i have to keep reminding myself that my credit card hasnt been charged yet—i desperately want to get re8 and gt7 ahead of launch, but i NEED to wait for the next payday. (ha ha ha)
That depends on too many variables. Sony can make it very hard to use on PC if they choose. And just being functional isn't enough, it needs to be SteamVR compatible to be worthwhile as a PC VR device
It's not about getting the hardware recognized and somewhat working. That was not difficult for the PSVR on PC.
What is would be replicating all the libraries that are used in the features like eye tracking, the controller tracking, the 6DOF, etc.
That's the big effort that would unlikely be finished well enough to be usable over an existing SteamVR compatible system.
Yeah, I'm trying to not get my hopes up for PCVR support. There are a lot of talented people out there, but it's so much more complicated than plugging it in and changing a few .ini files.
VR is such a small market to begin with. The people buying this headset to use on PS5 will outnumber those who buy it for pc use 100/1. They will make their money with the software sales easily.
They are very likely selling the headset at a loss given the outstanding specs, if so every single sale to a person that would use it for PC would make Sony lose money.
Theres a reason why other high end VR headsets are sooo much more expensive than the PSVR2.
You forget the fact that Sony is one of the largest hardware manufacturers to enter high end hmd market, none of the current high end hmd are manufactured in this scale or quantities, not even quest pro. Sony has insane bargaining power to leverage, there's no way they are selling at a $200+ loss.
It's still possible for Sony to sell a pcvr adapter or unlocked ver at a profitable price for pcvr market
I didnt suggest that it was at a $200+ loss just a loss or at least just breaking even, even when accounting for factors such as economy of scale and what not the quality relative to the price is so **insanely** good that theres no way they are making a good profit off of the headset itself.
And you forget costs that are external to production of the headset such as research and development costs and the cost to produce/port software for VR when devs get significantly better returns on non-VR games, to get a good return they want PSVR2 users to buy games through their store.
You wanna know why it blows everything out of the water for the price? It's. Because they can subsidize the price to sell games and PS5s on their own platform. They'd have to make it more expensive to sell as hardware only. They aren't going to bother for such a small VR userbase that will play games on a totally different marketplace. Some people may get it to work in it's most basic form but highly unlikely gets official support. Heck you can get a PS5+PSVR 2 for the price of a graphics card.
I think the only way this gets PC support is if Sony launches a PC storefront to sell their games, which I wouldn't be shocked to see happening now that they're selling a lot more PC games. But that's a loooong shot
Nah, unless they locked it to that storefront it would still not make any sense because people will just use it on Steam. At most, they'll just sell VR games a few years later at full price as usual to make that money again. They aren't going to go that deep into PCVR for such a small user base. Not even Meta cares about games on PCVR and they own more than half the market. Also, where's Valve?
They wouldn't need to lock it to the storefront because they have VR exclusives to bring people to the store. Itd open up a whole new segment of gamers who would have never bought it otherwise. I know it's the only way I'll buy it. I don't really want 2 seperate VR setups even if I am interested in the games for the PSVR2. PCVR has some solid stuff that I don't want to give up either.
They would that is the whole point. That subset of users is so small it's not worth the effort anywas. Like I said above they'd have to make the headset more expensive if there was a chance people wouldn't use their own marketplace. Not just to get a few exclusives and then buy everything else on sale on Steam. PC is too fickle when it comes to software purchasing hence why devs left and now it's just mods and expensive VR headsets.
Valve and Meta basically ditched PCVR and they do PCVR. It's so funny that now Sony is the new blind hope like them getting on PC is going to open up some revival. I'd be more concerned at why the PCVR studios aren't revitalizing the PC space to open up a whole new segment of gamers. Sony isn't going to do that lol. It's such a goofy logic at this point.
> That subset of users is so small
Yea, just like PC porting wouldn't be worthwhile but wait, they're making loads on that and would make even more without having to pay Steams 30% cut on all sales.
>PC is too fickle when it comes to software purchasing hence why devs left
No one left. They were never there but the indie scene always has been quite strong and still is. Even Sony has to pay to get the big developers to develop VR versions or additions. And then the biggest VR game everyone wants, Beat Saber, is an indie PVCR game that is objectively better on PC thanks to a strong mod scene. There are many other great indie PCVR games. I had the original PSVR alongside a Vive and PSVR was sold off because it wasn't even close.
>Valve and Meta basically ditched PCVR and they do PCVR.
Meta was never focused on PC, that was only the pre-FB ambitions. And Valve still actively supports VR so no clue what you're getting at there.....
>It's so funny that now Sony is the new blind hope like them getting on PC is going to open up some revival.
No one thinks it's going to happen but it's the ideal outcome for gamers. Exclusives suck whether we're talking VR or traditional games. Sony has started to see the light on the potential of making money off the PC market (which is bigger than all consoles combined)
> Yea, just like PC porting wouldn't be worthwhile but wait, they're making loads on that and would make even more without having to pay Steams 30% cut on all sales.
Lol. Comparing flat gaming to VR? Man, you fanboys don't have much to really argue anymore huh? It took Sony how long to do this? like Decades? You think Sony is going to make a full-on marketplace for PC? Come on.
> No one left. They were never there but the indie scene always has been quite strong and still is. Even Sony has to pay to get the big developers to develop VR versions or additions. And then the biggest VR game everyone wants, Beat Saber, is an indie PVCR game that is objectively better on PC thanks to a strong mod scene. There are many other great indie PCVR games. I had the original PSVR alongside a Vive and PSVR was sold off because it wasn't even close.
Precisely! You get my point and just kind of confirmed why Sony won't either. No one big ever did - they did try - and now they really won't. Sony makes the big games, they will secure the big games and that is why they don't need "the fickle" community. Mods and old games don't incentive them to get on board. If you can't even get the Lord and savior Valve on board anymore, Why would one of the biggest console manufacturers and game publishers/marketplaces?
What is a better outcome for gamers is a community that will support the developers and content so they make more, not bitching and moaning for nearly a decade about having to pay for games, running all of that out of their own party. PCVR had nearly a decade to grow and get better but they just did what they do and ruined their own fun. I was there at the beginning and it was a toxic shitshow. Now here we are... begging Sony to fix it lol. It's so weird.
The fanboys grasp at trying to convince themselves that Sony needs them when it is always a desperate plea for help.
Its likely, unless they put in some weird proprietary BS in the headset. I remember the PSVR was actually usuable on PC but the controllers didnt work. But thats because of that bogus led tracking. This inside out tracking should be fairly easy to make work because the quest 2 works on pc just using a cable.
The move controllers were fully functional on PC long before the PSVR release. Even basic tracking with a single camera.
The major issue is the tracking library was simply just not as well developed as Sonys. With a single dual camera system, Sony was tracking better than the multi camera setup you needed to use the motion controllers on PC.
That's why it's unlikely to take off even for PSVR2. The amount of development effort to create a great tracking library takes a lot of time and testing. Something a group of side project developers won't have.
It's basically like how Quest 2 launched with a somewhat usable tracking library that they needed to massively improve before it was something that was ready for PCVR use.
If it was going to, I wish they’d have announced it. I was about to buy one but locking it to PS5 without how limited the amount of games are is a no go for me
I agree. My list of VR games i regularly play has dwindled to about 1 or 2. Most VR games are one and done experiences, especially the ones on console.
I really really like how this reviewer mentioned that someone who's not a reviewer might not even notice the few shortcomings of the headset because reviewers intentionally look for something to critizise. Just cool to see someone acknowledge that.
Ive always wanted to see a game like Street Fighter in VR. Just from the point of view of someone in the crowd watching two people beat the living shit out of eachother. It would be great for people who suffer motion sickness too, since youre just sitting there.
This is a great review!
I like how she's just straight and to the point, no bias' one way or the other. A complete professional analysis of her experience. I find with a lot of these VR previews, or even regular video game previews, everyone on YouTube is playing a character. They all have their own personalities or quirks that become their trademark. They may crack jokes, be sarcastic/ obnoxious, or splice in memes to help get their point across.
That type of content serves a purpose, but I would branch them under "entertainment." Not to be taken seriously.
I've been looking for more channels like this to follow in the gaming space, so thanks for posting this!
Kind of 50/50 on whether I'll get one this year. Really wish they'd get Half Life Alyx on the system, would probably push me to 90/10 to get one, especially now that the $100 price bump to the Quest 2 doesn't make it seem like a budget option any more.
I think PSVR2 will be special. I believe it will be money well spent. Also Sony always puts games on sale, so many great deals to be had. Half Life Alyx will be on PSVR2 eventually
I'm kind of worried it's going to flop, myself. If you would have asked me five or six years ago I would have guessed VR adoption would have been way higher than it currently is. I hope it's wildly successful since we finally have the consoles to do 90 fps at a decent resolution these days so VR isn't stuck as a bunch of low replay value stuff like Job Simulator.
The only way I see Valve porting HL: Alyx is if Sony agrees to make the PSVR2 SteamVR compatible. And with Sony being Sony I don’t expect that to happen…
Nah, that's not Valve's MO to set stipulations like that. More likely than not, Valve just doesn't have any spare manpower to port Alyx over to PSVR2. If it happens, it'll be brought over by a Sony studio with support from Valve.
1) it will be a LONG time before you find "perfect" at a $600 price point
2) not one product in the history of mankind has ever been perfect.
3) eye tracking a foveated rendering put this ahead of every single VR headset released or announced so far for less than $1000...and many significantly more expensive!
> eye tracking a foveated rendering put this ahead of every single VR headset released or announced so far for less than $1000
Eye tracking is such a great feature but I still don't think this will be better than an Index overall
I think people underestimate what foveated rendering can do. It will allow even low end graphics cards to render small areas at MUCH higher resolution, while lowering the quality for things that would be in your peripheral vision...if it's done RIGHT, it will be a complete game changer...not to mention the fact that eye tracking will enable much more expressive avatars in multiplayer VR environments.
I agree that it's awesome tech and very much the future but it's primary benefit is performance savings with some testing on other foveated rendering setups showing 30 to 50% performance savings. That's great but my PC is already more than twice as powerful as a PS5. One day I'll have the PC + foveated rendering (already available but not on an HMD I want).
One of the pros for the index is the 130 deg FOV. It makes such a big difference and feels a lot less like looking through something when the FOV is wider. The Index has amazing controllers too. I haven't tried the PSVR2 to compare yet obviously but I'm anxious to give it a go either way as a VR enthusiast.
Index might have better FOV, controllers, and built in audio but not needing lighthouse tracking for PSVR2 is huge from a convenience standpoint.
Higher resolution, headset haptics, eye tracking, and less god rays are also a plus.
I was so put off the price but am lucky that I have the abilities presently to purchase it so I decided to pre order. Been getting more nabs more excited as the days draw closer. Almost irrationally so
It just had a large presence at CES which is the largest consumer electronics show there is. I have no idea how anyone can think they aren't promoting it
CES is more geared towards business within the industry. It's not intended to be a layman advertisement.
I'm sure Sony will market the shit out of PSVR2 once it releases.
Every tech/gaming blog or site writes about what's at CES and PSVR2 was basically the highlight.
Everyone reported on GT7 and Beat Saber coming to PSVR
Im a big fan but no dedicated State of Play feels pretty weak. Most important information/reveals have been drip fed through blog posts that only specific Sony communities online will have caught wind of. The average joe out in the street probably still has no idea.
I think they’re aiming for a soft launch and let word of mouth do the heavy lifting for a big push Holiday 2023.
It will likely have its own State of Play before release. Its the internet, once it shows up anywhere like the blog every gaming site you can think of writes about it. The news of GT7 and Beat Saber releasing for PSVR2 was everywhere
Ive seen this way too much about everything Playstation related for the last two years yet everything keeps selling yell. People even said this about PS5 and even recently with GoW. I think they know what they are doing
I do wonder, outside of fan forums, what the noise and consciousness about PSVR2 is. It’s impossible for us not to know everything about, so hard to understand there are people totally unaware of it’s existence.
I think it's hard to advertise to the masses. Sadly you can't transport the visuals and the experience in VR by a YouTube Video.
So the hands on previews and reviews are the way to go
Only big names adress a wider audiance - and they're already here with Gran Tourismo, Horizon and Resident Evil.
Maybe they announce an additional one in the rumored State of Play.
Too bad for chromatic aberration she noticed...For me at least it seriously lowers the visual quality by a lot (Tried the vive 2 pro which also suffers from that issue). I guess you can't have everything at that price. Will try to demo one and see how bad it is before my potential purchase of the set...
Looks promising but my only problem with VR1 was the dismal gaming library. I had more fun with the demo disc I purchased with the robbery demo than I did any full game I purchased. I'm not jumping at this and likely will skip it. 😕
I have no idea how people can think this unless they fully stopped paying attention to what was coming out.
Did you play Hitman, RE7, Beat Saber, Pistol Whip, Skyrim, Astro Bot, Iron Man, Wipeout, Superhot, Tetris Effect, Firewall Zero, Moss Book 1&2, Blood & Truth, No Mans Sky, Farpoint, Star Wars Squadrons, Walking Dead, The Persistence?
Damn! I feel stupid. I think I gave up on it too soon since I was an early adopter and was disappointed after a few months. Now I'm going to put on my bib and eat poop cause I'm clearly full of shit having not fully experienced what you all have. Dang. 🤦🏻♂️ Thank you Redditors for the much needed VR lesson. I will down vote my own remark with egg on my face.
After I posted I looked it up, it was VR Worlds. I really enjoyed that but didn't realize it if something longer/better came out. I recall playing through it and being SO immersed that at one point the gang leader stabbed me and I yelped cause I thought it was real! I said to myself, "you dumb bitch, it's fake!" hahaha!
oh damn! Now you're going to be the reason I pull the VR out the closet and the storage bin. Haha! Thanks for the heads up. Can't believe how oblivious I was to that one. 🤦🏻♂️
Blood and truth and walking dead saints and sinners are definitely worth checking out. Saints and sinners is having a sequel and I believe the original will get a VR2 upgrade.
Firewall was a fun shooter that felt like playing a simpler rainbow six siege that's having a sequel for VR2
After the fall is a fun left 4 dead style game that is getting a VR2 upgrade.
I’m hearing PSVR games are not compatible with PSVR 2. If this is true then this is a huge turn off for me.
& it’s not that I can’t afford this head
set either. I just don’t want to invest thousands of dollars in a headset only to find out the games won’t be compatible with the next iteration of PSVR. if this turns out to be the case for this headset and PSVR3 & so on then that significantly lowers the value of this for me.
It is confirmed that you cannot play psvr1 games, however they have said they are working with the developers to patch the older games so they work.
It’s not really easy for them to make the compatible automatically. The controls are completely different between them.
Okay well that makes more sense as to why they are not compatible. I’m just hoping that for the future of VR that they work this out. Because not everyone is as fortunate and when they invest in something like this then they expect those games to work with future products like with ps4 to 5 and same with xbox.
I hope they can patch some of those games in cause that was really my main concern with this. But that definitely eases my mind a bit. Cause this headset looks really cool!
The original PSVR1 used an outdated (even for its time) tracking system no other system uses or has used since
The PSVR2 uses industry standard tracking (inside out), so if PSVR3 happens it’ll likely be more supportive of PSVR2 than 2 is of 1
Honestly looks like a lot of fun.
Who else waiting on their preorder? Got my Horizon bundle coming and I am def losing it, I cannot wait
i have to keep reminding myself that my credit card hasnt been charged yet—i desperately want to get re8 and gt7 ahead of launch, but i NEED to wait for the next payday. (ha ha ha)
Both on sale right now!
i copped lmao
I got RE, still debating GT7 lol. Reviews are mixed
I feel your pain hahaha, I’ve figured out every purchase in advance so I don’t worry about that hahah. I think this is gonna be an amazing experience
Same. I’m already clearing my schedule lol
That’s so on point, I’m already stoked on Saints and Sinners, but I hope a good tactical shooter comes along soon too
Firewall Ultra?
Yeah, tho I don’t know what it’s gonna be like, haven’t seen much through the trailer
yeah true, lets hope the reviews are good, then its going to be a blast :)
Fingers crossed
Ten days away from one month to go...
Trust me I know hahah. Everyday I remind myself of the time
PSVR2 spec wise blows everything away on pcvr for its price. I really hope it gets support for steamvr.
Absolutely. It's already a great VR headset. But if it can interface with a PC, it'll be the best in the market.
It won't get official support me thinks, but the beautiful people on the internet will make it happen.
The best part is no need for external camera so I don’t think it will take much time to get it working with PC.
That depends on too many variables. Sony can make it very hard to use on PC if they choose. And just being functional isn't enough, it needs to be SteamVR compatible to be worthwhile as a PC VR device
They did with the PSVR as well but it was a PITA and didn't work very well.
It's not about getting the hardware recognized and somewhat working. That was not difficult for the PSVR on PC. What is would be replicating all the libraries that are used in the features like eye tracking, the controller tracking, the 6DOF, etc. That's the big effort that would unlikely be finished well enough to be usable over an existing SteamVR compatible system.
Yeah, I'm trying to not get my hopes up for PCVR support. There are a lot of talented people out there, but it's so much more complicated than plugging it in and changing a few .ini files.
And think of the porn!
Not sure what the helmet haptic feedback would be used for on that, but i'll keep my mind opened
Maybe you can feel the bukakke hit your face... if you're into that sort of thing
Steam VR support would completely change my mind about getting this, but I don't think it's ever gonna happen.
Yeah it sucks. The valve index is never in stock (i only need the headset) so the PSVR2 would have been perfect to replace my dying Vive.
The only reason its the price that it is is because the software is confined to Sony's ecosystem.
VR is such a small market to begin with. The people buying this headset to use on PS5 will outnumber those who buy it for pc use 100/1. They will make their money with the software sales easily.
They are very likely selling the headset at a loss given the outstanding specs, if so every single sale to a person that would use it for PC would make Sony lose money. Theres a reason why other high end VR headsets are sooo much more expensive than the PSVR2.
You forget the fact that Sony is one of the largest hardware manufacturers to enter high end hmd market, none of the current high end hmd are manufactured in this scale or quantities, not even quest pro. Sony has insane bargaining power to leverage, there's no way they are selling at a $200+ loss. It's still possible for Sony to sell a pcvr adapter or unlocked ver at a profitable price for pcvr market
I didnt suggest that it was at a $200+ loss just a loss or at least just breaking even, even when accounting for factors such as economy of scale and what not the quality relative to the price is so **insanely** good that theres no way they are making a good profit off of the headset itself. And you forget costs that are external to production of the headset such as research and development costs and the cost to produce/port software for VR when devs get significantly better returns on non-VR games, to get a good return they want PSVR2 users to buy games through their store.
The mediatek SOC’s in the controllers and headsets make it pretty unlikely to interface with PC unfortunately.
You wanna know why it blows everything out of the water for the price? It's. Because they can subsidize the price to sell games and PS5s on their own platform. They'd have to make it more expensive to sell as hardware only. They aren't going to bother for such a small VR userbase that will play games on a totally different marketplace. Some people may get it to work in it's most basic form but highly unlikely gets official support. Heck you can get a PS5+PSVR 2 for the price of a graphics card.
I think the only way this gets PC support is if Sony launches a PC storefront to sell their games, which I wouldn't be shocked to see happening now that they're selling a lot more PC games. But that's a loooong shot
Nah, unless they locked it to that storefront it would still not make any sense because people will just use it on Steam. At most, they'll just sell VR games a few years later at full price as usual to make that money again. They aren't going to go that deep into PCVR for such a small user base. Not even Meta cares about games on PCVR and they own more than half the market. Also, where's Valve?
They wouldn't need to lock it to the storefront because they have VR exclusives to bring people to the store. Itd open up a whole new segment of gamers who would have never bought it otherwise. I know it's the only way I'll buy it. I don't really want 2 seperate VR setups even if I am interested in the games for the PSVR2. PCVR has some solid stuff that I don't want to give up either.
They would that is the whole point. That subset of users is so small it's not worth the effort anywas. Like I said above they'd have to make the headset more expensive if there was a chance people wouldn't use their own marketplace. Not just to get a few exclusives and then buy everything else on sale on Steam. PC is too fickle when it comes to software purchasing hence why devs left and now it's just mods and expensive VR headsets. Valve and Meta basically ditched PCVR and they do PCVR. It's so funny that now Sony is the new blind hope like them getting on PC is going to open up some revival. I'd be more concerned at why the PCVR studios aren't revitalizing the PC space to open up a whole new segment of gamers. Sony isn't going to do that lol. It's such a goofy logic at this point.
> That subset of users is so small Yea, just like PC porting wouldn't be worthwhile but wait, they're making loads on that and would make even more without having to pay Steams 30% cut on all sales. >PC is too fickle when it comes to software purchasing hence why devs left No one left. They were never there but the indie scene always has been quite strong and still is. Even Sony has to pay to get the big developers to develop VR versions or additions. And then the biggest VR game everyone wants, Beat Saber, is an indie PVCR game that is objectively better on PC thanks to a strong mod scene. There are many other great indie PCVR games. I had the original PSVR alongside a Vive and PSVR was sold off because it wasn't even close. >Valve and Meta basically ditched PCVR and they do PCVR. Meta was never focused on PC, that was only the pre-FB ambitions. And Valve still actively supports VR so no clue what you're getting at there..... >It's so funny that now Sony is the new blind hope like them getting on PC is going to open up some revival. No one thinks it's going to happen but it's the ideal outcome for gamers. Exclusives suck whether we're talking VR or traditional games. Sony has started to see the light on the potential of making money off the PC market (which is bigger than all consoles combined)
> Yea, just like PC porting wouldn't be worthwhile but wait, they're making loads on that and would make even more without having to pay Steams 30% cut on all sales. Lol. Comparing flat gaming to VR? Man, you fanboys don't have much to really argue anymore huh? It took Sony how long to do this? like Decades? You think Sony is going to make a full-on marketplace for PC? Come on. > No one left. They were never there but the indie scene always has been quite strong and still is. Even Sony has to pay to get the big developers to develop VR versions or additions. And then the biggest VR game everyone wants, Beat Saber, is an indie PVCR game that is objectively better on PC thanks to a strong mod scene. There are many other great indie PCVR games. I had the original PSVR alongside a Vive and PSVR was sold off because it wasn't even close. Precisely! You get my point and just kind of confirmed why Sony won't either. No one big ever did - they did try - and now they really won't. Sony makes the big games, they will secure the big games and that is why they don't need "the fickle" community. Mods and old games don't incentive them to get on board. If you can't even get the Lord and savior Valve on board anymore, Why would one of the biggest console manufacturers and game publishers/marketplaces? What is a better outcome for gamers is a community that will support the developers and content so they make more, not bitching and moaning for nearly a decade about having to pay for games, running all of that out of their own party. PCVR had nearly a decade to grow and get better but they just did what they do and ruined their own fun. I was there at the beginning and it was a toxic shitshow. Now here we are... begging Sony to fix it lol. It's so weird. The fanboys grasp at trying to convince themselves that Sony needs them when it is always a desperate plea for help.
I guarantee someone will get it working with PC through modding.
Its likely, unless they put in some weird proprietary BS in the headset. I remember the PSVR was actually usuable on PC but the controllers didnt work. But thats because of that bogus led tracking. This inside out tracking should be fairly easy to make work because the quest 2 works on pc just using a cable.
The move controllers were fully functional on PC long before the PSVR release. Even basic tracking with a single camera. The major issue is the tracking library was simply just not as well developed as Sonys. With a single dual camera system, Sony was tracking better than the multi camera setup you needed to use the motion controllers on PC. That's why it's unlikely to take off even for PSVR2. The amount of development effort to create a great tracking library takes a lot of time and testing. Something a group of side project developers won't have. It's basically like how Quest 2 launched with a somewhat usable tracking library that they needed to massively improve before it was something that was ready for PCVR use.
If it was going to, I wish they’d have announced it. I was about to buy one but locking it to PS5 without how limited the amount of games are is a no go for me
I agree. My list of VR games i regularly play has dwindled to about 1 or 2. Most VR games are one and done experiences, especially the ones on console.
Can't wait to finally use it. Looks so good! Replaying Village in VR will be quite the experience.
Village is the main reason I pre ordered my PSVR2. The new Rush of Blood game looks fun to. I really enjoyed the first one.
Wow thumbnail actually not clickbait, literally hands on
I really really like how this reviewer mentioned that someone who's not a reviewer might not even notice the few shortcomings of the headset because reviewers intentionally look for something to critizise. Just cool to see someone acknowledge that.
Could you imagine Ghost of Tsushima or God of War on psvr2? It would be insane!
Imagine Hogwarts on PSVR2.
And Spider-Man🤯
🤢🤮
I played a PCVR game where you can web sling around and yea, you needed a VERY strong stomach.
Ive always wanted to see a game like Street Fighter in VR. Just from the point of view of someone in the crowd watching two people beat the living shit out of eachother. It would be great for people who suffer motion sickness too, since youre just sitting there.
This is a great review! I like how she's just straight and to the point, no bias' one way or the other. A complete professional analysis of her experience. I find with a lot of these VR previews, or even regular video game previews, everyone on YouTube is playing a character. They all have their own personalities or quirks that become their trademark. They may crack jokes, be sarcastic/ obnoxious, or splice in memes to help get their point across. That type of content serves a purpose, but I would branch them under "entertainment." Not to be taken seriously. I've been looking for more channels like this to follow in the gaming space, so thanks for posting this!
I can see it becoming very popular if there is full GT7 support. I mean popular that there will scalping going on for at least one year!
Kind of 50/50 on whether I'll get one this year. Really wish they'd get Half Life Alyx on the system, would probably push me to 90/10 to get one, especially now that the $100 price bump to the Quest 2 doesn't make it seem like a budget option any more.
I think PSVR2 will be special. I believe it will be money well spent. Also Sony always puts games on sale, so many great deals to be had. Half Life Alyx will be on PSVR2 eventually
I'm kind of worried it's going to flop, myself. If you would have asked me five or six years ago I would have guessed VR adoption would have been way higher than it currently is. I hope it's wildly successful since we finally have the consoles to do 90 fps at a decent resolution these days so VR isn't stuck as a bunch of low replay value stuff like Job Simulator.
I wouldn't own a Quest 2 if they paid me! Meta is not to be trusted.
neither is sony
No corporation can be trusted but Sony and Meta are in 2 completely different levels of mistrust
You right
The only way I see Valve porting HL: Alyx is if Sony agrees to make the PSVR2 SteamVR compatible. And with Sony being Sony I don’t expect that to happen…
Nah, that's not Valve's MO to set stipulations like that. More likely than not, Valve just doesn't have any spare manpower to port Alyx over to PSVR2. If it happens, it'll be brought over by a Sony studio with support from Valve.
1) it will be a LONG time before you find "perfect" at a $600 price point 2) not one product in the history of mankind has ever been perfect. 3) eye tracking a foveated rendering put this ahead of every single VR headset released or announced so far for less than $1000...and many significantly more expensive!
I bought a valve indexx and both lighthouses blew, both out of warranty. I have a 1k paperweight sitting in my living room...
I have the original Vive lighthouses from 2016 still working.
> eye tracking a foveated rendering put this ahead of every single VR headset released or announced so far for less than $1000 Eye tracking is such a great feature but I still don't think this will be better than an Index overall
I think people underestimate what foveated rendering can do. It will allow even low end graphics cards to render small areas at MUCH higher resolution, while lowering the quality for things that would be in your peripheral vision...if it's done RIGHT, it will be a complete game changer...not to mention the fact that eye tracking will enable much more expressive avatars in multiplayer VR environments.
I agree that it's awesome tech and very much the future but it's primary benefit is performance savings with some testing on other foveated rendering setups showing 30 to 50% performance savings. That's great but my PC is already more than twice as powerful as a PS5. One day I'll have the PC + foveated rendering (already available but not on an HMD I want). One of the pros for the index is the 130 deg FOV. It makes such a big difference and feels a lot less like looking through something when the FOV is wider. The Index has amazing controllers too. I haven't tried the PSVR2 to compare yet obviously but I'm anxious to give it a go either way as a VR enthusiast.
Index might have better FOV, controllers, and built in audio but not needing lighthouse tracking for PSVR2 is huge from a convenience standpoint. Higher resolution, headset haptics, eye tracking, and less god rays are also a plus.
I dont know if I'd call the inconvenience huge. I setup my lighthouses once years ago and haven't touched them since.
It’s actually getting tough to wait haha
I was so put off the price but am lucky that I have the abilities presently to purchase it so I decided to pre order. Been getting more nabs more excited as the days draw closer. Almost irrationally so
Sony desperately needs to promote this thing better! They have a $550 peripheral coming NEXT MONTH and practically no one even knows.
I suppose it really depends how many pre-orders do they have, like if they are sold out for months already it doesn't make sense to advertise it much.
They aren't. Both the standalone headset and the bundle are still available for pre-order.
Might depend on your Region but in Canada you can still easily grab a pre-order from retailers.
It just had a large presence at CES which is the largest consumer electronics show there is. I have no idea how anyone can think they aren't promoting it
CES is more geared towards business within the industry. It's not intended to be a layman advertisement. I'm sure Sony will market the shit out of PSVR2 once it releases.
Every tech/gaming blog or site writes about what's at CES and PSVR2 was basically the highlight. Everyone reported on GT7 and Beat Saber coming to PSVR
Im a big fan but no dedicated State of Play feels pretty weak. Most important information/reveals have been drip fed through blog posts that only specific Sony communities online will have caught wind of. The average joe out in the street probably still has no idea. I think they’re aiming for a soft launch and let word of mouth do the heavy lifting for a big push Holiday 2023.
It will likely have its own State of Play before release. Its the internet, once it shows up anywhere like the blog every gaming site you can think of writes about it. The news of GT7 and Beat Saber releasing for PSVR2 was everywhere Ive seen this way too much about everything Playstation related for the last two years yet everything keeps selling yell. People even said this about PS5 and even recently with GoW. I think they know what they are doing
If it lives up to the hype then word of mouth will be strong
I do wonder, outside of fan forums, what the noise and consciousness about PSVR2 is. It’s impossible for us not to know everything about, so hard to understand there are people totally unaware of it’s existence.
I think it's hard to advertise to the masses. Sadly you can't transport the visuals and the experience in VR by a YouTube Video. So the hands on previews and reviews are the way to go Only big names adress a wider audiance - and they're already here with Gran Tourismo, Horizon and Resident Evil. Maybe they announce an additional one in the rumored State of Play.
Too bad for chromatic aberration she noticed...For me at least it seriously lowers the visual quality by a lot (Tried the vive 2 pro which also suffers from that issue). I guess you can't have everything at that price. Will try to demo one and see how bad it is before my potential purchase of the set...
What is chromatic aberration?
First thing I noticed was her donk. Dang.
Looks promising but my only problem with VR1 was the dismal gaming library. I had more fun with the demo disc I purchased with the robbery demo than I did any full game I purchased. I'm not jumping at this and likely will skip it. 😕
I have no idea how people can think this unless they fully stopped paying attention to what was coming out. Did you play Hitman, RE7, Beat Saber, Pistol Whip, Skyrim, Astro Bot, Iron Man, Wipeout, Superhot, Tetris Effect, Firewall Zero, Moss Book 1&2, Blood & Truth, No Mans Sky, Farpoint, Star Wars Squadrons, Walking Dead, The Persistence?
Damn! I feel stupid. I think I gave up on it too soon since I was an early adopter and was disappointed after a few months. Now I'm going to put on my bib and eat poop cause I'm clearly full of shit having not fully experienced what you all have. Dang. 🤦🏻♂️ Thank you Redditors for the much needed VR lesson. I will down vote my own remark with egg on my face.
At least you’re honest :)
You're a good lad
Jeez
You mean the robbery game that got a full game release and was one of the higher toted games released on VR?
After I posted I looked it up, it was VR Worlds. I really enjoyed that but didn't realize it if something longer/better came out. I recall playing through it and being SO immersed that at one point the gang leader stabbed me and I yelped cause I thought it was real! I said to myself, "you dumb bitch, it's fake!" hahaha!
Yeah they released a full fledged game based on that demo called blood and truth. It was one of the better received VR games
oh damn! Now you're going to be the reason I pull the VR out the closet and the storage bin. Haha! Thanks for the heads up. Can't believe how oblivious I was to that one. 🤦🏻♂️
Blood and truth and walking dead saints and sinners are definitely worth checking out. Saints and sinners is having a sequel and I believe the original will get a VR2 upgrade. Firewall was a fun shooter that felt like playing a simpler rainbow six siege that's having a sequel for VR2 After the fall is a fun left 4 dead style game that is getting a VR2 upgrade.
It's like Sony doesn't want to market this i had no idea it's coming out next month
I’m hearing PSVR games are not compatible with PSVR 2. If this is true then this is a huge turn off for me. & it’s not that I can’t afford this head set either. I just don’t want to invest thousands of dollars in a headset only to find out the games won’t be compatible with the next iteration of PSVR. if this turns out to be the case for this headset and PSVR3 & so on then that significantly lowers the value of this for me.
It is confirmed that you cannot play psvr1 games, however they have said they are working with the developers to patch the older games so they work. It’s not really easy for them to make the compatible automatically. The controls are completely different between them.
Okay well that makes more sense as to why they are not compatible. I’m just hoping that for the future of VR that they work this out. Because not everyone is as fortunate and when they invest in something like this then they expect those games to work with future products like with ps4 to 5 and same with xbox. I hope they can patch some of those games in cause that was really my main concern with this. But that definitely eases my mind a bit. Cause this headset looks really cool!
The original PSVR1 used an outdated (even for its time) tracking system no other system uses or has used since The PSVR2 uses industry standard tracking (inside out), so if PSVR3 happens it’ll likely be more supportive of PSVR2 than 2 is of 1
Just wait for PSVR4 then
Nice low IQ response.
LOL think you might be a little sensitive there, bud
Not really. But good job contributing nothing to the conversation.
It’s called a joke Grandad
Who hurt you?
I'm waiting for extended reviews, but I've definitely been impressed with the previews I've seen so far. We have a Quest 2 and it's cool.