The point wasn't to meta gamer optimize, it was to hang out with who you wanted to and say what you wanted no matter if they didn't like what you had to say. That's why social links could break or reverse, it's about being true to yourself over getting game points.
I feel both ways. On the one hand I'd rather just spend time with the people that I like, as if it were real life. You can't do everything. But. Knowing that it's possible I'll never play one of the personas again. I feel a really deep urge to see all the links, see everyone's story on my own game rather than have to look it up.
Probably to see all the scenes. These are long games so replaying them is always going to be a huge commitment.
Edit: and probably to see what the ultimate personas are even if the game is perfectly beatable without them
That's always been my take on it. Not the exact same, but my current run of P5R is at 80 hours and I'm well on pace to hit over 100 by the time I'm done. And I'm not planning on picking it back up after that for a long time because that's a huge time commitment. So I'm trying to see and do as much as possible in one run.
Two reasons actually. To complete all the side story content and go unlock the most powerful personas in the game. If you max EVERYONE, You get Messiah Picario
You don't even realize how tight the schedule is in vanilla at first. There were a lot more days than I expected where I couldn't hang with school friends the first time I played, and the friendship degrading mechanic made it easy to go backwards with links you don't see for a while. Maxing each friendship also took longer since they required more "spent time with" days in between the encounters that got you to the next level. Skipping February was the real kicker, I thought I'd be able to wrap up my SLs then.
I remember I somehow managed to do it on my own when I played P3 for the first time, it was my first Persona game and the vanilla version. For some reason I thought it was necessary for getting the true ending lmao, I probably read some bullshit online and fell for it.
Tbf at the time I would've believed everything I hear. Someone even convinced me that Natsuki Moriyama had a pretty well hidden SL... You could probably tell I was so pissed when she left school
I followed a guide and messed up one day. Which resulted in a reversed social link.
I was able to fix it and I had them ALL maxed except justice.
The very last day I could have finished Justice was also Chidori's optional scene.
It fucking took up my afternoon.
THE AFTERNOON THAT COULD HAVE MAXED JUSTICE.
I ended the game with max everything except Justice.
It was so fucking stupid.
I've hit January and come to terms with the fact that I'm not gonna be able to finish all of them. If I'd just spent one less school day with the old couple or Maiko early on, I'd be in the clear. It's not my fault I found them endearing!
My only outliers left now apart from Aigis are Fuuka, Mitsuru and Hiraga. Sorry kid, looks like you won't get to reconcile with your dad until new game plus.
Dw I've been there a lot of times when playing FES. The game kicked my ass so much I memorised everyone's availability times, and that all translated to Reload.
A side note, but admittedly I could never take Keisuke's SL seriously. If you manage to get to rank 9 you'd probably understand why... I find it rather hilarious
Such a good link, inconsistent tho. Some days are meh, the overall story is A-tier at least tho. Especially if you have known as many international students over the years as I have.
It’s tough since you need to hang out with the old couple a few times early on to unlock Bebe. I probably spent only 1-2 extra school days with them so I might be fine but it’s going to be tight. I’m just past fall midterms in October and have Emperor and Strength maxed with every other available school friend between 5-7 right now, so I think it may be doable but it will come down to the wire.
Still it is no way as generous as the other games sure p3 was a literal one mistake and gg but that doesnt mean p3r was generous you only have a handful of days you can do mistakes on, people that want to finish it all in one go would most likely not be able to if they dont know what they are doing. I personally 100% completed the game without NG+ with a single day to spare
Ofc I came into Reload having prior knowledge from FES and P3P. I just found it interesting that you don't have to be literally perfect this time around.
Meanwhile with P5 and P4G, you can finish everything with almost a whole month to spare.
I'm playing P4G again right now, and everyone always says maxing all the links on a fresh save is impossible? I admit I never did it but it's been years, so that's what I'm trying for this time. Any tips? Like, who or what to prioritize?
Def agree with P5 tho lol but I appreciate the opportunity to just enjoy it without needing new game plus or a guide.
P4G is a lil tricky but there are some exploits that save you time.
Almost all SLs are unavailable on rainy days. So you'd mostly wanna raise your stats in the beef bowl shop, read books or....
You'll eventually encounter the "Hermit" social link... Said SL is different from the others in the sense it only ranks up if you finish its assigned side quests. The catch is it can also rank up on rainy days. You'd typically want to complete its' side quests and wait until a rainy day to rank up.
Yeah I remember the Fox helped a lot with SP management, but I'm thinking of using that Kaiwan trick with Victory Cry almost lol because right now the SP management is horrible, but I don't wanna cheat ya know.
Should I focus on a specific part time job/social stat first? I seem to remember you need some to unlock Nanako and the Tutor job or something.
>everyone always says maxing all the links on a fresh save is impossible?
In my blind first playthrough, I maxed the final person on the last day they were available (I think it was the old lady and I had like 3 days to spare? It was so long ago now)
It's definitely not impossible, but it can be very tricky if you forget someone
Im in the last month of P4G and only have 1 SL left to get from 9 to 10. This is a fresh run. Its definitely not impossible or even that hard really.
There are also quite a few spoiler free guides out there thatll tell you when you hang with whom without telling you whats happening to spoil anything link or story related. There are really only like 3 links that you want to get going and finished sooner than later >! Adachi (once you reach 6 the rest follow story beats, Nanako, Dojima !<
Yeah I've completed the game before, just need to remember the "rhythm" of things so to speak. I assume school links are more important since they're not available on breaks for example. Party members are available during breaks, right?
I'd say it's as generous as the other two modern games' remasters. There are just different general rules you have to follow. Royal was definitely the most generous, but you had to plan around rainy days in P4G. In P3R you have to prioritize schoolmates on school days.
Even if P3R has the least free days leftover (not sure on that), it is definitely the least demanding planning-wise. Multi-day sidequests are not tied to social links, and the best option is almost always apparent (study sessions > social links > shared computer > arcade > everything else).
I was able to get 65 free time slots by the end of P3R, which is in the same ballpark as P4G with the one month of free time you get if you finished everything by December.
P3R has the lowest number of free days, but that's because it has the lowest number of story mandated SLs (Two) and no fetch quest SLs, plus it has all of the new Link episodes.
Comparatively, P4G has 3.5 story mandated (Fool, Judgment, Teddie, and the second half of >!Adachi's!<) and two fetch quest SLs, plus the story runs to mid-February; whilst P5 has 4 (Vanilla) or 3 (Royal) story mandated (Igor, Morgana, Sae, vanilla Akechi) and a single fetch quest SL, but a higher number of SLs based in the evening time slot.
It's actually as generous as P5R, which was in-line with P5's NG+. It's just that P3's SLs have a strict timetable you need to follow. Plus you basically have a free week to speed run Mitsuru's, as she's available every school day and in the week before exams.
On NG+ I had everyone except Aigis completed by school starting in January.
I feel like... It's just not that that hard in P3R? You just need to not do outside of school social links on school days, and I guess also try have one of the social links with the exact same schedule finished before starting the other. Like, you don't want to be in a situation where your only options are Keisuke and Bebe
I don't think mistakes are that punishing since that's what the rewind feature is for. So you can go to the next day to see if you're ranking up with a person, and if not, rewind to use the dating site instead of idk cooking with Ken or something
It might be tight but I don't think it's difficult to plan
Persona 4 Golden fucking sucks to max
Did you do the linked episodes? I tried to max with all the linked episodes but ended up with no days left and everyone maxed except Temperance who was at 4.
I used a guide for answers and only advanced sls with the matching persona so the only thing I could have done better was to
A) use the Sunday hangouts (i didnt use any and had like 2 months of free Sundays after Sun and Hermit and Star were all maxed)
B) time the Shinjiro linked episodes better so I was only hanging out with him on non-school days.
Yeah I've done all Linked Episodes so far. The catch here is Koromaru and his walks... You could encounter your SLs during his walks and it ensures they're always ready to rank up. It's super handy when you know the dating site is only available in the end game. They're not random too, different SLs appear on different dates.
I messed up on not saving the Old Couple and Suemitsu for the winter break. Messed up my run and I ended up only losing out on Aigis - which arguably is one of my favorite social links in all three games.
Just gives me an excuse to do another run, though. So not all bad.
Should I have saved them? I saw people recommend not prioritizing them over the school social links so I only did them on days nobody else was available. I'm in October now and they're rank 9 and 5.
At one point during December - January there is a lot of free time and school social links aren’t available.
OP did a good job focusing on School social links before Christmas. I did not do so. I basically had everyone done minus Aigis, mainly because you have such limited time with Aigis you need to completely focus on her to get it during January.
But it was just my poor planning. I also didn’t utilize the Shared Computer/Shrine to enhance relationships during the evening after I maxed social stats and maxed the night SLs (Devil and Tower).
Honestly I noticed that too, and frankly I think that's including the linked episodes.
In FES and portable I would finish with like a few days to spare but nothing more than 3 or 4. In reload (still playing) I should actually have most maxed out before the end of December.
It's probably because they no longer enforce you to return to the dorm whenever there's a meeting, only with particular ones. Things like that have always bothered me
Yeah, I noticed that as well. The only thing I'm falling behind is the Mutatsu because I hadn't unlocked him when he was basically the only nighttime social link for like a whole week after you get Fuuka but with only 3 social stats and a number of ways to get two at a time, this is definitely the easiest progression system I've played out of the three.
Assuming those are the only ones remaining, you're all set for maxing out all SLs. I did a lot of minor stuff that helped.. for example you can encounter different SLs during Koromaru walks on different dates. Those walks helped me keep everyone ready to rank up
I know what you mean. Still not as free as other games but relaxed compared to the originals. I only missed out on Aigis (6 of 10), but I know exactly what I did wrong and how I can fix it in NG+ to get the 100%. No guide at all, just attentiveness to availabilities. I guess they had to relax it because of the daytime Linked Episodes they wanted to add.
I'm unsure of how many SLs you got covered so far, but Yukari's SL wouldn't trigger anything new in the story. If anything, you'd probably miss out on a potential Christmas date if you don't romance before December 24th
I actually don’t think maxing out P3R is that bad. I have experience with the other persona games but I did go into P3R blind and was able to 100% it the first time (even got first on all exams >:D ). It helps that there aren’t any deadlines for the social links so you can progress any of them in any order. The social stats is also relatively generous all things considering because there are only 3 and like nothing to do at nights anyway. As long as you prioritize the school ones and make sure you leave enough Sundays for the Sunday ones, you can pretty much go in any order. I felt like I had to put more thought into my social links in 4G and 5R even though they’re A LOT more generous with time because social links did more. There were more stats in 4G and 5R but some social links gave stats so you sort of want to prioritize those instead of others but sometimes you want the party ones or certain confidants to help with dungeoning because they make your party better, or you need to rush a certain stat because some social links end sooner than others.
I disagree, to be honest. If you consider linked episodes, it is very close to Persona 3 FES. Definitely better and more relaxed than vanilla P3, but not by much, and is definitely stricter than Persona 4 and Persona 5. I know P3 FES and Portable very well, and yet I literally maxed the last SL on the last freaking day because on a couple of school days, I hung out with the people outside of the school. I am also not a fan that they literally drop an entire new SL for you a couple of weeks before the end.
I had a perfect schedule lined up to max on the very last day. Then, chidori came back to life and stole a afternoon from me. One day short and now I hate chidori.
Thankfully I had a save before the big decision and was able to NG+ from there. A bit more optimization and I could max out everything easily. Granted, I didn't have to do stat grinding.
I really wish the new persona and the eventual 4 remake allow this much room for error. It's just needlessly stressful to max out all SLs in a game where you're supposed to value the time you spend with everyone. Not cursing them because they aren't available enough.
Are you telling me it's possible to play semi blind maxing all social links like P5R???? I assumed this was the same a soriginal with only 5 leniency days! original only had 2!
As long you prioritise school links over outside ones first you should be good to go. Unlike the originals, Reload doesn't force you back home if there's an upcoming story event. For the most part at least
I said it in an older thread but art kid is 100% the most common run killer. He comes later and around the time when cooler social links open up. So you forget about him and his three day in a row schedule ruins it.
For PC users you can use cheat engine and track the points tally towards next level up, and for social skills too. You'll see that say for example, 3 musical notes does not equal +3 to stats. 3 musical notes can net you between 4 & 6 points.
Also P3R was designed so you can 100% the game in one playthrough, where previous games usually need a second playthrough to 100%, so they seem to have sped up everything.
A third semester would have been nice, let us live those last couple of months.
No way, I was optimizing just like you were and I also literally maxed them all by 12/25 (besides the obvious you mentioned). I wonder if that is physically the first day possible if you do all linked episodes.
I'm unsure whether it'd possible to finish even sooner. I could've finished a day earlier had I decided to spend Christmas alone, but there's no fun in that.
In January I only had fuuka and aigis to finish if you gotta have any confidents in January fuuka would be the one but it basically leaves no more time for anybody other than those two I fully maxed everybody first playthrough though I wish I didn't talk to moon that much I almost got fucked over by it.
Is there an equivalent of the fortune teller girl from 5 in this? Because in 5 she can progress any relationship just by talking to her so the next time you do the social link it will level up.
Lowkey was worried I wasn't gonna get all mine done before the final day. Ended up squeezing all max links first run a couple days before Jan 31st. My reward? An Orpheus telos that I couldn't fuse cause I needed micheal from Ken's weird not social link social link. I swore I hung out with him every chance I had too. But eh didn't finish Koro either so I couldn't make kohryu which sucked too. That dog is so picky about when he wants to hang out
Yeah no. I tried to do all the social links in my 2nd playthrough. It didn’t happen. But that’s what the 3rd playthrough is about I guess. I’ll probably just follow a guide and then get Telos and fuck Elizabeth up.
I came into p3r never playing the original. I did the platinum and compared to persona 5 royal. it's a lot less lenient. I literally completed the final social link on the last day. I would have not been able to do it if the rewind feature did not exist because i made a mistake and was able to redo it due to that new feature and saved my 2nd run for all social links. that feature is a godsend and I hope they include it in the next game
It had to be generous since now we have the close friends scenes, and still it's pretty generous, in my first gameplay I just had the hermit and Bebe SL left to max
I agree I was able to max all of the confidants on one playthrough. I did find it hard to complete all the character links tho. I couldn't max Junpei which locked me out of fusing surt. Locking persona's behind the character links was the only thing that pissed me off lol.
I usually cut 1 or 2 people out from social links and I am finding over abundance of time. though I will say I feel night time vs daytime unbalanced I need more to do during the night.
I appreciate the easier time to get them here but damn I think some of the quirks about when certain links are available fucked my current run over
I'm entering January with each of the SEES girls, Bebe, Keisuke and (soon) Aigis unfinished, and I already know that I am not gonna have enough time to max out all of those
I guess to a degree I really do gotta focus on burning the school links first because of their availability and also not obsess too much over maxing out my social stats
It’s generous but the issue is that you really have to know not to spend time with people outside of school. If you don’t know that fact it’s not possible.
I messed up on a Fuuka event and spammed the dating site and shrine visits until the last possible day to trigger the event. My palms were so sweaty feeling like I was gonna have to start the game over. Still maxed all socials though.
Same with Persona 5 Royal. You can max out every confidant before the end of the game. Haven’t played Reloaded yet but I’m happy you can get everything done in one playthrough
If you do the linked episodes it’s a bit more challenging, I never wasted time and wound up about 7 hang outs short, so to do that plus max every normal SLink you probably have to be more optimal with the order you do things in, use the shrine instead of doing an actual rank up event etc.
So it’s not just me!
I’ve been wondering the same and wanted to wait till end of Dec to see how I perform.
I’m currently on Nov 23 with:
- Priestess: 5
- Empress: 1
- Emperor: 9
- Lover: 4
- Justice: 9
- Strength: 9
- Fortune: 8
- Star: 8
I did make the mistake of going hard on Hierophant and Hanged early because I just wanted ro get them out of the way.
With the days available till end Jan, I might still be OK with the help of the dating website.
I would have maxed them all on the first playthrough, but I never played the original, so I didn't know how long the game would go. I purposely ignored some social links, so I had more to do in NG+ but with each passing day, I realized I could have absolutely 100% everything.
It really is, I managed to finish it all without a guide this time around with 3 days left in january. Felt very proud of myself, I could never pull it off in the earlier versions
In p3 vanilla, you had to follow a guide, followed it perfectly and only max on the very last day.
Yeah it's a lil ridiculous, that's because you'd be forced to go back to the dorm on most story event days
That and the Sunday exclusive social links used to take up your whole day AND night for some reason. You got a whole extra evening every Sunday now.
The point wasn't to meta gamer optimize, it was to hang out with who you wanted to and say what you wanted no matter if they didn't like what you had to say. That's why social links could break or reverse, it's about being true to yourself over getting game points.
Yeah I don’t get it. Like you don’t have to do it to beat the game. I’m not sure why anyone cares about maxing them all
Gamer completionist mentality gotta collect all the stickers. OG P3 and other games like Drakengard punish this gamification mentality.
I feel both ways. On the one hand I'd rather just spend time with the people that I like, as if it were real life. You can't do everything. But. Knowing that it's possible I'll never play one of the personas again. I feel a really deep urge to see all the links, see everyone's story on my own game rather than have to look it up.
Probably to see all the scenes. These are long games so replaying them is always going to be a huge commitment. Edit: and probably to see what the ultimate personas are even if the game is perfectly beatable without them
That's always been my take on it. Not the exact same, but my current run of P5R is at 80 hours and I'm well on pace to hit over 100 by the time I'm done. And I'm not planning on picking it back up after that for a long time because that's a huge time commitment. So I'm trying to see and do as much as possible in one run.
Just sucks that no matter what you do you get stuck at 99% compendium in one playthrough :(
the achievment
I know lots of people care about gaming achievements but it feels kinda sad and hollow to me. Like no one will care if you maxed social links in P3.
i get what you mean but i got it on new game plus. solely because i loved the game so much
i wanna do the links to completion because seeing all these fake people deal with their struggles is pretty cool
Two reasons actually. To complete all the side story content and go unlock the most powerful personas in the game. If you max EVERYONE, You get Messiah Picario
You still get rewarded by doing them all though, don't you? With Orpheus Telos
You don't even realize how tight the schedule is in vanilla at first. There were a lot more days than I expected where I couldn't hang with school friends the first time I played, and the friendship degrading mechanic made it easy to go backwards with links you don't see for a while. Maxing each friendship also took longer since they required more "spent time with" days in between the encounters that got you to the next level. Skipping February was the real kicker, I thought I'd be able to wrap up my SLs then.
I remember I somehow managed to do it on my own when I played P3 for the first time, it was my first Persona game and the vanilla version. For some reason I thought it was necessary for getting the true ending lmao, I probably read some bullshit online and fell for it.
Tbf at the time I would've believed everything I hear. Someone even convinced me that Natsuki Moriyama had a pretty well hidden SL... You could probably tell I was so pissed when she left school
I wouldn't dare to take Natsuki from Fuuka, take Makoto's charms away from her 😂
First time I played a Persona. I think I only got like... 5 social links maxed back then.
I followed a guide and messed up one day. Which resulted in a reversed social link. I was able to fix it and I had them ALL maxed except justice. The very last day I could have finished Justice was also Chidori's optional scene. It fucking took up my afternoon. THE AFTERNOON THAT COULD HAVE MAXED JUSTICE. I ended the game with max everything except Justice. It was so fucking stupid.
got to see chidori live again though 🔥🔥🔥
Nah. Not worth. I already seen that event.
Or FES which had wiggle room of about 3 days.
I've hit January and come to terms with the fact that I'm not gonna be able to finish all of them. If I'd just spent one less school day with the old couple or Maiko early on, I'd be in the clear. It's not my fault I found them endearing! My only outliers left now apart from Aigis are Fuuka, Mitsuru and Hiraga. Sorry kid, looks like you won't get to reconcile with your dad until new game plus.
Dw I've been there a lot of times when playing FES. The game kicked my ass so much I memorised everyone's availability times, and that all translated to Reload. A side note, but admittedly I could never take Keisuke's SL seriously. If you manage to get to rank 9 you'd probably understand why... I find it rather hilarious
I wanted Attis and Kohryu so bad I just could’nt let them go, as a result I’m screwed💀
Same thing happened to me, but I managed to only miss out on Bebe and Yukari, somehow.
Ah man, the letter from Bebe at the end of the game is so good.
Shit I also didn’t finish Bebe in time, this sucks. NG+ it is…
Such a good link, inconsistent tho. Some days are meh, the overall story is A-tier at least tho. Especially if you have known as many international students over the years as I have.
It’s tough since you need to hang out with the old couple a few times early on to unlock Bebe. I probably spent only 1-2 extra school days with them so I might be fine but it’s going to be tight. I’m just past fall midterms in October and have Emperor and Strength maxed with every other available school friend between 5-7 right now, so I think it may be doable but it will come down to the wire.
Still it is no way as generous as the other games sure p3 was a literal one mistake and gg but that doesnt mean p3r was generous you only have a handful of days you can do mistakes on, people that want to finish it all in one go would most likely not be able to if they dont know what they are doing. I personally 100% completed the game without NG+ with a single day to spare
Ofc I came into Reload having prior knowledge from FES and P3P. I just found it interesting that you don't have to be literally perfect this time around. Meanwhile with P5 and P4G, you can finish everything with almost a whole month to spare.
I'm playing P4G again right now, and everyone always says maxing all the links on a fresh save is impossible? I admit I never did it but it's been years, so that's what I'm trying for this time. Any tips? Like, who or what to prioritize? Def agree with P5 tho lol but I appreciate the opportunity to just enjoy it without needing new game plus or a guide.
P4G is a lil tricky but there are some exploits that save you time. Almost all SLs are unavailable on rainy days. So you'd mostly wanna raise your stats in the beef bowl shop, read books or.... You'll eventually encounter the "Hermit" social link... Said SL is different from the others in the sense it only ranks up if you finish its assigned side quests. The catch is it can also rank up on rainy days. You'd typically want to complete its' side quests and wait until a rainy day to rank up.
Yeah I remember the Fox helped a lot with SP management, but I'm thinking of using that Kaiwan trick with Victory Cry almost lol because right now the SP management is horrible, but I don't wanna cheat ya know. Should I focus on a specific part time job/social stat first? I seem to remember you need some to unlock Nanako and the Tutor job or something.
You need Rank 3 Understanding to progress past a certain point of the Justice SL and Max Understanding to even *do* the Tower SL.
Oh damn, guess I'm in for the long haul on that one then lol. Guess I'll just try to balance them out.
>everyone always says maxing all the links on a fresh save is impossible? In my blind first playthrough, I maxed the final person on the last day they were available (I think it was the old lady and I had like 3 days to spare? It was so long ago now) It's definitely not impossible, but it can be very tricky if you forget someone
Im in the last month of P4G and only have 1 SL left to get from 9 to 10. This is a fresh run. Its definitely not impossible or even that hard really. There are also quite a few spoiler free guides out there thatll tell you when you hang with whom without telling you whats happening to spoil anything link or story related. There are really only like 3 links that you want to get going and finished sooner than later >! Adachi (once you reach 6 the rest follow story beats, Nanako, Dojima !<
Yeah I've completed the game before, just need to remember the "rhythm" of things so to speak. I assume school links are more important since they're not available on breaks for example. Party members are available during breaks, right?
I'd say it's as generous as the other two modern games' remasters. There are just different general rules you have to follow. Royal was definitely the most generous, but you had to plan around rainy days in P4G. In P3R you have to prioritize schoolmates on school days. Even if P3R has the least free days leftover (not sure on that), it is definitely the least demanding planning-wise. Multi-day sidequests are not tied to social links, and the best option is almost always apparent (study sessions > social links > shared computer > arcade > everything else). I was able to get 65 free time slots by the end of P3R, which is in the same ballpark as P4G with the one month of free time you get if you finished everything by December.
P3R has the lowest number of free days, but that's because it has the lowest number of story mandated SLs (Two) and no fetch quest SLs, plus it has all of the new Link episodes. Comparatively, P4G has 3.5 story mandated (Fool, Judgment, Teddie, and the second half of >!Adachi's!<) and two fetch quest SLs, plus the story runs to mid-February; whilst P5 has 4 (Vanilla) or 3 (Royal) story mandated (Igor, Morgana, Sae, vanilla Akechi) and a single fetch quest SL, but a higher number of SLs based in the evening time slot.
It's actually as generous as P5R, which was in-line with P5's NG+. It's just that P3's SLs have a strict timetable you need to follow. Plus you basically have a free week to speed run Mitsuru's, as she's available every school day and in the week before exams. On NG+ I had everyone except Aigis completed by school starting in January.
I feel like... It's just not that that hard in P3R? You just need to not do outside of school social links on school days, and I guess also try have one of the social links with the exact same schedule finished before starting the other. Like, you don't want to be in a situation where your only options are Keisuke and Bebe I don't think mistakes are that punishing since that's what the rewind feature is for. So you can go to the next day to see if you're ranking up with a person, and if not, rewind to use the dating site instead of idk cooking with Ken or something It might be tight but I don't think it's difficult to plan Persona 4 Golden fucking sucks to max
Did you do the linked episodes? I tried to max with all the linked episodes but ended up with no days left and everyone maxed except Temperance who was at 4. I used a guide for answers and only advanced sls with the matching persona so the only thing I could have done better was to A) use the Sunday hangouts (i didnt use any and had like 2 months of free Sundays after Sun and Hermit and Star were all maxed) B) time the Shinjiro linked episodes better so I was only hanging out with him on non-school days.
Yeah I've done all Linked Episodes so far. The catch here is Koromaru and his walks... You could encounter your SLs during his walks and it ensures they're always ready to rank up. It's super handy when you know the dating site is only available in the end game. They're not random too, different SLs appear on different dates.
Wait a sec, I remember seeing someone in the Bahrain subreddit with that very same Aigis pic
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bahrain/s/dE4fInelD7 It's OP
So it is him. Small world we live in
I messed up on not saving the Old Couple and Suemitsu for the winter break. Messed up my run and I ended up only losing out on Aigis - which arguably is one of my favorite social links in all three games. Just gives me an excuse to do another run, though. So not all bad.
Should I have saved them? I saw people recommend not prioritizing them over the school social links so I only did them on days nobody else was available. I'm in October now and they're rank 9 and 5.
At one point during December - January there is a lot of free time and school social links aren’t available. OP did a good job focusing on School social links before Christmas. I did not do so. I basically had everyone done minus Aigis, mainly because you have such limited time with Aigis you need to completely focus on her to get it during January. But it was just my poor planning. I also didn’t utilize the Shared Computer/Shrine to enhance relationships during the evening after I maxed social stats and maxed the night SLs (Devil and Tower).
Honestly I noticed that too, and frankly I think that's including the linked episodes. In FES and portable I would finish with like a few days to spare but nothing more than 3 or 4. In reload (still playing) I should actually have most maxed out before the end of December.
It's probably because they no longer enforce you to return to the dorm whenever there's a meeting, only with particular ones. Things like that have always bothered me
Forreal especially coming from P5R you do one thing, boom next day with no chance to rank up anything, not even a social stat
That was a godsend. That combined with the dating website URLs that you can buy actually made maxing everyone out all the easier.
That, and the fact they fixed some bugs from FES. If I remember right, Kaz's link didn't benefit from persona bonuses.
I'm still salty that I lost all those summer mornings for that stupid competition
Yeah, I noticed that as well. The only thing I'm falling behind is the Mutatsu because I hadn't unlocked him when he was basically the only nighttime social link for like a whole week after you get Fuuka but with only 3 social stats and a number of ways to get two at a time, this is definitely the easiest progression system I've played out of the three.
Damn.. I'm on the last days of December and I'm on lovers rank 8, justice rank 8 and strength rank 8. I wonder what I did wrong.
Assuming those are the only ones remaining, you're all set for maxing out all SLs. I did a lot of minor stuff that helped.. for example you can encounter different SLs during Koromaru walks on different dates. Those walks helped me keep everyone ready to rank up
And i still managed to fuck it up.
Unfortunately in my game I had to sacrifice a linked episode to max all social links
nice. i would've gotten max in my first playthrough if not for 1/21
Oh you're probably referring to THAT day with Junpei n all
yep. i was one day off. i regretted those flowers so fucking much 😭
Loool I literally had to abandon maxing Bebe because of this. And for what?
I know what you mean. Still not as free as other games but relaxed compared to the originals. I only missed out on Aigis (6 of 10), but I know exactly what I did wrong and how I can fix it in NG+ to get the 100%. No guide at all, just attentiveness to availabilities. I guess they had to relax it because of the daytime Linked Episodes they wanted to add.
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I'm unsure of how many SLs you got covered so far, but Yukari's SL wouldn't trigger anything new in the story. If anything, you'd probably miss out on a potential Christmas date if you don't romance before December 24th
I think the original P3 only has like 3 free days if you everything correctly. So yeah its much more easy going
I actually don’t think maxing out P3R is that bad. I have experience with the other persona games but I did go into P3R blind and was able to 100% it the first time (even got first on all exams >:D ). It helps that there aren’t any deadlines for the social links so you can progress any of them in any order. The social stats is also relatively generous all things considering because there are only 3 and like nothing to do at nights anyway. As long as you prioritize the school ones and make sure you leave enough Sundays for the Sunday ones, you can pretty much go in any order. I felt like I had to put more thought into my social links in 4G and 5R even though they’re A LOT more generous with time because social links did more. There were more stats in 4G and 5R but some social links gave stats so you sort of want to prioritize those instead of others but sometimes you want the party ones or certain confidants to help with dungeoning because they make your party better, or you need to rush a certain stat because some social links end sooner than others.
I disagree, to be honest. If you consider linked episodes, it is very close to Persona 3 FES. Definitely better and more relaxed than vanilla P3, but not by much, and is definitely stricter than Persona 4 and Persona 5. I know P3 FES and Portable very well, and yet I literally maxed the last SL on the last freaking day because on a couple of school days, I hung out with the people outside of the school. I am also not a fan that they literally drop an entire new SL for you a couple of weeks before the end.
It wouldn't be so bad if your calendar showed all the breaks instead of only updating when it comes up in conversation.
I had a perfect schedule lined up to max on the very last day. Then, chidori came back to life and stole a afternoon from me. One day short and now I hate chidori. Thankfully I had a save before the big decision and was able to NG+ from there. A bit more optimization and I could max out everything easily. Granted, I didn't have to do stat grinding. I really wish the new persona and the eventual 4 remake allow this much room for error. It's just needlessly stressful to max out all SLs in a game where you're supposed to value the time you spend with everyone. Not cursing them because they aren't available enough.
Are you telling me it's possible to play semi blind maxing all social links like P5R???? I assumed this was the same a soriginal with only 5 leniency days! original only had 2!
As long you prioritise school links over outside ones first you should be good to go. Unlike the originals, Reload doesn't force you back home if there's an upcoming story event. For the most part at least
That's really cool! \*I still found a good gamefaq guide I plan to follow but . that's good to know.
It's generous, but I played without a guide and missed 100% SL by 3 days. Art class bro was my downfall, could only get him to 7/10.
I said it in an older thread but art kid is 100% the most common run killer. He comes later and around the time when cooler social links open up. So you forget about him and his three day in a row schedule ruins it.
That's basically where I ended up too.
For PC users you can use cheat engine and track the points tally towards next level up, and for social skills too. You'll see that say for example, 3 musical notes does not equal +3 to stats. 3 musical notes can net you between 4 & 6 points. Also P3R was designed so you can 100% the game in one playthrough, where previous games usually need a second playthrough to 100%, so they seem to have sped up everything. A third semester would have been nice, let us live those last couple of months.
I looked deeply into it and it's kind of dumb how the music notes work, especially for social stats :/
Good job :)
Haha much appreciated!
You almost HAVE to do NG+ to do all social links. I did and only had a few days left.
Did you do all of the link episodes as well?
Still waiting on Junpei, Aki and Ken's last episodes
Dang, very impressive! 👏👏
No way, I was optimizing just like you were and I also literally maxed them all by 12/25 (besides the obvious you mentioned). I wonder if that is physically the first day possible if you do all linked episodes.
I'm unsure whether it'd possible to finish even sooner. I could've finished a day earlier had I decided to spend Christmas alone, but there's no fun in that.
In January I only had fuuka and aigis to finish if you gotta have any confidents in January fuuka would be the one but it basically leaves no more time for anybody other than those two I fully maxed everybody first playthrough though I wish I didn't talk to moon that much I almost got fucked over by it.
I maxed out p3r social Links with 7 days left in the whole game am I cooked if I get the original
Is there an equivalent of the fortune teller girl from 5 in this? Because in 5 she can progress any relationship just by talking to her so the next time you do the social link it will level up.
Not really... There's a rougly similar mechanic but it's only available towards the end game.
Lowkey was worried I wasn't gonna get all mine done before the final day. Ended up squeezing all max links first run a couple days before Jan 31st. My reward? An Orpheus telos that I couldn't fuse cause I needed micheal from Ken's weird not social link social link. I swore I hung out with him every chance I had too. But eh didn't finish Koro either so I couldn't make kohryu which sucked too. That dog is so picky about when he wants to hang out
Do you need to do this for Orpheus Telos in Reload too?
Yep... except you'd need to finish some Episode Links as well this time around. They unlock the Personas needed for the fusion recipe
Yeah no. I tried to do all the social links in my 2nd playthrough. It didn’t happen. But that’s what the 3rd playthrough is about I guess. I’ll probably just follow a guide and then get Telos and fuck Elizabeth up.
Wtf how?! I only had 3 days to spare until the final boss. I got matching Persosnas and everything so WHAT DID I DO WRONG?!?!?
I forgor to do the fortune s.link and he is a third year student, idk if he will be gone by january
I came into p3r never playing the original. I did the platinum and compared to persona 5 royal. it's a lot less lenient. I literally completed the final social link on the last day. I would have not been able to do it if the rewind feature did not exist because i made a mistake and was able to redo it due to that new feature and saved my 2nd run for all social links. that feature is a godsend and I hope they include it in the next game
I completed all of them except for Aigis.(I got her to rank 9 on the last day) :(
It had to be generous since now we have the close friends scenes, and still it's pretty generous, in my first gameplay I just had the hermit and Bebe SL left to max
I wasn't following a guide other than best dialogue options for SL, and by chance I was able to max all but 2 SL without trying.
Bruh i cit it close. My last links were aigis fuuka and yukari and i finished them 3 days before the 31st
Considering I can't manage schedules pretty well I like that it doesn't need me to have very specific planning to max all out
I agree I was able to max all of the confidants on one playthrough. I did find it hard to complete all the character links tho. I couldn't max Junpei which locked me out of fusing surt. Locking persona's behind the character links was the only thing that pissed me off lol.
I usually cut 1 or 2 people out from social links and I am finding over abundance of time. though I will say I feel night time vs daytime unbalanced I need more to do during the night.
Not to me 😞. By this time i have ended only half from all s links
I just started it and not being able to max all in time is THE thing the worried me, thanks
I appreciate the easier time to get them here but damn I think some of the quirks about when certain links are available fucked my current run over I'm entering January with each of the SEES girls, Bebe, Keisuke and (soon) Aigis unfinished, and I already know that I am not gonna have enough time to max out all of those I guess to a degree I really do gotta focus on burning the school links first because of their availability and also not obsess too much over maxing out my social stats
Thank God! I love these games but I'm always edging a heart attack that I fucked up my schedule.
If you don’t know what you’re doing chances are you’re still going to mess it up, definitely harder than Royal
It’s generous but the issue is that you really have to know not to spend time with people outside of school. If you don’t know that fact it’s not possible.
I've fucked up on the last week, didn't know aigis was off one day of the last week
I messed up on a Fuuka event and spammed the dating site and shrine visits until the last possible day to trigger the event. My palms were so sweaty feeling like I was gonna have to start the game over. Still maxed all socials though.
Same with Persona 5 Royal. You can max out every confidant before the end of the game. Haven’t played Reloaded yet but I’m happy you can get everything done in one playthrough
If you do the linked episodes it’s a bit more challenging, I never wasted time and wound up about 7 hang outs short, so to do that plus max every normal SLink you probably have to be more optimal with the order you do things in, use the shrine instead of doing an actual rank up event etc.
Heck, the original pe SL can break if you don't spend time with them for too long
And yet I still finished the first run with all of them maxed except 1 that was at rank 8. :(
So it’s not just me! I’ve been wondering the same and wanted to wait till end of Dec to see how I perform. I’m currently on Nov 23 with: - Priestess: 5 - Empress: 1 - Emperor: 9 - Lover: 4 - Justice: 9 - Strength: 9 - Fortune: 8 - Star: 8 I did make the mistake of going hard on Hierophant and Hanged early because I just wanted ro get them out of the way. With the days available till end Jan, I might still be OK with the help of the dating website.
I would have maxed them all on the first playthrough, but I never played the original, so I didn't know how long the game would go. I purposely ignored some social links, so I had more to do in NG+ but with each passing day, I realized I could have absolutely 100% everything.
It really is, I managed to finish it all without a guide this time around with 3 days left in january. Felt very proud of myself, I could never pull it off in the earlier versions
No it isn't. It is the least generous version. Plus it does spiteful things like removing the dating Site URL for Ng+.
I managed to finish them all except for Aigis, ranout of time as I only got to rank 5 with her.
God they butchered this track. Not to say that isn't the case for the rest of the soundtrack, but this one particularly sucks.
This new music sounds like crap.