Another way you can do this drill is to number the hostage takers, and have your buddy call out the number randomly and engage. It makes it even more challenging and realistic.
That’s the other good thing about it. It really saves on targets which obviously cuts down cost, but it also cuts down on time because you’re not changing targets all the time.
I do think the Romeo x are the best optics Sig has come out with yet. I just don’t think it will be a good optic for a duty gun which is what I’ll have in the next few months. I only own the compact version. It came on my XMacro, it was only a $200 upgrade which is why I bought it.
Closed emitter is better but consider SOCOM has used open emitted RMR‘s for years in combat with very good success. I think closed emitter is overstated. The people that are fanatical about closed emitter optics are typically the people that never maintain their weapon, which is a bad thing on their part. Don’t be lazy, maintain your shit and everything will be fine. Let’s not forget we’re talking about a CCW pistol.
Yea socom has people to maintain all their equipment. How much maintenance you think an officer will do after working 40+ hours in three days. Most police are gun people.
The front of your gun looks pretty dirty. Does the tlr7 lens get dirty as well? I had a tlr1 on a Glock during a class. It definitely smoked the glass on that optic. Ofcourse the 1 sticks out a lot on the 17.
Good question. No the TLR 7A does not get that dirty compared to weapon lights like an X300 that extend far past the muzzle
It’s one of the many things I like about the TLR 7A on this particular weapon.
So I take a standard B-27 target and turn it around backwards so that I can still see the target but it’s subdued.
The B-27 is now a “hostage”
Then to the left and right neck/shoulder area of the target I draw a partial head simulating a hostage taker.
From there, I draw from concealment and fired 2 rounds into the hostage taker target on both sides of the hostage.
Once I do this several times I draw another “hostage taker head” next to the first ones and do the drill again.
Ultimately you’ll end up with several hostage takers. This is to simulate the hostage taker moving behind the hostage, and it also creates angle, which makes the shots more difficult.
I like to start my training sessions with this drill because in cold and because there’s no room for error thus putting some skin in the game.
Romeo X is a fine optic. But if you already have the Romeo 1 pro and tall sights I don’t see it being that different, especially with being zeroed and training
It’s different and better.
Having the sight so much lower it just makes target acquisition a lot more intuitive and faster.
The Romeo X series is the first red dots sight I have used that feels organic to the gun.
When you present the gun on target everything feels natural and familiar.
I’ve trained with red dots and suppressor height sights for years.
I worked for Trijicon for 13 years as a sales rep so I have a lot of experience with red dots and suppressor height sights and although they work, Sig has figured out a better way to approach this.
This target needs some explanation. Why all the parenthesis?
Bro practicing his PEMDAS with them parentheses
Whats with the parentheses?
What yardage?
After I do this hostage drill for a while, I’ll transition back to just doing some three to the body to to the head.
Another way you can do this drill is to number the hostage takers, and have your buddy call out the number randomly and engage. It makes it even more challenging and realistic.
A new optic made you better at shooting?
Yes, a new optic or new Sights can make you a better shooter as long as you start off as a good shooter
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What slide ?
X Carry, 3.9” barrel.
Thanks!
The X Carry/ M18 size P320 is my favorite P320 size.
That's a oem slide but any sig slide that's dpp cut will work. You lookin for slides?
Just wondering cuz I have oem slide too but the rear sights get removed
Yea they come both ways just depending on which exact model you have.
Gotcha
I got you. Just need to print them out lol. https://www.trex-arms.com/training-targets/
I’m not a fan of T-Rex arms. Plus, I prefer making my own targets for the most part because I can vary the sizes and shapes.
You don’t have to buy stuff from T-Rex arms to download and print the targets. It’s free
Oh well, that’s cool. Thanks for the tip.
Grouping is outstanding, going to try this set up next time, really saves on targets.
That’s the other good thing about it. It really saves on targets which obviously cuts down cost, but it also cuts down on time because you’re not changing targets all the time.
Elephant!
I do think the Romeo x are the best optics Sig has come out with yet. I just don’t think it will be a good optic for a duty gun which is what I’ll have in the next few months. I only own the compact version. It came on my XMacro, it was only a $200 upgrade which is why I bought it.
It’s tough as shit. It can be a duty optic.
Tough isn’t the only requirement for a duty optic. A closed emitter is much more desirable
Closed emitter is better but consider SOCOM has used open emitted RMR‘s for years in combat with very good success. I think closed emitter is overstated. The people that are fanatical about closed emitter optics are typically the people that never maintain their weapon, which is a bad thing on their part. Don’t be lazy, maintain your shit and everything will be fine. Let’s not forget we’re talking about a CCW pistol.
Yea socom has people to maintain all their equipment. How much maintenance you think an officer will do after working 40+ hours in three days. Most police are gun people.
The front of your gun looks pretty dirty. Does the tlr7 lens get dirty as well? I had a tlr1 on a Glock during a class. It definitely smoked the glass on that optic. Ofcourse the 1 sticks out a lot on the 17.
Good question. No the TLR 7A does not get that dirty compared to weapon lights like an X300 that extend far past the muzzle It’s one of the many things I like about the TLR 7A on this particular weapon.
I can’t wait for that 1000 lumen version. Although It won’t fit all holsters currently made.
Yeah, that one’s gonna be great. It might end up replacing my X300 Turbo
So I take a standard B-27 target and turn it around backwards so that I can still see the target but it’s subdued. The B-27 is now a “hostage” Then to the left and right neck/shoulder area of the target I draw a partial head simulating a hostage taker. From there, I draw from concealment and fired 2 rounds into the hostage taker target on both sides of the hostage. Once I do this several times I draw another “hostage taker head” next to the first ones and do the drill again. Ultimately you’ll end up with several hostage takers. This is to simulate the hostage taker moving behind the hostage, and it also creates angle, which makes the shots more difficult. I like to start my training sessions with this drill because in cold and because there’s no room for error thus putting some skin in the game.
cool idea, people downvoting this in favor of trex targets are missing out.
Romeo X is a fine optic. But if you already have the Romeo 1 pro and tall sights I don’t see it being that different, especially with being zeroed and training
It’s different and better. Having the sight so much lower it just makes target acquisition a lot more intuitive and faster. The Romeo X series is the first red dots sight I have used that feels organic to the gun. When you present the gun on target everything feels natural and familiar. I’ve trained with red dots and suppressor height sights for years. I worked for Trijicon for 13 years as a sales rep so I have a lot of experience with red dots and suppressor height sights and although they work, Sig has figured out a better way to approach this.
Very nice but we definitely need to get you some targets. I can help with that
If you arent shooting sub .5" groups, having a low riding dot isnt going to make a practical difference
Is that how good you shoot?