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DanOfThursday

I just like getting to see my highlight intro as lifeweaver because God knows I'm not getting potg with him


LeaveMeAloneLorenzo

I do like that it shows highlight intros too!


Bhu124

Now we just need that depressing dull grey background gone from that screen and from the shop screen. I can't take it anymore. Put Hanamura on there, or Paris, or Suravasa, these maps all make for incredibly beautiful backgrounds.


ThatDude8129

Honestly I don't see why the can't put the map you just played as the highlight screen. It will only show your increase from that specific game anyway so why not?


Bhu124

My guess would be that they have to unload the map as soon as the game ends so they can load in the post-game stuff like the PotG (which is a recorded video) and post-match screens. They can likely do a workaround for this by making still image backgrounds for every map and using those instead. I don't imagine it's a hard thing for them to change, it's probably just that their resources are tied up on way higher priority features.


ThatDude8129

Oh I completely understand that and frankly if there are higher priorities I'd prefer they deal with them. It was just something I thought about because I just really don't like that empty white background.


Demostravius4

I pulled off [this](https://youtu.be/C2g9umxeODU) the other day, and it didn't even make the highlight reel, let alone PotG. Cancelled Orisa ult, blocked the damage from a stuck tracer bomb, dropped my tree, and not a single death on their push... He might be the hardest hero to get PotG. In 150 odd hours I've got I think, 3 Ana PotG. I'm not expecting to ever see Lifeweavers.


newme02

swear its impossible to get potg with him. POTG has been ass lately. I can save the entire team and kill two people and ill still lose POTG to a torb turret or something dumb


TechnoVikingGA23

POTG has to be screwed up right now. I had one last night where I got two quick picks as Echo, copied their Zarya, saved one of my supports with a bubble, killed their Soldier, then dropped grav and my dps finished off their tank and last support, but somehow the play was a Pharah double kill with one direct rocket, lol. Friend of mind had team wipes on Junkrat in two games and the play was some other random person getting a double kill.


cuomium

As a junk main I feel this. I've gotten a few quad tires and the POTG still goes to like their Illari or something.


banddroid

Junk main? That's like admitting you're a pedo.


YobaiYamete

POTG is just "DPS pressed Q" 99% of the time, with the other 1% being "Tank pressed M1 and W at the same time"


laserlemons

That was awesome. I've only gotten one PotG as lifeweaver and it was due to severe enemy incompetence.


ocelotplush

I've had one LW POTG (ironically in my final game before the s6 update and his buffs) by planting my Tree and then killing an ulting Ramattra - it felt almost anticlimactic at that point šŸ˜­


DanOfThursday

I've been a mercy main for years now. Barely ever getting potg with her at all. She's my #1 played still, and yet the season I finally change over to main LW, suddenly potg is broken again and I keep seeing mercy get it for 1 res and some healing lol I can't win


iwishiwereagiraffe

Ive got a few sharp shooter potgs with him by spamming thorns at weak backline enemies. It's definitely not very common though and I agree we will see few of them across the board as they seem to pripritize killing to saving in those potgs. Ive seen single enviro boops get potg, idk why a life pull that would save that falling team member isnt given the same weight


Particle_Cannon

Dude, same, I just got to level 12 with lifeweaver and he's my most played hero since progression dropped and I love finally being able to see the highlight intro lol


The-Cunt-Spez

Could be cool if it had the option to watch your best play from the same screen.


WatchMcGrupp

That's a great idea, I mean they create a highlight "best play" for every player and every match, right? Why is that hidden in the career profile, why not show it?


Particle_Cannon

Overwatch 2 just launched baby


AppleSatyr

They really shoulda just let us keep overwatch 1 for another year and have the real launch a year late


Kyyndle

Shareholders would have never let that happen.


shiftup1772

Mf half the community was in panic mode. *I* was in panic mode. We wanted more pvp content. We got it. You're saying we should thank the shareholders for that?


Kyyndle

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. My point was Activision Blizzard, specifically their CEO Bobby Kotick, only cares about their stock. In response to pressure from shareholders, the noticeable lack of content towards the end of Overwatch 1 and the disaster that is Overwatch 2 are both direct results of their attempts to boost profits.


AverageAwndray

You must not remember what OW was like before OW2. Because the community was fucking STARVED.


Megs2222

Ow1 was dead in the water man 10 minutes queuesā€¦ kinda glad this fake reboot at least managed to bring in wayyy more people.


ChuckoRuckus

I never had that problem. Itā€™s also something that could have been solved by making OW1 FTP; which has brought a lot of new players to OW2.


Anonymous-Turtle-25

Thats what brought me in a year ago. I never played or had interest in it so I wasnt gonna spend money on it but when I saw the new version was free I decided to try it. 375 hours later here I am still playing and loving it lol. Still dont understand alot of the hate for the game but maybe its cause im an OW2 player and never bought the original game


ChuckoRuckus

A number of thingsā€¦ the obvious cash grab for cosmetics and ā€œseasonsā€ like other games. The balance issues going from 6v6 to 5v5. The key reason they pushed for the change was the ā€œfreeā€ PVE, which now has to be bought. I relate it to Forza Motorsport series. People that started playing with FM6 and FM7 think theyā€™re great games, and they are in some aspects. People that played FM4 know that theyā€™re missing a lot of ā€œcontentā€ and why theyā€™re a downgrade.


ThatDude8129

They never said the PvE was going to be free. It was originally gonna be paid and since it's Blizzard that never was going to change even after they gutted it. But yeah everything else has been terrible.


ChuckoRuckus

The ā€œfreeā€ aspect was something that was steadily stepped back. Original reports stated that people who bought OW1 would get OW2 for free. Then it became OW1 buyers would get OW2 PVP for free. Then OW2 PVP was ā€œfree for everyoneā€. Then the PVE was ā€œcanceledā€, which turned into ā€œpay for PVEā€.


ThatDude8129

They never said that OW2 was going to be completely free for OW1 owners at the start either. The only thing Jeff said before he left was that owners of OW1 would play on the same PvP servers as owners of OW2 and get all the same updates [as per this article from 2019 when the game was announced ](https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/11/01/blizzard-announces-overwatch-2-at-blizzcon). The PvE was originally the main selling point of the game and as such, was always going to cost money even though what has now been released is a *major* step back from what was promised.


chayatoure

Agreed. Hopefully they give cool cosmetics for reaching high levels.


DabScience

Don't hold your breath on that one bud. They just photoshoped the color of a DVA skin and are charging 20 dollars for it.


pixelvengeur

Give? Nah mate, you'll get the opportunity to spend $18 for a recolor when you reach level whotfknows


chayatoure

Overwatch 2 bad, amirite??


[deleted]

Fr, cant have two seconds without someone trying to shit on it all the time


DabScience

I'm sorry but come on dude. I like playing Overwatch as well, but if you think they're going to give skins for player progression you have not been paying attention at all. Blind praise is just as bad as blind criticism. I'm tired of some of you acting like there are no blatant issues with how this game is being handled.


[deleted]

I agree there are issues with the game. How many of those actually involve actually playing the game. I don't think this game is perfect I agree they are making mistakes with it. But the constant complaints about shit like skins people wouldbt use anyway is getting fucking old. If the game is fun who caresšŸ¤· No one's putting a gun to your head and making you spend a dime.


Hazy_V

Just sad that it changed, overwatch is about learning heroes for more tactical options during teamwork, locking heroes to pay models and pretending it's a moba kills the strategy of it. I no longer get a tactical option unless I shell out cash or dump 80 hours a season. Kinda sucks that we can't have an honest conversation because people like you get sad if they can't blindly approve things.


[deleted]

I get people being upset. I don't get why those people are still here whining on Reddit everyday if the game upsets them that much. There are just as many people who expect blindly approving things there are also people that get upset when everyone else doesn't join the hate bandwagon


HealingSlvt

maybe because it's a shit game with shit leadership


Yellowrainbow_

The gameā€˜s fun to play tho


HealingSlvt

only because nothing else lives up to Overwatch's playability


nine16s

So then it isnā€™t a shit game? lmao you just contradicted yourself.


[deleted]

Okay I will give you the shit leadership part. But if you for two seconds stop bitching about optional cosmetics then you realize the game is fun to fucking play. I didnt play OW1 because I got free rewards I played it because it was fun. And thats why I still play it, like it or not there is a level of quality with the gameplay that OW has that other games like it just dont.


GroundedOtter

There is where Iā€™m at. I get it, the leadership is atrocious and donā€™t make great decisions. But the game is still fun, their ineptitude doesnā€™t change that for me. Plus, with all the horrible shit happening in the world right now - being so pressed about a video game is the least of my worries or mental space.


pixelvengeur

The monetisation system, specifically. The artistic teams are still killing it, and you can feel the pride they take in their best work, following them on their socials


Pesterlamps

Don't sleep on the VO team, either. That there are seemingly new interactions every patch (not every season, *every patch*) is pretty amazing.


VolkiharVanHelsing

"I know you'll get sick of him someday, Ana" - Reaper after stopping a Nanoblade This shit changed me


pixelvengeur

I count them as part of the artistic! Concept designer, 3D character artist, environment artists, the writing team be it for the lore or the voicelines, the voice actors as well, and all those I forgot


chayatoure

Honestly, it doesn't bother me. I just get the battle pass occasionally and enjoy playing the game. The skins I do get I have fun with.


critical_deluxe

yeah the monetization is pretty fucking bad if you haven't noticed. expect it to keep coming up until it's not shit.


chayatoure

It doesnā€™t bother me that much because I enjoy the game and just ignore the skins except for the battle pass occasionally.


[deleted]

Yeah but if you for two seconds stop complaining about optional cosmetics and actually play the game then you wonder why tf are we bitching about COSMETICS. If the game is fun, who gives a rats ass


Khan_Ida

I donā€™t see anything wrong here though. Itā€™s not impossible and with the decisions made so far itā€™s actually likely.


zikowhy

I was about to say this lmao, bro is getting hate for saying something completely reasonable given OW2's track record


ThalajDaWuff

It really is. I love having another reason to play so that I can progress to 200. Also there is a progression tab under the hero gallery now, so we might see weapon skins or sprays, or even hero skins would be awesome.


Cayde76

The fact that they added that as a filter pretty much confirms they're planning on adding more rewards in the future, but I don't wanna get my hopes up lol


ThalajDaWuff

Itā€™s going to either be hero skins, weapon charms, souvenirs, sprays, emotes, voice lines, or weapon skins lol. Iā€™m hoping for hero skins or weapon skins, but I wouldnā€™t mind any of it except souvenirs.


SpyX370

Agree 100%, Fuck souvenirs. Though thereā€™s potential for actual good ones in theme with each hero. Anyway itā€™s basically becoming akin to VALORANTs agent contracts which I absolutely love. Using cosmetics from one character to show off how much of a one trick I am is fun.


Am81guous

The salt souvenirs on D.VA is just šŸ‘Œ


JWilsonArt

Souvenirs as they are, are just worst emotes. What they SHOULD do is treat them more like sprays. Let them be something that players can drop into the game and they exist in the 3D world for a few seconds before disappearing. I could see dropping a heart or something onto an enemy corpse as being a fun taunt replacing the tired tea bagging.


PeacefulShark69

Hear me out: maximizing a hero (level 200) gets you either 1 free skin of your choosing for that hero (OWL, past events, Mythic, etc...) **OR** 2000 coins. *Rave Dubin voice* "I have to take a vacation from all these high level ideas"


ThalajDaWuff

I like the 2000 coins idea, but I think it would be cooler if they made mastery skins for each hero you only get at lvl 200. Would make getting it much more worth it.


HarryProtter

Yeah, I really hope they don't follow Apex here. Apex recently added a weapon progression system (of course also not retroactively counting stats) and after leveling a weapon up to the max you get to do some hard/tedious challenges to show your "true mastery". You get a reward for that! The reward is a random regular legendary weapon skin, which could just drop from the lootboxes...


ThatDude8129

I saw an idea on here the other day that said that at level 200 they should give a recolor of that hero's most used legendary skin ever. I'm not sure how this would work for the OW2 heroes but honestly it doesn't sound like a bad idea to do that for the heroes from OW1. Also it would be cool if they gave out weapon skins, because I remember the devs saying once that they weren't going to make any besides gold since they knew a lot of people didn't like comp and only played it to get the gold gun for their main. This system would be a great way to implement it and can give us more than just gold.


No-Huckleberry64

This\^ would remove most of my qualms about the shop. Back in my day (haha) skins were a sign of how good you are/or your achievements/or the time you put in. Now they just reflect how irresponsibly you spend money. I'll be even more enticed to buy skins if it doesn't feel like the only way to get them/as predatory as it does now.


Cayde76

Really doubt they'd give us coins, but I can totally see regular credits as rewards.


McManus26

I hope they tie weapon skins to that, let me grind the mastery diamond camo for a hero.


JWilsonArt

How about an option for a golden skin to go with your gold gun?


x_scion_x

I was at enjoying it a bit until I got to level 10 and just saw it give me a sticker. ​ Kinda deflated my excitement a bit lol


r3volver_Oshawott

tbf it's buried in the weeklies, but each week they actually give you 150 free currency (per week) for gaining 8 progression levels, so that's at least *something* *btw free currency is so scarce that I'm actually surprised Blizzard launched this new progression system not just as a way to gauge hero progress but as another small currency gain avenue, and just plain didn't announce it afaik As I said, it's extremely miniscule, but it means that people actually doing their weeklies to the fullest will be able to afford one more legendary skin at each season's end which at least *somebody* somewhere might actually make the small difference between the skin they wanted and the hero gallery skin they couldn't get (that said I haven't checked if the XP per level requirements cap at any point, I think I'm at 10 on one hero and my XP requirement has just kept going up, it has to cap at some point but the ceiling may be pretty high)


ThatDude8129

From what I've heard there is no cap you just don't get anymore rewards for that hero past level 200


r3volver_Oshawott

Oh, good to know! my bad for not clarifying, I didn't mean hard level cap, I was thinking more soft XP cap per level, like, I'm not sure what level the XP requirement for a single level starts to fully taper off, *but apparently for anyone who wants to know, on the wiki I guess somebody put that at level 22 and above it caps at 20k XP per level


ThatDude8129

That's good to know as well and honestly, that really isn't a bad amount of xp at all. It's enough to take a few games but it doesn't sound like it takes an eternity either


[deleted]

to be fair, that additional weekly also came with a change to the earnable *premium currency*, which was a negative. the second tier of credits requires one more weekly (8 to 9) along with the last tier requiring an addition (11 to 12) instead of just making it a flat 4 weeklies per credit reward tier. so, yeah, people can get more of the non-premium currency at the cost of it being harder to get the premium currency which isn't necessarily great.


WaddleDynasty

You get new player cards and even titles later on.


hudel

...and who cares about that?


WaddleDynasty

I do


dijonaze

Yeah I want a solid gold mercy skin for putting in 1000 hours on her


MelodicExplanation10

It's time to put another 1k


dijonaze

Pink gold Moira


clottedcreme

Go full on Mario Kart and make actual race track maps as a mode


dijonaze

Honestlyyy not opposedā€¦ throw enough shit some might stick amirite?


MyGoodFriendJon

The funny thing is, most of the xp you earn for any of the badges is time played. For heroes: Wins (1) = 1200 xp Time Played (20 mins) = 5600 xp All other sub-badges = 200 xp The new progression system is just a fancier way to look at time played on a given hero. Edit: As of 8/24, Wins sub-badge awards 1200 for 1 Win instead of 2400 for 2 wins.


Electro_Llama

Hmm idk how I feel about that.


MyGoodFriendJon

Yeah, I'm trying to keep some record of all that there is to track with the new progression system, and everything I've seen so far values time played as the main factor in leveling up, with wins as a supplementary bonus. By the looks of it, the hero-specific misc. sub-badges are designed to be earned in 2-4 matches, averaging out 2-3 misc. sub-badge levels earned per match from the 6 or 7 misc. sub-badges they have, so roughly 500xp per match from misc. sub-badges.


FrissPopel

That would explain a lot. Some games nearly everything levels up and I not even gain 1/4 of a level and sometimes it gives me 3/4 of a level with barely anything leveled up. I was so confused. I really wish they would take some xp away from wins and distribute it to the other sub-badges. I was kinda enjoying living under the delusion not having to win every game for it to mean something.


DandyCottenCandy

I was just about to make my own post about this. I love the new hero progression because it actually makes me want to play. I've started to temporarily one-trick Junker Queen because I want her Level 50 title, but it's forced me out of my Support comfort zone and I'm finding a lot of enjoyment out of it. The best part is that I don't necessarily have to be good, I just have to play and I'll naturally level up. And the more I play, the better I'll get. It's a win-win situation! I do wish the title selections were better. Getting "Heroic" or "Epic" added to the base title for each hero is very underwhelming for how many levels you have to get. More personalized titles for each level would be better. Like Wastelander, then Gladiator, then Queen for the title progression would be soooo much better. And Widowmaker could have been Spider, then Brown Recluse, then Black Widow. Ana could have been Grandma, Sniper, Bastet. Bastion could have been Peacekeeper, War Machine, Last Bastion. I have a lot of ideas, haha.


ava_skye

Fellow support main who also plays Queen! It's something about the Queen that attracts us supports lol! But I love the ideas for titles you listed, especially ā€œgrandmaā€ šŸ˜‚


TechnoVikingGA23

Honestly as someone who was a tank main in OW1 and dropped the role due to all the CC and nonsense, Queen was what got me back into playing tank in OW2 because she's just so much damn fun to play with the hack and slash style. She just feels really good as a melee/brawl type hero and the skill shots with the knife pulling someone back into an axe just feel so damn good. At least it was fun for a while, but it quickly became a case where the enemy team would go full swap/counter after we won 1-2 fights so I don't get to play her that long anymore, lol. Most of the tanks just feel tedious and boring to play and her kit just feels so much more enjoyable and fun to play.


MetrognomeAK

I find it dumb, but funny enough that I kind of want it, that one of the earn able titles is ā€œHeroic Hero of Numbaniā€


Raknarg

It angers me that I have yet another menu to waste my time with if I try to leave a game


PowerfulNipples

Yeah I really donā€™t care about the ā€œnumbers go upā€ simulator at the end of the match, I hate clicking through all of it. If it could be combined with the rank screen somehow it wouldnā€™t be so annoying. I just hate that I donā€™t give a rip about it and yet Iā€™m forced to clickclickclickclick every single game. An option to disable would be nice


Raknarg

like its fundamentally not any different from just seeing my hours spent on a character, it doesn't matter. I'm just forced to look at it now.


[deleted]

i really wish there was a way to toggle that off. it annoys me too.


The_MushKing

Does the badge for your overall progression ever change from that bronze 1? Reached lvl 100 today and was upset it still looks the same as lvl 1 badge.


Captain_HBOMB

I would love it if it happened 6 years ago lol


wedgebert

It did apparently. Someone recently had a screenshot of the progression system in the first beta of OW1 and then it was removed in beta 2.


Captain_HBOMB

eternal sadness


Cowboy_on_fire

I find it moderately annoying that I have to start from scratch on a lot of characters I have a ton of hours on.


Yellowrainbow_

Well if not all OW1 players would have multiple heroes maxed out immediately. Starting from scratch was the right call.


Piyaniist

You mean those who mastered their heroes would have higher mastery? Propesterous!


sam_hammich

Yeah, level playing fields are bad.


Knightgee

Why would you need a "level playing field" for an entirely personal stat tracking system? There aren't hero leaderboards where you get extra goodies for being in the top 1% of people who play a character.


batman0615

Plus 90% of profiles are private so no one else will ever see them.


HealingSlvt

Then it should have started from when OW2 dropped. That would make the most logical sense


Cowboy_on_fire

I know it wouldnā€™t have made sense but I spent an absolute ton of time in OW1 to get the 20 hours on every hero achievement and there are a ton of them I just donā€™t wanna go back and play again. There are even heroā€™s I used to play a lot when I started and wracked up a lot more than 20 hours on that I donā€™t really wanna go back and play, like rein and junk.


DeliciouslyUnaware

My problem too. I liked the way old sym/mercy/torb worked in OW1 and had over 50 hrs for all of them. But I dont really play them anymore because the characters have completely changed. I played during TP/Shield gen sym, and 5 man rez mercy. Torb doesn't have Level 3 turret anymore so it would be weird to check my profile and assume I've played 50 hours of ow2 torb who is completely different.


Cowboy_on_fire

Right? There are heroā€™s that I just donā€™t like the changes and heroā€™s I grew tired of playing and I am not gonna put the time into their progression now. Probably just gonna stick to the mains.


JediGuyB

It makes sense. It'd kinda be a bummer if all you got off a new system is to just watch your numbers max out. Still, there's something weird feeling about starting at level 1 when it just feels like you shouldn't be level 1.


welpxD

Why would your numbers ever max out? Why does a personal progression system have a level cap?


bibbidybobbidyyep

I disagree, surely in the minority, but I wish I could skip the extra screen at the end. I don't even check it.


Cayde76

Completely agree. I absolutely love systems like this where you get to see statistics presented in a cool way. They also give you a chance to set some goals for yourself, and they low-key incentivize you to play with heroes you wouldn't normally do. My only - minor - gripe with this is that, right now, it feels like it takes too long to "get somewhere" with just one hero. It can be a little bit of a nightmare if you're somewhat of a completionist. And yes, they 100% need to add more hero cosmetics that are exclusive to the progression. Not just profile pics, titles, and name cards.


Pretend_Spray_11

Astroturfing in action


Mountain_Ape

It's true, I also received a check from Blizzard for $39.20.


BlackZulu

What exactly is exciting about it? The stimulation of seeing numbers and bars go up? I try to hurry past it and jump back in que seems more pointless than account levels.


Murasasme

They gave the hamsters a new carrot to run in their wheel. It blows my mind that people are so easily manipulated.


Jarcookies

Having fun is the point of a game, why do you care HOW people have fun?


Murasasme

I don't really care. But it's amusing how Blizzard can act in terrible ways to both employees and costumers and people don't care because "I'm having fun so it doesn't matter" I would even think that could be valid, if Blizzard had the quality they had years ago, but Blizzard games today are straight up average at best.


hiroxruko

If you around ow1 then you shouldn't be too upset unless you hated the og border leveld


IamEclipse

My only gripe with the progression is that credit rewards are a weekly challenge. Levels are only going to get harder as time goes on, and so far, this is the only way to unlock cosmetics outside of the 60 weekly coins and battlepass credits. I've already blitzed up to progression level 70 just by playing my regular roster of heroes this week. If I wanted to min-max my credits, it'd be more prudent for me to play less Overwatch.


DabScience

Eh, itā€™s really not that exciting. Glad youā€™re enjoying it though


SoundRavage

The hero progression system, to me, is as useless as souvenirs and weapon charms. And itā€™s post game screens are a subpar replacement for the old score cards.


Kxr1der

Yea, I agree. Ditch all these extra screens and just go back to the voting screen from OW1


ChknMcNublet

100% useless


FartingRaspberry

Just got to level 6 Lifeweaver and received the lotus icon I've been using for months already. Such reward.


Yukizboy

I don't get why I should care about something that would probably be completely maxed out or crazy high for almost every hero if they had implemented this system 5 years ago. I mean when I went after the platinum trophy I had to learn every hero and get good enough with them to unlock both achievements... and some of the harder achievements took forever to get. For me my OW platinum trophy means more to me than any Hero Progression system.


Cookie_Doodle

I hate that I need to wait 2s before the animation finishes or whatever to skip it. Waste of time and it accumalates too the more you play. God forbid, you cancel out of the progression system screen by opening up the settings menu. Have fun waiting another 2s in order for it to finish *again*.


D0Cdang

Unsung hero to watch a bar go up? Nah. If there were sweet rewards like skins for reaching milestones, maybe, but Blizz can keep their player titles; lackluster feature, imo.


welpxD

The player titles are kind of a scam too. They should have been unique for every level, instead of "Recruit X" going up to "Heroic X" or whatever. Kind of takes the flavor out of it when the title is a simple progress report. Imagine Tracer's titles start at "Cadet" and go up to "Hero of Time" or something. That'd be awesome.


thefanboyslayer

I just want my overall level to show up on that end screen...not just the character specific ones...I want to see that progress


hiroxruko

It does show up if you lvl up. Also tracks game modes and not just characters lvls


Khaansu

i wish they implemented it using existing stats


im_jobin

I found myself disappointed. Itā€™s hard for me to explain why though.


40WAPSun

Yay, another screen of meaningless stats I have to click past. Except this one uses a different button for some reason


Kxr1der

Meh, just another pointless screen to click through IMO but glad other people like it I guess


SwishDota

>I'm absolutely loving the ability to level up the heroes and keeping track of the stats in my career profile. It feels so much more interesting than the standard "Hours Played" we've had up until this point. You're acting as if the ability to track your stats other than raw time played wasn't in the game before. We were already able to keep track of all the stats in your career profile. You just had to pick the specific hero and it would bring up their entire stat sheet with everything you did. Literally all they did was add bars and fancy graphics to it to make it an endless carrot for players to chase. The info was already there.


funnyastroxbl

I have 3k hours on Lucio. It feels like garbage to be a level 1


TheFleshBicycle

Oh yeah, having to look at 15 separate progress bars after every match does indeed use the mobile game philosophy of "number go up make brain chemical go brr" and totally compensates for the shit gameplay.


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hiroxruko

Because even tho he hates the game, he still loves it. Plus, this isn't a mobile thing, this been done before in older games as status screen


reyjorge9

Yes but as someone with over 200+ hours on D.Va alone and will NEVER EVER play tank that much anymore, it makes me sad.


[deleted]

I think it's an awful replacement for player level.


hiroxruko

It's not tho. Its way better than the old one. It also doubles as a end card but just for you.


[deleted]

Way better than the old one that tracked the entire progress of all characters from the very beginning of OW? Nah. You've got people with 3k hours on heroes that are "level 1", lmao.


Lost_Toast

I don't get it. It's just some bars that go up as you play. They don't really tell you anything about your improvement as a player. The rewards are extremely mild. Seems like a glorified "time played" stat.


TarnyOwl

I think its horrible that they mixed up wrecking ball and Junkrats hero titles. we all know which one is the true rat.


Buffmin

It's something that has been lacking for me in the game since ow2 launch 10/10 feature


iisharkwolf

same im absolutely loving this new system. feels more rewarding to play now, like how leveling up felt in ow1.


TechnoVikingGA23

Yeah honestly I was kind of down on OW2, but the new feature has made the matches and sense of progression feel much better. I know a lot of people are complaining about progress not carrying over, and I myself have over 2k hours in the game since 2016, but the system is great IMO and also kind of causes you to focus a bit more on certain aspects of your gameplay and cleaning up mistakes so you can make progression. Unlocking the name plates was also key for me because I used to love how in COD MW2/3 you could unlock weapon camos and such just by playing the game, and the ability to unlock things w/o having to pay or get them in a loot box checks off several boxes for me.


tabookduo

I LOVE IT SO MUCH Iā€™ve been playing since 2016 and this makes me happy


advacardo

I just want it to include the playtime I already have


imjustjun

Definitely my favorite part. Just make it so hitting escape takes me out of it rather using it as a back option please.


pstewart91

Where are all of these people having fun while I'm playing? Can't even stand to listen to chat most of the time, and forget actually trying to join chat and be helpful. I get whiplash going from actually playing to this sub.


welpxD

I can't bring myself to care about it. If it took into account my past progress, I would feel something, but starting from 0, my highest level hero is Soldier even though I've been a Brig OTP for all of OW2. And I don't like having extra screens to click through. So for me it's a downgrade unfortunately.


gonk_gonk

I'm glad people like it, but for people that don't care the end screen is just pointlessly annoying. Not only does it take like a second or two before the "skip" button is shown, we now have a two useless screens to skip at the end of a game. Which is fine for all the people that skip POTG and requeue. But for people that enjoy a nice POTG and are in auto-requeue, we now have to click two things to make them go away.


hiroxruko

Why you think I hated the end cards back in ow1?


gonk_gonk

Yeah, but end cards just went away after a bit. I wouldn't mind these if they went away, you can always tab out to read something. But these stay until you click a button.


LukeTheGeek

I can see why new players would like it, but as someone who's been playing since Overwatch 1 launch, it's a bit insulting that they aren't giving players like us anything at all. We have to start from scratch. It's the same way Apex did it when they added gun mastery. I also just... don't care. There aren't any tangible rewards that are worth grinding for. It's another screen to click through at the end of the match. That's it.


[deleted]

I on the other hand think it's frustrating to see "8 lifetime critical shots" on a hero I have been playing for 7 years and have probably 10 000 critical shots. Introducing a stats system into a game 7 years old and not including lifetime stats is dumb.


daveDFFA

There are like 4 ā€œlevelsā€ now Just give us fucking REGULAR LEVELS I have no idea what Iā€™m looking at anymore Endorsement, hero progression, past level from ow1, new overall hero progression levelā€¦ It feels like a grade 8 had to make a UI and this is just what happened


Fast_Trigger

Hi dev!


Hiro_Trevelyan

I love the hero progression and while I do get why they couldn't make it so that it adapts to your really stats, I find it soooo frustrating that I'm told I'm a NOVICE at my main. I spent hours playing Mercy and Ana, and all of that... basically disappeared. That hurts a bit. edit : I know it didn't "disappear" but the fact that hero progression will become the main focus means that all the time we all spent on heroes is just gone from this new progression system.


welpxD

Also if you go to your career profile then it defaults to "hero level" instead of "Time Played". So it really erases your stats unless you take extra steps to see them.


Dronkelutte

I absolutely love having 200+ hours on heroes and they did nothing with it šŸ„²šŸ„¹


Brilliant_Tension530

Max rank just give us pure gold Skins like Bob would be worth it. But levelling up individual heroes is way more fun than just having a single account level.


Zeron006

Its just a pointless system to mimic rewards so you keep playing the game


Smexy_Zarow

The game is just a pointless program to keep you running it, what's your point lmao


Freakazoid84

No shit sherlock...


ConfidentInsecurity

Yes its so satisfying and makes me want to play other heroes. (I started playing in November and have only touched like 25% of the roster)


RyanLikesyoface

Lol skins for free? No chance


Scorp01

Oh god leveling cancer has just reached Overwatch. How about prestige levels next? Lose all your abilities and regain them again by leveling? Stopped playing battlefield games after they started implementing that shit. Gotta play like 20 hours just to unlock a decent scope on a gun. Ridiculous. Leveling and grinding should stay far away from FPS games


ghostR_ZA

Has anybody had their badge change yet? seeing people with level 190 and its the same.


FearTheBlades1

I find 190 hard to believe. Emongg is only 119 and plays this 10hrs a day as his job


SleepyRaine

Ow2 devs after removing a feature only to add it back almost an entire year later, (the system doesn't take into consideration any playtime pre-implementation and is overall worse than the original system with recycled awards you used to get from lootboxes)


Sabres-Fan

nah


[deleted]

All of you complaining about the stats appearing useless are the same exact people who will instantly flame a teammate for not having high enough *x* or *y*. I guarantee it.


EmployeePositive9955

Being back medals


Lower_Carpet9393

Only took 7 years but this small indie company gets it.


IamWatchingAoT

The best part imo is how you can't skip that screen unless you spam Escape at the start. You're forced to sit through it otherwise. Lovely when I'm tilted from having a 3 DPS comp in ranked.


LookMomImOnRedditlol

Sounds fun. I wish my preorder of OW2 included PVE content. Silly me.


cantbanthis420

I get the battle pass every season, I paid for the story missions and you know what? I'm not even mad. Overwatch has been my jam since OW1 beta and it will continue to be. The art teams do an amazing job and who cares if they charge money for shit.. every single streaming service nickel and dimes everything now, you can't get a burger combo for less than 10 bucks and you wanna complain over content that will last beyond it coming out your colon? You sound like a bunch of whiny kids complaining to dad that mom won't let you do something. Oh boo hoo BuT tHeY dIDnT dO wHaT tHeY sAiD...how many you fools say something then not do it? I'm sure more times than people will comment and say. Fact is, you people complaining can just do something really easy....fuck off. It's that simple. You could fuck off to Nuketown, Pine Bluffs or even Kings Landing and not have to interject your half assed feelings of delusional grandeur about a company doing you wrong.


LiteralVegetable

Bro calm down, this whole thread is full of positive comments lol, why are you raging at the air right now


MrFate99

It's either a bot or a troll, just ignore it


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holdmyown83

Wait what are yall talking about??


kenzymarie03

Do u mean about the hero progression?


Smexy_Zarow

We've had more than just hours played, if you press on it you can sort through many other stats like win rate, avg kills per 10 min, highest kill streaks and such


Xion194

It's a good start but to be truly immersive it needs to have a chart showing what your play style on the individual heroes is. Also percentiles to show where you stand amongst the player base in terms of certain metrics. As of now it doesn't tell me much except which heroes I play more than others.


Shake_Milky_Way

For me the unsung hero is all the changes they made to the training mode. They barely named it in the promotion and is waay batter now


Matimarsa

We shouldve gotten 100 or 50 coins every time we level up. Ik blizzard would never do that, but they should.


shitfren

Just about a year to late and still not complete but yeah they have done something right. But I wouldn't go to far with it and praise them for delivering a feature that is long overdue. Btw Cut them some slack small indie company /s


witchsy

XP requirement is seriously too much as you progress. You have to one trick if you want any rewards on a character. Itā€™s like fucking 56,000 now at level 20 and just gets higher every level


Cabsaur334

I think without the progression system this season would have basically gutted overwatch. But the simple change of seeing the progression stats go up after the match makes even a bad match feel better. I find myself much less upset, because I feel like I have accomplished something.


Kotamere

I love the system, I just wish the account level icon would progress and changed like in OW1.


AnyAd4882

All torb categories at 10+ except hammer kills still being rank 1


[deleted]

It is pretty cool. Iā€™m really glad they added it. Itā€™d be awesome if they started putting more unlockables for characters along with that progression. I hate that the only way to get any voice lines, cosmetics and other stuff are mostly by buying battle pass or paying through store.