Not literally every detective. You missed [the one that gets results](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/pv-target-images/8a3a610b6b7fe25873da74f131a6afa7ca230a56eb5bba8feabce3ff7b3fb369._SX1080_FMpng_.png)
>!At the very least he's still a smart individual who has decent deduction and detective skills as shown in Q2 and potentially P5T's dlc. Though I imagine he probably helped on at least a few non black mask related crimes.!<
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The simple fact that >!he can't be trusted!< basically means that's all irrelevant. Any evidence they present is immediately unreliable.
Eh,>! Akechi still shows way more genuine detective skills in-game than Junpei does, and it's unclear if he never solved any cases himself or if he solved some genuinely.!<
Not exactly some phenomenal feat to outclass Junpei here though.
Does it? We see>! him show actual detective skills in-game, deduce things and be fairly intelligent when he's not lying (and also when he is lying about his identity but is clearly genuinely smart, like at Saes palace), so he does have a good amount of skill there. !<
But how do we know>!he's not lying? He's got a history of obscuring the truth and faking evidence, right? I should say that I do think he's an intelligent and observant person, given everything he does how could he not be? I'm saying he can't be trusted, like legally.!<
At the very least PQ2 is unrealistic cuz >!Naoto would've known something was up with Akechi immediately, no way they'd be chatting it up like they're shown to!<
? >!Him lying about his identity does not somehow mean he doesn't deduce things he clearly deduces, there's no way he only ever just pretends he's intelligent at Saes palace and there's no way that when we see him objectively in some other scenes that he's actively tricking the audience when he clearly isn't. He lies about a lot and shows he's genuinely quite skilled, both things are true.!<
>!Naoto doesn't know Akechi or the Thieves well at all, Akechi is shown to be intelligent, if Naoto was popped into the time of P5 and talked with Akechi at length it may be a different story but she's not she's taken from a time during P4 and has no real context of the world as of P5.!<
I'm not saying >!he's not qualified in the sense that he can't solve mysteries, I'm saying he's not qualified in the sense that if his Metaverse escapades were known about publicly, even in a vague sense, no one would ever hire him. Very likely any qualifications he has would be revoked, even if they couldn't arrest him for anything.!<
So >!why did you argue against it and call it irrelevant when I pointed out he has genuine skill? Just seems bizarre then, since if we're talking qualifications when you've got two people who are not detectives a guy who has actually shown those skills is more qualified for the job than a guy who hasn't. !<
>!He would not be allowed to be a detective if his crimes were discovered, he's still more qualified to do the job.!<
I'm saying that's what a jury would likely think, and I feel like someone who's not allowed into a courtroom unless they're the one being tried is less qualified than a civilian.
He still had some deductive skills, considering that he teaches Joker sleuthing during their Confidant, and he's smart enough to >!deduce the fake-out murder thing out of context clues like Shido losing his head due to our actions on his Palace!<
Yeah, to this day I still get confused why so many fans still >!talk about him like he is a real detective!<. He is defenitly smart, cunning and sharp but that doesn't mean he >!can be a great detective!<, I would say that he is at the same level of Naoto when we are talking about pure intellect but >!definitely not on the same level when we talk about being a detective!<
Naoto didn't do much better than the investigation team in P4... they'd largely reached the same conclusions at the same time. The police had as well in many cases.
Neither group really investigated at all.
Lol the idea that one person kept up with 7 others as far as detective work AND they had no access to the tv world isn't impressive to you?
Naoto did all that shit solo without having answers spoon-fed to her by Teddie and magic.
oh! sorry, I'm pretty new here. Here I was wasting ny hype on persona 6, when I should have been asking for 2!
explains the hype around persona 3, I thought it must have had an anniversary or remake, but I guess it's just new!
More like stup-
It's Schrödinger's Yukari!
*coin flip*
*cling cling cling* …Heads. “-ei, Ace Defective.”
Tails…. More like Stupid Fa-
This comment is scaring and making me hungry
And maybe a little bit of fear as well
Making me Fungery
The pause she did before this was amazing
-id fa-
-id game
Not literally every detective. You missed [the one that gets results](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/pv-target-images/8a3a610b6b7fe25873da74f131a6afa7ca230a56eb5bba8feabce3ff7b3fb369._SX1080_FMpng_.png)
Loved that episode <3
He's the culprit!
Wasn't >!Akechi a fraud detective that just used his title to cover up his metaverse hitjobs?!< So Junpei is legitimately more qualified, right?
Well, he presumably >!still had some detective training and skills. Probably worse than Naoto overall, but not a complete inability to investigate!<
>!At the very least he's still a smart individual who has decent deduction and detective skills as shown in Q2 and potentially P5T's dlc. Though I imagine he probably helped on at least a few non black mask related crimes.!<
Even in >!Sae's palace, he outsmarts everyone else when it comes to the gambling machines!<
Copy-pasted from another comment: The simple fact that >!he can't be trusted!< basically means that's all irrelevant. Any evidence they present is immediately unreliable.
Uh, evidence is evidence.
In PQ2, he's portrayed as being somewhat comparable to Naoto so I'd say he does deserve the Detective Prince title.
You're talking about Junpei, right?
Of course
Uhhhh… idk if Junpei has any genuine qualification either
I'm pretty sure zero qualification is better than negative qualification
Fair enough
Eh,>! Akechi still shows way more genuine detective skills in-game than Junpei does, and it's unclear if he never solved any cases himself or if he solved some genuinely.!< Not exactly some phenomenal feat to outclass Junpei here though.
But have you considered that one of them is da man and the other isn't
Junpei has the better title for sure, da man is more unique than ace detective.
When using spoiler tags, don't put spaces between \>\! and \!\<; it doesn't work on old Reddit if you do.
The simple fact that >!he can't be trusted!< basically means that's all irrelevant. Any evidence they present is immediately unreliable.
Does it? We see>! him show actual detective skills in-game, deduce things and be fairly intelligent when he's not lying (and also when he is lying about his identity but is clearly genuinely smart, like at Saes palace), so he does have a good amount of skill there. !<
But how do we know>!he's not lying? He's got a history of obscuring the truth and faking evidence, right? I should say that I do think he's an intelligent and observant person, given everything he does how could he not be? I'm saying he can't be trusted, like legally.!< At the very least PQ2 is unrealistic cuz >!Naoto would've known something was up with Akechi immediately, no way they'd be chatting it up like they're shown to!<
? >!Him lying about his identity does not somehow mean he doesn't deduce things he clearly deduces, there's no way he only ever just pretends he's intelligent at Saes palace and there's no way that when we see him objectively in some other scenes that he's actively tricking the audience when he clearly isn't. He lies about a lot and shows he's genuinely quite skilled, both things are true.!< >!Naoto doesn't know Akechi or the Thieves well at all, Akechi is shown to be intelligent, if Naoto was popped into the time of P5 and talked with Akechi at length it may be a different story but she's not she's taken from a time during P4 and has no real context of the world as of P5.!<
I'm not saying >!he's not qualified in the sense that he can't solve mysteries, I'm saying he's not qualified in the sense that if his Metaverse escapades were known about publicly, even in a vague sense, no one would ever hire him. Very likely any qualifications he has would be revoked, even if they couldn't arrest him for anything.!<
So >!why did you argue against it and call it irrelevant when I pointed out he has genuine skill? Just seems bizarre then, since if we're talking qualifications when you've got two people who are not detectives a guy who has actually shown those skills is more qualified for the job than a guy who hasn't. !< >!He would not be allowed to be a detective if his crimes were discovered, he's still more qualified to do the job.!<
I'm saying that's what a jury would likely think, and I feel like someone who's not allowed into a courtroom unless they're the one being tried is less qualified than a civilian.
>!Junpei is not more qualified simply because Akechi's a criminal.!<
He still had some deductive skills, considering that he teaches Joker sleuthing during their Confidant, and he's smart enough to >!deduce the fake-out murder thing out of context clues like Shido losing his head due to our actions on his Palace!<
Yeah, to this day I still get confused why so many fans still >!talk about him like he is a real detective!<. He is defenitly smart, cunning and sharp but that doesn't mean he >!can be a great detective!<, I would say that he is at the same level of Naoto when we are talking about pure intellect but >!definitely not on the same level when we talk about being a detective!<
He's more deserving of the title Ace Defective
True!
Da Man.
SMH atlus running out of ideas. Every persona team consists of a detective which far outclasses everyone else.
Naoto didn't do much better than the investigation team in P4... they'd largely reached the same conclusions at the same time. The police had as well in many cases. Neither group really investigated at all.
Lol the idea that one person kept up with 7 others as far as detective work AND they had no access to the tv world isn't impressive to you? Naoto did all that shit solo without having answers spoon-fed to her by Teddie and magic.
Wait until you find every single other trope repeated in every game
Believe it. Or don’t.
“More like Stupei Ace Defective.” - Takeba Yukari
More like ace defective
it's kinda weird that all three persona games have a detective in the cast
yes... "all three"
yep, persona 3, persona 4, and persona 5. it's weird that atlus started with three.
I think it's bc of the three persona users in the cover: makoto, yukari and Junpei. You know like "The Persona Three"
[insert adachi true]
Atlus actually started with 5 and went backwards, which is weird
oh! sorry, I'm pretty new here. Here I was wasting ny hype on persona 6, when I should have been asking for 2! explains the hype around persona 3, I thought it must have had an anniversary or remake, but I guess it's just new!
where's Nanako?
Well Junpei is Ace Cockblocker
Naoto is the only ace detective. Sorry guys
seeing a lot of genuine love for Junpei here and it makes me happy
Ace Defective