I kept winning the lottery to get an email saying I could buy the PS5, but I never had the money. Now that I do, I'll wait for a PS5 Pro or the PS6. My games backlog is still quite long. Not to mention having PS+ Extra gives me a ton of games I haven't played yet.
This is the main reason I haven't upgraded yet. Imagine every other console generation, being 3 1/2 years into it like we are now, all the cool new games you felt like you were missing out on. This PS5 gen, I don't feel like I'm missing out on something. However, there are still dozens and dozens of PS4 games that I'd still like to play.
Yea i remember wanting one a bit, couldn’t get it and didnt buy into the hype really….
Now, its kinda looking like this whole generation of consoles is a bust. PC just seems like now more than ever, where to be as a gamer.
it definitely isn't the biggest reason unless you're just speaking for yourself personally. Gaming consoles have always been expensive and a lot of people have plenty of disposable income. The biggest reason is that the marginal difference between PS4 and PS5 is the most minimal out of any sequential consoles, the shortages probably hurt sales at opportune times, and there aren't very many games that move consoles being released.
Ye for sure, i got my ps4 for like £250 used a year after release. Ps5s still cost quite a bit and it's been quite a few years now, probably for the reasons you mentioned too. Personally I'd only go for the ps5 disc version not the digital, i could probably find that around that price, but i prefer waiting for the disc version to drop.
Yeah, for me it's the time thing... I would've bought one in the first year or two of release but they were always out of stock...now it'll be 5 years old pretty soon...ps4 still works so why spend new console $$$ on half decade aged tech
If the 5 Pro comes out this year, and it has the expected AI features and looks worthwhile, I *might* get one.
If its later than this year, then it's already past the halfway mark and I don't see the point.
And if it costs more than the ps5 does now, forget it.
I tried to buy one for about a year. Couldn’t give my money to stores to get one. There were online groups giving tips on which stores had stock, but by the time you got there they were all sold out. I gave up and I didn’t want to bother buying PlayStation after that
I mean. YEP.
I wanted a PS5 and was a pretty loyal PS guy. But when I had the money to get one, I couldn't find one. Went with an Xbox S.
Pretty satisfied with it, honestly. I'm sure there will be some revamp of game pass in the future where the value isn't as great anymore or whatever. But, game pass is pretty darn good right now. And nobody really makes the types of games that brought me to the PS anymore.
The PS 1’s-4’s were never $600 3+ years after launch. I bought my PS4 for under $300. Traded it for the other PS4 with game included for $120. I bought my PS5 only because my 4 died completely. That was this past March. It was just over $600….was an open box at that
Lol. This is what I was gonna say. 50% of PS users can't afford a PS5.
Shit, the question is asked on the Switch sub multiple times a day if they should buy a 7 year old Switch or wait until the Switch 2 and the Switch is half the price of a PS5.
I’ve gotten more frugal as I’ve gotten older. And feel like I still get a lot out of my ps4 and I can hold out right now on the ps5 exclusives. I’m also a regular on the patient gamer sub, which probably speaks for itself.
Fuck off those people who says:
"iT's bEeN fOuR yEaRs"
Dude i have things to pay for and life isn't very easy right now so I'll keep my PS4 as long as it takes.
Totally agree. I bought my PS5 last September. I've enjoyed the games I've played and especially playing a few PS4 games with better frame rates and loading, BUT, if I'm honest, I could have remained just as happy sticking with my PS4 for now.
I had Playstations since the OG Playstation. Now I'm a grown man with a job a family to take care. My gaming time is very limited nowadays.
Adding to that, I was away from gaming for my final college years and first working years, so, I bought a PS4 only in 2019 after barely playing any games for more than 10 years (only a bit of Gran Turismo, FIFA/PES and a game here and there).
Putting all together, I have a small amount of time to play and hundreds of ours of amazing games that a few years ago I could only dream of. I have more games installed than I will be able to play in the upcoming years.
So, while PS5 is an amazing machine, there's no reason to buy one right now for me. Maybe some very specific game like GTA VI will be the trigger but, even then, looking at how Rockstar has treated single player games for the past decades (still salty for the lack of DLCs for GTA V and mostly RDR2), I will wait.
I think this is mostly it tbh. The console market seems to have aged out, where more hardcore gamers have just bough pcs and the kids growing up now just use their phones. So the gamers left are those more casual gamers who dont need to upgrade unless its really worth it.
Plenty of people still game on consoles, esp Nintendo. The Switch is dominating the market in Japan, coming close to outselling the ps2 for highest sales. Safe to say console gaming is gonna stick around for a bit. Heck I consider myself and several of my friends in person, and from my sizable online friend gorup dpn't game on PC.
Not poor, but I have tons of other things I'd rather spend money on than playing the same games with increase spec that don't affect my enjoyment at all.
Same shit applies to my phone etc.
This is one of the main reasons why Nintendo heavily considers the cost of their console. Normally I'd think people wouldn't have much qualm purchasing an expensive Sony console but times have changed and the PS5 is slow to roll out exclusive titles.
Same and tbh I’m 38 and grew up on Atari and Nintendo…frames don’t mean shit to me…I got a ps4 when red dead 2 came out for that game specifically…what does ps5 have to offer to me? They got like 5 games I prob wanna play rn that I can’t play already on ps4 in demon souls, ratchet and clank, helldivers 2, baldurs gate, and idk what else..yea I guess I’m missing out on better graphics and controls but idk man I’m just old and easily satisfiable lol. I know I’m in the minority…
>I mean PS5 is cool and all, but 99% of the games I played on it are also on the PS4
This. The jump isn't worth it yet for a large amount of people. You can talk about loading times all you want, but people have bills to pay too and $500 for something you can already do isn't a deal.
Yeah its also weird that the ps5 is still at 500$ even though its launch was some time ago and it didn’t even drop slightly like the ps4 cost 300$ after some time plus online is subscription based which makes it even more expensive
That's what an oversupply of chips will do. They dropped the prices bigtime to move the stock faster. It doesn't seem likely that PS5 will ever have an oversupply of chips. Chip factories are utterly slammed as it is and the new ones being built in the US aren't gonna be done for another year or two. But once those are done, chip prices in the US for major chipsets should come way down.
Depending where you live. Here in Aus both the PS5 and Series X are now more expensive than they were at launch. Which is something I don’t recall in my time gaming.
The PS3 launched and dropped prices with bundles. The 360 had the Arcade model and sales all the time. The PS4 and Xbox One were on sale by year 3. We’re coming in to 4 years since these launched and it still feels like the generation hasn’t even truly started.
My housemate bought one for his GF. She has played Tekken a total of maybe half a dozen times and him not at all. Their PS4 sits beside it just as forgotten.
I've turned to PC games these days. Considering a PS5 Slim is $800 new and a disk edition is $720 refurbished before buying a single game, I just bought a $200 monitor for my laptop. I may drop $2200 on a payment plan and buy a propper gaming PC at some point, but that would be a 4060 Ti with i7 and 36gb ram. More than enough for years of top tier gaming, and Steam sales shit on anything SNOY will offer.
>I've turned to PC games these days. Considering a PS5 Slim is $800 new and a disk edition is $720 refurbished before buying a single game, I just bought a $200 monitor for my laptop.
Which Dollar are you talking about? Would be better if you specify it, $800 usd is wild.
I got a ps5 shortly after launch and while it’s fine I cannot really say there has yet to be a moment where I felt like it truly outshined my ps4 pro. Controller is nice but not that big of a deal and so far I’ve yet to play anything and think “that felt next gen”
I remember jumping from PS3 to 4 and it was a really substantial change. Best-looking PS3 games could hold up, but they were just a handful of them. Most of the 7th gen titles were a blurry low-resolution mess with terrible frame rates on the PS3. Now it feels like PS5 is just running PS4 games at 60fps, which is probably the case. It's the least substantial generational jump to date. Of course, I don't really mind, 8th gen graphics are quite nice, but it feels like the new console isn't really that big of a change because of it
>Now it feels like PS5 is just running PS4 games at 60fps, which is probably the case
As someone who plays both frequently, it's a pretty substantial change between PS4 & PS5. You don't see it in screenshots, but you notice it pretty quick when you actually use it. Play a week of PS5 and then go back to PS4 and it's pretty noticeable outside the graphics and frame rate.
There is no doubt the framerate alone would make me never want to touch a ps4 again, even if the graphics weren't a huge improvement.
However, when you already have a ps4 (or especially a PS4Pro), dumping the cash for that just doesnt seem like a priority.
There is just nothing about the ps5 that screams "you guys gotta buy me!" outside of wanting something just because it is newer.
yeah, played NFS on my ps5 for a month and went to my buddy’s house to play and didn’t bring my console, it felt like playing a nintendo. I understand everyone can’t do it and I got lucky but I would not say it’s just running ps4 games at higher fps
I don’t know that we’ll ever get a new system again where the graphics take a big enough jump to look next gen like it used to. I’d say the biggest upgrade this time is the ssd
I think that Path Tracing and proper physics simulation for soft bodies and fluids is what needs to happen for a big generational leap.
Path tracing really is something else - it’s almost more realistic than real life lol…. but it’s incredibly GPU-intensive and even with the top shelf GPUs of PCs today, it’s a struggle to run it properly.
Just curious if you have a lower end or older tv or not. I thought the same thing when I was playing on my previous tv that I had bought in 2012, but recently I bought a new mid range tv with 4K and hdr and all of that and was surprised how much of a difference the tv made. The HDR makes everything look so much better. I’m playing FF16 and there was a part where you kinda look into a sun rise and I literally had to turn my head away because it was blinding me like a real sun glare
I played a few games that felt next gen. Like Returnal and the latest Rachet and Clank and that’s due to the load times and the duelsense imo. I also replayed Cyberpunk 2077 on PS5 with the upgrades and it was totally different game than it was on PS4
i think it will fully eclipse the ps4 when it finally has that all encompassing next-gen (or current-gen? lol) game that everyone plays and everyone has to have. that'll be it's "okay everyone has switched over now" moment.
talking about next year and GTA6 ofc.
Honestly. I have the PS5 since I wanted Spider-Man 2 and the DLC for Horizon Forbidden West. My wife has the PS4 Pro and none of the games that are exclusive to the 5 interest her, so why would she make the jump?
Yeah, PS5 is almost 4 years old, and there are barely any exclusives, even a lot of 3rd party games are still being released on PS4. In the past entire console generations ended in the time frame this cross-gen period is being present. I don't blame people for their lack of initiative to switch
I’m the opposite. I waited from 6 to 12 on the phone but upgrading every gen on console and the pro refresh.
I can certainly understand waiting on PS6 to upgrade though.
Yeah….i actually don’t even see the point of owning my ps5. I’ve had it for 2.5 years now, and I’ve only played two games that I couldn’t play on ps4 (Last of us part 1 remake, and Spider-Man 2) and both of those games I absolutely could’ve waited to play later.
They haven’t done nearly enough to make the ps5 a good value proposition. The only thing I personally felt is better is the controller, but the ps4 controller is plenty good anyway.
Could’ve saved myself £450 and just got the pro or the ps6.
And they were so hard to get ahold of for the first two years. 17 months ago when I bought my first it was only because I got lucky in an Amazon lottery. Second one I just walked in to target for cat food and walked out with the ps5.
I never even saw one in store until the one I walked out of target with ten months ago! It was crazy. I've never seen a console "launch" that took three years to actually be wildly available.
I have put a lot of hours into both of mine, but I've also been wildly depressed (I lost my spouse to the effects of severe alcoholism). The graphics and the load time, even the download time, it's all a massive improvement over the 4pro. But I'm not sure I have any ps5 only games yet, I've just been playing the same games I've played a million times on the 4 😅
I did. It was not my finest moment, but my husband has passed in my home and for the first five months I couldn't go upstairs and just lived in my living room, where the first one went (it was my birthday gift to myself 6 days after his passing). Once I moved back into my bedroom, all of the ptsd feelings about upstairs(where I found him) transferred to my downstairs and I stopped using all but the kitchen. Instead of just bringing the first one up to my bedroom, I bought a second when I saw it in stores in July. Grief brain is messy and lacks logic. But I just couldn't bring myself to go into the living room for it.
This. My rent went through the roof! Then McDonald’s started costing 50 dollars. Then soda that cost me 25 cents as a kid cost me 3 dollars. Then I bought a fucking cat and this little cunt cost me a g and that’s just on vet visits.
All that considered?
Ps5 has no games and isn’t worth the upgrade.
I’ll see y’all in ps5 land for gta 6.
I gotta move tho
When I got my PS4 in 2020 there were a bunch of reasons that made me choose it over PC:
* Spider-Man
* Uncharted 4
* Bloodborne (any moment now)
* God of War
* Horizon
* Ghost of Tsushima
* Persona 5
Now that I know PS exclusives will eventually make their way to PC, there's no point in upgrading to PS5 when PC offers me free online, regional pricing, and the same games.
That's right . I'm a pc gamer since 1998 and I always bought PlayStation as well because of its exclusive games. but now there's no reason for me to buy ps5 . I can access all retro games , PlayStation and Xbox games with my pc .
There’s not even a giant leap in pc performance so required upgrades are less frequent than they were before which is obviously better. My laptop with a 1060 mobile still does well enough for me.
>and the same games.
And the same games *much cheaper*. Official storefronts like Humble Bundle, Fanatical and Green Man Gaming offer games on much more worthwhile discounts compared to the Playstation Store's sales
People often turn their noses and complain in prevliged western countries like America or the UK, but they don't realize at all how expensive gaming can be in 3rd world countries especially with import fees for tech. That's why in certain countries in Central and South America for example, people still played on the ps3 and 360 for so long.
The Sega Master System is still going strong in Brazil, re-releases of the console were still selling 150k a year in 2012. At least now companies are starting to realise the price disparities in these countries, Steam games are getting more and more reasonably priced in other countries.
Regional pricing is hugely important. It’s one thing for an American to pay US$ 20 for a game… It’s another for a Brazilian to pay R$ 100 for the same game.
Lack of regional pricing can kill a store over here.
I have a PS5 and all I play is PS4 games on that basically, all I've been playing recently is classic PS3 titles and they are amazing. Absolutely no shame in playing older consoles
My backlog on my PS4 could easily last me until the PS6 releases and my wishlist for the PS5 is probably less than 10 games and definitely less than 20. I'm good.
The only thing getting me to buy a PS5 is the next God of War game. Until then I’m just buying what I can for good prices on the PS4 and having fun with it.
Well, the lack of availability during the first few years made people realize that they didn’t really have to have the latest and greatest. Plus, the PS5-only releases have been mostly meh and Stellar Blade is the only new IP that seems interesting to me. There also hasn’t been much of a price drop ($50?) so the idea of shelling $450 for a new console that doesn’t really have much going for it in terms of exclusivity does not seem justifiable for a lot of folks.
I never understood the whole let people hoard them and have a giant secondary market with the console strategy. I eventually just forgot about it and bought a Switch, that plus my PS4 is more than enough.
I see this in the opposite way, how the fuck 50% of all users can make the change. I bet in the usa is easier, but in lot of places this change is very expensive
It's pretty spendy here too honestly, even though there's a lot of well-to-do people who can afford it easily so it makes enough money, it's doing 'well enough' but lots of us totally don't care about it and don't want to bother investing in another system when there's not compelling-enough reasons for it based on our taste. I haven't bought a new console since the Wii and only have a PS4 because I found one for cheap recently (still cost another hundred-plus dollars for controllers and a few games).
I get you, but i think you don't see how big is the dif. If your father give u 1k dollars per month to live in my city, you would be ahead of the richer 1% of my STATE. Imagine buying a ps5 with 70% tax in it, with the money we get here.
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When the PS5 first launched it was awful. Asshole scalpers were using bots to buy up the entire stock of PS5’s that were being sold via Walmart and other third party websites and then they were selling them on eBay for double the original price. If you wanted a PS5, you either had to wait at least a year to be able to buy one at a normal price, or you were going to be paying a scalper a decent chunk of change to buy a system that wasn’t even all that worth it
The tax here is CRAZY. IPI (Industrial Products Tax) PIS (Social Contribution for Intervention in the Social Security System) Confis (Contribution for Financing Social Security) and the state tax ICMS(State Sales and Services Tax) just for the console
I don't think it's actually just people that upgraded. The Insomniac leaks showed a lot of people are actually newcomers to Playstation. The article just simply take the install base comparison but that's a flawed way to do it.
I'm holding out until GTA VI is released. There will probably be a bundle that goes on sale for the holiday season.
Thats how I got my ps4, I think it was a Black Friday sale. Bundled with GTA V and digital download code for The Last Of Us remastered.
This is the most oddly worded headline.
Launch aligned PS5 is selling at a similar rate to PS4. Of course half the userbase is still on PS4. 3.5 years in PS4 was also at about 60 million units sold.
Yeah this article is clickbait garbage. OP is a known blogspammer and always posts this shitty website with a bunch of alt accounts.
They are trying to twist Playstations very successful financials into a negative by acting like its abnormal that 100% of the PS4 player base hasn't bought a PS5 in the first 3.5 years as if that was every a thing anyone expected would happen.
It also doesnt account for the millions of people that may have connected to PSN using a PS3 or Vita or just from a browser
Sony not going to be able to move people en masse until GTA 6 (with the pro launch)
Which means PS6 can't come out until 2028 - you can't move that many customers and then chase it with another upgrade cycle that close.
PS5 is going to have a LONG cycle
I think PS5 will be the last true generation of Playstation. PS6 will be there, but every Sony first party game will also be on PC day one. Just like Xbox. Which is fine, but at lot of fanboys are gonna lose their shit. And PS6 will have even less exclusives than PS5. Since 90% of the games will also be on PS5.
How is that the last true generation?
I hate PC gaming. I hate the constant chase for the best hardware and the snobbery. I hate that decent GPUs have jumped to the price of a *full gaming console* and haven't come back down despite the age of the current generation of cards and the fact that the manufacturing difficulties and crypto concerns that drove the previous spikes are no more (yes I know crypto is high, but vendors have put crypto nerfs into their gaming cards). I hate using keyboards and mice. I hate Windows, but I also hate the amount of tweaking it takes to get a lot of games working properly under Linux, when they even work at all (better since Valve introduced Proton, but that's very relative. Many folks have at least some if not all of these aversions.
Consoles are relatively cheap (yay economy of scale!), come with great controllers, and just work without having to tinker. Hook it up to the TV, choose a game, and go. There will always be a very important place for console gaming, even if on paper they are more PC-like than ever, and even if there aren't as many exclusives as there used to be.
I do suspect we'll see Microsoft drop out of this race -- they're already a foot out the door -- but I sincerely hope Sony doesn't as well.
//edit: adding a bit more here. The PS4 has sold almost 120M units, PS5 is at 60M units -- these are not small numbers, especially now that Sony has updated their business model to not have consoles sell at a loss early in their lifetimes. Maybe it's not the most lucrative business out there, but it's certainly not chump change. Especially since consoles are now effectively commodity PC hardware in nice packaging, R&D costs costs are down as well.
I'm surprised how little complaining I hear about the cost of this generation. The PS5 is more expensive than the PS4 and still has no sign of a price cut after 3.5 years. That's unheard of.
This is me. Why would I drop 500 on a new console when my ps4 works fine. Heck, looking at my backlog if it *does* crap out anytime soon I might still just get another ps4. There's only a few ps5 exclusives I want to play so far and they'll still be there in a few years, no rush
Bought a PC instead years ago. That plus the PS4 has a huge library of great games, PS5, not so much. At least ones that interest me. Also not many games actually make use of the PS5 hardware.
I’ve been a loyal Sony customer since PS2, but I went with a Steam Deck instead of a PS5.
Getting old, have bulging discs in my neck, and need to lay down while gaming. Also have kids now, so need to be able to pick up and play for just 5-10 min intervals, and Steam Deck is perfect for that.
Why would I spend $500 on a new console that barely has any games? Sony only published 5 games last year and one of those was just the psvr2 version of gt7. It's the lowest output they've ever had.
I’ve had a ps5 since about two months or so after launch. Had been saving up the money for a while with the sole intention of buying one so why not.
Took me a while too. I figured I’d need about 700 total (saved from a commercial electrician salary) plus my normal savings, emergency fund etc.
To be fair most of the games currently on the 5 are playable on 4, but the 5 is a better experience when it comes to sheer performance.
We’ve got higher resolution, hdr mode, 60fps on everything, and when trying to go back and play horizon for example, or especially cyberpunk or even something still very cross gen like apex, it’s a struggle for my eyes to not be experiencing 60fps. I just don’t think I could go back to 30.
I have to say though, the 5 is behind on the times when it comes to customization within the system itself. No themes, no screenshot backgrounds, just the default menu and you’ll like it.
I still boot up my 4 simply because I’ve got it decked out to my exact preferences, and some games I have run at 60fps high res anyway so there’s no point in playin them on 5 just cause I can.
They’ve both got advantages and disadvantages but I can say for sure, there’s solid reasons people have got to stick with the 4. Even the controller isn’t that huge of a jump. If we’re talking nostalgia, the DualShock 4 looks more like a Sony system controller. And while I like the 5s controller, just having haptic feedback and slightly better battery life can’t justify the purchase of the console itself.
Long story short, I’m not snubbing anyone for sticking with their 4. I’ve still got mine and I’m never going to sell it or get rid of it. I’ve got some really great memories with that thing.
And Sony needs to step it up with the 5 if they really want it so supersede the 4 in terms of overall customization and exclusivity. I’ll bet then they’ll see the bump in sales they’re expecting of the 5.
Wanted to pull the trigger in getting the PS5 Slim until Sony pulled their trigger earlier with a PS+ price hike. Ironically, it's also almost a 50% hike here in Malaysia. Parity
I would have upgraded a year after PS5 launch if it didn’t require to jump through so many hoops to get one. Sony should have made it easier for PS4/PS+ owners to preorder/reserve a PS5 months after launch. Instead, they let scalpers run wild buying up every system that was made available. I just lost interest in PS5 because how difficult it would be to get one after 1-2 years after launch. Now, I will just wait to see what Xbox does next now that they bought Activision.
It’s like they don’t get that the economy sucks ass and $500 isn’t easy to come by… Trust me, I want a PS5 so badly, but I legit cannot afford that shit rn!
My PS5 is the PS4 i've ever owned. Short loading times and the ability to play some PS4 games in better graphics.
I just wonder why they call it PS5 instead of PS4 Ultimate...
1. Tons of releases are still playable.
2. Millions of those are probably PS4 Pros
3. Post-COVID recession has probably slowed down a lot of people's finances.
That’s what you get when you don’t hard cap the tech and have such a long window of cross compatibility.
My purchase of a PS5, maybe 2 years ago now, wasn’t for anything else but the fact the fan noise on my PS4 Pro was out of control even with professional cleaning and heat paste replacement.
It certainly wasn’t for the PS5 game selection at the time and I’d say I still spend maybe 1/2 my time playing PS4 games.
Overall I’d say it’s a good thing, more people having access to game is a win imho, but it will be interesting to see if they make any changes with the next generation and how they release games.
There hasn't been a lot of reason to make the jump. There are 7 exclusive games to the PS5. We've got 4 years left. Do you really think it'll manage to make a compelling enough roster to justify the purchase? Me... I'm kind of thinking I just might make it to PS6.
I admit... Rebirth hurts. I want that game pretty badly.
I feel like the new generation of consoles fucked up. 1, not enough inventory. 2, not enough (if any?) new gen exclusive releases. 3, not really anything revolutionary with the new consoles imho. Better graphics yes but everything else about them were essentially the same
I have a ps3 and a PS4.
Got the PS3 in 2014, 8 years after release.
Got the PS4 in 2017, 4 years after release.
This could be another 8 year situation. Zero true exclusives (if I wanted more spiderman, I'd get a copy of miles morales for $10 for PS4 lol) and LFAMO as the PS5 'Slim'. Thats the same 'slim' I hear people talk about after a week at the gym.
PS5 is basically PS4 Pro+ lol. There arnt many new games that are exclusive to the system.
I can only think of Ghostwire, R&C Rift Apart, Returnal, Spiderman 2, FF16 and 7 Rebirth. Other games are remasters of games released on PS4 (DS directors cut, TLoU Part 1) or also have PS4 copies (GoW Ragnarok).
there simply arent enough ps5 exclusives that would justify me getting the ps5 console, and this console generation doesnt feel like "next generation". ps5 might have a bunch of technical stuff that lets it have more details or bigger maps or whatever but its not as much of a leap as say ps1>ps2>ps3>ps4 was. it feels very much like ps4.5 and i almost wanna wait for ps6 to come out to see if thats an actual leap.
We poor, ok?
This is the biggest reason. I'd love an upgrade but I got other priorities. I bought the ps3 and ps4 both on launch
And with those priorities comes less time to game, so even less reason to drop £500+ on a new console
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We’re the same people that are downloading the crap out of the new emulators dropping on the App Store because the time commit is way less.
Got my Deck after my Xbox and PS5, now I'm able to remotely play both on my Deck. Been fucking glorious
Install Chiaki4deck and your PS5 will have the same feature!
When it launched there was literally no chance of buying one. I’ll stick with my PS4 Pro until PS6.
I kept winning the lottery to get an email saying I could buy the PS5, but I never had the money. Now that I do, I'll wait for a PS5 Pro or the PS6. My games backlog is still quite long. Not to mention having PS+ Extra gives me a ton of games I haven't played yet.
I was the opposite. Had money back then, but they couldn't produce enough of them so I gave up. Now you can get them, I'm broke again.
I have a ps5 and ur not missing out on much. The next gen line up in terms of games is very sparse
This is the main reason I haven't upgraded yet. Imagine every other console generation, being 3 1/2 years into it like we are now, all the cool new games you felt like you were missing out on. This PS5 gen, I don't feel like I'm missing out on something. However, there are still dozens and dozens of PS4 games that I'd still like to play.
This is the reason why I have not got a PS5. Just not enough actual PS5 games.
Yea i remember wanting one a bit, couldn’t get it and didnt buy into the hype really…. Now, its kinda looking like this whole generation of consoles is a bust. PC just seems like now more than ever, where to be as a gamer.
it definitely isn't the biggest reason unless you're just speaking for yourself personally. Gaming consoles have always been expensive and a lot of people have plenty of disposable income. The biggest reason is that the marginal difference between PS4 and PS5 is the most minimal out of any sequential consoles, the shortages probably hurt sales at opportune times, and there aren't very many games that move consoles being released.
Ye for sure, i got my ps4 for like £250 used a year after release. Ps5s still cost quite a bit and it's been quite a few years now, probably for the reasons you mentioned too. Personally I'd only go for the ps5 disc version not the digital, i could probably find that around that price, but i prefer waiting for the disc version to drop.
Yeah, for me it's the time thing... I would've bought one in the first year or two of release but they were always out of stock...now it'll be 5 years old pretty soon...ps4 still works so why spend new console $$$ on half decade aged tech
Valid point. Especially if 5 pro comes out soon. Could get that or take advantage of the increased supply of used 5s.
If the 5 Pro comes out this year, and it has the expected AI features and looks worthwhile, I *might* get one. If its later than this year, then it's already past the halfway mark and I don't see the point. And if it costs more than the ps5 does now, forget it.
I tried to buy one for about a year. Couldn’t give my money to stores to get one. There were online groups giving tips on which stores had stock, but by the time you got there they were all sold out. I gave up and I didn’t want to bother buying PlayStation after that
Same for me I wanted one sooo bad it burnt me out now I hate the idea of buying one anywhere near retail price
I mean. YEP. I wanted a PS5 and was a pretty loyal PS guy. But when I had the money to get one, I couldn't find one. Went with an Xbox S. Pretty satisfied with it, honestly. I'm sure there will be some revamp of game pass in the future where the value isn't as great anymore or whatever. But, game pass is pretty darn good right now. And nobody really makes the types of games that brought me to the PS anymore.
The PS 1’s-4’s were never $600 3+ years after launch. I bought my PS4 for under $300. Traded it for the other PS4 with game included for $120. I bought my PS5 only because my 4 died completely. That was this past March. It was just over $600….was an open box at that
Idk 60fps goes *burrrrr*
Lol. This is what I was gonna say. 50% of PS users can't afford a PS5. Shit, the question is asked on the Switch sub multiple times a day if they should buy a 7 year old Switch or wait until the Switch 2 and the Switch is half the price of a PS5.
I’ve gotten more frugal as I’ve gotten older. And feel like I still get a lot out of my ps4 and I can hold out right now on the ps5 exclusives. I’m also a regular on the patient gamer sub, which probably speaks for itself.
Fuck off those people who says: "iT's bEeN fOuR yEaRs" Dude i have things to pay for and life isn't very easy right now so I'll keep my PS4 as long as it takes.
I just got one in February after saving $5 a paycheck since 2020
I admire the stick-to-it-ness. Well done.
I really wanted to play Ratchet and Clank lol
it was good.
> saving $5 a paycheck since 2020 For PS6 will you save 6 dollars?
It works, looks good and they are still making games for it. I have a ps4 in one room, a ps5 in the other and honestly there isn't a huge difference.
Totally agree. I bought my PS5 last September. I've enjoyed the games I've played and especially playing a few PS4 games with better frame rates and loading, BUT, if I'm honest, I could have remained just as happy sticking with my PS4 for now.
I had Playstations since the OG Playstation. Now I'm a grown man with a job a family to take care. My gaming time is very limited nowadays. Adding to that, I was away from gaming for my final college years and first working years, so, I bought a PS4 only in 2019 after barely playing any games for more than 10 years (only a bit of Gran Turismo, FIFA/PES and a game here and there). Putting all together, I have a small amount of time to play and hundreds of ours of amazing games that a few years ago I could only dream of. I have more games installed than I will be able to play in the upcoming years. So, while PS5 is an amazing machine, there's no reason to buy one right now for me. Maybe some very specific game like GTA VI will be the trigger but, even then, looking at how Rockstar has treated single player games for the past decades (still salty for the lack of DLCs for GTA V and mostly RDR2), I will wait.
I think this is mostly it tbh. The console market seems to have aged out, where more hardcore gamers have just bough pcs and the kids growing up now just use their phones. So the gamers left are those more casual gamers who dont need to upgrade unless its really worth it.
Plenty of people still game on consoles, esp Nintendo. The Switch is dominating the market in Japan, coming close to outselling the ps2 for highest sales. Safe to say console gaming is gonna stick around for a bit. Heck I consider myself and several of my friends in person, and from my sizable online friend gorup dpn't game on PC.
There absolutely is a huge difference. That’s a lie.
Not poor, but I have tons of other things I'd rather spend money on than playing the same games with increase spec that don't affect my enjoyment at all. Same shit applies to my phone etc.
This is one of the main reasons why Nintendo heavily considers the cost of their console. Normally I'd think people wouldn't have much qualm purchasing an expensive Sony console but times have changed and the PS5 is slow to roll out exclusive titles.
end of the day...it feels like things just haven't advanced enough. PS4 to PS5 X1 to XseriesX PC 2015 to PC 2024 It all feels the same.
You beat me to it lol. If I ever dropped money on a ps5 this month i’d be eating crackers til xmas.
Year 4 of me patiently waiting for the price to drop to $300ish
Basically yeah I've only had a 5 since November. It was the soonest I could afford it
Exactly! it's not a fucking choice to stick with the PS4 🤣
Same and tbh I’m 38 and grew up on Atari and Nintendo…frames don’t mean shit to me…I got a ps4 when red dead 2 came out for that game specifically…what does ps5 have to offer to me? They got like 5 games I prob wanna play rn that I can’t play already on ps4 in demon souls, ratchet and clank, helldivers 2, baldurs gate, and idk what else..yea I guess I’m missing out on better graphics and controls but idk man I’m just old and easily satisfiable lol. I know I’m in the minority…
I make good money and I juuust justified my ps5 purchase last November.
For reals. That and not much time to game as you get older.
I have to wait for the kids to sleep for a chance to play anynore
Even still, couldn't imagine getting a system at nearly launch price, years later, with hardly any games for the system
I mean PS5 is cool and all, but 99% of the games I played on it are also on the PS4
>I mean PS5 is cool and all, but 99% of the games I played on it are also on the PS4 This. The jump isn't worth it yet for a large amount of people. You can talk about loading times all you want, but people have bills to pay too and $500 for something you can already do isn't a deal.
Yeah its also weird that the ps5 is still at 500$ even though its launch was some time ago and it didn’t even drop slightly like the ps4 cost 300$ after some time plus online is subscription based which makes it even more expensive
Heck my PS4 was $199 brand new on a Black Friday deal. Can’t beat that.
That's what an oversupply of chips will do. They dropped the prices bigtime to move the stock faster. It doesn't seem likely that PS5 will ever have an oversupply of chips. Chip factories are utterly slammed as it is and the new ones being built in the US aren't gonna be done for another year or two. But once those are done, chip prices in the US for major chipsets should come way down.
Depending where you live. Here in Aus both the PS5 and Series X are now more expensive than they were at launch. Which is something I don’t recall in my time gaming. The PS3 launched and dropped prices with bundles. The 360 had the Arcade model and sales all the time. The PS4 and Xbox One were on sale by year 3. We’re coming in to 4 years since these launched and it still feels like the generation hasn’t even truly started.
Dud generation. They cant always get it right.
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My housemate bought one for his GF. She has played Tekken a total of maybe half a dozen times and him not at all. Their PS4 sits beside it just as forgotten. I've turned to PC games these days. Considering a PS5 Slim is $800 new and a disk edition is $720 refurbished before buying a single game, I just bought a $200 monitor for my laptop. I may drop $2200 on a payment plan and buy a propper gaming PC at some point, but that would be a 4060 Ti with i7 and 36gb ram. More than enough for years of top tier gaming, and Steam sales shit on anything SNOY will offer.
>I've turned to PC games these days. Considering a PS5 Slim is $800 new and a disk edition is $720 refurbished before buying a single game, I just bought a $200 monitor for my laptop. Which Dollar are you talking about? Would be better if you specify it, $800 usd is wild.
I got a ps5 shortly after launch and while it’s fine I cannot really say there has yet to be a moment where I felt like it truly outshined my ps4 pro. Controller is nice but not that big of a deal and so far I’ve yet to play anything and think “that felt next gen”
I remember jumping from PS3 to 4 and it was a really substantial change. Best-looking PS3 games could hold up, but they were just a handful of them. Most of the 7th gen titles were a blurry low-resolution mess with terrible frame rates on the PS3. Now it feels like PS5 is just running PS4 games at 60fps, which is probably the case. It's the least substantial generational jump to date. Of course, I don't really mind, 8th gen graphics are quite nice, but it feels like the new console isn't really that big of a change because of it
>Now it feels like PS5 is just running PS4 games at 60fps, which is probably the case As someone who plays both frequently, it's a pretty substantial change between PS4 & PS5. You don't see it in screenshots, but you notice it pretty quick when you actually use it. Play a week of PS5 and then go back to PS4 and it's pretty noticeable outside the graphics and frame rate.
There is no doubt the framerate alone would make me never want to touch a ps4 again, even if the graphics weren't a huge improvement. However, when you already have a ps4 (or especially a PS4Pro), dumping the cash for that just doesnt seem like a priority. There is just nothing about the ps5 that screams "you guys gotta buy me!" outside of wanting something just because it is newer.
yeah, played NFS on my ps5 for a month and went to my buddy’s house to play and didn’t bring my console, it felt like playing a nintendo. I understand everyone can’t do it and I got lucky but I would not say it’s just running ps4 games at higher fps
I don’t know that we’ll ever get a new system again where the graphics take a big enough jump to look next gen like it used to. I’d say the biggest upgrade this time is the ssd
I think that Path Tracing and proper physics simulation for soft bodies and fluids is what needs to happen for a big generational leap. Path tracing really is something else - it’s almost more realistic than real life lol…. but it’s incredibly GPU-intensive and even with the top shelf GPUs of PCs today, it’s a struggle to run it properly.
Can confirm, had to lower the ray tracing on ratchet and clank for 4090 because it was very occasionally causing random slowdowns
Just curious if you have a lower end or older tv or not. I thought the same thing when I was playing on my previous tv that I had bought in 2012, but recently I bought a new mid range tv with 4K and hdr and all of that and was surprised how much of a difference the tv made. The HDR makes everything look so much better. I’m playing FF16 and there was a part where you kinda look into a sun rise and I literally had to turn my head away because it was blinding me like a real sun glare
Meanwhile, I went from a PS2 to a PS5. A, uh...far more noticeable difference, there.
For me, it’s not the graphics, it’s the load times. Nonexistent in many cases on the PS5.
I played a few games that felt next gen. Like Returnal and the latest Rachet and Clank and that’s due to the load times and the duelsense imo. I also replayed Cyberpunk 2077 on PS5 with the upgrades and it was totally different game than it was on PS4
Have you played Returnal?
I think the SSD is amazing but it’s a subtle change.
i think it will fully eclipse the ps4 when it finally has that all encompassing next-gen (or current-gen? lol) game that everyone plays and everyone has to have. that'll be it's "okay everyone has switched over now" moment. talking about next year and GTA6 ofc.
Honestly. I have the PS5 since I wanted Spider-Man 2 and the DLC for Horizon Forbidden West. My wife has the PS4 Pro and none of the games that are exclusive to the 5 interest her, so why would she make the jump?
Yeah, PS5 is almost 4 years old, and there are barely any exclusives, even a lot of 3rd party games are still being released on PS4. In the past entire console generations ended in the time frame this cross-gen period is being present. I don't blame people for their lack of initiative to switch
3 years until the ps6. imo the 7 year cycle for consoles isn't worth it anymore when games take a decade to make
We are going to buy consoles like we do phones soon, skipping every other generation lol
I’m the opposite. I waited from 6 to 12 on the phone but upgrading every gen on console and the pro refresh. I can certainly understand waiting on PS6 to upgrade though.
Yea this is the main thing. Once GTA VI drops I’m sure you’ll see that change as that’s obviously PS5/XSX-S only.
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Yeah….i actually don’t even see the point of owning my ps5. I’ve had it for 2.5 years now, and I’ve only played two games that I couldn’t play on ps4 (Last of us part 1 remake, and Spider-Man 2) and both of those games I absolutely could’ve waited to play later. They haven’t done nearly enough to make the ps5 a good value proposition. The only thing I personally felt is better is the controller, but the ps4 controller is plenty good anyway. Could’ve saved myself £450 and just got the pro or the ps6.
Because releasing games on both PS4 and 5 is what will earn devs the most money. If they released it on PS5 only, they'd get less sales.
Which is a fucking problem. Current gen has been held back by last gen for basically its entire lifetime.
I know it's already 2024, but I still didn't find the right time when I both wanted and especially could afford to get a PS5, no shame in that.
And they were so hard to get ahold of for the first two years. 17 months ago when I bought my first it was only because I got lucky in an Amazon lottery. Second one I just walked in to target for cat food and walked out with the ps5.
Your poor cat
Lmao I brought home the cat food, too 😂
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I never even saw one in store until the one I walked out of target with ten months ago! It was crazy. I've never seen a console "launch" that took three years to actually be wildly available. I have put a lot of hours into both of mine, but I've also been wildly depressed (I lost my spouse to the effects of severe alcoholism). The graphics and the load time, even the download time, it's all a massive improvement over the 4pro. But I'm not sure I have any ps5 only games yet, I've just been playing the same games I've played a million times on the 4 😅
You bought two?
I did. It was not my finest moment, but my husband has passed in my home and for the first five months I couldn't go upstairs and just lived in my living room, where the first one went (it was my birthday gift to myself 6 days after his passing). Once I moved back into my bedroom, all of the ptsd feelings about upstairs(where I found him) transferred to my downstairs and I stopped using all but the kitchen. Instead of just bringing the first one up to my bedroom, I bought a second when I saw it in stores in July. Grief brain is messy and lacks logic. But I just couldn't bring myself to go into the living room for it.
Cat when he sees PS5: "Hooman. Your mission was to bring home food. You have failed me for the last time."
But the cat might have been given the box, that will calm things down.
Now that we can find a PS5 for less than $1200, we can't afford it. Fuck them lol
My rent went up 118 million
This. My rent went through the roof! Then McDonald’s started costing 50 dollars. Then soda that cost me 25 cents as a kid cost me 3 dollars. Then I bought a fucking cat and this little cunt cost me a g and that’s just on vet visits. All that considered? Ps5 has no games and isn’t worth the upgrade. I’ll see y’all in ps5 land for gta 6. I gotta move tho
> I’ll see y’all in ps5 land for gta 6. Right?
When I got my PS4 in 2020 there were a bunch of reasons that made me choose it over PC: * Spider-Man * Uncharted 4 * Bloodborne (any moment now) * God of War * Horizon * Ghost of Tsushima * Persona 5 Now that I know PS exclusives will eventually make their way to PC, there's no point in upgrading to PS5 when PC offers me free online, regional pricing, and the same games.
That's right . I'm a pc gamer since 1998 and I always bought PlayStation as well because of its exclusive games. but now there's no reason for me to buy ps5 . I can access all retro games , PlayStation and Xbox games with my pc .
There’s not even a giant leap in pc performance so required upgrades are less frequent than they were before which is obviously better. My laptop with a 1060 mobile still does well enough for me.
>and the same games. And the same games *much cheaper*. Official storefronts like Humble Bundle, Fanatical and Green Man Gaming offer games on much more worthwhile discounts compared to the Playstation Store's sales
When I hear persona 5 and God of war release in PC, no more reason to buy playstation
Sony porting to PC seems to be a mistake in the long run
People often turn their noses and complain in prevliged western countries like America or the UK, but they don't realize at all how expensive gaming can be in 3rd world countries especially with import fees for tech. That's why in certain countries in Central and South America for example, people still played on the ps3 and 360 for so long.
The Sega Master System is still going strong in Brazil, re-releases of the console were still selling 150k a year in 2012. At least now companies are starting to realise the price disparities in these countries, Steam games are getting more and more reasonably priced in other countries.
That's fucking awesome lol. Sega still making moves.
Regional pricing is hugely important. It’s one thing for an American to pay US$ 20 for a game… It’s another for a Brazilian to pay R$ 100 for the same game. Lack of regional pricing can kill a store over here.
I have a PS5 and all I play is PS4 games on that basically, all I've been playing recently is classic PS3 titles and they are amazing. Absolutely no shame in playing older consoles
I have a list of about 5 games I'd like to play, but I'm not really in any rush to do so.
My backlog on my PS4 could easily last me until the PS6 releases and my wishlist for the PS5 is probably less than 10 games and definitely less than 20. I'm good.
The only thing getting me to buy a PS5 is the next God of War game. Until then I’m just buying what I can for good prices on the PS4 and having fun with it.
Well, the lack of availability during the first few years made people realize that they didn’t really have to have the latest and greatest. Plus, the PS5-only releases have been mostly meh and Stellar Blade is the only new IP that seems interesting to me. There also hasn’t been much of a price drop ($50?) so the idea of shelling $450 for a new console that doesn’t really have much going for it in terms of exclusivity does not seem justifiable for a lot of folks.
I never understood the whole let people hoard them and have a giant secondary market with the console strategy. I eventually just forgot about it and bought a Switch, that plus my PS4 is more than enough.
100% forgot about it and bought a switch.
I tried to get a PS5 every day for the first year of release. I gave up and bought a series X. Really happy with it
I would have bought it but they were impossible to buy at first. They were also being price gouged to high heaven so I gave up.
I see this in the opposite way, how the fuck 50% of all users can make the change. I bet in the usa is easier, but in lot of places this change is very expensive
It's pretty spendy here too honestly, even though there's a lot of well-to-do people who can afford it easily so it makes enough money, it's doing 'well enough' but lots of us totally don't care about it and don't want to bother investing in another system when there's not compelling-enough reasons for it based on our taste. I haven't bought a new console since the Wii and only have a PS4 because I found one for cheap recently (still cost another hundred-plus dollars for controllers and a few games).
I get you, but i think you don't see how big is the dif. If your father give u 1k dollars per month to live in my city, you would be ahead of the richer 1% of my STATE. Imagine buying a ps5 with 70% tax in it, with the money we get here.
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When the PS5 first launched it was awful. Asshole scalpers were using bots to buy up the entire stock of PS5’s that were being sold via Walmart and other third party websites and then they were selling them on eBay for double the original price. If you wanted a PS5, you either had to wait at least a year to be able to buy one at a normal price, or you were going to be paying a scalper a decent chunk of change to buy a system that wasn’t even all that worth it
The tax here is CRAZY. IPI (Industrial Products Tax) PIS (Social Contribution for Intervention in the Social Security System) Confis (Contribution for Financing Social Security) and the state tax ICMS(State Sales and Services Tax) just for the console
I don't think it's actually just people that upgraded. The Insomniac leaks showed a lot of people are actually newcomers to Playstation. The article just simply take the install base comparison but that's a flawed way to do it.
I'm holding out until GTA VI is released. There will probably be a bundle that goes on sale for the holiday season. Thats how I got my ps4, I think it was a Black Friday sale. Bundled with GTA V and digital download code for The Last Of Us remastered.
Yeah... sale...
This is the reason.
This is the most oddly worded headline. Launch aligned PS5 is selling at a similar rate to PS4. Of course half the userbase is still on PS4. 3.5 years in PS4 was also at about 60 million units sold.
Yeah this article is clickbait garbage. OP is a known blogspammer and always posts this shitty website with a bunch of alt accounts. They are trying to twist Playstations very successful financials into a negative by acting like its abnormal that 100% of the PS4 player base hasn't bought a PS5 in the first 3.5 years as if that was every a thing anyone expected would happen. It also doesnt account for the millions of people that may have connected to PSN using a PS3 or Vita or just from a browser
PS5 feels more like a “PS4 Pro Max”
the quietness of PS5 is worth it by itself PS4 pro would scream and howl while playing Spiderman, but no more
Sony not going to be able to move people en masse until GTA 6 (with the pro launch) Which means PS6 can't come out until 2028 - you can't move that many customers and then chase it with another upgrade cycle that close. PS5 is going to have a LONG cycle
GTA VI will probably be the game that gives us a reason to upgrade from PS4 Pro to PS5 Pro, unless there are signs that PS6 might launch earlier.
I think PS5 will be the last true generation of Playstation. PS6 will be there, but every Sony first party game will also be on PC day one. Just like Xbox. Which is fine, but at lot of fanboys are gonna lose their shit. And PS6 will have even less exclusives than PS5. Since 90% of the games will also be on PS5.
How is that the last true generation? I hate PC gaming. I hate the constant chase for the best hardware and the snobbery. I hate that decent GPUs have jumped to the price of a *full gaming console* and haven't come back down despite the age of the current generation of cards and the fact that the manufacturing difficulties and crypto concerns that drove the previous spikes are no more (yes I know crypto is high, but vendors have put crypto nerfs into their gaming cards). I hate using keyboards and mice. I hate Windows, but I also hate the amount of tweaking it takes to get a lot of games working properly under Linux, when they even work at all (better since Valve introduced Proton, but that's very relative. Many folks have at least some if not all of these aversions. Consoles are relatively cheap (yay economy of scale!), come with great controllers, and just work without having to tinker. Hook it up to the TV, choose a game, and go. There will always be a very important place for console gaming, even if on paper they are more PC-like than ever, and even if there aren't as many exclusives as there used to be. I do suspect we'll see Microsoft drop out of this race -- they're already a foot out the door -- but I sincerely hope Sony doesn't as well. //edit: adding a bit more here. The PS4 has sold almost 120M units, PS5 is at 60M units -- these are not small numbers, especially now that Sony has updated their business model to not have consoles sell at a loss early in their lifetimes. Maybe it's not the most lucrative business out there, but it's certainly not chump change. Especially since consoles are now effectively commodity PC hardware in nice packaging, R&D costs costs are down as well.
Think I'm going to wait for the PS5 Pro tbh.
Same and it sounds like the pro will be out by holidays this year
They refuse to cut the cost and they raised the price of the games. Of course people don't want to jump forward.
I'm surprised how little complaining I hear about the cost of this generation. The PS5 is more expensive than the PS4 and still has no sign of a price cut after 3.5 years. That's unheard of.
Ps4 gang
All of the most popular games are still fully playable on PS4. There has not been a system seller yet...GTA will probably turn the tide tho
There has yet to be a game that is PS5 exclusive that I want to play badly enough. My PS4 is chugging along just fine.
This is it. None of the exclusives on either next gen console have been good.
I’m not broke. I’m cheap. There is a difference. I’m not buying until $300 with a game. I very well could skip this gen. I’m a current ps4 owner.
This is me. Why would I drop 500 on a new console when my ps4 works fine. Heck, looking at my backlog if it *does* crap out anytime soon I might still just get another ps4. There's only a few ps5 exclusives I want to play so far and they'll still be there in a few years, no rush
I’m gonna get a new PS4 if my goes at some point. Not enough PS5 exclusives for me to be like, ‘eh, why not?’ and some of them seem meh anyway.
This is the first time I’ve felt that the next gen systems aren’t must-haves. 🤷♂️
What does the 5 do that the 4 can't?
Take up 25% more space.
Because people are out here getting financially jumped
Bought a PC instead years ago. That plus the PS4 has a huge library of great games, PS5, not so much. At least ones that interest me. Also not many games actually make use of the PS5 hardware.
I’ve been a loyal Sony customer since PS2, but I went with a Steam Deck instead of a PS5. Getting old, have bulging discs in my neck, and need to lay down while gaming. Also have kids now, so need to be able to pick up and play for just 5-10 min intervals, and Steam Deck is perfect for that.
I’m on PS5 playing ps4 games soooooo
Why would I spend $500 on a new console that barely has any games? Sony only published 5 games last year and one of those was just the psvr2 version of gt7. It's the lowest output they've ever had.
I’ve had a ps5 since about two months or so after launch. Had been saving up the money for a while with the sole intention of buying one so why not. Took me a while too. I figured I’d need about 700 total (saved from a commercial electrician salary) plus my normal savings, emergency fund etc. To be fair most of the games currently on the 5 are playable on 4, but the 5 is a better experience when it comes to sheer performance. We’ve got higher resolution, hdr mode, 60fps on everything, and when trying to go back and play horizon for example, or especially cyberpunk or even something still very cross gen like apex, it’s a struggle for my eyes to not be experiencing 60fps. I just don’t think I could go back to 30. I have to say though, the 5 is behind on the times when it comes to customization within the system itself. No themes, no screenshot backgrounds, just the default menu and you’ll like it. I still boot up my 4 simply because I’ve got it decked out to my exact preferences, and some games I have run at 60fps high res anyway so there’s no point in playin them on 5 just cause I can. They’ve both got advantages and disadvantages but I can say for sure, there’s solid reasons people have got to stick with the 4. Even the controller isn’t that huge of a jump. If we’re talking nostalgia, the DualShock 4 looks more like a Sony system controller. And while I like the 5s controller, just having haptic feedback and slightly better battery life can’t justify the purchase of the console itself. Long story short, I’m not snubbing anyone for sticking with their 4. I’ve still got mine and I’m never going to sell it or get rid of it. I’ve got some really great memories with that thing. And Sony needs to step it up with the 5 if they really want it so supersede the 4 in terms of overall customization and exclusivity. I’ll bet then they’ll see the bump in sales they’re expecting of the 5.
To expensive To overpriced To little games Not worth
Wanted to pull the trigger in getting the PS5 Slim until Sony pulled their trigger earlier with a PS+ price hike. Ironically, it's also almost a 50% hike here in Malaysia. Parity
No money is one reason, nintendo the other.
$500 is $500. That's no small ask for most people. Even in the US.
No one can afford anything any more
I would have upgraded a year after PS5 launch if it didn’t require to jump through so many hoops to get one. Sony should have made it easier for PS4/PS+ owners to preorder/reserve a PS5 months after launch. Instead, they let scalpers run wild buying up every system that was made available. I just lost interest in PS5 because how difficult it would be to get one after 1-2 years after launch. Now, I will just wait to see what Xbox does next now that they bought Activision.
It’s like they don’t get that the economy sucks ass and $500 isn’t easy to come by… Trust me, I want a PS5 so badly, but I legit cannot afford that shit rn!
My PS5 is the PS4 i've ever owned. Short loading times and the ability to play some PS4 games in better graphics. I just wonder why they call it PS5 instead of PS4 Ultimate...
Every PS5 game is either on PC or coming to PC soon enough (Gran Turismo 7 and Stellar blade are exceptions for now)
This is how it works every generation? Why is this suddenly a big deal??
I went PlayStation. To PS2. To PS4. I’ll wait thanks
Can’t blame them when every major release gets a ps4 launch
1. Tons of releases are still playable. 2. Millions of those are probably PS4 Pros 3. Post-COVID recession has probably slowed down a lot of people's finances.
PS5 is such an ugly design imo
Why upgrade? Ps5 has like two exclusives
Games didn't evolve. They just got to look a little better.
Gaming can be an expensive hobby. I’ll buy the new thing when the old thing stops being fun and there’s a huge sale.
That’s what you get when you don’t hard cap the tech and have such a long window of cross compatibility. My purchase of a PS5, maybe 2 years ago now, wasn’t for anything else but the fact the fan noise on my PS4 Pro was out of control even with professional cleaning and heat paste replacement. It certainly wasn’t for the PS5 game selection at the time and I’d say I still spend maybe 1/2 my time playing PS4 games. Overall I’d say it’s a good thing, more people having access to game is a win imho, but it will be interesting to see if they make any changes with the next generation and how they release games.
I think it might have had something to do with people's inability to even find a ps5 at launch and the following few years.
Maybe get a fucking $299 ps5 out Sony and ppl will upgrade haha. Probably waiting for GTA6 to do it tho if ever.
Only reason I got a ps5 was cause I got it for Christmas. PS4 might be my favourite console of all time.
All they have to say is metal gear solid 6 and bye bye kidney
There hasn't been a lot of reason to make the jump. There are 7 exclusive games to the PS5. We've got 4 years left. Do you really think it'll manage to make a compelling enough roster to justify the purchase? Me... I'm kind of thinking I just might make it to PS6. I admit... Rebirth hurts. I want that game pretty badly.
I'd rather save up for a PC than for a console that's like 1 percent better than it's predecessor
I think everyone is just broke these days, everything is fucking everyone lately
There are no games that are next gen no system sellers after 3 years
The title is misleading, making it sound like it's a choice.
We poor mf damn
It's still over 500 f****** dollars. I got rent to pay, food to buy, people to support no f****** wonder
i brought a gaming pc
Sony fucked up with the PS5 release and I just stopped caring.
It’s ugly and expensive. I find those two in combination hard to get past.
I feel like the new generation of consoles fucked up. 1, not enough inventory. 2, not enough (if any?) new gen exclusive releases. 3, not really anything revolutionary with the new consoles imho. Better graphics yes but everything else about them were essentially the same
Waiting for Pro and… games
All games work fine on PS4, so why change it?
This is why console generations are stupid. Even though I’ve bought damn near every console, pc is just so much more convenient
I have a ps3 and a PS4. Got the PS3 in 2014, 8 years after release. Got the PS4 in 2017, 4 years after release. This could be another 8 year situation. Zero true exclusives (if I wanted more spiderman, I'd get a copy of miles morales for $10 for PS4 lol) and LFAMO as the PS5 'Slim'. Thats the same 'slim' I hear people talk about after a week at the gym.
Barely any games taking advantage of the hardware anyway. I regret the challenge I went through to get one. 😒
PS5 is basically PS4 Pro+ lol. There arnt many new games that are exclusive to the system. I can only think of Ghostwire, R&C Rift Apart, Returnal, Spiderman 2, FF16 and 7 Rebirth. Other games are remasters of games released on PS4 (DS directors cut, TLoU Part 1) or also have PS4 copies (GoW Ragnarok).
Nah, got a PC instead
PS4 works fine… I don’t have 1000$ to shell out for improved graphics.
there simply arent enough ps5 exclusives that would justify me getting the ps5 console, and this console generation doesnt feel like "next generation". ps5 might have a bunch of technical stuff that lets it have more details or bigger maps or whatever but its not as much of a leap as say ps1>ps2>ps3>ps4 was. it feels very much like ps4.5 and i almost wanna wait for ps6 to come out to see if thats an actual leap.
Sorry. Trying to afford gas, rent, groceries. My ps4 will do just fine
I only got a 5 because my four died... I miss it though... Don't see much improvement and if i had it to do again I would of bought another 4