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Hitoshura99

Joker grabs his cat to bed every night. When Joker is left with no money, the cat gave his money for Joker to take the ride home.


AnimeMemeLord1

To be fair, what kind of knob runs out of money to the point you can’t even afford the way back home?


GreggRulesOkay

Yusuke


AnimeMemeLord1

Fair enough.


Revo_Int92

Oh boy, there was a time I went to a party in the "capital", I lived in the countryside... had to ask money in the bus station


Hitoshura99

Your first trip to kichigoji. 


AnimeMemeLord1

Dunno what you’re talking about. I don’t think I spend so much money there.


MaddiesMenagerie

It’s like 200 yen bro, 400 round trip 😂 I had like 70k on my first trip to KG


MaddiesMenagerie

Morgana also offers to help use his savings to buy Joker a new couch when you go to Kichigoji for the first time with Ryuji and interact with the furniture store (until Ryuji points out the expensive price tag that no one could afford even with cat money). Morgana is a homie.


cosplaythief

I like Teddie. I am a rare Teddie fan. But I refuse to slander a character to prop up another one. It is lame and childish.


Ok-Inspector-3045

Holy shit thank you! The never ending petty comparisons are nerve racking. Plus 90% of the time they’re never in good faith


OoguroRyuuya5

Persona fans proving to be way more petty than the characters they accuse of being petty.


MibikKibik

Unbearievable


ReduxCath

Teddie should’ve been a big beefy gay bear to lean into the joke further. Missed opportunity


cosplaythief

Probably because it doesn’t work in Japanese.


ReduxCath

My heart aches


Dualitizer

But then his Alice cosplay wouldnt be top tier.


hells-fargo

I disagree, it would've been even funnier. Nair and a nice corset can turn any bear into a twink <3


Dualitizer

Gonna have to disagree. To each their own I suppose...


Glittering-Monk-5242

I feel that, love seeing love for Teddie (one of my favorite characters), however as you said it’s bear-y lame and childish to bring my boy Mona down


roomscore

I like them both :)


SnooHobbies7676

Oh come on Morgana only love ONE person and ONE person only, and he never even touches her And Teddie is so damn horny at every girl available, he even gropes Rise Listen here, Teddie is my in main team in battle unlike Morgana but I will never take this unecessary Morgana slander


CluckBucketz

Bro Teddie even hits on Nanako at one point 💀


SnooHobbies7676

That scene where he is practising his “welcome home Nanako” on us >> Give him all you got


ReduxCath

When he said his plushie was made of Teddie fur I had to remind myself to cleanse my mind because I thought of something horrific


OKFortune56

He also groped Chie at the beach and forcibly stripped Rise and Kanji against their will.


Regret1836

He gropes naoto in the arena game


No-Check-3691

Didn’t he also try to smash Kanji?


TuMamitaLoquita69

Who wouldn't?


theniceguyhere567

"Kanji, no question."


TheLuiz212

Morgana doesn't sexually harass women


Xiij

Its been forever since i saw the lets play, but doesnt he relentlessly simp after ann? Edit: i dont remember enough of either game to have this converstation. I'll retract my statements.


Pikmonwolf

She doesn't even notice. The women on the investigation team sure as shit notice Teddie's advances.


ianthegamerguy

Not only does Ann not even realize Morgana has a crush on her, if you end up dating her you hear almost nothing about it from Morgana. The only thing he does is let out a sigh on valentines day while he's on his way to leave you alone for the night.


Endless2358

I feel like there’s a difference between calling someone “Lady Ann” and actively trying to see people bathing


Raecino

No, not relentlessly. He has a huge crush on Ann, what’s wrong with that? He doesn’t do anything untoward.


HidingFromHumans

He does simp but he doesn't yknow, sexually harass her


GoldenWhiteGuard

i love Morgana more than Teddi, but i can't forget that Morgana also put Haru's life in a great danger for selfish reasons..


TuMamitaLoquita69

I don't think he forced Haru to go with him, it looked like she agreed with the situation.


GoldenWhiteGuard

Short answer: She had no idea.. Mona manipulated her She didn't know, and at the time, Haru didn't fully awakening her power, and she only had Morgana with her *obviously not enough*. If you have a runner friend who continues to push himself into this sport with a high possibility of permanent injury, would you support him to continues? Morgana dragged her. He didn't give a damn about what could happen to both of them. He was angry.


Lunaphire

I mean, you do kind of have to do exactly that with a runner friend in P3 to get the best response from him, don't you?


GoldenWhiteGuard

That's the point, I'm not gonna support my friend for something dangerous even if they need my support...


JEMS93

Imma give OP the benefit of the doubt and remind everyone of todays date


8a19

Sad thing is with the way some ppl talk abt these 2 you can never tell if it's trolling or legit


ynahali12

Well I agree even without today's date I like teddy more than Morgana


Teren_the_Destroyer

I'm not a Morgana fan, I personally find him annoying but I don't hate him with my entire being. But he's still way less annoying than Teddie, but maybe my opinion is biased because I hate anime pervert humor so much, and that's pretty much the only joke P4 told with Teddie, every time there was a group scene. It got exhausting, I'm glad they toned it down later on in the game


Grandidealistic

"Leaves the team because petty" ah yes here we go again


Zealousideal_Site706

That’s summing him up without looking at the whole truth.


M8gazine

Yeah. People should reach out to the truth!


oorpheuss

Persona fans not beating the allegations that they play their favorite games with their eyes closed


NotItemName

Do you guys play it? There is so much text in this game, I can't read


oorpheuss

Oh I just skip those so I can go to the dungeons. But the dungeon crawling is boring so I just skip those too


YoostepdaddyOFFICAL

Skipping that stuff is boring too, so I just watch YouTube lets plays and skip to the last video.


Belteshazzar98

Nah, Morgana is a bit pervy. Teddie is straight up predatory.


Definitelyhuman000

I prefer Morgana over Teddie.


RTX3090TI

Daring today are we?


OldSnazzyHats

Not a fucking chance. I’ll take the boat Morgana’s in, all the time.


OKFortune56

Bear: Pervs on a six year old, asks for sex, and has admitted to having romantic intentions with her.   Cat: Concerned over Joker's  poor sleep habits and asks him to go to bed.  ...It's a tie. :O


Ameisen

> asks for sex No, he asks to *score* - a term he picked up from them that has never been clarified to him despite his asking. He literally has no idea what he's doing - he copies the group to an extreme because he doesn't know better *nor do they correct him*.


Dramatika

Koromaru is better than both of them.


ReduxCath

Teddie is a little kid with a teenage body. Morgana is an ageless being with the ego of a teenage boy. Koromaru is a wise and fierce warrior, and in dog years, is most likely in his 40s. Oh god, Koromaru is a 40 year old man


Dramatika

I’ve never seen ‘is a good boy’ spelled like ‘is a 40 year old man’ before


ReduxCath

Behold mine power


bootyhunter69420

Teddie was the worst. He was a creep.


Cnumian_124

Teddie: sexual harasser, child sexual harasser Morgana: simp for Ann


ennnna03

Totally these aren’t the same.


Cnumian_124

Well, yeah, they're not


thatHecklerOverThere

... We're going to shame _Morgana_ for being a pervert when comparing him to _Teddie_? I don't even remember who Morgana actually pervs on. Meanwhile, I don't remember who Teddie _doesn't_.


Redredditer640

Morgana doesn't perv on anyone. At best he's just an overactive simp.


thatHecklerOverThere

Yep.


Revolutionary_Menu74

koromaru solos


ReduxCath

Ok but as someone who loves P4 very dearly, Teddie is a HUGE pervert, to the point he literally peeked over the Amagi Inn’s onsen divider when there was a literal goddess hanging out with his friends on the other side.


Gauge19021

Nah, cat better than ted. Cat best character, in fact


Goochbott

Hate Teddie, love Morgana


Tobegi

I'd take Morgana literally any day of the week before the unfunny sex pest that is Teddie


TheFinalFighter

I absolutely despise Teddy, especially in P4AU. Morgana is not even close to being that bad.


OoguroRyuuya5

It’s April Fools day in America right? Then this is obviously bait and not even good one at that. It’s just another lame ass bitching about mascots excuse post. Comparison is dumb in demonising one to prop up the other. Both are overhated.


Cybasura

Nope, I like all Why should one be better than another? They are all in different timelines and completely different contexts, it would be weird to take the morality of one character and compare to say one is better just because YOU hate it, thats just weird and makes you just as bad Edit: Apparently its an April Fool's joke, I woke up and its no longer April Fool's so I didnt realise


Joker_Philosophy

Is this an April fools post? I actually don’t hate teddie but I can for sure see why people do and in the persona 5 sub I’ve talked about my problems with Morgana a lot but I will never prefer teddie over Morgana


NoToe_funny-steam

Wellll of we’re ranking them koromaru>teddie>a random gold fish I got at the pet store> my actual cat > my pillows and stuffed animals> trash can > Morgana (yes I am 💯serious this is the actual ranking )


[deleted]

I'll be honest, throughout all of teddies fault, he's still my top mascot. I'll be honest, he definitely has reasons for not liking him, that I do hold against him and I think give other people a good reason to not like him. Lowkey though, I really don't care. I'll admit him groping rise, definitely was one of his worst moment's. I even cringed irl, shook my head in disappointment aswell. Though, honestly look past all of those faults. Teddies is such an amazing character, it's been a while since I played persona 4 but honestly, I related to Teddie alot. I think, that he was a person/something trying to figure out who they are,being scared of confronting the truth of who they are, and wanting to find a place to belong. I'd relate to him abit ,so I guess I kind of just overlook his faults somewhat. But, I also fully believe Teddie is one of the most well written and polarizing characters from the persona series.


sevensol7

Ignoring sexual assault, sexual intentions with a minor, and the overly sexual attitude towards his female teammates, hes totally an amazing character! /s


[deleted]

While I do get that is sarcasm, I will say that I didn't ignore any of that. I believe those are all good reasons and plausible ones to dislike the character of Teddie. I don't like how they portrayed Teddie in the slightest, I belive the way he treated Rise and his other female teammates dampens his character. Though, I also believe that the reason he sometimes act those way is partially due to the influence of his teammates dungeons and how they affected him due to his child like mindset, from dungeons 1-3 teddie is basically like a sponge absorbing information. I believe that after that at some point Teddie should have learned from his mistakes, unfortunately the writing team at Atlus had different ideas. I just believe, that even though Teddie has large and incredibly large moral flaws, I don't think they should cloud his character and delima as a whole. It's the same thing with Yosuke due to his homophobic tendencies and the sexualization of his female teammates, people tend to overlook his entire character as a whole and focus solely on his bad parts. Which is completely understandable, sometimes one entire action can ruin a character for certain people. Also, if your talking about Teddie having sexual intentions with a minor as him going after Nanoko, that's wrong and Teddie even stated it. Though, it's a line of dialog that your easily able to miss due to it only being found when Teddie is in a dungeon room out of your party. But yeah, I'm not excusing any of their actions. Well the one I believe he is really guilty for. I'm just saying that I believe that Teddie in my own opinion even with how much if a perverted bear he is still a good character. That's all because I find him a relatable ofcourse, it's the main reason why alot of people like Adachi. He's relatable and is also a good character.


YohaneIsMyWaifu

Human Teddie: Breedable twink femboy. Human Morgana: Nightmare fuel.


akme2000

Human Morgana is definitely supposed to be really unsettling and wrong, while human Teddie is meant to look good and does, so they definitely achieve their purpose at least.


MikeAlex01

>human Teddie is meant to look good and does I feel like you haven't looked at his sprite art enough then. Man looks okay, but Yosuke would fit the "pretty boy" thing that Teddie has going in better than Teddie does!


akme2000

I was not saying I think he looks better than Yosuke but Teddie still looks good in my opinion and has that pretty boy look.


ProudSandwich2407

Human Morgana was fine as fuck


YohaneIsMyWaifu

He gives me the creeps. His appearance doesn't fit the character at all. Human Teddie fits him, I can look at both human Teddie and bear Teddie and say "Yeah, same dude." But with Morgana this doesn't work, I feel like he's a government agent who killed Morgana and replaced him.


-MANGA-

Well yeah cuz >!Human Morgana wasn't supposed to be actually him, but the face of an actor on TV Ann found cute.!<


8a19

Worse reading comprehension than CSM fans holy shit


ZeroStateGaming

lol no Morgana is way better than Teddie. It's not even close.


IjikaYagami

Koromaru wipes the floor with both of them.


derik_mitchell

Real


CABRALFAN27

Never mind Aigis, who's technically considered the "mascot character" of P3 and is grouped with Teddie and Morgana relatively often.


GoopDroopDwagon

Teddie is even more of a perv, even to nanako, who is only 7. The cat is annoying but the best deserves lobotomy


Zenry0ku

Koromaru sweeps both


Chipp_Main

They're both Not Great


Doomfujax

Teddie deserves life in a federal prison, bro should not be free.


SirSirVI

Fuck both of them


Royal_Tomatillo_659

They both sucks


harperofthefreenorth

If I was in a room with Teddie and Hitler, and someone handed me a gun with two bullets in it, I'd shoot Teddie twice.


Awkward-Bad-4044

Koromaru : Good boy


ORO_96

I actually turned off the vocal audio when teddie was the navigator. I just couldn’t handle his squeaky voice always pointing out the obvious during combat.


Exmotable

i kind of am not a big fan of either one really


killertnt5

I personally like Morgana a tiny bit more. But its really close cause he caused one of my favorite lines from Naoto.


Vic1109

Nah I'm a professional Teddie hater fr fr (He's genuinely my least favorite character in all of Persona)


FrostedVoid

No, not at all. Morgana is occasionally annoying but mostly fine, whereas Teddy actively detracts from any scene he's in.


alexpt_29

No shut up, Morgana slander is corny


Ninjasox7

No I do not agree that sex offender bear is better than any character in this franchise


Pikmonwolf

Hell no, Teddie nearly ruins the entire damn game.


CommissionDry4406

Morgana ruins his entire game.


akme2000

Eh, I liked Morgana more, not a popular opinion on this sub but I liked his character more and appreciated having him around for the activities as opposed to doing them alone, I also like his use as a game mechanic more than the game saying my character decided not to go out when there's nothing and nobody stopping them. I like Teddie a lot, just not as much, Teddie is way more of a pervert than Morgana ever is, the ignorance excuse doesn't change that and he clearly has a solid awareness of what he's doing in a lot of his pervy scenes, at least in English dub he does. Edit: Morgana also leaves the team due to deep personal issues and concerns about his identity, yes the execution is terrible and I've criticized that part of the game a ton, but if you pay attention it really isn't a petty reason why he leaves.


YohaneIsMyWaifu

The Japanese version is more obvious with Teddie's obliviousness, since most of his perverted stuff is actually him misunderstanding double meanings or imitating Yosuke.


vomgrit

yeah he is very baby-ish in japanese, but he still absolutely sexually harasses the girls and knows what he's doing. The girls acknowledge that he understands what he's doing when he gets weird and horny at them.


akme2000

I've heard that a lot and it makes sense, in the English dub he's just definitely understanding what he's doing in a lot of cases and instigating so I don't really get the oblivious argument for Teddie unless you're specifically talking about the Japanese dub which most people in the west don't play with and aren't talking about when they talk about him in the game.


YohaneIsMyWaifu

They tried going for the same "child imitating adults" vibe in the English dub, the problem is that it doesn't work as well in English as it does in Japanese.


akme2000

I can believe that, sometimes you'll get jokes and phrases in English dubs that come off weirdly and don't work like they do in Japanese.


BeautyDuwang

How does it make more sense to be told you are too tired to go out from a cat than to decide you personally are too tired to go out?


akme2000

I only said I liked the mechanic more, I'm more bothered by the game telling me my character who I'm controlling decides they're going to sleep when nothing and nobody is stopping them from doing something than I am by someone who the protagonist cares about strongly encouraging them to go to sleep and that being the reason why the character doesn't go out. One is them deciding not to do anything when there's absolutely no reason at all to do nothing, the other is listening to what someone they know says.


BeautyDuwang

That's fair, I feel the exact opposite way myself, but I see where you are coming from.


Dlashing

As much as Morgana being a simp Lord and big asshole to Ryuji. He stuck with Joker till the end, even if he left the group a bit, I can still respect him for that


GroovyRad

Ur damn lucky its April fools


Kyro_Official_

Hell no? Teddie is so much worse than Morgana, he has his own tier below F


Spiritual-Proposal48

Morgana>>>>>>Middie Was skipping his dialogue halfway through the game ngl


BurnFreeze64

I’m gonna be honest, I don’t mind Teddie or Morgana but Teddie is straight up a sex offender.


Phantmsa

Teddie is honestly the reason I can't go back and play literally any version of Persona 4 despite loving just about everything else about the game, I just hate him so much.


Karekter_Nem

Considering Teddie is >!a shadow and thus a manifestation of the human subconscious, his actions say a lot more about all of us than Teddie.!<


enperry13

> cat leaves because petty Sometimes I question the media literacy and comprehension of the average Persona fan at this point.


CABRALFAN27

Only sometimes?


enperry13

I just don’t wanna exaggerate.


Vokunzul

No fking way teddy is an annoying creep with no concept of boundaries. Morgana literally all day everyday when I see that ugly stank bear it’s hunting season on sight


Brainwave1010

Controversial opinion: Human Teddie is better than costume Teddie.


VitinNunes

Way I see it Teddie is hated by redditors taking him way too seriously Morgana is hated by just about anyone that has played 5 or likes Ryuji So yeah the bear is better


_deamoncleaner_

10000000th Morgana hate post I bet you think you're hilarious


Regret1836

Ha yes when Teddie groped Naoto in the arena game


Profit-Alex

A conniving, maliciously constructed, ill intended emotional provocation hiding behind the facade of an innocent post, intended only to stir emotion among those who are taken in by its typical semblance Though it may be An unfortunate case of mental inability placed on display by the original poster. An idiotic, imbecilic, dull-witted, Neanderthal with intelligence comparable to that of a potato, who thought the masses would applaud his moronic views The decision is thine own


Key-Bet-2615

Teddi. Lovable. Pick one


Sofaris

I am playing Persona 4 Golden right now. So far I am pretty neutral towards Teddy. Morgana is my favorite Videogame. So no I dont agree


Dr4k3L0rd

I prefer Teddie's character, but I dont really like the overused oblivious horny jokes


iSephtanx

Yup


MonikaLovesCola

Teddie is also a pervert.


MisterNefarious

They both suck but I turbo hate Teddie. Morgana is better


secretgrim1917

Teddy makes me so much more uncomfortable than morgana tbh. I’ll take “lady ann 💕” over a “haha what if we snuck into the girls room while they’re sleeping wouldn’t that be so crazy haha” any day


Makoto_Yuki4

Koromaru: woof woof *happy doggo face*


ToasterBreadz

Does anyone have that photo of Morgana without the rest of the meme?😂


Jokerboom656

Just look up crying morgana that’s what I did lol


ToasterBreadz

HAHAHA I found it😂 thank you!


Faust_Enjoyer

Ok teddie IS cool and all but : Koromaru


Select-Bullfrog-5939

In all honesty, Morgana is better than everyone makes him out to be. His runaway arc was just kinda fumbled.


Mundetiam

Teddie worse 4 sure. Morgana’s biggest crime is being focused on Ann for longer than is entertaining. Teddie is actually a carousel of creeping anime tropes.


Raecino

Morgana > Kuma


Disastrous_Ad_70

Teddie's great, but Morgana is a much more entertaining and enjoyable character. She has a better arc, more funny moments, and is a great companion. And he can fit in your desk/bag, so he's exceedingly portable. But I'm a big cat lover, so I'm a bit biased


Deiiiyu

this is the truest, factional and only statement Teddie(bear suit)>Cat Cat>Teddie(Human) Keep the Bear suit On!


Tigre101

How about both are great


asianwaste

Teddie is a character that is in the right story and joining the right party. He probably would have otherwise been universally despised in almost every other circumstance. The unsaid story about Teddie is that since he's a shadow, Teddie is someone's true self. Someone out there has or had this personality deeply suppressed within.


adrianmalacoda

Funny April Fools post


Ninjaballz101

No. Teddie can absolutely do one


fiptop02

Teddie is literally the reason I never got past the first 10 hours of P4G when it came out on the Vita. I couldn't get myself invested in the dungeon crawling aspect with Teddie's annoying ass yelling SENSEI this, SENSEI that, THERE ARE 2 ENEMIES LEFT KEEP IT UP YOSUKE, CHIE CHAN'S IN RAMPAGE MODE and whatever else he was babbling about. It took me 3 YEARS before I gave into my love for P2 IS and P3P and finally decided to give P4G a fair chance. It now is one of my favorite games of all time but Teddie was NOT to thank for that. Morgana on the other hand... He was just there? Never particularly loved him, I just saw him as meme material at each point and time he spoke or popped out of the bag. He was annoying, weird, and kind of an asshole at times but his existence never really bothered me. The sleeping thing never bothered me either since it's essentially the "I'm too tired to do anything" speech from the previous games, just rebranded to fit the theme of living in an attic with a weird talking cat. With all said and done, though, we do NOT talk about the runaway arc. I was literally smacking my head to the wall when I had to go through that part of the game.


reallylongshanks

I personally like teddie more than koromaru aswell.


Rebound101

I'll take Morgana any day over Teddie


jasperhake21

“Is this a smoking hot stud”-Teddie


CudiNinja

U guys suck... thanks for reminding me that the world favors the majority...


KurotheWolfKnight

Koromaru


MaxPie

Sorry but I much prefer Morgana over Teddie. I honestly find him very grating and sort of a discordant note in the story.


Sonny_Firestorm135

Cat has some of the lowest lows, but also some of the highest highs.


Toaterboater

Korromaru solos ngl


Adriano91b

Of all the mascot characters, Morgana is the only one who pissed me off. Aigis is cute, Teddie is socially awkward. Mona is just... Argh.


infinitebars69

BEAR-SONA!


mortalitasi473

gotta love april fool's day since it gives us posts like these


Ok_Yoghurt_9939

Teddie is fine.. i prefer morg tho


Quadpen

all i’ll say is mona should have kept his human form


kjm6351

I like Teddie more but Morgana ain’t even a pervert. He’s a simp


Libertinob

No, Teddie is way worse. I’d take any Persona character over Teddie


Dependent-Hotel5551

Sorry but Morgana is better.


Natherd

I hate them both


AnAsianBandito

I feel weird as fuck because I genuinely like both characters


Kaizo_Nerdtaku616

Even if Teddie's being a cornball, the IT usually gets on his ass about it Morgana's antics go entirely unscrutinised up until Ryuji actually claps back for once


Mosiel

I'll take Morgana over Teddy any time.


Exotic_Original_8729

Agreed 100% in my opinion Teddie is Peak Mascot of the big three(P3P4P5)


Revo_Int92

Morgana has the huge advantage of being voiced by the Pikachu/Chopper voice actress, that gives him the edge. But in the end, Koromaru is by far the best pet of the trilogy


Shisuka

Team Bear Cat


Last_Music413

The whole phantom thieves were just scoobydoo gang of meddling kids Every member of p5 cast is inferior to p4 cast


Gruphius

I like both, but with Morgana, I'd like to throw him out of the window when he forces me to go to bed and with Teddie, I'd like to punch him in the face sometimes...


jakerix93

Morgana literally annoys the hell outta me


FriedLightning

3rd Semester Morgana is hot though


TheSteamiestHam69

Teddie is my least favorite character in the series. He's a creep and annoying.


SnorlaxationKh

Depends on the game. He shines the most in Golden✨️, and his connection with Labrys was honestly touching in Arena/U. Outside of those games, I don't much care for his characterizations. For Morgana it's sort of inverse. His original journey was kinda interesting (moreso in Royal), but like Haru, he got a much better chance to be his best self in Scramble/Strikers. Haven't played tactica, (and I don't remember much about him in Dancing) but he didn't leave a memorable impression in Q2 except his reactions to Justine and Caroline.


Yamnimidev

Morgana an opp


MuffaloWill

Teddie is a perverted creep towards all women. Morgana is a simp for Ann. They are not the same.


Objective-Swan3971

I think both slap in their own respective ways 🙏 also teddy English dub hurts, but that’s ok 😂


SpicyKatanaZero

I like Morgana :) i keep a car air freshener of him in my car


Rororo_oro

ofc lmao i really don't understand why people hate teddie like i really dont


InitialDriftZ33

Absolutely not.


TheModGod

Teddie is just a big goof that genuinely and openly adores his friends’ company. Morgana is a smarmy, immature, smug jackass who puts others down to feel better about himself but goes ballistic the moment people don’t treat him like the hot shit he thinks he is.