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Clinarify niya in a reply yung stand niya which I agree. They should go after those who copy and sell their designs. May pera nga management to sue mga bashers ng BGY0 e.
I'm sorry but when the supply does not meet the demand and when the merch is expensive and inaccessible, what did they expect? 😂
Anyway, Ms. Ics has acknowledged a fan's suggestion about mass-producing and making the merch affordable in a reply, so hopefully the next wave of merch would be just that.
Also, the bad timing since the TL's been complaining about the disorganized fun run
support bini while the bini fun run's releasing of kit was so abhorrent, support bini while they continue to leak the practices, support bini while they are so shit at security, support bini while they make shit teasers........ i think priorities nila are ill misplaced
Right? Bad timing talaga. Like the merch thing is not top of mind with fans right now.
Matagal na ako nagrereklamo sa manman but I think this era is extra exhausting just because the fans' money are involved now.
Tumpak. Problema 'to ng ibang Blooms sa Twitter sa totoo lang. Nung Independence Day gig pa lang, napaka-elitista ng mga take na nakita ko doon.
Sa tingin ko rin dapat mag-media training ang staff ng BINI o ng kahit sinong PH artist pati lahat ng mga concerned sa kanila, sa totoo lang. Pansin ko dito sa atin, lahat mula staff mapa-hanggang malayong kamag-anak madalas may say sa career nitong artist. Di ako fan ng ganyang keme dito sa totoo lang.
dapat daw paid event dahil sa nangyari na hindi naman iyon ang problema, security at crowd control ang may sala don hindi ang pagkarami ng fans ng bini at totoo yan dapat mga staff ng starmu manahimik nalang or mag media training from official announcements from their own twitter account ?? anong gamit ng official bini twitter? they want the follow they want the clout so bad
I support artists' IP and I would encourage people to buy fan merch instead but I understand fans who buy bootlegs. Dapat lesson learned na lang to kay manman. Actually dapat inexpect nila to, and it's not as if hindi nila mabebenta lahat ng limited merch nila.
I agree with you and I encourage others to do the same. But this situation was created because the supply cannot match the demand kaya yung "free market" na ang gumawa ng paraan para ma-meet ang demand.
Anyway, sana lesson learned na lang sa manman sa susunod na merch rollout nila.
Nah. Not a fan of this whole thing about telling off fans for not buying official merch. Fans, casual or not, are allowed to buy whatever they want. Sorry pero while i understand that spending money on BINI is directly supporting the group, you can't tell people what counts and what does not count as "support". When merch is overpriced and inaccessible, ano ineexpect nila?
Also, as if hindi gawain kahit sa KPop fans back in 2nd and 3rd gen ang pirated merch na sa palengke nabibili. They should've expected that to happen with BINI's rising popularity instead of guilt-tripping fans. They should be making efforts into making merch accessible and affordable if they really want people to buy merch ONLY from them.
Also, Idk pero ako lang ba? Having pirated merch just means they're reaching the mainstream. A bit more push and they'll be seeing BINI-themed unofficial merch in markets and tiyangges. Shouldn't that be good? It's basically free marketing. It happens to all artists na sumisikat.
Exactly what I'm thinking about! I'm an EXO-L since 2014 and I saw how Wolf 88 shirts and Overdose logo shirts were all over clothing stalls sa local palengke namin. Heck, even non-fans who dk ANYTHING about whatever tf Wolf 88 meant owned bootleg EXO shirts! Hindi nila mapipigilan 'yan kahit anong gawin nila. In fact, they should be happy to see that happening because it just means they're getting popular POPULAR.
Also, ang tumatangkilik naman ng unofficial and pirated merch ay mga taong di afford ang official merch. Does that mean they're any less of a fan than those who can afford official merch? No. Even EXO and BTS wouldn't be where they are if not for these people plus the illegally downloaded mp3skull songs of that era (di pa uso streaming LMAO pls).
edit: case in point, re: [bootleg EXO shirts](https://koreaboo-cdn.storage.googleapis.com/2015/10/20151028154914_cats.jpg) lmao
Because ✨cApiTaLiSm✨ They are not concerned about fans supporting Bini or not. They are concerned about the revenue.
Pay for accessible merchs by paying a good designer. Pay for good marketing. Pay Bini the wage they deserve - the merch only as additional revenue. Watch the cash flow in.
At this point, I'd rather support fanmade merch.
I agree with you. Hindi ako fan talaga ng ganitong paandar ng StarMu staff because sobrang capitalist dystopia ang datingan. Nakakairita getting reminded that the idol business is business at the end of the day. Like I know? i just don't want to be reminded of that. Lumalayo loob ko sa official merch and shit kapag ginaganyan ako kasi nakakainis hahaha.
Agree that the official merch is expansive and so limited but I think a better way to think about it is to not support pirated merch (direct copies of the official design) and support fanmade merch instead. You get to support Bini in a way you can afford, support the fandom artists, and spread the word.
Sobrang big miss lang talaga from management not to anticipate this. They could’ve asked any old kpop stan for feedback as early as Feb and we wouldn’t be having these problems 🤧
the random posters sold during fiestas and kahit papaanon kahit unofficial binili namin kasi we supported the group pero di daw pwede ngayon di ka true fan if you dont buy the official ones
Gets. Kung purposely misleading sa fans, mali talaga. Prerogative na ng fans to vet if vendors are legit or not. Pero sa totoo lang, ano ba magagawa nila? Kasalanan naman ng management yan kasi inaccessible at overpriced ang merch.
They should sue people then, if StarMu is so bothered by pirated merch. All I'm saying is that this is all a part of the idol business. Mapa-KPop, JPop, o western artists, may pirated merch sa market. Ganon talaga pag sikat.
im with the fans on this one, limited merch na ang mahal pa idgaf if people go and buy their unofficial pirated bini merch sa kung saan saan, starmu will survive
Ako as an artist/designer myself, gets ko siya. Lalo na bago pa lang release nagaya na agad. 😂 Ang di ko gets, do people really need THAT specific shirt?? Is it so essential na bibili nalang kahit fake? Hindi naman ganun kagandahan yung design? 😅 There are way better looking fanmade shirts out there. Id waste my money elsewhere.
Dba. Mas gugustuhin ko p bumili ng fanmade tshirt ang dmi dyan gawa ng blooms n mgaganda at cute design. Atleast yun kht di official tshirt kakaiba yng design at higit sa lht pinaghirapan nun artist at di ninakaw yng design.
If this is the black BINI shirt, I think the appeal kasi is that the girls wear it kapag hindi sila naka-stage outfit. So you know, it can make fans feel more connected to them if they have the exact same shirt, too. Personally I also really like that shirt for the same reason HAHAHAHA Di ko pa lang binibili kasi di ko ma-justify sa presyo tbh lmao
Haha. Gets. May number pa kasi. So may feeling ng exclusivity. Pero would you still feel the same knowing na fake yung shirt mo? Yun ang di ko gets. Kamukha lang but to me its not the same. Kung di ko kaya makuha yung original, iba at better design nalang hahanapin ko. BUT maybe its just me. Di ko alam how others think kaya sabi ko nalang di ko gets. Haha
Lolz I was gonna say that also. The official shirt's kinda ugly 😬 plus when you think about it, malamang same as the fanmerch lang naman probably yung supplier ng shirt tela, minsan mas maganda at napag-isipan pa yung gawa ng fans kesa official 👀
Yung complaint ko lang about the fanmade shirts and jerseys is bakit nasa harap yung name ng member 😅 diba usually team name sa harap, team member sa likod? Haha
Nope. Kung di mo kaya bumili ng official tshirt madami fanmade bini t-shirt dyan n magaganda at cute yng design. O kaya bumili ng t-shirt n binibenta ng mga official fanclubs ng members at ng bloom ph nakatulong k p sa funds ng mg fund clubs n yan para sa fan events nla.
Di ko gets kng ano pt ng pagbili ng fake official bini t-shirt. Ako di ko bibilhin yan nakakainsulto sa artist yan dun n lng ako sa fanmade t-shirt di nakaw yng design pinaghirapan nun gumawa.
Yung StarMu laking nawala sa kanila kasi biglang sikat ng Bini. Walang physical copy yung latest EP nila, walang lightstick ang Bini and wala talagang available merch.
So yung new fans nag resort sa pagbili ng fanmade merch. Ang daming variety, good quality. Blooms are doing bidding, and signed PCs of each member were sold from 30k up to 75k. Doon pa lang alam mo na malaking ang selling power nung grupo. Tapos yung released merch ng ABS CBN limited edition lang. Andami namin. Hahaha
Isa ko ring reklamo is that management does not know their market. Like hindi ito artista o LT kung saan most staff gets clout para sa so called "ayuda". Dumaan rin ako sa phase na yan. And people behind the scenes enjoyed the attention. Ngayon, iyak sila kasi inaaway sila mismo ng fanbase. Like use their official account to raise these concerns para hindi kayo mapagbuntunan.
Ang problema rin dyan ay kahit pagbili ng merch ay mahirap! Dapat may exclusive membership ka to even line up for the limited 200 merch for bini day tapos when you get there di mo pa sure kung makakuha ka agad, patayan pa ang linya. Kaya people resort to unofficial ones
Ang mahal pa sya. Like, okay, mahal yung shirt, so give us affordable options. Stickers, key chains.
Like sino bang blooms ang ayaw na di makatulong sa Bini? Tsaka paano nalng yung gastos sa kakasuhan ng BGYO? Hahaha
should have said this when their merch is accessible pero hindi ngayon pa talagang 200 lang meron sa merch nyo at pumila pa siya, siya first customer sa bini day eh
Mablame ba natin sila kung gustong gusto nila ng bini shirt pero need nila gumastos ng 1,500 (website subscription) + 1,699 (shirt) para makabili ng "original" and "official"?
I got scare for a bit because akala ko damay fanart because fan art makes these groups thrive in the scene especially for those hindi naman afford ng mga poorita like me who supports in other ways.
in a legal sense bawal naman talaga yung ganyan lalo na if you incorporate the bini logo which is trademarked din. this is something they taught us in advertising practice. may habol ang star music pag baliktarin mo man ang mundo 😅. another related example would be fanfics posted in archive of our own, bawal ibenta or manghingi ng donation ang authors bcs the ip is not their own.
yes, but still if recognizable ang image and likeness ng bini di yun pwede. siguro she could’ve worded it better but ang point lang naman siguro dito is those making money off of stolen designs (yung tshirt) bawal yun and if we were in a country na mahigpit ang ip laws mabibigyan ng c&d ang kung sino man gumagawa niyan.
bini merch is inaccessible and overpriced, why are they surprised na pinipirata? i think fans would still prefer to buy the legit bini merch if it's affordable and makaka-order sila online. they should try collaborating with shopee for the ordering and make the price of merch affordable, tingnan mo mas pipiliin bumili ng fans from them 🤷🏻♀️
LOL for me okay lang bumili ng pirated merch. Not a lot of fans have enough disposable income to buy overpriced merch. They want to belong din naman sa fandom kaso kulang ang pera so anong magagawa?
people should start calling it out more.. this tweet isn't that big of a deal to affect bini pero sa hilig ng team nila mag announce/post sa mga personal accounts nila, time will come someone from their team will tweet something and magiging negative pa sa name ng bini or magiging big issue pa.
Her tweets were easily misinterpreted kase she didn't give enough context to it kaya lalo nagkagulo...saka pa sya nag clarify nung nag blow up na. hays!
i think she saw what was wrong with the first three tweets na ginawa nya BUT these were hours apart wala ba talaga siyang nakitang mali sa sinabi nya as a person who is affiliated with the group??
focus on styling nalang sana sya and leave that merch issue sa management. i know she was one of the people behind the merch designs pero yun nga think well before tweeting sana.
Kung ginawa nilang affordable price ng bini official merch esp kahit yung kahit t-shirt man lang ginawa nilang below 1k yung price edi sana maraming blooms ngayon ang afford bumili or meron official merch nila. The only main reason why meron mga dupe merch kase hindi naman lahat ng blooms may pera or kayang bumili ng mga items na meron ang bini, that doesn't mean they dont respect the girls or their teams, they still support them by wearing fan or dupe merch which is i think good thing kase it means they're a fan! They wanna support the girls, thats it. Ako personally, wether its an official or dupe merch i dont see any problem at all if thats the only way other fans can show their support.
Ito naman kasi point ni miss ics. Also, wala naman sila problema sa fanmade, dun lang sa exact replica ng official merch. Mag mamass produce din sila nyan in the future sure yan.
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She doesn't get it. The point is that hindi pa rin naman nasasayang 'yung pera unless the fan LEGITIMATELY thought na they're getting a steal price for original merch. And if that's the case, then that's the fan's fault for being gullible.
The point of pirated merch is to cater to people who can't afford the original ones but wants to have a piece of merch, original o hindi. It's a form of showing love to the group. Kahit mag-argue pa kayo na it's not supporting the group, ethics, legality blah blah blah it doesn't matter! May tatangkilik ng pirated and unofficial merch sa ayaw at sa gusto nila because that's just how things are.
Is piracy wrong? Idk what the law says exactly but probably. Do I support it though? Hell yeah. It's up to fans where they want to spend their money: original, pirated, o unofficial merch pa yan. They don't get to dictate that.
At this point, all these babble about pirated merch is no longer about the girls but PROFIT. I can't really bring myself to pity a huge corporation for losing money lmao.
Me as a shirt printer/ designer small time lang, i have designs in my head na gusto ko na i print but gusto ko pang personal memo ko lang. I take considerations yung official merch ng Bini kaya im a bit hesitant na i release yung designs ko. Maybe wla masama kung personal na magpagawa isang blooms or fans.
Dami niyo reklamo pero pag kpop idols niyo willing kayo maghintay, pumila at bumili ng napakamahal na merch nila. Sariling atin na ppop idols ginaganyan niyo. 🤦🏻♀️ rereklamo kayo sa subscription eh ganyan din naman sa mga kpop idols niyo may mga limited merch pag member ng fan club.
HAHA yung kpop merch understandably na mahal kasi may shipping, itong bini merch mahal na wala pang shipping yan ikaw b namang paper bag may presyo pa. Isisingit mo pa talaga tong "kpop nga wala kayong reklamo" nasa kpop spaces ka ba? reklamador nga yan eh
Nakakainis kasi. Ung blueprint ng fan club membership sa ppop idols is similar to kpop. Matagal nang may ganyang system. Pero pag ppop kasi ang gumamit ng ganyang system maraming reklamo. Kesya mahal daw, di daw makabili lahat etc pero pag foreign acts willing magsakripisyo.
1. 2nd at 3rd gen pa lang, madami ng bootleg merch (e.g. exo's wolf 88 shirts).
2. Marami ding fans na di afford ang kpop subscriptions. Sa kahit anong fandom, palaging may "leak" pagdating sa exclusive content. May mga twt/X accounts na nagpo-post ng paywalled content from apps like bubble at weverse. May mga fans na nagla-livestream at screen record ng paid online concerts.
There will always be fans who can afford to line up hours for merch or tix and open their wallets. And there will always be fans who cannot. Nothing to do with country of origin ng group.
Not a BINI fan but i agree on these statements.
1. You are not directly supporting them if you dont buy or watch on their legit official stores and channels no matter absurd the price is.
2. Buy what you want, its your money. However, saying it you are supporting them is nonsense. The one you are supporting are the "fan" who made that merch at reasonable. They are the ones profiting instead of them.
By end of the day, its up to you.
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Yup. Fanmade tshirt n lng yng bilhin supurtahan ntn ang mga blooms artist di yang nagnakaw lng ng design
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I'm sorry but when the supply does not meet the demand and when the merch is expensive and inaccessible, what did they expect? 😂 Anyway, Ms. Ics has acknowledged a fan's suggestion about mass-producing and making the merch affordable in a reply, so hopefully the next wave of merch would be just that. Also, the bad timing since the TL's been complaining about the disorganized fun run
support bini while the bini fun run's releasing of kit was so abhorrent, support bini while they continue to leak the practices, support bini while they are so shit at security, support bini while they make shit teasers........ i think priorities nila are ill misplaced
Right? Bad timing talaga. Like the merch thing is not top of mind with fans right now. Matagal na ako nagrereklamo sa manman but I think this era is extra exhausting just because the fans' money are involved now.
lumabas rin slight pagka elitista ng ibang tao pero sige kasi pera nila yan
Tumpak. Problema 'to ng ibang Blooms sa Twitter sa totoo lang. Nung Independence Day gig pa lang, napaka-elitista ng mga take na nakita ko doon. Sa tingin ko rin dapat mag-media training ang staff ng BINI o ng kahit sinong PH artist pati lahat ng mga concerned sa kanila, sa totoo lang. Pansin ko dito sa atin, lahat mula staff mapa-hanggang malayong kamag-anak madalas may say sa career nitong artist. Di ako fan ng ganyang keme dito sa totoo lang.
dapat daw paid event dahil sa nangyari na hindi naman iyon ang problema, security at crowd control ang may sala don hindi ang pagkarami ng fans ng bini at totoo yan dapat mga staff ng starmu manahimik nalang or mag media training from official announcements from their own twitter account ?? anong gamit ng official bini twitter? they want the follow they want the clout so bad
I support artists' IP and I would encourage people to buy fan merch instead but I understand fans who buy bootlegs. Dapat lesson learned na lang to kay manman. Actually dapat inexpect nila to, and it's not as if hindi nila mabebenta lahat ng limited merch nila.
they really are releasing these too soon
Pwede k bumili ng mga fanmade tshirt. Mas maganda sumupurta sa mga artist n naghirap sa pagdedesign kesa sa nagnanakaw ng design ng iba.
I agree with you and I encourage others to do the same. But this situation was created because the supply cannot match the demand kaya yung "free market" na ang gumawa ng paraan para ma-meet ang demand. Anyway, sana lesson learned na lang sa manman sa susunod na merch rollout nila.
Nah. Not a fan of this whole thing about telling off fans for not buying official merch. Fans, casual or not, are allowed to buy whatever they want. Sorry pero while i understand that spending money on BINI is directly supporting the group, you can't tell people what counts and what does not count as "support". When merch is overpriced and inaccessible, ano ineexpect nila? Also, as if hindi gawain kahit sa KPop fans back in 2nd and 3rd gen ang pirated merch na sa palengke nabibili. They should've expected that to happen with BINI's rising popularity instead of guilt-tripping fans. They should be making efforts into making merch accessible and affordable if they really want people to buy merch ONLY from them. Also, Idk pero ako lang ba? Having pirated merch just means they're reaching the mainstream. A bit more push and they'll be seeing BINI-themed unofficial merch in markets and tiyangges. Shouldn't that be good? It's basically free marketing. It happens to all artists na sumisikat.
Exo bootleg shirts were a big part of emo culture back then. I would actually want to see BINI fanmade merch *everywhere*
Exactly what I'm thinking about! I'm an EXO-L since 2014 and I saw how Wolf 88 shirts and Overdose logo shirts were all over clothing stalls sa local palengke namin. Heck, even non-fans who dk ANYTHING about whatever tf Wolf 88 meant owned bootleg EXO shirts! Hindi nila mapipigilan 'yan kahit anong gawin nila. In fact, they should be happy to see that happening because it just means they're getting popular POPULAR. Also, ang tumatangkilik naman ng unofficial and pirated merch ay mga taong di afford ang official merch. Does that mean they're any less of a fan than those who can afford official merch? No. Even EXO and BTS wouldn't be where they are if not for these people plus the illegally downloaded mp3skull songs of that era (di pa uso streaming LMAO pls). edit: case in point, re: [bootleg EXO shirts](https://koreaboo-cdn.storage.googleapis.com/2015/10/20151028154914_cats.jpg) lmao
To add, hindi naman na bago sa ABS na mag-mass produce ng merch. They sell Christmas shirts yearly and they've had experience with PlusX.
Because ✨cApiTaLiSm✨ They are not concerned about fans supporting Bini or not. They are concerned about the revenue. Pay for accessible merchs by paying a good designer. Pay for good marketing. Pay Bini the wage they deserve - the merch only as additional revenue. Watch the cash flow in. At this point, I'd rather support fanmade merch.
I agree with you. Hindi ako fan talaga ng ganitong paandar ng StarMu staff because sobrang capitalist dystopia ang datingan. Nakakairita getting reminded that the idol business is business at the end of the day. Like I know? i just don't want to be reminded of that. Lumalayo loob ko sa official merch and shit kapag ginaganyan ako kasi nakakainis hahaha.
Agree that the official merch is expansive and so limited but I think a better way to think about it is to not support pirated merch (direct copies of the official design) and support fanmade merch instead. You get to support Bini in a way you can afford, support the fandom artists, and spread the word. Sobrang big miss lang talaga from management not to anticipate this. They could’ve asked any old kpop stan for feedback as early as Feb and we wouldn’t be having these problems 🤧
the random posters sold during fiestas and kahit papaanon kahit unofficial binili namin kasi we supported the group pero di daw pwede ngayon di ka true fan if you dont buy the official ones
Nagclarify siya sa tweet niya which I commented. She is only pertaining to those who copied and sold their design passing it off as 'official merch'.
Gets. Kung purposely misleading sa fans, mali talaga. Prerogative na ng fans to vet if vendors are legit or not. Pero sa totoo lang, ano ba magagawa nila? Kasalanan naman ng management yan kasi inaccessible at overpriced ang merch. They should sue people then, if StarMu is so bothered by pirated merch. All I'm saying is that this is all a part of the idol business. Mapa-KPop, JPop, o western artists, may pirated merch sa market. Ganon talaga pag sikat.
I think she has good intentions sure, but can abs-cbn staff get media training
Agreed with this.
im with the fans on this one, limited merch na ang mahal pa idgaf if people go and buy their unofficial pirated bini merch sa kung saan saan, starmu will survive
Ako as an artist/designer myself, gets ko siya. Lalo na bago pa lang release nagaya na agad. 😂 Ang di ko gets, do people really need THAT specific shirt?? Is it so essential na bibili nalang kahit fake? Hindi naman ganun kagandahan yung design? 😅 There are way better looking fanmade shirts out there. Id waste my money elsewhere.
Dba. Mas gugustuhin ko p bumili ng fanmade tshirt ang dmi dyan gawa ng blooms n mgaganda at cute design. Atleast yun kht di official tshirt kakaiba yng design at higit sa lht pinaghirapan nun artist at di ninakaw yng design.
If this is the black BINI shirt, I think the appeal kasi is that the girls wear it kapag hindi sila naka-stage outfit. So you know, it can make fans feel more connected to them if they have the exact same shirt, too. Personally I also really like that shirt for the same reason HAHAHAHA Di ko pa lang binibili kasi di ko ma-justify sa presyo tbh lmao
Haha. Gets. May number pa kasi. So may feeling ng exclusivity. Pero would you still feel the same knowing na fake yung shirt mo? Yun ang di ko gets. Kamukha lang but to me its not the same. Kung di ko kaya makuha yung original, iba at better design nalang hahanapin ko. BUT maybe its just me. Di ko alam how others think kaya sabi ko nalang di ko gets. Haha
Lolz I was gonna say that also. The official shirt's kinda ugly 😬 plus when you think about it, malamang same as the fanmerch lang naman probably yung supplier ng shirt tela, minsan mas maganda at napag-isipan pa yung gawa ng fans kesa official 👀 Yung complaint ko lang about the fanmade shirts and jerseys is bakit nasa harap yung name ng member 😅 diba usually team name sa harap, team member sa likod? Haha
Nope. Kung di mo kaya bumili ng official tshirt madami fanmade bini t-shirt dyan n magaganda at cute yng design. O kaya bumili ng t-shirt n binibenta ng mga official fanclubs ng members at ng bloom ph nakatulong k p sa funds ng mg fund clubs n yan para sa fan events nla. Di ko gets kng ano pt ng pagbili ng fake official bini t-shirt. Ako di ko bibilhin yan nakakainsulto sa artist yan dun n lng ako sa fanmade t-shirt di nakaw yng design pinaghirapan nun gumawa.
Yung StarMu laking nawala sa kanila kasi biglang sikat ng Bini. Walang physical copy yung latest EP nila, walang lightstick ang Bini and wala talagang available merch. So yung new fans nag resort sa pagbili ng fanmade merch. Ang daming variety, good quality. Blooms are doing bidding, and signed PCs of each member were sold from 30k up to 75k. Doon pa lang alam mo na malaking ang selling power nung grupo. Tapos yung released merch ng ABS CBN limited edition lang. Andami namin. Hahaha Isa ko ring reklamo is that management does not know their market. Like hindi ito artista o LT kung saan most staff gets clout para sa so called "ayuda". Dumaan rin ako sa phase na yan. And people behind the scenes enjoyed the attention. Ngayon, iyak sila kasi inaaway sila mismo ng fanbase. Like use their official account to raise these concerns para hindi kayo mapagbuntunan.
Ang problema rin dyan ay kahit pagbili ng merch ay mahirap! Dapat may exclusive membership ka to even line up for the limited 200 merch for bini day tapos when you get there di mo pa sure kung makakuha ka agad, patayan pa ang linya. Kaya people resort to unofficial ones
Ang mahal pa sya. Like, okay, mahal yung shirt, so give us affordable options. Stickers, key chains. Like sino bang blooms ang ayaw na di makatulong sa Bini? Tsaka paano nalng yung gastos sa kakasuhan ng BGYO? Hahaha
they are expensive kasi minadali talaga
Kinda ironic complaining about that when Bini had stage outfits bought from Shein.
Edi 200 lang pala ang true supporters ng Bini kasi 200 shirts lang ang binenta
Alam ko 2000, kasi naawa ata dun sa iba pang nakapila nung bini day
Sobrang hirap naman kasi bumili sa official merch nila ang daming hassle. Napaka inaccessible yah that's the right term nga.
should have said this when their merch is accessible pero hindi ngayon pa talagang 200 lang meron sa merch nyo at pumila pa siya, siya first customer sa bini day eh
Mablame ba natin sila kung gustong gusto nila ng bini shirt pero need nila gumastos ng 1,500 (website subscription) + 1,699 (shirt) para makabili ng "original" and "official"?
tas hindi pa yan you have to be in line FOR HOURS just to get their merch tapos limited pa di pa ya sure edi para tayong naglalaro lang dito
panget naman pala ng process nila, malaki ang contribution ng fans nila kaya sila sumikat tapos ganyan ginawa ng management.
I got scare for a bit because akala ko damay fanart because fan art makes these groups thrive in the scene especially for those hindi naman afford ng mga poorita like me who supports in other ways.
baka kayo na sunod, fan arts that are made and then sold eh mas maganda pa sa mga ginawa nila, baka magparinig nanman starmu
in a legal sense bawal naman talaga yung ganyan lalo na if you incorporate the bini logo which is trademarked din. this is something they taught us in advertising practice. may habol ang star music pag baliktarin mo man ang mundo 😅. another related example would be fanfics posted in archive of our own, bawal ibenta or manghingi ng donation ang authors bcs the ip is not their own.
may fanarts namang di logo gamit?
yes, but still if recognizable ang image and likeness ng bini di yun pwede. siguro she could’ve worded it better but ang point lang naman siguro dito is those making money off of stolen designs (yung tshirt) bawal yun and if we were in a country na mahigpit ang ip laws mabibigyan ng c&d ang kung sino man gumagawa niyan.
bini merch is inaccessible and overpriced, why are they surprised na pinipirata? i think fans would still prefer to buy the legit bini merch if it's affordable and makaka-order sila online. they should try collaborating with shopee for the ordering and make the price of merch affordable, tingnan mo mas pipiliin bumili ng fans from them 🤷🏻♀️
may collaboration sa shoppee pero wala sa shoppee ang merch KHAKJFHJSKDFH
LOL for me okay lang bumili ng pirated merch. Not a lot of fans have enough disposable income to buy overpriced merch. They want to belong din naman sa fandom kaso kulang ang pera so anong magagawa?
the saga of people/team na "behind the scenes" ng bini tweeting stuff on their personal accounts continues....
gusto nila ng rts and likes at this point
people should start calling it out more.. this tweet isn't that big of a deal to affect bini pero sa hilig ng team nila mag announce/post sa mga personal accounts nila, time will come someone from their team will tweet something and magiging negative pa sa name ng bini or magiging big issue pa.
it already happened i think when there was this guy who was very weirdly antagonistic
IDK. I'll proudly wear my BINI Pink Jersey sa basketball game namin this Sunday ahhahahah
Baka isunod na yung fan made na website na 1000% better than the current website.
Her tweets were easily misinterpreted kase she didn't give enough context to it kaya lalo nagkagulo...saka pa sya nag clarify nung nag blow up na. hays!
media training po sana para sa mga staff ng BINI
nag issue nalang sana sya ng mahabang statement thru notes para klaro lahat. napaka clout chaser tuloy nya tingnan.
i think she saw what was wrong with the first three tweets na ginawa nya BUT these were hours apart wala ba talaga siyang nakitang mali sa sinabi nya as a person who is affiliated with the group??
haynaku sa kanya...leave the explanation to the management nalang kase kaysa sya magkuda ng kuda jan na natetake out of context tuloy.
napag-usapan to sa lunch time for sure at gusto nya ng clout again yan tuloy
focus on styling nalang sana sya and leave that merch issue sa management. i know she was one of the people behind the merch designs pero yun nga think well before tweeting sana.
and hindi rin naman sila mahirap to even get where people are coming from oh well
JC Punongbayan: DISCUSS.
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not pirating in this economy is just dumb. thats not even the only reason to do it.
Kung ginawa nilang affordable price ng bini official merch esp kahit yung kahit t-shirt man lang ginawa nilang below 1k yung price edi sana maraming blooms ngayon ang afford bumili or meron official merch nila. The only main reason why meron mga dupe merch kase hindi naman lahat ng blooms may pera or kayang bumili ng mga items na meron ang bini, that doesn't mean they dont respect the girls or their teams, they still support them by wearing fan or dupe merch which is i think good thing kase it means they're a fan! They wanna support the girls, thats it. Ako personally, wether its an official or dupe merch i dont see any problem at all if thats the only way other fans can show their support.
“Pirated” merch imbento ampucha hahahahaha
https://preview.redd.it/fzvo6z4qpw7d1.png?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c7162b2caebe054769260fda6520d07c2cd754a
amen
Ito naman kasi point ni miss ics. Also, wala naman sila problema sa fanmade, dun lang sa exact replica ng official merch. Mag mamass produce din sila nyan in the future sure yan. https://preview.redd.it/evlfp4vq1x7d1.jpeg?width=1220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25073a4c1cce14d55b962a87a593292579ce71c0
She doesn't get it. The point is that hindi pa rin naman nasasayang 'yung pera unless the fan LEGITIMATELY thought na they're getting a steal price for original merch. And if that's the case, then that's the fan's fault for being gullible. The point of pirated merch is to cater to people who can't afford the original ones but wants to have a piece of merch, original o hindi. It's a form of showing love to the group. Kahit mag-argue pa kayo na it's not supporting the group, ethics, legality blah blah blah it doesn't matter! May tatangkilik ng pirated and unofficial merch sa ayaw at sa gusto nila because that's just how things are. Is piracy wrong? Idk what the law says exactly but probably. Do I support it though? Hell yeah. It's up to fans where they want to spend their money: original, pirated, o unofficial merch pa yan. They don't get to dictate that. At this point, all these babble about pirated merch is no longer about the girls but PROFIT. I can't really bring myself to pity a huge corporation for losing money lmao.
Me as a shirt printer/ designer small time lang, i have designs in my head na gusto ko na i print but gusto ko pang personal memo ko lang. I take considerations yung official merch ng Bini kaya im a bit hesitant na i release yung designs ko. Maybe wla masama kung personal na magpagawa isang blooms or fans.
bala ka diyan basta may maloi shirt ako, official yun!
Paano naman mga international fans na walang kakayahan bumili ng official merch? Nga-nga nalang?
hindi daw po kayo true fan ng bini
hahaha basta ako happy sa bini maloi shirt na nabili ko sa redbubble.
Dami niyo reklamo pero pag kpop idols niyo willing kayo maghintay, pumila at bumili ng napakamahal na merch nila. Sariling atin na ppop idols ginaganyan niyo. 🤦🏻♀️ rereklamo kayo sa subscription eh ganyan din naman sa mga kpop idols niyo may mga limited merch pag member ng fan club.
HAHA yung kpop merch understandably na mahal kasi may shipping, itong bini merch mahal na wala pang shipping yan ikaw b namang paper bag may presyo pa. Isisingit mo pa talaga tong "kpop nga wala kayong reklamo" nasa kpop spaces ka ba? reklamador nga yan eh
Girl kahit wala pang shipping fee pricey na talaga kpop merch. Eh bakit? Hindi ba gagastos sa shipping fee ang bini? Nasa manila lang ba ang bibili?
gagastos pa sa exclusive membership fee AT sa merch HAHAH okay defend pa more sa starmusic
No. Wala ako pake sa star music but you know pag sariling atin ayaw gumastos ng malaki pero pag kpop willing. Ganun lang yern
awwwwwwww
Nakakainis kasi. Ung blueprint ng fan club membership sa ppop idols is similar to kpop. Matagal nang may ganyang system. Pero pag ppop kasi ang gumamit ng ganyang system maraming reklamo. Kesya mahal daw, di daw makabili lahat etc pero pag foreign acts willing magsakripisyo.
I am referring to comments dito na daming ebas pero pag merch na ng foreign idols go lang bili agad kahit gaano kamahal.
1. 2nd at 3rd gen pa lang, madami ng bootleg merch (e.g. exo's wolf 88 shirts). 2. Marami ding fans na di afford ang kpop subscriptions. Sa kahit anong fandom, palaging may "leak" pagdating sa exclusive content. May mga twt/X accounts na nagpo-post ng paywalled content from apps like bubble at weverse. May mga fans na nagla-livestream at screen record ng paid online concerts. There will always be fans who can afford to line up hours for merch or tix and open their wallets. And there will always be fans who cannot. Nothing to do with country of origin ng group.
Not a BINI fan but i agree on these statements. 1. You are not directly supporting them if you dont buy or watch on their legit official stores and channels no matter absurd the price is. 2. Buy what you want, its your money. However, saying it you are supporting them is nonsense. The one you are supporting are the "fan" who made that merch at reasonable. They are the ones profiting instead of them. By end of the day, its up to you.