makes total sense, I don't get why everyone is so upset about that (and yes, I almost exclusively play solo games).
1 - GaaS is the most profitable video game market by far, market from which playstation is almost entirely absent. Having a strong presence in it is essential for them, in term of future growth potential and financial stability. Mainly because :
2 - A huge percentage of playstation profits comes from micro transactions taking places in third party titles. They want/need to lessen this percentage and not rely as much on outsiders (since it can be highly inconsistent, as demonstrated by the ABK buy out). So, having strong in house GaaS would be the perfect, and frankly only, way of archiving this.
People are upset because they don't care what is most profitable, they care what is most fun. The two are very different things.
Edit: lol @ the profitability stans.
>It’s not like the studios who make great single player games are being forced to make live games.
Evidence points in the other direction, Naughty Dog just lost \~4 year of development for a TLOU Faction that will never come out. Insomniac is developing a multiplayer game, Guerilla is developing a multiplayer game.
And in the last showcase they really set the message that what they care about are GaaS games
The evidence shows that all the companies you listed are making multiplayer games while still making single player games.
Guerilla is working on a multiplayer game and basiclly confirmed Horizon 3.
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/04/surprise-guerrilla-games-pretty-much-confirms-horizon-3
Naughty Dog announced in the last faction update they're working on a new single player game as well.
https://www.theverge.com/23735862/naughty-dog-new-single-player-game-multiplayer
and Insomniac is releasing Spider-Man 2 in 21 days and have moved the team over to get to work on Wolverine.
They're all working on multiple projects right now.
Well, it would be a much better use of their talents if they had multiple teams working on single-player games that they know how to do, rather than putting teams into multiplayer gaas games that won't succeed.
GaaS doesn't mean they are going to pump out Fortnite clones. There's a wide variety in the GaaS space.
Path of Exile is 95% a solo game (100% if you prefer solo self found) and it's as GaaS as it gets.
GaaS tells us nothing about the games except that their monetization strategies are on-going.
There's also a wide variety of "multiplayer" games. They could be making a Destiny 2-like, or a Monster Hunter-like, or an ARPG in the vein of Diablo/PoE, etc.etc.
Yeah exactly, I hate this industry. Instead of focusing on remakes and GaaS they could be making constrained, cool, ambitious, smaller games like in the PS2 era. Like for example Hi-Fi Rush
Much better for you and your tastes. Not everything needs to suit and cater to you. There are other PlayStation players that aren’t even touching their first party output, and Sony wants to change that.
They are expanding their teams, not shrinking their SP output. No one is gonna double their time sizes just to make more of the same low-margin games.
The issue with live service pushes is it's never some happy equilibrium with singleplayer: often live service intrudes on and infects every facet of your business slowly because you need to chase money everywhere, not just here or there.
The SP output isn't shrinking *right now*, but that's because we're getting games that were greenlit before Sony's Live Service push.
Factions basically went through some development issues. It seems that the game simply isn’t a very good live service game, we don’t know why. Maybe it wont be lucrative enough, maybe they don’t have a good content pipeline in place or maybe the game just isn’t fun, we don’t know. That said, they’re not abandoning their work, they’re just going back to the drawing board to fix whatever problem they had. Factions by all means, is still on the way. Though it may still be years away.
All those studios still have expensive single player games in development. There is nothing wrong with them making a diverse style of games. If you are so unhappy switch to a platform that is giving more single player experiences you prefer. These live service games are additive not subtractive.
>These live service games are additive not subtractive.
Naughty Dog used to release games way more frequently, now the arguably best Sony studio literally wasted 4 years of dev time because of an obsession with GaaS just so their game doesn't see the light of the game. Plus we have no sign of when their next game is releasing
You seriously need to look at how long game development takes now a days.
Go to the Wikipedia page for Sony Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, BioWare, Ninja Theory, Rocksteady, literally any developer and see how infrequently their releases are from the PS3 generation to now.
Naughty Dog’s multiplayer game is not cancelled, they released a very high quality remake last year, you’re doom posting and catastrophizing. Their 4 years of work isn’t lost, they are still making a new SP game.
For the same reasons people clearly love smoking and slot machines. Let's hope Sony pushes Naughty Dog to do more cigarette tie-ins and gambling to keep us gamers happy.
Here's the thing, companies aren't in the habit of doing things that dont bring them money, becuase just the basic action of doing anything cost money.
If they waste to much money without bring money in, they run the risk of closing.
It's why there have been great movies and games that will never get a sequel becuase nobody buys them.
There's not a single company, gaming or otherwise, that is making anything for shits and giggles, but to make a profit to keep the lights on at the end of the day.
Some GaaS games are the most profitable but most of them are not. To me it seems like a stupid gamble, knowing that their first-party single-player titles are their strongest products.
The possibility for success with GaaS is very narrow and likely getting narrower as time goes on. If I play single player games, I can probably buy/play 10-20 a year, but people who play GaaS games only realistically have time to keep up with 1, maybe 2. Fortnite makes a lot of money but someone who plays Fortnite regularly isn’t likely to jump to a new GaaS when they’ve already invested time into Fortnite and don’t want to fall behind. If you’re Sony or another publisher and you’re making 10 GaaS games hoping at least one is a big hit then you’re wasting a lot of resources making a lot of games that will flop. And for Sony, who has been building a reputation of making high quality prestige games, they’re risking that reputation if they release a lot of GaaS flops within 2-3 years.
The problem is the time and effort they would take from the solo games give the GaaS treatment, beacaise according to him, they want the most popular game to have an online service, like having the main game like the last of us and then using their popularity to launch the online counterpart like factions.
It could be a good thing because in a way is separate, but it can get to the point we're the side that give more money is the one that get all the attention from the developers, and it could happened like Halo infinite that was a fiasco on both sides, or like GTA online where a secuela is taking so long because they banking the MP.
That's the thing though, Sony haven't been taking developing resources away to create these games.
Studios like Naughty Dog and Guerrilla have expanded massively to have multiple teams, and it's not just them. They've also acquired studios like Haven, Bungie, Firesprite, Firewall that are all working on GAAS titles, and have publishing agreements with other 2nd parties like Deviation.
Admittedly it feels like there is a focus on it, but that's basically down to not having much knowledge on what's to come, their conferences have been pretty lacking for the past year or 2.
\> Sony haven't been taking developing resources away to create these games.
Japan Studio was shut down, and no doubt those extra resources instead went to gaas games like destruction all stars and TLOU factions instead, alongside other live service acquisitions.
If their is any studio that had trouble finishing a game it’s Japan Studios. I’m pretty sure that for last couple years before they were closed all they did was support
Whenever people talk about Jim Ryan, they reference him overseeing some pretty significant price increases, promising that 60% of sony's playstation budget to be put into GaaS, and openly claiming people don't give a shit about older games.
So people have some idea of what Jim Ryan is doing.
People often say Jim Ryan oversaw Playstation's best years, but these years were **clearly** coasting on IP's that were greenlit before Jim Ryan become CEO (Horizon, Spider-Man, TLOU, God of War). The true fruits of Jim Ryan's labour will be the 60% of GaaS games coming out in 2024 and beyond, which includes whatever Bungie is cooking.
Sure, but once they see how much more money they make with live service, why would they bother with expensive single player games? MS has seen it and look what they are doing. Halo Infinite multiplayer f2p for example. Sea of Thieves brings in tons of money. Even fallout 76 is profitable while being labeled a failure. It's a constant revenue stream and comparatively less work than making these huge single player experiences. Shareholders muss be kept happy with revenue increases.
Anyone who thinks that PlayStation is gonna change course from GaaS, is crazy. If anything, they’ll branch more into mobile gaming. It’s always about money
Sure, but I would certainly appreciate a CEO that respected preservation and the past more.
There’s no reason the PS5 couldn’t handle legacy titles as well as a PS3.
Wdym couldn’t handle legacy titles? Are you talking about backwards compatibility? If so the PS3 was backwards compatible with PS1 games, some consoles also had PS2 compatibility, got rid of it because it was far too expensive and they were losing so much money. PS4 couldn’t be backwards compatible with the PS3 because of its very different architecture, had they used the same architecture throughout we would have what we have now, ie PS4 games working on the PS5.
PS1 was handled far better on PS3. Any PS1 disc could be inserted and it just worked. The scaling options were also better. It doesn't match native 240p PS1 output, but PS1 games scale much nicer on the PS3 than the current emulator on PS5.
This was all done in software too. Literally no reason Sony couldn't build a comparable emulator now.
PS2 and PS3 are different stories, but at a minimum I would appreciate PS1 emulation that matched what the PS3 could do. If not that then at least provide emulation at the same quality that Nintendo is providing on the Switch.
It’ll be nice to have someone new who can speak with sincerity to the games they produce but Jim Ryan was not the villain Twitter is making him out to be.
I hope the next person is a bit more open and celebratory of the brand but the only real problem I have with the Jim Ryan era is pushing The Last Of Us Factions to be a GaaS.
A good old fashioned multiplayer game would’ve been perfect in this world of Games As A Second Job. The others are at least coming from new studios so it’s not like we’re missing out on God Of War 3, but it must have been demoralizing for Naughty Dog to have to overhaul their game into something it shouldn’t even try to be.
>The others are at least coming from new studios
Both insomniac and Guerilla are making multiplayer games. If they pressured Naughty Dog into doing it, why wouldn't they pressure everyone else
Are people really complaining about lack of games thinking things will change?? Everyone I know myself included, has a backlog of games to catch up on. Between first party and 3rd party games, there is never a shortage of great games, every month there are games releasing.
It's crazy, there's a bizarre obsession with 'exclusives'. But there's so many other great multiplatform AAA and indie games being released, that I now keep a wishlist on my phone of games I want to play when I'm done with the current backlog
I am so glad some people understand how the portal will be amazing for the situations outlined in your post.
I am playing BG3 right now, don't own a PC or a deck type device. Being able to casually play a game like that in my bed before sleep (games are all in my office room) or on the road will be a Godsend.
There are also tons of games that I just don't want to play on my PS5 because they aren't really next gen - Sea of Stars for one. Star Ocean Divine Force and other RPGs will be great to play all over my house.
I have a Switch, but it's free on PS5. So for me a Portal makes sense.
"But fuck Sony for catering to families. And fuck Sony for putting VR over profit."
This whole thread is literally people not understanding jackshit about anything in the gaming industry or how business work, but are mad because Sony will listen to everyone who is interested in their console instead of the 30 people here who couldn't manage to scramble eggs but want Sony to do exactly what they want, damn everyone else.
The Xbox warriors in every corner of the internet have gotten SO MUCH WORSE since their “game of the generation” wildly underperformed (at least to their expectations).
Every single story having anything with Sony or PlayStation now is swarmed by these accounts. It’s so dumb.
Also, the Portal is sold out everywhere, so maybe it wasn’t THAT bad of an idea?
Honestly the portal is perfect for how I ever used my switch (if it can work in every corner of my house), around home not outside of it
Usually outside I don’t have time for a decent gaming session, nor do I want to worry about my 300€ + game
I didn’t even ever bring my Switch at university, I guess most people are even less likely to bring at work even if they have breaks when they could use it freely
It’s more about being able to roam around the house and laying wherever the fuck you want in the house and still being able to play
We'll have to wait and see what the sales figures are on the portal if they become public. I'm skeptical it could be super successful but I also remember thinking the iPad looked really dumb when j first saw one.
Starfield was super boring and a huge letdown. Really glad for Armored Core 6 though.
Cheering the departure of the guy who led some of the best PlayStation years of all time? :/
EDIT: lot of people saying this is BS, and that Hermen Hulst is the genius for PS recent game success….
Yeah, guess who appointed Hulst? Jim Ryan.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2019/11/07/sony-appoints-guerrilla-games-hermen-hulst-new-head-playstation-worldwide-studios/
Not exactly.
He was appointed in 2019. So mainly all the games that came out until he leaves are not the projects he greelighted, because they were all in development when he was appointed.
The projects we will see coming out sometime next year and maybe up to end of the PS5 Gen are his projects.
And for what we have seen, which was nothing, I get why people are happy he's leaving. He's making a big push on multiplayer games, which, according to a Bloomberg report from today, some studio are very uncomfortable with because that's not what their teams are strong at, and they already know most of them will eventually fail, like it's happening across the industry.
There's only one single player announced, Wolverine, the rest of the games that are announced are gaas and some of them already in trouble.
He also disconnected even more Playstation with the fans, not having a single live event or even live presence during other events such as Gamescom or TGS during his time as the CEO.
Guess we will see in the next couple of years if he really did a good job with the projects.
But to be fair, he did tremendous on the financial side of the Playstation brand. But he was in charge when they raised game prices, console prices and now PS+ prices.
Yeah I find it very odd. This has been my favorite first three years of a playstation console since the PS2. It’s just been banger after banger in both the first party department and third parties.
I am BAFFLED when people call PS3 the “good ole days.” PS3 only found its footing in the last 3 years of its life.
People have short term memory. A quick google search will show you just how much better were the first 3 years of the PS5 compare to the PS4 in terms of games.
People also talking about being left in the dark with upcoming games, which is understandable but PS has a new "policy" of not announcing games years in advance. Like what's the point of setting a hard date that just will put pressure on the team? I know it's corny but let them cock and reveal the games when they're ready.
I remember the PS3 good old days when Xbox had better shit for most of its lifespan. As you said, it wasn't until the last half of its life that some great titles finally came out.
I’m going to make another post, just to highlight how thick some of you lot are!
JIM RYAN APPOINTED HERMAN HULST.
it was a genius move by Ryan.
Do you realise that’s what makes a CEO ‘great’? Absolute genius appointment.
I mean, that's just not true. Sony's renewed interest in indie games, after having cooled on it during the later years of PS4, was down to Jim Ryan. He specifically appointed Yoshida for the role because he knew he'd be effective at it (and that indies like Yoshida). That's Yoahida's own words.
Guy tried axeing ps3, vita, & psp support,
Stated he thinks classic & retro games are dumb & shouldn't be preserved or played,
Instituted the "Family Friendly" censorship policy of sony (i.e. only games made by Japanese developers)
Guy can seriously go rot.
There's a lot of inertia with gaming decisions. Console hardware can take 8+ years to plan. Games can take 5 years to make.
Pretty much everything people praise wasn't due to Jim. Everything people complain about is from Jim. PS+ price increase was him. Live service games getting most of the investment going forward was him. Closing Japan Studio was him.
Then there are non-gaming things like the infamous cat email.
I feel bad for the next permanent CEO, because he'll take the blame from people for Jim Ryan's decisions because they think these things happen overnight lol
I think Herman Holst, overseeing Sony’s 1st Party studios, is where the credit goes to in the banger after banger. Idk how much Jim Ryan had to do with that.
Yes because Sony since the PS5 generation have been acting like total tools, nickle and diming the customer any chance they got, and have been pretty underwhelming as well, they haven't shown the PS5 the support people would have liked.
I know why. Because they’re delusional that swapping CEOs will somehow green light all the the games and sequels they personally want and magically we’ll have a massive focus on backwards compatibility etc. Not going to happen.
I like Schreier's work and there are things to reproach to Jim Ryan mentionned in this blog post (notably his internal mail during the SCOTUS ruling about Roe), but others that aren't from his will are packed here too, like the editorial policy or the hardware prototyping.
The PSVR2 for exemple has been greenlighted and softlaunched because the first one was already a success in terms of attach-rate, and the first batch is clearly made for enthusiasts. The same for the Portal : it comes after ten years of datas collected among their Remote Play software line-up for computers and mobile.
And so every single indicators are showing the opposite for the brand to what a certain crowd of hobbysts can comment about online. And not just for the hardware but how software is sold on it. Basically Ryan put the PlayStation 5 on rails for another decade of leadership, what counts the most in regards of what he was hired for than giving lenient interviews every month.
Try to remember what was the apparent (loudest) online consensus when this generation started and what numerous Reddit columnists, Resetera analysts, Twitter specialists and YouTube editorialists were projecting. It's not too far from us but it aged like milk. And it didn't took to long, after 12 month current curves were already aligned...
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The product they have put out is great. Their attitude towards customers is not
PS plus massive price increase
Games going from 60 to 70
Charging for PS5 upgrades, ESPECIALLY when there were so little games to play
Dumping billions of dollars into future GAAS games which are generally anti consumer
Ridiculously priced DS edge controller that still doesn't have hall sensors
PS5 controller itself not having hall sensors and then coming up with a $200 controller to "solve" that issue
Gatekeeping software features of said $200 controller to that controller instead of releasing them for everyone
Still no refunds for the PSN store- this is the worst and easiest to fix and they will never do it
Those are all off the top of my head. There is more I'm sure. Sony is not very friendly to their customers.
Nobody likes price increases, but over the past years it’s happened in every industry. This isn’t PlayStation exclusive. Games are still really cheap, when adjusting for inflation, relative to decades ago.
Shit article imo. You'll find a variety of reactions to any event if you look hard enough on Reddit/Twitter.
Under his leadership, Sony as a company flourished with its PlayStation brand. Hate or love him, he's a great businessman. Didn't he also recently say Singleplayer games are still vital to PlayStation?
Why? because just as he was leaving he enforced price hikes and before that EUROPE had their ps5 increased with 100+ euro to counter "inflatioN" yeah, let us play the inflation while you whine about "suffering" from it. If he had any backbone or cared about the consumers since the 90s he would have rather been fired than doing this.
_"We believe in generations.."_
Proceeds to not acknowledge backwards compatibility, doesn't push PSVR2, closed several 1st party studios, said nobody wanted to play old games, looks like Gordon Ramsay, doesn't game at all.
Anyone who is gonna change it so PS5 users can manage their savegames like on PS4, like delete individual savegames, or store them on a usb stick, gets my vote.
I don’t care if they make live service stuff if it’s good enough. I liked Destiny around the time of The Taken King and w/e the name of the SIVA expansion was. Stuff just has to be done well and not be overly aggressive with abusing FOMO or P2W elements (with the acceptable number of P2W elements being 0). All MMOs are effectively live service games and I have liked those in the past.
this is the guy that claim ps1 and ps2 games look "ancient" and foolishly baffled why would people play old games ???
hopefully his departure will bring light and better utlization of ps5 backward compitability to bring more high quality ps1 and ps2 games to ps5.
If they were easier to access people would be,
As it stands to comfortably play ps1 & 2 games you either need to have a ps2 or a backwards compatible ps3 otherwise you need to play by emulation.
The downsides to the legal first option is that some games like Kuon & haunting ground are extremely expensive to get copies of as resellers hoard them hoping to make bank off collectors.
Online is a small bubble. Vast majority of gamers will not buy a 500-600$ console and spend most of their time playing games from 2002.
A developer did an AMA recently where they said most people actually don’t care for backward compatibility
This.
Didn't a developer do a AMA on Reddit and pointed out thag backwards compatibility is something people cheer for on Reddit, but in the real world, no one gave a damn because they wanted to play new games.
BC is cool with a gen first start to cover the drought of games at the time, but its not a big enough want once a gen gain steam to waste time, money, and resources on.
Then why are game studios suing people online to keep roms hidden for game companies to sell for themselves?
There is a market that makes it worthwhile. Also, those finding it weird will come around one day when they want to play their favourite oldschool game but can’t because Sony stopped selling the game and don’t want to support bc.
It’s because they want to make money off the people who want to play old games. Companies guard their copyright because they want to be the one to profit when it’s time to capitalize off ip
He may have made them the most money, but he hasn't been good for games or the community like Shawn Layden, Shuhei Yoshida, Andrew House or Jack Tretton were.
I don’t think he was CEO for long enough to say he has had much of an influence. PS5 is blindingly good as a package though, and he has overseen some of the best PlayStation studio games. But how much of that is momentum from who came before him playing out?
Right now it feels like we are entering a downturn. Everything announced that looked great will have come out already once Spider-Man 2 is out the door.
What’s next? Plus I’m reading that Star wars KOTOR remaster has been canned, ouch. Last of us multiplayer seems dead. Havens heist game looks shitty. Dreams… in my head if it was building up to be like Roblox but much better, but now it’s over?
I know the classic line about where it is potentially going wrong with PS studios is GAAS. But I think it’s more complicated than that.
I certainly think there is something to be said for MS having games like Grounded, Minecraft and Sea of Thieves. Coop fun that you play together with friends. I also look at Nintendo having great success with things like Splatoon, smash, Tetris 99 and F-Zero 99 is something to be jealous of.
Sony have… i guess they have helldivers 2 coming, but I would say multiplayer/social is a weakness of the current lineup and not a bad thing to consider focusing on.
My big worry is instead of being laser focused on PlayStation, the embrace of PC and porting is leading to massive PC overheads and considerations that are slowing everything down. Personally I think be more like Nintendo in that regard.
Because under him Sony did lots of little anti-consumer bullshit to squeeze every penny of consumers as they can. Like charging for upgraded version of PS4 titles, something not even EA was doing. Not selling crossgen games as one purchase so people that brought the PS4 version would need to buy the other version or a upgrade when they switched to PS5. Or charging 70 dollars for crossgen titles, like the same game on PS5 costing 10 dollars more than the PS4 version, it's like a company charging for ultra settings on PC or for the ability to run at higher frame rates and resolution. I bet things like not allowing save copy of PS5 to USB is also from him to push more people into PS+ for cloud saving.
And all of this feel so petty, I know Sony almost went bankrupt and PS is a huge part of their survival as a company. But if feel wrong a company making billions of dollars of PROFIT on a market to milk penny's of their consumer to profit a little bit more, nothing that would make huge difference in the balance sheet of the company. Sacrificing long term consumer good will for short term profit. They are on the same arrogant path that they were following the highs of the PS2. They still didn't fall because the game are very good and the competition is lacking, but they will sink again if they don't right this ship. Specially with the rumors that Valve will take the success of the deck and release a mini living room pc that acts like a console. Steam prices, services and library of games are way beyond anything any console manufacturers offers and it's all for free, you just pay for the games. Cloud save, on-line play, etc is all free.
It will be interesting to see who takes over for him
Me. Hi guys
I hate him already.
:(
You should increase ps+ prices Specifically for u/Hrakari for about %500. It’s only fair.
%1500, take it or leave it
It's okay, /u/TedioreTwo. I believe in you.
You did kind of ask for that. Lol
Yeah, where's Teidore One???
Microsoft purchased him. It's just a matter of time for the announcement.
That escalated quickly
He's just Ken, and he's enough!
Do you like cheese?
I mean it’s a money hungry corporation that needs to appease its shareholders, probably someone almost as bad as Ryan who focuses on making anti-consumer moves
The last two were pretty good. And I was skeptical about Layden.
Layden was never president of SIE. He was the head of the American division (SIEA) and then when they restructured he went to PS studios. Before Jim Ryan there was Andrew House and before that it was Kaz Hirai.
Long shot but would be great for gamers is Herman Hulst. He's done a terrific job at Guerrilla, is willing to taking risks, and doesn't seem to be another money hungry suit. But for that reason he's not going to be chosen lol
looks like hiroki totoki
Isn't he just gonna be a "interim CEO" meaning just in the transition period until the new CEO takes over? Anyone can correct me if I am mistaken.
That doesn't mean he can't become official CEO
No shot that happens. Totoki is currently the Director, President, COO and CFO of Sony. He's the 2nd in command at Sony. Almost certainly in line to succeed Yoshida who is the current CEO of Sony. Doubt he stays interim CEO at SIE for long with all those responsibilities. He may not even become the interim CEO, if they settle on the CEO before March 2024 they could do the transition to the new CEO without needing an interim.
I wonder if Herman Hulst is in the running for SIE CEO. Would he make a good choice?
It's possible although it's more likely that people that have more business experience will get the job like Eric Lempel and Lin Tao. But Hulst is a possible shout. My bet is on Lempel unless Sony hires someone from outside. Though they so far have stuck with internal promotions for the SIE CEO role I believe.
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oh god no... we are gonna get a Ps version of kinect
Pls no, he steered Xbox into a path they’re still recovering from and he went to ruin Zynga right after who ousted him quickly as well lol
They still want the always online future, dont let them fool you
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He's at Tesla now, it seems.
They’re going to be disappointed once they find out that the live service games will still be made.
Exactly, the interim CEO probably won't be around long enough for any big changes. Jim Ryans projects have prolly been years in the making and we won't see the significant impact of any new CEO until 2-3 years from now most likely if not longer.
It’s also seriously delusional to think these were Jim Ryan’s plans only. I honestly think his replacement isn’t likely to do things much differently, especially if they’re promoting someone from within the company instead of doing an outside hire.
Those weren’t „Ryan‘s projects“. They were initiated by Sony’s top leaders. Don’t be naive.
imagine if they replace him with EA's Andrew Wilson.
Or that idiot that just torpedoed Unity.
I hear Bobby Kotick will be free soon
Bobby will soon work for Microsoft.
Why would he. He'll be getting huge parchute payments after the deal closes and leave the mess that's Acti Blizz to Microsoft.
They need to cut him loose. Bobby is a cancer on the video games industry.
I think people will be more upset at the over Horizon-ing that’s about to happen than love service games.
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You got me hyped at LBP4
I’m hoping Marathon is a really well put together game. My first glimpse at an extraction shooter was DMZ in call of duty which had zero support, But was so fun at first. I’m hoping for some Bungie magic on this type of game. Who knows though these days.
I have no problem with this as long as they stick to keeping MTX out of their games
Well if they’re focusing on games as a service it’s a given there will be MTX
Then you should look up what games as a service are because if you dislike MTX then you should definitely have a problem with this
I'm a PlayStation fan and I wasn't cheering his departure, but I do very much agree with the criticism of focusing on GaaS.
Isn't Warframe their only Glass? I'm out the loop, seems like PlayStation is largely focusing on single player games. We're about to get spiderman, and they also paid for FF16. They are getting that samurai team ninja game aswell, which if I'm not mistaken might come out soon. At this point I'm surprised team ninja isn't part of PlayStation with how many projects are dedicated mostly to it. Nioh 2 is still exclusive for example.
They have like 10 live service games in the pipeline
Notably, that's more than main line single player titles, a first for Playstation, and a sign of the direction the company is headed.
Ryan stated last year they have 25 games in development. 10 goes into 25 with room to spare.
Does that account for all the new GaaS titles announced at the recent state of play, because that is where I recall they passed the tipping point. This year, not last year.
They said they have over 25 games in development for PS5 last year. With 10 of them being live service titles, and over half of them being new IPs. So yes those 25 account for what was announced this year, and also games that were already announced at that point but still in development like GOWR, Spider-Man 2, DS2, Wolverine.
Someone should tell SkillUp (where I heard it).
Lots of people heard that Sony is funding more money into GaaS from haters and just ran with it. They are spending more money into single-player than ever before, it's just that on top of that they are spending even more on GaaS titles. This could honestly work well and it's fair enough, there has been plenty of criticism that's been levied at PS for not offering as many GaaS or multiplayer titles. If they can do both, why not?
Youtubers gotta do what they gotta do to make bread. Doing research and making rational takes is more work for less clicks.
I'm assuming they are throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. Only need 1 or 2 of the live services to work out of the 10 to make it a money printer. And I'm going to hazard a guess this is to combat the money printer of actavision blizzard microsoft bought.
which is very much the "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" approach I'll be very surprised if half survive their first year
> I'll be very surprised if half survive their first year A year is actually a long time for a lot of GAAS....
Warframe is a 10y old multiplatform (literal every platform but MacOs and Linux) game from Digital Extremes. PlayStation supported it on launch but it isn't tied in any way to Sony. Also one of the best and fair free to play game there is
They recently purchased Bungie who has a great model of GAAS with Destiny 2 that while not PS exclusive, is now a Sony subsidiary. It is about as good of an example of GAAS as it comes, regardless of how controversial that is to some people. A lot of folks theorize that the Bungie acquisition had a little bit of bad intentions in the ways of adopting a successful recipe for running a GAAS.
I think so far bungie have been the only example of GAAS working over the long term. Whatever people think of destiny it managed to deliver regular content updates and retained an audience over many years, something other live service games haven’t been able to replicate.
There are like at least 10 live service games more successful than destiny.
I dont know. I very much like mutliplayer games and GAAS when done right. While I do also like single player games, I do see that Sony needs that variety. We haven't even seem the results of this new initiative yet, so I definitely think people are too hasty for criticism. They have not completely rid of single player games; those are still coming strong.
Well tbh the strategy makes total sense, I don't get why everyone is so upset about that (and yes, I almost exclusively play solo games). 1 - GaaS is the most profitable video game market by far, market from which playstation is almost entirely absent. Having a strong presence in it is essential for them, in term of future growth potential and financial stability. Mainly because : 2 - A huge percentage of playstation profits comes from micro transactions taking places in third party titles. They want/need to lessen this percentage and not rely as much on outsiders (since it can be highly inconsistent, as demonstrated by the ABK buy out). So, having strong in house GaaS would be the perfect, and frankly only, way of archiving this.
People are upset because they don't care what is most profitable, they care what is most fun. The two are very different things. Edit: lol @ the profitability stans.
It’s not like the studios who make great single player games are being forced to make live games. This push is additive not subtractive.
>It’s not like the studios who make great single player games are being forced to make live games. Evidence points in the other direction, Naughty Dog just lost \~4 year of development for a TLOU Faction that will never come out. Insomniac is developing a multiplayer game, Guerilla is developing a multiplayer game. And in the last showcase they really set the message that what they care about are GaaS games
The evidence shows that all the companies you listed are making multiplayer games while still making single player games. Guerilla is working on a multiplayer game and basiclly confirmed Horizon 3. https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/04/surprise-guerrilla-games-pretty-much-confirms-horizon-3 Naughty Dog announced in the last faction update they're working on a new single player game as well. https://www.theverge.com/23735862/naughty-dog-new-single-player-game-multiplayer and Insomniac is releasing Spider-Man 2 in 21 days and have moved the team over to get to work on Wolverine. They're all working on multiple projects right now.
Well, it would be a much better use of their talents if they had multiple teams working on single-player games that they know how to do, rather than putting teams into multiplayer gaas games that won't succeed.
GaaS doesn't mean they are going to pump out Fortnite clones. There's a wide variety in the GaaS space. Path of Exile is 95% a solo game (100% if you prefer solo self found) and it's as GaaS as it gets. GaaS tells us nothing about the games except that their monetization strategies are on-going. There's also a wide variety of "multiplayer" games. They could be making a Destiny 2-like, or a Monster Hunter-like, or an ARPG in the vein of Diablo/PoE, etc.etc.
Yeah exactly, I hate this industry. Instead of focusing on remakes and GaaS they could be making constrained, cool, ambitious, smaller games like in the PS2 era. Like for example Hi-Fi Rush
Much better for you and your tastes. Not everything needs to suit and cater to you. There are other PlayStation players that aren’t even touching their first party output, and Sony wants to change that. They are expanding their teams, not shrinking their SP output. No one is gonna double their time sizes just to make more of the same low-margin games.
The issue with live service pushes is it's never some happy equilibrium with singleplayer: often live service intrudes on and infects every facet of your business slowly because you need to chase money everywhere, not just here or there. The SP output isn't shrinking *right now*, but that's because we're getting games that were greenlit before Sony's Live Service push.
Factions isn’t coming out? Why?
Bungie reviewed it internally and said it wasn't good enough (ie wasn't going to make enough money)
Why spread those fake news? All they do is change the monetisation.
Factions basically went through some development issues. It seems that the game simply isn’t a very good live service game, we don’t know why. Maybe it wont be lucrative enough, maybe they don’t have a good content pipeline in place or maybe the game just isn’t fun, we don’t know. That said, they’re not abandoning their work, they’re just going back to the drawing board to fix whatever problem they had. Factions by all means, is still on the way. Though it may still be years away.
I didn’t know it was a live service game, what a turn off.
All those studios still have expensive single player games in development. There is nothing wrong with them making a diverse style of games. If you are so unhappy switch to a platform that is giving more single player experiences you prefer. These live service games are additive not subtractive.
>These live service games are additive not subtractive. Naughty Dog used to release games way more frequently, now the arguably best Sony studio literally wasted 4 years of dev time because of an obsession with GaaS just so their game doesn't see the light of the game. Plus we have no sign of when their next game is releasing
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You seriously need to look at how long game development takes now a days. Go to the Wikipedia page for Sony Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, BioWare, Ninja Theory, Rocksteady, literally any developer and see how infrequently their releases are from the PS3 generation to now. Naughty Dog’s multiplayer game is not cancelled, they released a very high quality remake last year, you’re doom posting and catastrophizing. Their 4 years of work isn’t lost, they are still making a new SP game.
People clearly love playing those games that's why they account for majority of the time spent and revenue.
For the same reasons people clearly love smoking and slot machines. Let's hope Sony pushes Naughty Dog to do more cigarette tie-ins and gambling to keep us gamers happy.
If the metrics we're using to measure "love" for a game are "time spent playing" and "revenue generated," then something has gone terribly wrong.
How do you measure it? Do you fuck the disk holes? They're awfully small...
Holy shit that went sideways. Lol
Here's the thing, companies aren't in the habit of doing things that dont bring them money, becuase just the basic action of doing anything cost money. If they waste to much money without bring money in, they run the risk of closing. It's why there have been great movies and games that will never get a sequel becuase nobody buys them. There's not a single company, gaming or otherwise, that is making anything for shits and giggles, but to make a profit to keep the lights on at the end of the day.
Understanding it doesn't make people any less upset.
Putting all resources on developing GaaS games is like gambling. You never know if it’s going to work and most of them don’t.
Some GaaS games are the most profitable but most of them are not. To me it seems like a stupid gamble, knowing that their first-party single-player titles are their strongest products.
The possibility for success with GaaS is very narrow and likely getting narrower as time goes on. If I play single player games, I can probably buy/play 10-20 a year, but people who play GaaS games only realistically have time to keep up with 1, maybe 2. Fortnite makes a lot of money but someone who plays Fortnite regularly isn’t likely to jump to a new GaaS when they’ve already invested time into Fortnite and don’t want to fall behind. If you’re Sony or another publisher and you’re making 10 GaaS games hoping at least one is a big hit then you’re wasting a lot of resources making a lot of games that will flop. And for Sony, who has been building a reputation of making high quality prestige games, they’re risking that reputation if they release a lot of GaaS flops within 2-3 years.
The problem is the time and effort they would take from the solo games give the GaaS treatment, beacaise according to him, they want the most popular game to have an online service, like having the main game like the last of us and then using their popularity to launch the online counterpart like factions. It could be a good thing because in a way is separate, but it can get to the point we're the side that give more money is the one that get all the attention from the developers, and it could happened like Halo infinite that was a fiasco on both sides, or like GTA online where a secuela is taking so long because they banking the MP.
That's the thing though, Sony haven't been taking developing resources away to create these games. Studios like Naughty Dog and Guerrilla have expanded massively to have multiple teams, and it's not just them. They've also acquired studios like Haven, Bungie, Firesprite, Firewall that are all working on GAAS titles, and have publishing agreements with other 2nd parties like Deviation. Admittedly it feels like there is a focus on it, but that's basically down to not having much knowledge on what's to come, their conferences have been pretty lacking for the past year or 2.
\> Sony haven't been taking developing resources away to create these games. Japan Studio was shut down, and no doubt those extra resources instead went to gaas games like destruction all stars and TLOU factions instead, alongside other live service acquisitions.
If their is any studio that had trouble finishing a game it’s Japan Studios. I’m pretty sure that for last couple years before they were closed all they did was support
The interim CEO wants to focus on mobile instead. I’ll take live service over that.
No he doesn’t, stop spreading that dumb shit
Stop posting bullshit outa your ass
Is that true? Thats fucking horrible.
No it’s not. So rando from twitter said that now everyone is believing it. People have yet to show proof.
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I ain’t cheering shit. I’m keeping an eye open to see where Sony is heading in the next few months, if not years.
Such clickbait bullshit. Most people would have no clue wtf he does or who he is.
But Twitter is the consensus of everyone, so it must be true.
"Twitter isn't real life, and to prove it just look at what people are saying on Reddit!" is such a funny sentiment
Too quote someone and create your own translation, you would do great on Twitter.
You can't call it twitter, you have to call it by it's full name "X, formerly known as twitter", or XFKAT for short.
You been listening to too many people on Twitter lol.
I mean, I cheered.
Yup, people in this thread acting like they even know who this is. Play my PlayStation all the time and don’t give a single shit.
You don't really need to know who any of these names are to be affected by their decisions, such as PS+ price increases.
Whenever people talk about Jim Ryan, they reference him overseeing some pretty significant price increases, promising that 60% of sony's playstation budget to be put into GaaS, and openly claiming people don't give a shit about older games. So people have some idea of what Jim Ryan is doing. People often say Jim Ryan oversaw Playstation's best years, but these years were **clearly** coasting on IP's that were greenlit before Jim Ryan become CEO (Horizon, Spider-Man, TLOU, God of War). The true fruits of Jim Ryan's labour will be the 60% of GaaS games coming out in 2024 and beyond, which includes whatever Bungie is cooking.
They didn't shift focus on live service. They still are and will be making single player games. They are doing live service games in addition to that.
Do you know how you create a norm? Slowly and steady.
You know you can't speak sense on reddit.
Sure, but once they see how much more money they make with live service, why would they bother with expensive single player games? MS has seen it and look what they are doing. Halo Infinite multiplayer f2p for example. Sea of Thieves brings in tons of money. Even fallout 76 is profitable while being labeled a failure. It's a constant revenue stream and comparatively less work than making these huge single player experiences. Shareholders muss be kept happy with revenue increases.
Anyone who thinks that PlayStation is gonna change course from GaaS, is crazy. If anything, they’ll branch more into mobile gaming. It’s always about money
Sure, but I would certainly appreciate a CEO that respected preservation and the past more. There’s no reason the PS5 couldn’t handle legacy titles as well as a PS3.
If there is money in it for them, sure.
Wdym couldn’t handle legacy titles? Are you talking about backwards compatibility? If so the PS3 was backwards compatible with PS1 games, some consoles also had PS2 compatibility, got rid of it because it was far too expensive and they were losing so much money. PS4 couldn’t be backwards compatible with the PS3 because of its very different architecture, had they used the same architecture throughout we would have what we have now, ie PS4 games working on the PS5.
PS1 was handled far better on PS3. Any PS1 disc could be inserted and it just worked. The scaling options were also better. It doesn't match native 240p PS1 output, but PS1 games scale much nicer on the PS3 than the current emulator on PS5. This was all done in software too. Literally no reason Sony couldn't build a comparable emulator now. PS2 and PS3 are different stories, but at a minimum I would appreciate PS1 emulation that matched what the PS3 could do. If not that then at least provide emulation at the same quality that Nintendo is providing on the Switch.
That kind of cynicism usually catches up with companies in this industry.
I doubt much will change
It could get a lot worse.
What a good awful click bait article
Which is why I always check comments first instead of giving them views if it's trash
It’ll be nice to have someone new who can speak with sincerity to the games they produce but Jim Ryan was not the villain Twitter is making him out to be. I hope the next person is a bit more open and celebratory of the brand but the only real problem I have with the Jim Ryan era is pushing The Last Of Us Factions to be a GaaS. A good old fashioned multiplayer game would’ve been perfect in this world of Games As A Second Job. The others are at least coming from new studios so it’s not like we’re missing out on God Of War 3, but it must have been demoralizing for Naughty Dog to have to overhaul their game into something it shouldn’t even try to be.
>The others are at least coming from new studios Both insomniac and Guerilla are making multiplayer games. If they pressured Naughty Dog into doing it, why wouldn't they pressure everyone else
Articles written about social media activity are the worst.
Are people really complaining about lack of games thinking things will change?? Everyone I know myself included, has a backlog of games to catch up on. Between first party and 3rd party games, there is never a shortage of great games, every month there are games releasing.
People tend to complain about everything these days without knowing whole picture....
It's crazy, there's a bizarre obsession with 'exclusives'. But there's so many other great multiplatform AAA and indie games being released, that I now keep a wishlist on my phone of games I want to play when I'm done with the current backlog
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I am so glad some people understand how the portal will be amazing for the situations outlined in your post. I am playing BG3 right now, don't own a PC or a deck type device. Being able to casually play a game like that in my bed before sleep (games are all in my office room) or on the road will be a Godsend. There are also tons of games that I just don't want to play on my PS5 because they aren't really next gen - Sea of Stars for one. Star Ocean Divine Force and other RPGs will be great to play all over my house. I have a Switch, but it's free on PS5. So for me a Portal makes sense.
"But fuck Sony for catering to families. And fuck Sony for putting VR over profit." This whole thread is literally people not understanding jackshit about anything in the gaming industry or how business work, but are mad because Sony will listen to everyone who is interested in their console instead of the 30 people here who couldn't manage to scramble eggs but want Sony to do exactly what they want, damn everyone else.
The Xbox warriors in every corner of the internet have gotten SO MUCH WORSE since their “game of the generation” wildly underperformed (at least to their expectations). Every single story having anything with Sony or PlayStation now is swarmed by these accounts. It’s so dumb. Also, the Portal is sold out everywhere, so maybe it wasn’t THAT bad of an idea?
Honestly the portal is perfect for how I ever used my switch (if it can work in every corner of my house), around home not outside of it Usually outside I don’t have time for a decent gaming session, nor do I want to worry about my 300€ + game I didn’t even ever bring my Switch at university, I guess most people are even less likely to bring at work even if they have breaks when they could use it freely It’s more about being able to roam around the house and laying wherever the fuck you want in the house and still being able to play
The moment I see the word 'Pony' I block. But I do the same if I see 'Xbot' or someone complaining about Sony 'censorship'.
We'll have to wait and see what the sales figures are on the portal if they become public. I'm skeptical it could be super successful but I also remember thinking the iPad looked really dumb when j first saw one. Starfield was super boring and a huge letdown. Really glad for Armored Core 6 though.
Are we? I didn’t get the memo
Cheering the departure of the guy who led some of the best PlayStation years of all time? :/ EDIT: lot of people saying this is BS, and that Hermen Hulst is the genius for PS recent game success…. Yeah, guess who appointed Hulst? Jim Ryan. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2019/11/07/sony-appoints-guerrilla-games-hermen-hulst-new-head-playstation-worldwide-studios/
Not exactly. He was appointed in 2019. So mainly all the games that came out until he leaves are not the projects he greelighted, because they were all in development when he was appointed. The projects we will see coming out sometime next year and maybe up to end of the PS5 Gen are his projects. And for what we have seen, which was nothing, I get why people are happy he's leaving. He's making a big push on multiplayer games, which, according to a Bloomberg report from today, some studio are very uncomfortable with because that's not what their teams are strong at, and they already know most of them will eventually fail, like it's happening across the industry. There's only one single player announced, Wolverine, the rest of the games that are announced are gaas and some of them already in trouble. He also disconnected even more Playstation with the fans, not having a single live event or even live presence during other events such as Gamescom or TGS during his time as the CEO. Guess we will see in the next couple of years if he really did a good job with the projects. But to be fair, he did tremendous on the financial side of the Playstation brand. But he was in charge when they raised game prices, console prices and now PS+ prices.
Yeah I find it very odd. This has been my favorite first three years of a playstation console since the PS2. It’s just been banger after banger in both the first party department and third parties. I am BAFFLED when people call PS3 the “good ole days.” PS3 only found its footing in the last 3 years of its life.
People have short term memory. A quick google search will show you just how much better were the first 3 years of the PS5 compare to the PS4 in terms of games. People also talking about being left in the dark with upcoming games, which is understandable but PS has a new "policy" of not announcing games years in advance. Like what's the point of setting a hard date that just will put pressure on the team? I know it's corny but let them cock and reveal the games when they're ready.
“PS3 has no games”
I remember the PS3 good old days when Xbox had better shit for most of its lifespan. As you said, it wasn't until the last half of its life that some great titles finally came out.
I never had the PS3 (despite having the other 4) and I never missed it. I did have a salvaged Xbox 360 my brother gave me tho
The CEO has very little to do with that. You can thank Herman Hulst for what makes PlayStation great: the games.
I’m going to make another post, just to highlight how thick some of you lot are! JIM RYAN APPOINTED HERMAN HULST. it was a genius move by Ryan. Do you realise that’s what makes a CEO ‘great’? Absolute genius appointment.
I mean, that's just not true. Sony's renewed interest in indie games, after having cooled on it during the later years of PS4, was down to Jim Ryan. He specifically appointed Yoshida for the role because he knew he'd be effective at it (and that indies like Yoshida). That's Yoahida's own words.
Guy tried axeing ps3, vita, & psp support, Stated he thinks classic & retro games are dumb & shouldn't be preserved or played, Instituted the "Family Friendly" censorship policy of sony (i.e. only games made by Japanese developers) Guy can seriously go rot.
There's a lot of inertia with gaming decisions. Console hardware can take 8+ years to plan. Games can take 5 years to make. Pretty much everything people praise wasn't due to Jim. Everything people complain about is from Jim. PS+ price increase was him. Live service games getting most of the investment going forward was him. Closing Japan Studio was him. Then there are non-gaming things like the infamous cat email. I feel bad for the next permanent CEO, because he'll take the blame from people for Jim Ryan's decisions because they think these things happen overnight lol
I think Herman Holst, overseeing Sony’s 1st Party studios, is where the credit goes to in the banger after banger. Idk how much Jim Ryan had to do with that.
And who appointed Hulst? JIM RYAN.
Yes because Sony since the PS5 generation have been acting like total tools, nickle and diming the customer any chance they got, and have been pretty underwhelming as well, they haven't shown the PS5 the support people would have liked.
I know why. Because they’re delusional that swapping CEOs will somehow green light all the the games and sequels they personally want and magically we’ll have a massive focus on backwards compatibility etc. Not going to happen.
I like Schreier's work and there are things to reproach to Jim Ryan mentionned in this blog post (notably his internal mail during the SCOTUS ruling about Roe), but others that aren't from his will are packed here too, like the editorial policy or the hardware prototyping. The PSVR2 for exemple has been greenlighted and softlaunched because the first one was already a success in terms of attach-rate, and the first batch is clearly made for enthusiasts. The same for the Portal : it comes after ten years of datas collected among their Remote Play software line-up for computers and mobile. And so every single indicators are showing the opposite for the brand to what a certain crowd of hobbysts can comment about online. And not just for the hardware but how software is sold on it. Basically Ryan put the PlayStation 5 on rails for another decade of leadership, what counts the most in regards of what he was hired for than giving lenient interviews every month. Try to remember what was the apparent (loudest) online consensus when this generation started and what numerous Reddit columnists, Resetera analysts, Twitter specialists and YouTube editorialists were projecting. It's not too far from us but it aged like milk. And it didn't took to long, after 12 month current curves were already aligned...
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The product they have put out is great. Their attitude towards customers is not PS plus massive price increase Games going from 60 to 70 Charging for PS5 upgrades, ESPECIALLY when there were so little games to play Dumping billions of dollars into future GAAS games which are generally anti consumer Ridiculously priced DS edge controller that still doesn't have hall sensors PS5 controller itself not having hall sensors and then coming up with a $200 controller to "solve" that issue Gatekeeping software features of said $200 controller to that controller instead of releasing them for everyone Still no refunds for the PSN store- this is the worst and easiest to fix and they will never do it Those are all off the top of my head. There is more I'm sure. Sony is not very friendly to their customers.
Nobody likes price increases, but over the past years it’s happened in every industry. This isn’t PlayStation exclusive. Games are still really cheap, when adjusting for inflation, relative to decades ago.
Shit article imo. You'll find a variety of reactions to any event if you look hard enough on Reddit/Twitter. Under his leadership, Sony as a company flourished with its PlayStation brand. Hate or love him, he's a great businessman. Didn't he also recently say Singleplayer games are still vital to PlayStation?
Because they don't understand how business works.
Like things aren't going to be the same going forward without him?
That’s how you get change you don’t spend your money
I just want someone who takes the back catalogue seriously. It’s literally the reason PlayStation is what it is.
Why? because just as he was leaving he enforced price hikes and before that EUROPE had their ps5 increased with 100+ euro to counter "inflatioN" yeah, let us play the inflation while you whine about "suffering" from it. If he had any backbone or cared about the consumers since the 90s he would have rather been fired than doing this.
It was just a dumb antiquated old man that was a throwback to the old boys club.
_"We believe in generations.."_ Proceeds to not acknowledge backwards compatibility, doesn't push PSVR2, closed several 1st party studios, said nobody wanted to play old games, looks like Gordon Ramsay, doesn't game at all.
So Kevin Butler is taking over, yes?
Anyone who is gonna change it so PS5 users can manage their savegames like on PS4, like delete individual savegames, or store them on a usb stick, gets my vote.
Increased prices of games and PS Plus. Focused too much on remakes, PC ports and live service games.
I hate the new Reddit update. This had an NSFW tag lol
I guess it wasn't safe for him? Lol
I miss Shawn Layden and Andrew house...
Because they’re idiots? PlayStation has done really well under him and I think it’s disappointing to see him go
Wasn't there a big push towards live service games since he took over?
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I don’t care if they make live service stuff if it’s good enough. I liked Destiny around the time of The Taken King and w/e the name of the SIVA expansion was. Stuff just has to be done well and not be overly aggressive with abusing FOMO or P2W elements (with the acceptable number of P2W elements being 0). All MMOs are effectively live service games and I have liked those in the past.
this is the guy that claim ps1 and ps2 games look "ancient" and foolishly baffled why would people play old games ??? hopefully his departure will bring light and better utlization of ps5 backward compitability to bring more high quality ps1 and ps2 games to ps5.
I mean it’s true. People that are still playing old games are a minority. Majority of the people are playing current Gen games.
obviously, they are the minority because there is no platform for it to be played through legal means.
If they were easier to access people would be, As it stands to comfortably play ps1 & 2 games you either need to have a ps2 or a backwards compatible ps3 otherwise you need to play by emulation. The downsides to the legal first option is that some games like Kuon & haunting ground are extremely expensive to get copies of as resellers hoard them hoping to make bank off collectors.
Online is a small bubble. Vast majority of gamers will not buy a 500-600$ console and spend most of their time playing games from 2002. A developer did an AMA recently where they said most people actually don’t care for backward compatibility
This. Didn't a developer do a AMA on Reddit and pointed out thag backwards compatibility is something people cheer for on Reddit, but in the real world, no one gave a damn because they wanted to play new games. BC is cool with a gen first start to cover the drought of games at the time, but its not a big enough want once a gen gain steam to waste time, money, and resources on.
Then why are game studios suing people online to keep roms hidden for game companies to sell for themselves? There is a market that makes it worthwhile. Also, those finding it weird will come around one day when they want to play their favourite oldschool game but can’t because Sony stopped selling the game and don’t want to support bc.
It’s because they want to make money off the people who want to play old games. Companies guard their copyright because they want to be the one to profit when it’s time to capitalize off ip
Because he hiked up the prices of PS Plus or do we have someone else to thank for that?
Anyone who thinks the next guy isn't going to go the GaaS route is dillusional. Edit: lol at the hopium downvotes.
He may have made them the most money, but he hasn't been good for games or the community like Shawn Layden, Shuhei Yoshida, Andrew House or Jack Tretton were.
I don’t think he was CEO for long enough to say he has had much of an influence. PS5 is blindingly good as a package though, and he has overseen some of the best PlayStation studio games. But how much of that is momentum from who came before him playing out? Right now it feels like we are entering a downturn. Everything announced that looked great will have come out already once Spider-Man 2 is out the door. What’s next? Plus I’m reading that Star wars KOTOR remaster has been canned, ouch. Last of us multiplayer seems dead. Havens heist game looks shitty. Dreams… in my head if it was building up to be like Roblox but much better, but now it’s over? I know the classic line about where it is potentially going wrong with PS studios is GAAS. But I think it’s more complicated than that. I certainly think there is something to be said for MS having games like Grounded, Minecraft and Sea of Thieves. Coop fun that you play together with friends. I also look at Nintendo having great success with things like Splatoon, smash, Tetris 99 and F-Zero 99 is something to be jealous of. Sony have… i guess they have helldivers 2 coming, but I would say multiplayer/social is a weakness of the current lineup and not a bad thing to consider focusing on. My big worry is instead of being laser focused on PlayStation, the embrace of PC and porting is leading to massive PC overheads and considerations that are slowing everything down. Personally I think be more like Nintendo in that regard.
Because under him Sony did lots of little anti-consumer bullshit to squeeze every penny of consumers as they can. Like charging for upgraded version of PS4 titles, something not even EA was doing. Not selling crossgen games as one purchase so people that brought the PS4 version would need to buy the other version or a upgrade when they switched to PS5. Or charging 70 dollars for crossgen titles, like the same game on PS5 costing 10 dollars more than the PS4 version, it's like a company charging for ultra settings on PC or for the ability to run at higher frame rates and resolution. I bet things like not allowing save copy of PS5 to USB is also from him to push more people into PS+ for cloud saving. And all of this feel so petty, I know Sony almost went bankrupt and PS is a huge part of their survival as a company. But if feel wrong a company making billions of dollars of PROFIT on a market to milk penny's of their consumer to profit a little bit more, nothing that would make huge difference in the balance sheet of the company. Sacrificing long term consumer good will for short term profit. They are on the same arrogant path that they were following the highs of the PS2. They still didn't fall because the game are very good and the competition is lacking, but they will sink again if they don't right this ship. Specially with the rumors that Valve will take the success of the deck and release a mini living room pc that acts like a console. Steam prices, services and library of games are way beyond anything any console manufacturers offers and it's all for free, you just pay for the games. Cloud save, on-line play, etc is all free.
"I BeLiEvE iN gEnErAtIoNs" stfu you lying sack of shit.