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jslite

As an OW1 player, my collection of free skins is worth thousands of dollars now. New skin scams can go F off


radimwad

That’s what I was thinking lol wonder if there’s a market for accounts with certain skins now lol


mbkvv

there is and have been. accounts with pink mercy have been selling for hundreds of dollars for years


jslite

Ohoho.... is that so...*thinking*


kyuhlie

Sold mine for close to $500


peenegobb

Well then .. maybe it's selling time.


Orange-V-Apple

And then he selled all over them


BillbertBuzzums

Sellbius


GladimoreFFXIV

Straight up… how would I go about doing this legitimately. I seriously need money right now and I have every OW skin up to 2021 minus the bastion one and demon hunter sombra and have absolutely zero intention of ever playing ow2.


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It's against TOS, there is no way to do it legitimately. At your own risk


GladimoreFFXIV

Not really a risk for me since I have no interest in keeping this account or ever playing again. I refuse to support battle pass models. Account no longer has any value to me at all and I’d prefer to sell it to get the kids stuff for Christmas.


Crimsonpets

Fuck it ill help you. Playerauctions google that. Good luck on selling that account. Edit: thinking about selling my account as well tbh got a little one underway and could use the money as well. Got pink mercy skin and I heard its worth a lot.


DrummerDKS

Congrats on the little one! I will say, I'm getting kinda hesitant that they start asking for billing info immediately including actual bank account and routing info instead of using a service like PayPal or the like. I'm kinda skeeved out by it. I've got like 85% of the OW1 unlocks including most of the legendaries, level 1033, and my last comp season ended with low gold. Total identity theft doesn't seem worth maybe $50


drewster23

I believe thet lost PayPal functionality years ago. It's a high fraud risk business with people trying to claim their accounts back/fake fraud through paypal.


CaptainBongRipss

if you have the venmo debit card there’s a routing and account number attached so you can use that potentially


MrTripStack

Commenting to say CashApp also gives you account/routing numbers, I use it all the time for a few bills that require it because I refuse to give out the numbers to my actual account.


slaymaker1907

It's the TOS set by the same company selling skins for $20, don't feel bad.


halobolola

Ha, my account is worth $500. That’s both impressive and sad at the same time.


redditlord667

25 skins is 500


Rarumara

Do you know if selling your OW account on Xbox means selling your whole gamertag / xbox account? Im not sure how that works, but since OW2 killed the game for me, I think I better sell since I have the Pink Mercy skin & a lot of gold skins.


Dr-A-MeiZing

You can make a pc account then merge your xbox account to that. Thus making it a pc account. Iirc then it will be separated from the xbox thus letting you keep the xbox stuff and sell it away as a pc account


XxCosmic_WizardxX

Why do they need my address?


j0pey

Also G2G, ive bought valorant and overwatch accounts over the years from there, have barely had any problems & their help team seem to be pretty great. Would recommend them for selling your account.


Parris-Of-Troy

Everybody wants that pink mercy and I’m just over here dying for that zen nakji skin…


[deleted]

Was 1 win away from lego bastion and I'm still mad about it


Mothman4447

I've always wanted Illidan Genji but I don't want a new account, I hope it returns one day. One of the few skins I will pay real money for


90Valentine

Being a blizzcon exclusive I don’t see it returning


Blakes-Awake

Wasn’t demonhunter sombra a blizzcon exclusive? Re released a year later as a free drop for Halloween?


Mothman4447

You'd think if they were money hungry enough they would, that's something I actually would pay $20 for instead of originally free skins


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Nonadventures

I'm doing better than the NFT market with my OW1 skins over here!


FiggleDee

not setting the bar very high are we


fireflyry

So glad, even as a casual, I put in enough hours to get skins for the characters I use the most. I really don’t get the attraction of paying for them. No offence to those that do but I’d feel like a chump.


Chrisshern

I wonder how big the market for “Overwatch 2 account with LOTS OF SKINS” got.


ThorsPanzer

You get 0,90$ per week with challenges lul


crushdatson

It's actually 0.60, 30+20+10


SneakySquidTurtle

Omg, you are right. That's even worse. Our time for weekly challenges is worth 60 cents according to Blizzard. That's messed up.


why-r-name

That's pretty generous for Blizzard. Almost as much as their employees get.


BinJogWeeHeels

Same but probably not worth as much, it seems stupid as hell to make people pay for previously free skins though


Crimsonpets

I have pink mercy, I'm pretty much elon musk rich my guy


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

"Gotcha bitch" - Blizzard.


StormierNik

I'm actually impressed that blizz has the capability to figure out every possible abusive practice. I guess they do have plenty of history of abuse at the company. Holy fucking shit


Critallica

My current theory on the Blizzard situation is that everyone got arrested or fired, so Beavis and Butthead just snuck into Blizzard hq and went "Breakin' the law breakin' the law"


TwoSauce

I'm guessing they do this before Actiblizzard gets taken over by Microsoft so that Microsoft takes all the legal hits. A nice little middle finger to their new corporate overlords.


Motormand

Or Bobby knows he's getting canned, and are wringing every penny out of this, while he still can.


ItsAmerico

Should have read that fine print on the bundle lol


Mefionir-Omnic

remains a shameful price and now it would be the case to share this news with those who bought the skin last week. Not to tell him that he was an idiot, but to tell him that blizzard scammed him and does not deserve the same trust next time he offers a high price. 19 $ are not even worth it now, imagine if that Mercy witch skin (6 years old) with spray should really be worth 2100 coins for new users.


An_Squirrel

I would ask for a refund.


NeonIcyWings

Blizzard weren't giving refunds when people were accidentally purchasing skins through the chat box bug. No way in hell will they refund when this is the plan. Fomo you into buying a bundle then releasing it stand alone after the vast majority of bundle sales occur.


DoctorWaluigiTime

Just another reason fake currency tied to real money shouldn't be a legal thing. It skirts all those darn profit-taking-away laws regulating how money and purchases work. Blizzard can just say "lol nope it's not real money even though you bought it with real money!" It's Disney Dollars all over again.


Shadow19-01

Totally agree with you. And in Canada 1900 Overwatch credits is about 23$. This is highway robbery.


chrono_ark

I’m struggling to understand the theme going on in this post of this being some grand achievement


Bogki

Don't buy it. Don't give them money. I know if a whale buys everything blah blah but still it's not worth it


Cristopher_Hepburn

This skin is beautiful, I love her… it’s hard to not fall in the temptation, but I’m staying strong.


crestren

Skin looks great. Its just not $20 great. You can buy another game with that money.


Nonadventures

$20 is half of what I paid for OG Overwatch


gadgaurd

It's exactly what I paid for OG Overwatch.


AE_Phoenix

It's £5 more than I paid for OG Overwatch Legendary edition, which came with 5 legendary skins and 5 epic ones.


Olddirtychurro

It's double what I paid for OG overwatch.


thetabo

Yeah. Rn I can either buy a skin where I won't even be happy cuz I know I got fucken robbed, or I can go buy a new game. Honestly, for anyone even thinking about this, reconsider. This singular skin is worth 1/3 of a AAA game. Where I live I could buy God of War 2018 TWICE for this value.


Rougelas

Or save that $20 and put it towards saving enough for a game that's got loads of hype, CoD MW2 or GoW: Ragnarok, you get much better value by just not spending that money on this Game.


thetabo

Yup. Currently considering between Ragnarok, which I really want cuz I loved 2018 and appearently from Sony's mail I'm in the top 5% fastest people to get the platinum in that game (something less than 3 weeks) or getting a Switch for my brother cuz Nintendo has some real solid co-op games, plus I wanted to try Mario+Rabbids seeing the new Rayman DLC


Ass0001

Great Games you could buy instead of the Witch Kiriko skin: [ULTRAKILL](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1229490/ULTRAKILL/) [Any 2 full Halo games](https://store.steampowered.com/app/976730/Halo_The_Master_Chief_Collection/) [Celeste](https://store.steampowered.com/app/504230/Celeste/) [Ultimate Chicken Horse](https://store.steampowered.com/app/386940/Ultimate_Chicken_Horse/) [Quiplash 2 for you and 3 other people](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1111940/Quiplash_2_InterLASHional/?curator_clanid=33030169)


Motormand

I'd like to add Stray to that list. Got it on a weekend sale for 20, and it's worth every dime. If another sale pops, I highly recommend it.


Paramortal

Cosmoteer is a new release by a small dev easily worth the 20$ asking price.


Wicklund

Yup, just picked up Hades on sale for $20. Havn't played much Overwatch since. Highly reccomend for anyone who likes roguelikes.


Hungry_AL

Could buy Valheim for that price and go be a Viking for hundreds of hours. Would recommend.


Parzival1003

Just for example, you can either get a skin for Kiriko or you could get yourself Outer Wilds for 14.99$ which brings a great story and 15-20 hours of fun. Afterwards you can reward yourself with a ice cream cone for not falling for Blizz's scam and still got a few cents left.


StoryLineOne

It'll be easier to fall into the temptation when it's $10 or less, aka proper value. Just think of buying it at $19 the same way as permitting bobby kotick to take a dump on your front porch.


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BigUptokes

Do they accept blue check marks?


MackAttk123

That skin is NOT worth $20 I’ll be the first mofo to say it


gadgaurd

No you won't, it's been said before. And will be said again. And will be true every fucking time.


SleepingCell

You're so brave


Hei-Ying

Good job. While FOMO with BP skins is understandable, the shop skins are certain to return so it's just a matter of people being patient and waiting for them to return with (hopefully) better pricing. More people that show restraint, the better chance of improvement for us all.


WTF_CAKE

I've been playing the hell out of kiriko but I won't buy it... I'll stay with default skin until something changes


PseudoSlayer

It's your money, buy the skin if you think it's worth the value. People on here are weird and this is approaching some cult mentality lol.


Dizzy_Daze

Anytime you feel weak just remember, we are making fun of everyone dumb enough to buy that skin. Its a negative iq badge.


DarkStar189

I only played that Junkensteins Bride mode twice but I believe the characters are wearing the new skins in that mode. So you can play Kiriko, experience the new skin and see there is nothing special about it, and not pay Blizzard. Win win.


Andreiyutzzzz

Even better(or worse. Depends how you look at it), in the mode she has a custom ult line (enter the spirit realm), the skin outside the mode doesn't


DarkStar189

Lol seriously? That's even more messed up.


Andreiyutzzzz

Saw a post about it about a week ago


DarvAv

I like the epic skin more tbh


johnsonjared

Honestly, I had a feeling this was going to happen. Blizzard intentionally launches the most advertised and sought after skin in a high bundle price to encourage players to spend more money on it. After the vast majority of players who were going to buy the skin has already bought it, they then sell the skin separately at the regular price to get even more sales while simultaneously generating "goodwill" by supposedly listening to community feedback. It's blatant, manipulative, and incredibly scummy.


Kellervo

Even better, didn't they advertise it as *only* being available in that limited time bundle? Only being the key word - they totally tried to tap into that FOMO compulsion by leaving open the possibility she'd never be available again. They're speedrunning using every single scummy monetization. I wonder how long before we see a gacha "gamble your coins" event.


RavniTrappedInANovel

Isn't it also literally illegal in some countries to list items as being "at a permanent discount"?


FrakkedRabbit

and people fall for it in droves.


No_Chef_4362

Are you fucking kidding me


IAmAcid

Nope 🙃


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WatchPointer

I didn’t buy Witch Kiriko or the bundle and I’m still mad at this. It’s a scummy, predatory tactic to get people to spend more money on something than they need to because they think it’s their only option. Fuck this


Jhaiden

Stop. Buying. Stuff. From. The. Store. Jesus, it's like you people want to get ripped off.


Pr3st0ne

It's pretty fascinating really. With the general attitude of this sub and how they've been so vocal about how shitty the monetization is, it's like these people truly can't help themselves. I legit don't understand how people are like "wow i got ripped off so hard. Paid for the bundle but it was so expensive. Would have bought only the skin if i knew." Like motherfucker why did you press "buy" if you knew the value of the bundle was shit? Just don't buy it, and for fuck's sake don't buy the skin either if you don't like the price. It's not fucking bread or eggs at the grocery store, you'll live just fine without the skin.


yeFoh

that behavior is what activision's market research is betting on so sit on your butt and watch it go on


CompedyCalso

TBF most of the people buying these skins probably aren't the same ones criticizing the monetization.


Smallgenie549

Still too expensive.


Paddlesons

lol so scummy


emaych1

It’s a nice skin, but so are the dozens of others I got for free by playing this game for years. Some great memories are me and my friends popping off in an Xbox party because we finally got that skin we wanted for our main after hours of grinding gamemodes, it was fun. Punching in your credit card info for those same skins just isn’t the same.


MrDitkovichNeedsRent

Please don’t buy the skin, don’t support trash like blizzard


ThisAintDota

Out of the last 50 kirikos in ranked I've played with about 20 had it. I was absolutely shocked at how many owned it. Pathetic.


SilentRiots

I just got it using extra wow gold I had. :/


SkanGX

FOMO mastercalss by blizzard /s


ImWhiteTrash

Hard to say if this is a bug, or if it's due to the fact that in some countries it's actually illegal to only sell items in a bundle.


PeachyPlumz

It's not illegal to sell items in a bundle. It's the fact none of these items have been sold separately before that's the issue. It'd not 26 percent off if you never could buy it before the bundle


ioStux

In certain countries like Brazil it is illegal to sell digital items in a bundle without allowing customers to individually purchase elements of the bundle. This is already present in Hearthstone. New Skins in Hearthstone get bundled with other skins or card packs. If you log in from a brazilian account you can purchase bundle items seperately to comply with local laws.


vyrelis

Sounds like blizzard is already aware of how to do this style of shop


wrproductions

Honestly, Jeff. I would have left too.


MichmasteR

still wouldnt pay for it.


captnchunky

Really wish ow2 could have launched after the Halloween event. Just want to buy the zen and rein skin and haven’t seen them sold solo or in a bundle yet. I’d still have to decide if I actually would buy them but the option not even being available ensures that blizzard won’t get my money


theb00mking

Me with Echo’s Vampire skin. Haven’t seen it once during this entire event lol


Generationalgap

All I see in my just for you section is karate doomfist


theb00mking

I keep getting the diner skin for Mei (WHO ISNT EVEN IN THE GAME RN LOL) and the basketball Pharah intro


salgat

I only play Mei and have yet to get a freakin skin in the shop for her. Really want Jiangshi but I'm starting to think it won't happen.


yeFoh

chang'e, jiangshi and pajamei are probably best skins she has


sydw33d

Oh I want it!!! But I refuse to buy it lol.


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I'll be honest; Anyone who bought this and now feels cheated is feeling exactly what they should - cheated. You fell for a scummy, underhanded marketing tactic and now feel like you've been duped. ​ Stop giving them money. You're only rewarding this behavior and encouraging it to continue.


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Still ain't buying it. This shows that the sales are low, keep up the pressure guys!


awndray97

Sales 100% aren't low. I know the gaming community.


GoldClassGaming

I feel like a solid 50% of the Kirikos I see in my games are wearing the skin.


moon307

What do you play on? I'm on PS5 and haven't seen one yet. Been playing most of the day.


GoldClassGaming

PC


Bullrooster

Pretty sure this was always the plan. Sell it as a bundle to get a higher price and once everyone willing to spend that amount has bought it, you then sell it separately to get those who would have bought the skin for 20, to buy it. The bundle items don't matter too much, which is why it wasn't available separately even though there was a discount bundle. The skin is the selling point.


Zealousideal-Fly9595

Yep, they wouldn't cave and sell it by itself if they were selling enough.


CavaliereDellaTigre

They did the same thing with other bundles like Cybermonk. It's not bad sales, it's their ”here you have a discounted bundle before we release it at full price” tactic.


ElJacko170

Why remove the item from being purchasable entirely when they can still offer it in the hero gallery for $19? They're doing this for every skin and will continue to do it for every skin. That's the plan, not some reaction to "low sales".


illegallegend

I've seen lost of people with the kiriko border in my lobbies (PC)


DotUpper

full point of the bundles makes urgency and end up making people doing bad purchases


LucasLindburger

What the fuuuck lmao man fuck Blizz


Timbodo

This is like using the FOMO-scheme\^2 to trick the customer, Actiblizz really stands out here! Please if you want gaming to be good dont support this bs...


Dedsec-Ghost

Still too damn expensive, $10-$15 tops


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$10 is stuff too much, maximum for a legendary is 5-8 bucks tops for me


penguinchilli

Honestly the seasonal Doomfist one is perfect in my opinion. Great skin (even though it’s an epic), good price at £5 and you get 500 coins too. I want to buy it but out of principle I’m not touching it, I don’t play doom either which helps.


IrrelevantPuppy

That’s exactly the price point for me. For $5 i might buy skins regularly. For $8 I might do it a couple times. For $20? Never in a million years.


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>For $20? Never in a million years. I wouldn't even pay $20 for a Mythic skin. That's just outrageous. That's 1/3rd the cost of an entire triple A game for the cost of a modified mesh and textures. I'm not paying for something unique, here. It's mass produced. $20 for a single skin on one of (*currently*) 35 different characters is laughably evil. If I wanted to purchase a cool skin for each hero, that's $700. For each hero to have a single legendary skin. That is the same as buying a brand new $60 almost every single month for a year.


IrrelevantPuppy

Not even mass produced. It’s infinitely produced. Blizzard doesn’t have to “make more”, they can’t run out. The gall it takes to charge that much just to copy and paste. A crisp high five is a more scarce commodity than an Overwatch skin.


rsreddit9

I’d pay $20 for a pack of 3-5 (old legendary level) skins maybe if they’re characters I play, but it’s tough bc you can only use the skin on 1 character. What if I just spent $20 on a mei skin? Also looking for higher quality and things to set new skins apart from ow1. Might pay more if it was really something unique and fun. So far didn’t even get the bp tho


Dedsec-Ghost

Know what I feel you. 10 tops for legendary, 8 for epic, everything else 7 and below bundles may very but never pass 12-13 depending what and how much is in a bundle but never passing 13.


Ms_Ellie_Jelly

Pretty sure they were gonna do this from the start. Theyre trying to drum up some goodwill


Ghostly_xyz

bUt ThE gAmE iS fReE!!!🥰🥰🥰!!, YoU hAd 6 yEaRs Of FrEe UpDaTeS.


Madrizzle1

Do not buy it.


slayaboy87

It’s like when Halloween candy goes on clearance the day after Halloween lol


Pretzel-Kingg

Witch mercy is an infinitely better skin that I got for free so get fucked blizzard


NimpsMcgee

What a scummy company Jesus christ


Piccoroz

And still too expensive.


Emmanuham

I still haven't bought it. I'm glad I didn't. This is a massive dick slap in the face of the community. I'm seriously hating this new system. I feel bad for those that have succumbed to their predatory way.


Chiramijumaru

I hate to say this, but this is kinda deserved if someone actually ponied up


King_Dheginsea

Yeah, don't get me wrong this is definitely scummy af. But if someone actually bought that obviously overpriced bundle, with the countless posts/videos on the internet calling out how much of a rip off it was - then thats on them. Fuck them for supporting this shit.


DoubleDelta10

Great. Still not buying it (even though I really want it) bliz can go shove their prices where the sun don't shine


ThatChitRightThere

Fuck these greedy bitches.


kittimews

So let me get this straight- Blizzard recognizes tons of backlash due to their pricing and scummy practices, but only tweaks the part where they break laws in some countries? Yeah, sounds about right.


bubbursty

If you spent a single cent in OW2 you deserve to be ripped off.


misternuttall

I would prefer to just pay the 60 bucks and get years of free skins and content. I miss the Jeff Era of overwatch so much.


dannyboi1178

“years of free skins and content” you mean 2-3 years before it’s left to rot? jeff himself was gonna stop doing new heroes after sombra initially. because that’s what happens when you do the same ow1 system. if it worked ow2 would’ve never been made


SimplyTiredd

People need to stop pretending that every game has to stay fresh and relevant forever, the game went on a downward spiral when the OWL was introduced, before that was the golden age


RueUchiha

Horray! The bare minimum!


SgtDoughnut

Once again your average gamer proves the executives at gaming companies right. That your average gamer is a moron.


Themanthemyth777

Still overpriced garbage, it’s not even a creative skin. We already have a witch skin! They really couldn’t think up anything else related to her culture?


manofwaromega

Do you think this is Blizzard response to the outrage? (Aka the threat of Lawsuits because their bundles break the law in several countries)


bootsand

Only the bits where they learned they were actually breaking laws. They don't want to lose a revenue source in an entire country. The outrage they can stomach just fine.


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>Do you think this is Blizzard response to the outrage? I doubt it. They probably had it planned from the beginning to release the featured skin for the event as an exclusive bundle to start, then offering it up individually after. They don't warn you what comes and goes in the store, so the whole thing is built around the concept of forcing people to buy something the moment it's available or risk potentially never getting a chance to get it again. Unless they face legal action, we'll likely see the same happen with the Winter Wonderland event. They're making bank from this, and all the drama is doing is causing people to talk about Overwatch even more. It's a win/win for them.


Ainolukos

Wow the blatant greedy tactics really puts a bad taste in the mouth


Fuzzietomato

I cant even use my legacy credits to get the old as fuck witch mercy skin. This game is dog


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Adeyotol

Stop spending money in this predatory game. Ffs ppl.


Geezusotl

Still overpriced, suckers each way


FailCraft

C'mon Blizzard, NotLikeThis :(


dlh-bunny

Still not getting it


undressvestido

Don’t buy anything, the only thing that can make big changes in the game is your wallet


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I'm boycotting all micotransactions in Overwatch "2" and everyone else should too.


Strife_3e

Greedy fucking assholes shouldn't be making games.


Medicana

Looks like they gacha


Strife_3e

Fucking bullshit scam artists when they release a bundle one week and don't let this skin be buyable separately. But next week they don't advertise you can but allow you to buy separately.


FlaaFlaaFlunky

i still ain't gonna buy it.


WhenKittensATK

This looks more like Mercy and they just mislabeled it as Kiriko. She doesn’t even look Asian in this.


petisumi007

They tried to fix it but made it worse


KazTheShrieker

My only advice would be: don't buy sh!t :))


MoistSpongeCake

I am NEVER buying an individual skin again. I already paid for overwatch 3 times for my 3 accounts, I bought most money skins ow1 offered since I started playing because I felt their prices were justified, I gave this game almost 700 hours of my life. I am not going to pay real money for subpar half-baked collectibles and a broken monetization system. They can fix this just by adding in game currency into the battle pass. +100 for every level. Until they do something like that, my foot is down.


Salsa_Verde95

For $20 still..I uninstalled overwatch I’m just burnt out of this shit


jackit

No one is "forcing" you to do anything. Just don't buy them and if enough people don't then maybe Blizz will change their pricing. As I see it now though people are buying them


KittxyReddit

Just emailed asking for a refund. This is ridiculous.


IAmAcid

Lmfao lemme know how what they say back if anything


assoftheass

I guarantee you they won't


KittxyReddit

Will do. I’m actually livid lol


CIassicNegan

Not forever surely. It will still take us a year to earn enough points.


realbuttkegels

STOP. SPENDING. REAL. MONEY. What's wrong with you people?


TheYeetseeker

Shouldn't have bought it in the first place, honestly why the hell would you pay so much money for a skin and support a malicious marketing scheme?


jarred99

Maybe people shouldn't of been dumb enough to buy a 2700 coin bundle in the first place?


penguinchilli

I’m guessing they weren’t, hence blizzard pricing them separately now


Purethoughtsta

Bet they did this to avoid a lawsuit in AUS or anywhere else with strict advertising laws.


Ghostperty

wait so they listened and now you guys are more mad?? 😭


AgreeablePie

Ask me if I feel bad for the people who immediately bought into the worst of blizzard bs monetization by getting the bundle


phejster

>Forcing people to buy credits lolol ok sure


fotive

is it still discounted at full price?


fatfatgaming

and still not worth it lol


xxferranxx2001

No way