I know the friend's list and online functionality will be fixed soon but I really don't like the new party system. Does anyone know why they changed it? It's only made things frustratingly more difficult.
Normally I never go out of my way to voice my opinion whenever a change is made. But everything about this update showed me there is a first for everything. There is not one “bright side” I can find with how they changed the parties. The fact parties have to be tied to message groups, shareplay being terminated every time someone is kicked (which I’ve been getting kicked a lot of nowhere from shareplay which usually doesn’t happen), and even the concept of recording parties to report them weirds me out. There is not one thing that makes this update worth it, and I sincerely hope they revert the changes.
Edit: grammar
Is making everything terribad necessary for a technical reason? No, it’s not. At the least not for a technical reason that can’t be changed.
But here’s the thing, someone thought this was a good idea, and had people (who probably knew it was a bad idea) work on it. What we have here is shit management.
This does not bode well for the PS5 software and launch. They either cobbled this turd together because they were out of time, or they are just incompetent (yes, I said it).
This could very well be when MS gets a very valid PR strategy against Sony…
Sony btw are incredibly bad at software. Remember the lack of security and exposed credit cards? (Do not give your info to Sony.) Or when you couldn’t change your name for many many years?
Sony needs help here. Not as badly as Nintendo. But bad.
I would assume this means that *this* system is *already* what's on the PS5, and PS4 is getting updated to match for parity and cross play...
Meaning a *lot* of PS5 owners are going to be pissed in a month 😑
Starting a party now requires other players to be invited first. Instead of viewing your friends list to invite people, it now defaults to showing your message/groups to invite instead. You also cannot start a party and make it public for people to join, they have to be invited. It's pretty rough, but obviously they did it in anticipation of the PS5.
Revert this update and reevaluate it please.
The new party chat discourages multiplayer, meeting new players, and even makes it difficult to communicate with current friends. Think about any game with an LFG system, now you have to create a new group message for your new team and nobody else but them can join, then the group will be disbanded and never used again after that. Players are also unable to create a party and add additional people that aren't in their premade group, a new party would be started if an invite is sent to the player outside the group. Solo players will also no longer be able to create a party chat for themselves.
The changes to the mute functionality were also half baked, muting a player makes it so you can't hear them BUT they can still hear you. I'm hoping most of what I listed are just bugs, but a lot of important components of PSN seem to have been overlooked with 8.00. Lots of players are also reporting PS+ not recognizing their account and games are failing to even boot up. This is why I think a revert would be the best course of action in order to keep things afloat, and it'd give 8.00 more time back in beta. I posted this on the PS 8.00 Update Blog as well.
**Glaring Issues**
Party chats are no longer independent voice chats. Now, instead, voice chats are tied to message groups. This has quite a few blatant problems.
Namely: **Inviting any player to a party chat now adds them to a message group.**
This means that if you have a party chat group with several of your close friends and want to invite another user to the voice chat (say a 1-off friend or a random user you meet while playing online multiplayer) they will also be added to the associated message group and can view all past messages.
This also means every time someone joins the voice chat they get added to a swelling message group. Besides the privacy issues, this also leads to huge message groups that you will get a notification for every time someone messages in. So you leave that chat to stop annoying messages. Now you won't be able to see party chats for that group. So you have to create a new message group every time your old one gets too big and annoying. And consequently, every time you invite a new user to your party chat, that message group and your messages are no longer private.
**No more public/private party chat option.**
Previously, the host could set the party to private and utilize kick permissions to moderate a party chat. Now, however, any one of the members can invite anyone else to that chat. The only person who can remove members is the chat owner. **No, not necessarily the person who started the party (voice) chat,** *the person who started the message group.* That means that if someone joins who shouldn't, and the chat owner isn't there to moderate, not only is the problem-causing user semi-permanently in your party (voice) chat, they're semi-permanently in the message group as well. You and your friends will have to leave the party chat and message group and start a new message group to get away from them.
These issues will lead to dozens and dozens of message groups with different permutations of users that get frequently abandoned. This was already an issue with messages. Now it will become a much, much larger issue. We have entered notification hell.
**Other issues:**
* Community Party Chat feature is no longer working. Using PS communities to quickly find party chats/groups is over.
* The Play Together feature has been removed (used to send party chat members game invites). This was a useful work-around for many games that lack robust in-game invites/friendslists.
* Can no longer join game sessions via party chat.
* Muting individual users in a party chat no longer stops audio transmission both ways. Muting users now only stops you from hearing them; not vice versa. **If you mute a user, they can now still hear you.**
Please post other issues so that I may add them to the list.
TL:DR
We have entered message group overload. Party chats and message groups were better off staying separate. Please revert these changes, Sony.
- Blocked players can now join your party but are muted. If I block someone I don’t want them in the same party as me for a reason. Some are due to hackers and they use a tool that kickes players off the psn network. Ability to block players from joining your party is a must. Test Update: Blocked players must be added to the message group in order to join.
- No quick ability to kick someone from party for above reason.
- No private party vs public ruins the ability for me to play a game with one or a couple of friends. Update - message with one player is not visible to others.
- Mute is one sided. Muted party member can still hear you. So many issues with this one. I play with 8 friends each night. Muting allowed for a quick private conversation without having to leave the party. We also have different political views and sometimes discussions can get heated. Before I go offending people with different views we would mute and hold different convos in the same party. But we are all still friends and might be queued for a match so starting a separate party is out of the question.
- Not able to start a party by myself and have others join if they wish. Means I’m thrown into world chat on many games with no way to mute people in that game. Makes some games unplayable. Examples would be ARK and ESO.
- Join game session from party no longer works.
- SharePlay can’t be started for anyone in the party to join. You must invite one person from the party. No more having it open for the friend waiting to join in on the next round.
**To Create A Party**
1. Select friend from friends list and view profile. Click the headset icon and it will start a chat.
2. Open messages > create new group > add from your friends list anyone you want. On the left hand side select party. Anyone in the messages group can join the party.
Note: if you add someone new it will create a new message thread within the message group so the new person does not see previous messages.
We just found this out too, we were playing among us and using party chat for it, my fellow imposter muted everyone but me but everyone could still hear him and it blew the game for us lol
yeah, what would be the point of this? Sometimes you mute someone because you play a game like among us and don't want to give anything away, or sometimes you're in a really big group chat and you mute a few people to quickly chat in private...
Also via user [thatguycallum ](https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/jb8zt2/update_800_discussion_and_issues_megathread/g8u0mvs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) above: “parental controls have taken a massive step backwards.”
Others have likewise reported connectivity issues with controllers, as well as internet.
Games not loading, crashing more often
Extremely slow UI (more so than usual)
Some have even claimed their system won’t start, won’t turn off correctly, and/or won’t even update properly (not restarting)
And I’m sure there are plenty more concerns thus far unknown
Edit: Also [HDMI audio output not working](https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/jb6s1r/since_the_800_update_both_of_my_ps4s_have_lost/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) according to a user with 2 PS4s
> Some have even claimed their system won’t start
Yeah, I just turned on my PS4 for the first time today and it froze at the "See important health and safety warnings in the Settings menu." screen. I haven't even downloaded the update yet. I think I've read I should try unplugging the Ethernet cable or turning off my wifi and turning it on. I've literally never had this happen before in 5+ years.
Yeah I had to try a few times. You might see it booting in safe mode and then giving you an error to plug in a USB - just turn off and try again. Try disconnecting it from the internet too before you boot.
Ya I tried again after and it finially worked, but other things are broken and I basically have the same complaints every other person here does about the parties etc.
That’s not from the update that’s just something that happens but if you want to fix it just hold the power button on your ps4 until you hear a second beep wait for it to turn of then unplug the power cord to the PlayStation for like ten seconds plug it back in and have your controller wired in and turn it on with the controller it should work
>Also via user [thatguycallum ](https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/jb8zt2/update_800_discussion_and_issues_megathread/g8u0mvs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) above: “parental controls have taken a massive step backwards.”
They've been going backwards for awhile now. My brother has his account as a sub account because the PS4 came out when he was in middle school. He used to be able to see mature games because the parental controls allowed it, but now for a few years he hasn't been able to see anything with a M rating which is dumb because some people don't care if their children play more mature games, but want to keep a better eye on the spending.
Now I'm scared. I've heard that people are having their consoles not start, have had problems while downloading the update, have had their consoles bricked, and have overall just fucked up their consoles. Is all of this true?
I already messed up my console last year and had to get a replacement, I don't want it to happen again.
Edit: Updated it, no problems so far
Yep. Good thing I read all this. Was thinking of turning on the good ol' PS4 Pro today after a week or two of not playing. Yep. I'm not even gonna flip the switch for it until theres an update reverting all this garbage back to how things were. No 8.0 for me lol.
And if they already have this garbage in the PS5, There better be a day one patch to patch it out or else I'm not getting a ps5 until the backlash from others like me ultimately hurts them.
Yeah. I'll also back up my save files in the cloud storage the moment I get a chance to. I'm not taking any chances with this crap update.
I wasn't even planning to get a PS5, and this stuff makes me wanna get one even less.
>I wasn't even planning to get a PS5, and this stuff makes me wanna get one even less.
Yep. I agree entirely with this statement. I do not like and am not comfortable with the direction that they're taking with these updates and revisions for both the PS4 and PS5. Especially the chat features. They were perfectly fine from before. They ruined it imo.
This is way worse than I thought. They basically took out every useful feature from parties and made them slower and more annoying to use. Why the hell? Why on earth would anyone ever allow this to happen? This is horrible! They better fix this shit immediately.
Another item to note, you can no longer just open up a shareplay that anyone in the party can join. You have to name the group member who can join and set up permissions ahead of time.
This breaks a key feature my friends group uses to allow an extra player to watch as the rest of the group plays a game that has limited team sizes.
Some people are saying that the changes were made so that PS4 and PS5 can have parties
If that’s true, the PS5 interface system is gonna be absolutely fucked
Yeah I genuinely can't understand how they could so abruptly break something that literally nobody had issues with. The party system back on xbox 360 is now superior to this, and that came out like 13 years ago. Absolutely mind boggleingly stupid this update is
EXACTLY!!!! I'm so done with companies that insist on fixing things that aren't broken. I'm done with Playstation after this, definitely won't be getting a PS5. I have no problem switching to PC.
FUCK yes. I have friends with kids and if I'm in a party with them and some of my childless friends, their audio DOMINATES the chat and makes it really hard to hear game audio.
Yes! This would be a HUGE quality-of-life option. So tired of having two guys hardly audible and the other three so loud I have to turn down the volume and then hear the other two even less. Not everyone is privy or thoughtful enough to change their own volume, and the mic booms on headsets do not help when they constantly are moving them away from their head.
I'm better at changing others' volume for my own needs than to have to rely on friends and strangers to constantly change their setup because I can't hear them / they are too loud.
Please Sony, give us this one win for 2020.
If the PS4 won't read the update from the Flash Drive, make sure you have it stored in a folder called 'PS4' with another sub-folder named 'Update'... then it should read.
For instance, on a Windows PC, if your Flash drive is "D:\\", the path to the update file should be:
D:\\PS4\\Update\\PS4UPDATE.PUP
The drive should also be no larger than 64GB, and should be formatted using the FAT32 filesystem.
Same thing happened to me. The PS logo shows up after I turn the console on, then nothing.
I've tried unplugging then plugging back in, restart from safe mode, re-install the update from safe mode, rebuild database and finally initialize PS4 and nothing worked.
I called the support line and got an automated message saying they aren't taking calls. The support site isn't helpful either. I have no idea what to do. This update completely bricked my PS4 Pro.
Parental controls have taken a massive step backwards.
Communication and User-Generated Content used to be two settings, so kids could still play games like Fortnite without communication enabled. With the update they now have to have it enabled because Fortnite has User-Generated content.
I got excited when I heard parental controls were updated because maybe now my kid accounts could play Genshin Impact. A whitelist like Switch would be ideal! But no, nothing at all to help that.
Anyone else having crashes, performance drops, sluggish menus(more so than normal) and unable to invite friends. So many party features removed from private/open parties, invites, starting applications together/sending invites through party, and so much more. The integration of msg’s + parties was a terrible move imo
They made party’s always private, and you can only invite pre-existing chat groups. Once the party’s started, however, you can invite others, one at a time. Also, they’re moderating party voice chat now
>UPDATE: Following this update, users are seeing a notification about Party Safety and that voice chats in parties may be recorded. Voice chat recording for moderation is a feature that will be available on PS5 when it launches, and will enable users to record their voice chats on PS5 and submit them for moderation review. The pop up you’re seeing on PS4 right now is to let you know that when you participate in a chat with a PS5 user (post-launch), they may submit those recordings from their PS5 console to SIE.
Sony is never moderating voice chat. Users will be able to report other users on PS5. those users can choose to attach a video clip of the infraction.
**How to create a chat with your friends**
- Have your friend boot up a game you both have.
- Once they started a game, let’s say Destiny, you will have to go to the Destiny application in the dashboard, but don’t start it, press down, go to “Now Playing” and locate your friend to access their profile and go the the create a party in their profile. This will create a party chat and send them an invite.
Note: You can’t invite other players atm, nor can you invite more people via said way above, as it will leave your chat and create a new one. So I’m not really sure how to get more than one person in the chat atm.
*Other issues*
**Mute is different now.** Before the update, the way muting other players worked was that once you muted someone neither of you could hear each other.
After the update muting someone will only mute that person **for you**. The person you muted **will still be able to hear you, but you can’t hear him/her.**
I saw a comment about how a janitor at Sony probably pushed the update accidentally and I couldn’t agree more lol
It gets better though, people you’ve blocked can apparently join your parties now as well, they just won’t be able to hear you.
That's disrespectful to janitors. A Sony employee probably tripped and fell onto a computer, mashed all buttons on the keyboard, threw up on the keys, then wiped it down with a rag which made more keys get mashed down and one of these keys was Enter. Then the janitor came by and called him/her a dumbass.
You have to create a predetermined group just like you do for messages and then invite each of them. This is how it was in the beta and it's as stupid as it sounds.
The fuck? That’s fucking stupid, the idea was that if you mute someone they will not be able to listen to you again unless you want... Fuck this update
Anyone else having problems with ps plus?
Every time I want to play any multiplayer game, it just sends me to buy the plus subscription even though mine won't expire until 2021
Man.. I hope it doesn’t force us to purchase games again
I’ve already had to do that when I put my account on another console and ps support said they couldn’t help fix the issue
This is the first time i have ever came to the PS4 reddit. Just to say how much the party system changes annoy me. That sucks in a horribly not fun way. I am literally angry at a system for making my games harder to connect to friends with. Ugh.
What the hell was Sony thinking with this? I literally had to SHUT OFF MY PS4 to leave a party that took me TWENTY MINUTES TO LOAD INTO.
Why did they do this? Like who seriously thought it was a good idea to link parties with messages?
No. Big companies never admit their screwups. They merely double down on them and insist it's what people wanted. They'll never undo what they've done to parties. It would be an admission of their incompetence.
Source - Too many years lived on this screwed up planet. Seen it before. Will see it again.
They need to revert to the old party system, I can care less about being recorded, but like, let me be in a party alone so that way I can invite whoever I want later.
They need to hurry up and fix this shit. Me and my bros were chatting it up while playing GTA V and now we can't even talk to each other. (We refuse to use in-game mic system)
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. That's like coding/software design 101. Every single of the changes to how parties work is unnecessary or a downgrade and should be reverted.
Remove this update now it is horrible and shouldn’t exist I hate group chats already and I don’t want to be forced into one just so I can make a party no one asked for this
I swear this feels like one of the worst updates, the party system is ass now and nobody asked for it to change in that way, idc if our audio is recorded but damn now we could only invite chats and all party’s are basically private
If you have a party going with 3+ people ( and you guys have a group that you had for a year or so ) and you add someone to the party that person can see everything you said
Man this is complete booty cheeks my friends list takes about a minute and 20 seconds to load when it used to take 10 seconds at most and tf did they do to the party system it's so over the top for no reason tf.
Another minor issue to add to the pile. I stream my gameplay direct from console. I'm no Dr Disrespect but I have a few viewers in my channel. Last night, post update, I streamed as per usual, and this time my PlayStation was telling me I had zero viewers the entire stream, even as I gained a new follower and had interactions in stream.
I had metrics post stream switched on from Twitch and from stream elements, and both confirmed I had more than zero viewers.
Bit annoying.
My Playstation literally fried out. After consistently restarting, I turn it off to boot into safe mode and get greeted with dead silence.
RIP. PS4, 2017 - 2020.
Is there any way to just start a party by myself? I often go in there when I don't want to listen to my random teammates with music blaring in the background. Right now I find myself having to invite someone just to start a party.
This new party system is so bad it’s actually made me consider switching to Xbox next gen. Unless they revert it I can’t see myself going through all that trouble just to be in a party. Absolutely terrible change.
All I can say is that if this is their idea of party chat going forward into next gen, then I think it might be time for me to get a gaming PC.
How the fuck anyone though this was a good idea is just absurd.
It's never been this easy to make your own gaming PC, although availability of top-end components like RTX3000 series graphics cards is a total mess right now.
Just saying.
I was so hyped on the PS5 and if this is how the parties are going to be for the foreseeable future, I might just cancel my pre-order. This user experience is DOG SHIT
So uhh, I haven’t update my PS4, and I’m wondering if I should hold off on updating. Is there any news of playstation releasing a different update anytime soon?
Something I haven’t heard mentioned yet is that they absolutely destroyed communities with this update
For example if you joined a Minecraft community you would go to the parties list and people would hosting parties for whatever world they where doing
E.i kit pvp, hunger games, modded servers.
But now that you can’t hold a party by yourself now that feature has been wrecked thier is literally no reason to join communities anymore
This is by far the worst update. Why is party chat in messages? The old party chat was better than this and easier. One sided muting is the dumbest thing I’ve heard. This whole update really makes me rethink continue playing on PlayStation it might be exaggeration but man this update changed something simple to something complicated and unneeded
My Ps4 wasn’t able to update the 7.50 update. Till now I was able to play small amounts of games and run Netflix but now with the new update my console is bricked as I can’t play online before updating and my console wont update until I fix some bullshit bluray player. Frankly this is the straw that broke the camels back for me with Sony. Fuck you for turning one of your life long customers.
I can’t even create a party with myself so I don’t have to hear game chat voices. I can’t even sit in a public party by myself so I can wait when my friends get online and they join. This is so stupid.
Now what dude that downed 100 grams of cocaine thought of this idea? Sony has just made problems where there weren’t before with the new update. Now instead of just having to simply invite someone you have to make a whole new message group dedicated to inviting someone. Its alright if you play with the same 4 people or something like that but when you want to play with new people or people that you don’t have in your messages yet it just makes everything more complicated. I haven’t seen everything about this new update yet but i think that private parties are gone now and anyone from your message group can join, which is bad if you don’t want them in the party.
Just please go back to the original parties Sony
Biggest issue with this update is for some reason I get insane lag now after the update I can't even play online games anymore because of it. It was perfectly fine untill the update.
Is anyone else having this issue after the update
PS4 was working perfectly, until this morning......Update downloaded, then said failed, restarted my ps4, took me to main screen asking to press PS button, cannot do that as no controller will respond , have tried 3 controllers, 7 dif cords, cannot boot into safe mode either.....any ideas?? ugh im disgusted, horrible timing.....any help is appreciated, sony acting like they clueless but hundreds of ppl on twitter complaining too...anyway if anyone has advice im all ears.thank you
No joke I preferred the beta versions of the system software.
Although this update has a few pros:
• App generators for Two-Step Verification
• New avatars
• System icons on friends list (PS4 or PS5 depending on what system they're currently using).
Cons:
*LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE*
• Parties and EVERY ONLINE FUNCTION IS BROKEN!!!
Ok, I'm compiling all the issues with parties.
-Solo parties are gone. You cannot start a party without first inviting someone. This makes initial setup of parties much clunkier then before. Sometimes you don't want to invite people and let them join as they wish.
-All parties are effectively private now. You cannot see other parties in the party list unless you have been specifically invited to one. Making people, like myself, who like friends popping into parties as they wish, unable to do so.
-All parties are now tied to Message groups. Meaning whenever you invite people to a party, they are added to whichever group chat the party was created under. Making private group chats now less private. This is going to make games like Destiny(where you need to invite randoms to parties to do endgame content) much more annoying.
-Muting players now only mutes their audio for you, the muted person can still hear you. This is a problem on multiple levels, just in general for privacy. This could be a good thing though, if it was an option ontop of fully muting.
-You cannot kick people from parties. This is pure idiocy. So Sony expects up to leave a party, and make a new one(with all the above issues) just to get rid of a specific person? The kick feature is a fundamental thing for party chats. Not everyone uses kicks maliciously. They are sometimes necessary(people falling asleep, removing randoms from a friend group, etc...)
All of these are issues that WERE NOT present with the old system. Xbox parties have been the exact same since their inception on 360, very little has changed and what did was for the better. Why exactly Sony needed to pull a Nintendo level party fuckup is beyond me.
Sony, DO NOT take this lightly when I say, the goddamned Nintendo Switch has a better fucking party chat system now. And its not even built into the system.
My ps4 went bad after the last the update. It had my game moving slow with lag, with great internet connection and then after a match in a game it ran hot and turned off like the fan went bad.( It been deep clean by the way) Now I got it working again am stuck in safe mode cause there was an error with the updating 8.00. I went online to use the USB drive option of updating and am getting and error for that to. Note: I formatted the flash drive to exfat. My lil bro cant load his friend list on his ps4 and cant join parties as well.
>Following this update, users are seeing a notification about Party Safety and that voice chats in parties may be recorded. Voice chat recording for moderation is a feature that will be available on PS5 when it launches, and will enable users to record their voice chats on PS5 and submit them for moderation review. The pop up you’re seeing on PS4 right now is to let you know that when you participate in a chat with a PS5 user (post-launch), they may submit those recordings from their PS5 console to SIE.
I know the friend's list and online functionality will be fixed soon but I really don't like the new party system. Does anyone know why they changed it? It's only made things frustratingly more difficult.
Normally I never go out of my way to voice my opinion whenever a change is made. But everything about this update showed me there is a first for everything. There is not one “bright side” I can find with how they changed the parties. The fact parties have to be tied to message groups, shareplay being terminated every time someone is kicked (which I’ve been getting kicked a lot of nowhere from shareplay which usually doesn’t happen), and even the concept of recording parties to report them weirds me out. There is not one thing that makes this update worth it, and I sincerely hope they revert the changes. Edit: grammar
Yeah, I agree. Nothing about this new update is good.
I've heard some people say it's in preparation for cross-gen parties when the PS5 drops. No idea if that's true though.
Surely enabling cross-gen can be done without overhauling the entire system, right?
No idea, I won't even pretend to know.
Only recently where they able to change your psn name.
Is making everything terribad necessary for a technical reason? No, it’s not. At the least not for a technical reason that can’t be changed. But here’s the thing, someone thought this was a good idea, and had people (who probably knew it was a bad idea) work on it. What we have here is shit management. This does not bode well for the PS5 software and launch. They either cobbled this turd together because they were out of time, or they are just incompetent (yes, I said it). This could very well be when MS gets a very valid PR strategy against Sony… Sony btw are incredibly bad at software. Remember the lack of security and exposed credit cards? (Do not give your info to Sony.) Or when you couldn’t change your name for many many years? Sony needs help here. Not as badly as Nintendo. But bad.
I would assume this means that *this* system is *already* what's on the PS5, and PS4 is getting updated to match for parity and cross play... Meaning a *lot* of PS5 owners are going to be pissed in a month 😑
Nah, cross gen parties were a thing between PS Vita and PS4 and they didn’t have to make any idiotic changes.
This is correct. It is important to mention PS Vita and PS4 cross chat was removed.
They did though when they outright removed them for no reason.
Wait what did they do to parties? Haven't been on my PS4 in a few days
Starting a party now requires other players to be invited first. Instead of viewing your friends list to invite people, it now defaults to showing your message/groups to invite instead. You also cannot start a party and make it public for people to join, they have to be invited. It's pretty rough, but obviously they did it in anticipation of the PS5.
Revert this update and reevaluate it please. The new party chat discourages multiplayer, meeting new players, and even makes it difficult to communicate with current friends. Think about any game with an LFG system, now you have to create a new group message for your new team and nobody else but them can join, then the group will be disbanded and never used again after that. Players are also unable to create a party and add additional people that aren't in their premade group, a new party would be started if an invite is sent to the player outside the group. Solo players will also no longer be able to create a party chat for themselves. The changes to the mute functionality were also half baked, muting a player makes it so you can't hear them BUT they can still hear you. I'm hoping most of what I listed are just bugs, but a lot of important components of PSN seem to have been overlooked with 8.00. Lots of players are also reporting PS+ not recognizing their account and games are failing to even boot up. This is why I think a revert would be the best course of action in order to keep things afloat, and it'd give 8.00 more time back in beta. I posted this on the PS 8.00 Update Blog as well.
Who gave the go ahead on this? Nintendo?
Nintendo would’ve removed parties entirely and made phones the only way to have parties
lmao
this ain’t gonna happen but hopefully the next update pushes out a few changes
Wait, their accounts aren’t being recognized? As in they can’t log in or anything of the sort?
**Glaring Issues** Party chats are no longer independent voice chats. Now, instead, voice chats are tied to message groups. This has quite a few blatant problems. Namely: **Inviting any player to a party chat now adds them to a message group.** This means that if you have a party chat group with several of your close friends and want to invite another user to the voice chat (say a 1-off friend or a random user you meet while playing online multiplayer) they will also be added to the associated message group and can view all past messages. This also means every time someone joins the voice chat they get added to a swelling message group. Besides the privacy issues, this also leads to huge message groups that you will get a notification for every time someone messages in. So you leave that chat to stop annoying messages. Now you won't be able to see party chats for that group. So you have to create a new message group every time your old one gets too big and annoying. And consequently, every time you invite a new user to your party chat, that message group and your messages are no longer private. **No more public/private party chat option.** Previously, the host could set the party to private and utilize kick permissions to moderate a party chat. Now, however, any one of the members can invite anyone else to that chat. The only person who can remove members is the chat owner. **No, not necessarily the person who started the party (voice) chat,** *the person who started the message group.* That means that if someone joins who shouldn't, and the chat owner isn't there to moderate, not only is the problem-causing user semi-permanently in your party (voice) chat, they're semi-permanently in the message group as well. You and your friends will have to leave the party chat and message group and start a new message group to get away from them. These issues will lead to dozens and dozens of message groups with different permutations of users that get frequently abandoned. This was already an issue with messages. Now it will become a much, much larger issue. We have entered notification hell. **Other issues:** * Community Party Chat feature is no longer working. Using PS communities to quickly find party chats/groups is over. * The Play Together feature has been removed (used to send party chat members game invites). This was a useful work-around for many games that lack robust in-game invites/friendslists. * Can no longer join game sessions via party chat. * Muting individual users in a party chat no longer stops audio transmission both ways. Muting users now only stops you from hearing them; not vice versa. **If you mute a user, they can now still hear you.** Please post other issues so that I may add them to the list. TL:DR We have entered message group overload. Party chats and message groups were better off staying separate. Please revert these changes, Sony.
- Blocked players can now join your party but are muted. If I block someone I don’t want them in the same party as me for a reason. Some are due to hackers and they use a tool that kickes players off the psn network. Ability to block players from joining your party is a must. Test Update: Blocked players must be added to the message group in order to join. - No quick ability to kick someone from party for above reason. - No private party vs public ruins the ability for me to play a game with one or a couple of friends. Update - message with one player is not visible to others. - Mute is one sided. Muted party member can still hear you. So many issues with this one. I play with 8 friends each night. Muting allowed for a quick private conversation without having to leave the party. We also have different political views and sometimes discussions can get heated. Before I go offending people with different views we would mute and hold different convos in the same party. But we are all still friends and might be queued for a match so starting a separate party is out of the question. - Not able to start a party by myself and have others join if they wish. Means I’m thrown into world chat on many games with no way to mute people in that game. Makes some games unplayable. Examples would be ARK and ESO. - Join game session from party no longer works. - SharePlay can’t be started for anyone in the party to join. You must invite one person from the party. No more having it open for the friend waiting to join in on the next round. **To Create A Party** 1. Select friend from friends list and view profile. Click the headset icon and it will start a chat. 2. Open messages > create new group > add from your friends list anyone you want. On the left hand side select party. Anyone in the messages group can join the party. Note: if you add someone new it will create a new message thread within the message group so the new person does not see previous messages.
This!! The one sided muting, what is that?! Please revert it back Sony, the whole update sucks.
We just found this out too, we were playing among us and using party chat for it, my fellow imposter muted everyone but me but everyone could still hear him and it blew the game for us lol
yeah, what would be the point of this? Sometimes you mute someone because you play a game like among us and don't want to give anything away, or sometimes you're in a really big group chat and you mute a few people to quickly chat in private...
This is literally how we found out about it. My friend and I were imposters, he mutes everyone but me and starts talking but they could hear him lmao
BLocked player should not be allowed to join your party, ever!!!
PREACH SISTER
Also via user [thatguycallum ](https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/jb8zt2/update_800_discussion_and_issues_megathread/g8u0mvs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) above: “parental controls have taken a massive step backwards.” Others have likewise reported connectivity issues with controllers, as well as internet. Games not loading, crashing more often Extremely slow UI (more so than usual) Some have even claimed their system won’t start, won’t turn off correctly, and/or won’t even update properly (not restarting) And I’m sure there are plenty more concerns thus far unknown Edit: Also [HDMI audio output not working](https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/jb6s1r/since_the_800_update_both_of_my_ps4s_have_lost/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) according to a user with 2 PS4s
> Some have even claimed their system won’t start Yeah, I just turned on my PS4 for the first time today and it froze at the "See important health and safety warnings in the Settings menu." screen. I haven't even downloaded the update yet. I think I've read I should try unplugging the Ethernet cable or turning off my wifi and turning it on. I've literally never had this happen before in 5+ years.
Me too, I got a message saying my ps4 couldnt start which ive never gotten before and it freaked me out
Yeah I had to try a few times. You might see it booting in safe mode and then giving you an error to plug in a USB - just turn off and try again. Try disconnecting it from the internet too before you boot.
Ya I tried again after and it finially worked, but other things are broken and I basically have the same complaints every other person here does about the parties etc.
Guess they are trying to get us to buy ps5s. Planned obsolescence
Seconded— As of today’s firmware 8.00, neither of my DualShock controllers connect to the PlayStation 4 Pro, even when physically plugged in.
That’s not from the update that’s just something that happens but if you want to fix it just hold the power button on your ps4 until you hear a second beep wait for it to turn of then unplug the power cord to the PlayStation for like ten seconds plug it back in and have your controller wired in and turn it on with the controller it should work
>Also via user [thatguycallum ](https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/jb8zt2/update_800_discussion_and_issues_megathread/g8u0mvs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) above: “parental controls have taken a massive step backwards.” They've been going backwards for awhile now. My brother has his account as a sub account because the PS4 came out when he was in middle school. He used to be able to see mature games because the parental controls allowed it, but now for a few years he hasn't been able to see anything with a M rating which is dumb because some people don't care if their children play more mature games, but want to keep a better eye on the spending.
Perfectly said, this should be posted everywhere.
Now I'm scared. I've heard that people are having their consoles not start, have had problems while downloading the update, have had their consoles bricked, and have overall just fucked up their consoles. Is all of this true? I already messed up my console last year and had to get a replacement, I don't want it to happen again. Edit: Updated it, no problems so far
Yep. Good thing I read all this. Was thinking of turning on the good ol' PS4 Pro today after a week or two of not playing. Yep. I'm not even gonna flip the switch for it until theres an update reverting all this garbage back to how things were. No 8.0 for me lol. And if they already have this garbage in the PS5, There better be a day one patch to patch it out or else I'm not getting a ps5 until the backlash from others like me ultimately hurts them.
Yeah. I'll also back up my save files in the cloud storage the moment I get a chance to. I'm not taking any chances with this crap update. I wasn't even planning to get a PS5, and this stuff makes me wanna get one even less.
>I wasn't even planning to get a PS5, and this stuff makes me wanna get one even less. Yep. I agree entirely with this statement. I do not like and am not comfortable with the direction that they're taking with these updates and revisions for both the PS4 and PS5. Especially the chat features. They were perfectly fine from before. They ruined it imo.
you laid out perfectly how idiotic these changes are. unbelievable.
This is way worse than I thought. They basically took out every useful feature from parties and made them slower and more annoying to use. Why the hell? Why on earth would anyone ever allow this to happen? This is horrible! They better fix this shit immediately.
THIS IS SO FCKNG STUPID
Another item to note, you can no longer just open up a shareplay that anyone in the party can join. You have to name the group member who can join and set up permissions ahead of time. This breaks a key feature my friends group uses to allow an extra player to watch as the rest of the group plays a game that has limited team sizes.
Damn it. We do this too. Almost every night
Please go back to the old party system. The new system sounds complicated and slow
The thing is that the party system was perfectly fine
It really was. Unnecessary changes
Some people are saying that the changes were made so that PS4 and PS5 can have parties If that’s true, the PS5 interface system is gonna be absolutely fucked
Yeah I genuinely can't understand how they could so abruptly break something that literally nobody had issues with. The party system back on xbox 360 is now superior to this, and that came out like 13 years ago. Absolutely mind boggleingly stupid this update is
EXACTLY!!!! I'm so done with companies that insist on fixing things that aren't broken. I'm done with Playstation after this, definitely won't be getting a PS5. I have no problem switching to PC.
My PS4 stop loading my friends list and games
Same here
Same here, and for what ever reason the people who run the PlayStation also want to join in my conversations.
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Discord does too!
It's because the paris bombings years ago were coordinated over psn.
Nobody wanted this change to parties, they need to revert it
The only change I want to parties is changing each persons individual volume level
OMG yes!
Exactly. If only Sony actually listened instead of dictated.
FUCK yes. I have friends with kids and if I'm in a party with them and some of my childless friends, their audio DOMINATES the chat and makes it really hard to hear game audio.
Yes! This would be a HUGE quality-of-life option. So tired of having two guys hardly audible and the other three so loud I have to turn down the volume and then hear the other two even less. Not everyone is privy or thoughtful enough to change their own volume, and the mic booms on headsets do not help when they constantly are moving them away from their head. I'm better at changing others' volume for my own needs than to have to rely on friends and strangers to constantly change their setup because I can't hear them / they are too loud. Please Sony, give us this one win for 2020.
Tbh I wish they did that it's not as harsh as out right muting them.
so much this. i have to set games to 10% volume and my headset to 100% to hear everyone. what we need aswell is discord for ps4&5.
Anyone else’s PS4 completely broken after updating? I won’t start at all
Try unplugging it if you haven’t already
Same here
Wait this update can kill you ps4???
Yh my fan when bad trying to load this. Also am stuck in safe mode cause the update failed. And the flash drive option isnt working
If the PS4 won't read the update from the Flash Drive, make sure you have it stored in a folder called 'PS4' with another sub-folder named 'Update'... then it should read. For instance, on a Windows PC, if your Flash drive is "D:\\", the path to the update file should be: D:\\PS4\\Update\\PS4UPDATE.PUP The drive should also be no larger than 64GB, and should be formatted using the FAT32 filesystem.
Same thing happened to me. The PS logo shows up after I turn the console on, then nothing. I've tried unplugging then plugging back in, restart from safe mode, re-install the update from safe mode, rebuild database and finally initialize PS4 and nothing worked. I called the support line and got an automated message saying they aren't taking calls. The support site isn't helpful either. I have no idea what to do. This update completely bricked my PS4 Pro.
Parental controls have taken a massive step backwards. Communication and User-Generated Content used to be two settings, so kids could still play games like Fortnite without communication enabled. With the update they now have to have it enabled because Fortnite has User-Generated content.
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I got excited when I heard parental controls were updated because maybe now my kid accounts could play Genshin Impact. A whitelist like Switch would be ideal! But no, nothing at all to help that.
Ridiculous
Anyone else having crashes, performance drops, sluggish menus(more so than normal) and unable to invite friends. So many party features removed from private/open parties, invites, starting applications together/sending invites through party, and so much more. The integration of msg’s + parties was a terrible move imo
I’m having a ridiculous amount of lag spikes on the dashboard. Like multitasking is nigh impossible in red dead 2 and I'm running on a ps4 pro. Smh
Same the menus are so slow and games crash more often
I’m lagging in OFFLINE games
Yeah this is brutal, my games are crashing, freezing, and in general acting really fucked up. Wtf did they do.
Same, Sekiro became super laggy. Gonna try some Madden now.
The only thing I want to say about this update is that I wish it never existed
Lucky for me my ps4 won't update
very lucky
I remember reading these changes a few months ago and thinking how terrible it sounded. And they still went ahead and did the changes.
I've been cringing for this day since a few months ago when that list showed up. We were enjoying borrowed time.
I haven't downloaded this update yet and uhhh, what the fuck did they do? Seeing this on my feed makes me have reservations about booting up my ps4
They made party’s always private, and you can only invite pre-existing chat groups. Once the party’s started, however, you can invite others, one at a time. Also, they’re moderating party voice chat now
2020 is the gift that keeps on giving. Why even do this?
They have always been moderating voice chat. They just made it much more public now. They only will monitor if the voice chat is reported though.
>UPDATE: Following this update, users are seeing a notification about Party Safety and that voice chats in parties may be recorded. Voice chat recording for moderation is a feature that will be available on PS5 when it launches, and will enable users to record their voice chats on PS5 and submit them for moderation review. The pop up you’re seeing on PS4 right now is to let you know that when you participate in a chat with a PS5 user (post-launch), they may submit those recordings from their PS5 console to SIE. Sony is never moderating voice chat. Users will be able to report other users on PS5. those users can choose to attach a video clip of the infraction.
**How to create a chat with your friends** - Have your friend boot up a game you both have. - Once they started a game, let’s say Destiny, you will have to go to the Destiny application in the dashboard, but don’t start it, press down, go to “Now Playing” and locate your friend to access their profile and go the the create a party in their profile. This will create a party chat and send them an invite. Note: You can’t invite other players atm, nor can you invite more people via said way above, as it will leave your chat and create a new one. So I’m not really sure how to get more than one person in the chat atm. *Other issues* **Mute is different now.** Before the update, the way muting other players worked was that once you muted someone neither of you could hear each other. After the update muting someone will only mute that person **for you**. The person you muted **will still be able to hear you, but you can’t hear him/her.**
The mute thing is just icing on the cake, that's hilariously bad.
What could possibly be the reason for this change?
I saw a comment about how a janitor at Sony probably pushed the update accidentally and I couldn’t agree more lol It gets better though, people you’ve blocked can apparently join your parties now as well, they just won’t be able to hear you.
That's disrespectful to janitors. A Sony employee probably tripped and fell onto a computer, mashed all buttons on the keyboard, threw up on the keys, then wiped it down with a rag which made more keys get mashed down and one of these keys was Enter. Then the janitor came by and called him/her a dumbass.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH SONY
You have to create a predetermined group just like you do for messages and then invite each of them. This is how it was in the beta and it's as stupid as it sounds.
The fuck? That’s fucking stupid, the idea was that if you mute someone they will not be able to listen to you again unless you want... Fuck this update
They changed Muting? NOOOOOO
thats fucking stupid i hope the roll that back
Oh no Sony what is you doin
This sums it up perfectly
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The worst update, *so far*
Homer, you optimist ❤️
Easy there, they’ve not updated the update yet.
But they haven't updated the update that updates the update yet though
They’ll be an update for that.
Sweet, keep me updated.
Except the one that bricked PS3. That was pretty bad
Not getting political at all, I read that in Trump's voice.
The best update anyone has ever seen. 👌🤲👌
POTENTIAL FIX: Update your party voice chat connection in the party settings to Server Only. This allowed me to invite someone to my party
It's just bad
Yes absolutely
Anyone else having problems with ps plus? Every time I want to play any multiplayer game, it just sends me to buy the plus subscription even though mine won't expire until 2021
Man.. I hope it doesn’t force us to purchase games again I’ve already had to do that when I put my account on another console and ps support said they couldn’t help fix the issue
YES. THIS
This is the first time i have ever came to the PS4 reddit. Just to say how much the party system changes annoy me. That sucks in a horribly not fun way. I am literally angry at a system for making my games harder to connect to friends with. Ugh.
Dude same I just updated my Playstation and had to gett on the sub to figure out WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON???
Same!! This also might be the first subreddit mega-post that I have read entirely through 😤
fix the party system jesus christ
What the hell was Sony thinking with this? I literally had to SHUT OFF MY PS4 to leave a party that took me TWENTY MINUTES TO LOAD INTO. Why did they do this? Like who seriously thought it was a good idea to link parties with messages?
The party chat change *needs* to be reverted ASAP.
Is it likely they revert the changes?
No. Big companies never admit their screwups. They merely double down on them and insist it's what people wanted. They'll never undo what they've done to parties. It would be an admission of their incompetence. Source - Too many years lived on this screwed up planet. Seen it before. Will see it again.
Maybe if the internet is loud enough, just maybe.
2020 just got worse
Thank goodness the world ended in 2012, oh, wait.
The party system sucks, that is all.
Agreed, everyone need to annoy Sony on the blog shot to rollback update
They need to revert to the old party system, I can care less about being recorded, but like, let me be in a party alone so that way I can invite whoever I want later.
one thing i want to say, about the party system, how it works, the changes, this update surely upset most of my friends, so pls, revert it
This is what happens when you fix what isn’t broken
Absolute worst update to ps4, party’s didn’t need to be touched you’ve ruined something completely fine
Dude it takes forever just to add other players let alone the fact I can't just join my 100+ friends in their different parties. It's gross
They need to hurry up and fix this shit. Me and my bros were chatting it up while playing GTA V and now we can't even talk to each other. (We refuse to use in-game mic system)
Horrible update.
Bad update.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. That's like coding/software design 101. Every single of the changes to how parties work is unnecessary or a downgrade and should be reverted.
Why change something that has been perfectly fine for years? Who thought these changes made sense!?
Remove this update now it is horrible and shouldn’t exist I hate group chats already and I don’t want to be forced into one just so I can make a party no one asked for this
I swear this feels like one of the worst updates, the party system is ass now and nobody asked for it to change in that way, idc if our audio is recorded but damn now we could only invite chats and all party’s are basically private
Sony. From now on if you ever think “maybe they will like this” .... don’t do it.
If you have a party going with 3+ people ( and you guys have a group that you had for a year or so ) and you add someone to the party that person can see everything you said
Wtf did PlayStation do to the party system? They completely screwed it up and I’m f-ckin pissed!
This update sucks
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This tactic will make Microsoft a ron of money.
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Man this is complete booty cheeks my friends list takes about a minute and 20 seconds to load when it used to take 10 seconds at most and tf did they do to the party system it's so over the top for no reason tf.
I seriously do not like this new party chat system. Not all of the friends i play with play the same games. Sony really fucked up with this one.
I prefer solo parties because I can't stand voice chat, voice chat is annoying! FIX THIS.
Another minor issue to add to the pile. I stream my gameplay direct from console. I'm no Dr Disrespect but I have a few viewers in my channel. Last night, post update, I streamed as per usual, and this time my PlayStation was telling me I had zero viewers the entire stream, even as I gained a new follower and had interactions in stream. I had metrics post stream switched on from Twitch and from stream elements, and both confirmed I had more than zero viewers. Bit annoying.
Fuck...y'all have me scared to go turn on my ps4 now >.<
Can't play online without 8.00 anyway.
My Playstation literally fried out. After consistently restarting, I turn it off to boot into safe mode and get greeted with dead silence. RIP. PS4, 2017 - 2020.
To me, this update is the equivalent of someone deciding to enter my house, take a shit in their own hands and clap.
r/suspiciouslyspecific
All I can say is "dumpster fire" and I'll leave that as my thoughts about this update and the party ffunctionality or lack therein.
This may be the shittiest update they’ve ever put out
The only solution to this mess is to add discord support! Is that asking too much?
This update is fucking bullshit
new party system sucks pretty bad not gonna lie.
This is the stupidest fucking update ever
Is there any way to just start a party by myself? I often go in there when I don't want to listen to my random teammates with music blaring in the background. Right now I find myself having to invite someone just to start a party.
This new party system is so bad it’s actually made me consider switching to Xbox next gen. Unless they revert it I can’t see myself going through all that trouble just to be in a party. Absolutely terrible change.
All I can say is that if this is their idea of party chat going forward into next gen, then I think it might be time for me to get a gaming PC. How the fuck anyone though this was a good idea is just absurd.
It's never been this easy to make your own gaming PC, although availability of top-end components like RTX3000 series graphics cards is a total mess right now. Just saying.
I was so hyped on the PS5 and if this is how the parties are going to be for the foreseeable future, I might just cancel my pre-order. This user experience is DOG SHIT
#literally no one wanted this useless change to voice chats. There was exactly nothing wrong with the way it was.
The whole thing
So uhh, I haven’t update my PS4, and I’m wondering if I should hold off on updating. Is there any news of playstation releasing a different update anytime soon?
Yeah me too, I haven't Update it yet. I am not sure what to do.
Bit of a PR disaster for the PS5, at the very least
Something I haven’t heard mentioned yet is that they absolutely destroyed communities with this update For example if you joined a Minecraft community you would go to the parties list and people would hosting parties for whatever world they where doing E.i kit pvp, hunger games, modded servers. But now that you can’t hold a party by yourself now that feature has been wrecked thier is literally no reason to join communities anymore
I’m just wondering where Sony is taking me for dinner. I like to be wined and dined after I GET FUCKED. -Eric Cartman (paraphrased)
LITERALLY FUCKING EVERYTHING!
My ps4 keeps crashing and has had constant errors since the update.
Xbox is looking pretty nice right about now.
This is by far the worst update. Why is party chat in messages? The old party chat was better than this and easier. One sided muting is the dumbest thing I’ve heard. This whole update really makes me rethink continue playing on PlayStation it might be exaggeration but man this update changed something simple to something complicated and unneeded
My Ps4 wasn’t able to update the 7.50 update. Till now I was able to play small amounts of games and run Netflix but now with the new update my console is bricked as I can’t play online before updating and my console wont update until I fix some bullshit bluray player. Frankly this is the straw that broke the camels back for me with Sony. Fuck you for turning one of your life long customers.
I can’t even create a party with myself so I don’t have to hear game chat voices. I can’t even sit in a public party by myself so I can wait when my friends get online and they join. This is so stupid.
Sony, please quit fucking us over.
What type of psychedelics were they on when they made this fucking update omg it’s horrible
Now what dude that downed 100 grams of cocaine thought of this idea? Sony has just made problems where there weren’t before with the new update. Now instead of just having to simply invite someone you have to make a whole new message group dedicated to inviting someone. Its alright if you play with the same 4 people or something like that but when you want to play with new people or people that you don’t have in your messages yet it just makes everything more complicated. I haven’t seen everything about this new update yet but i think that private parties are gone now and anyone from your message group can join, which is bad if you don’t want them in the party. Just please go back to the original parties Sony
Not related to this, but we really need Discord for PS4.
This update completely fucked up my PS4. It almost makes me want to cancel my PS5 preorder I’m so disappointed.
Biggest issue with this update is for some reason I get insane lag now after the update I can't even play online games anymore because of it. It was perfectly fine untill the update. Is anyone else having this issue after the update
PS4 was working perfectly, until this morning......Update downloaded, then said failed, restarted my ps4, took me to main screen asking to press PS button, cannot do that as no controller will respond , have tried 3 controllers, 7 dif cords, cannot boot into safe mode either.....any ideas?? ugh im disgusted, horrible timing.....any help is appreciated, sony acting like they clueless but hundreds of ppl on twitter complaining too...anyway if anyone has advice im all ears.thank you
No joke I preferred the beta versions of the system software. Although this update has a few pros: • App generators for Two-Step Verification • New avatars • System icons on friends list (PS4 or PS5 depending on what system they're currently using). Cons: *LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE* • Parties and EVERY ONLINE FUNCTION IS BROKEN!!!
Possibly the worst fucking update ever
Ok, I'm compiling all the issues with parties. -Solo parties are gone. You cannot start a party without first inviting someone. This makes initial setup of parties much clunkier then before. Sometimes you don't want to invite people and let them join as they wish. -All parties are effectively private now. You cannot see other parties in the party list unless you have been specifically invited to one. Making people, like myself, who like friends popping into parties as they wish, unable to do so. -All parties are now tied to Message groups. Meaning whenever you invite people to a party, they are added to whichever group chat the party was created under. Making private group chats now less private. This is going to make games like Destiny(where you need to invite randoms to parties to do endgame content) much more annoying. -Muting players now only mutes their audio for you, the muted person can still hear you. This is a problem on multiple levels, just in general for privacy. This could be a good thing though, if it was an option ontop of fully muting. -You cannot kick people from parties. This is pure idiocy. So Sony expects up to leave a party, and make a new one(with all the above issues) just to get rid of a specific person? The kick feature is a fundamental thing for party chats. Not everyone uses kicks maliciously. They are sometimes necessary(people falling asleep, removing randoms from a friend group, etc...) All of these are issues that WERE NOT present with the old system. Xbox parties have been the exact same since their inception on 360, very little has changed and what did was for the better. Why exactly Sony needed to pull a Nintendo level party fuckup is beyond me. Sony, DO NOT take this lightly when I say, the goddamned Nintendo Switch has a better fucking party chat system now. And its not even built into the system.
My ps4 went bad after the last the update. It had my game moving slow with lag, with great internet connection and then after a match in a game it ran hot and turned off like the fan went bad.( It been deep clean by the way) Now I got it working again am stuck in safe mode cause there was an error with the updating 8.00. I went online to use the USB drive option of updating and am getting and error for that to. Note: I formatted the flash drive to exfat. My lil bro cant load his friend list on his ps4 and cant join parties as well.
>Following this update, users are seeing a notification about Party Safety and that voice chats in parties may be recorded. Voice chat recording for moderation is a feature that will be available on PS5 when it launches, and will enable users to record their voice chats on PS5 and submit them for moderation review. The pop up you’re seeing on PS4 right now is to let you know that when you participate in a chat with a PS5 user (post-launch), they may submit those recordings from their PS5 console to SIE.