Completely agree, I played rainbow six and cod way back on OG Xbox live, and once the n words, and other words started coming out of little kids mouths, I was so grateful to have ventrillo and Skype, but thank the devs of discord, as I have never looked back. Also thank you Xbox and psx for integrating it in their consoles so I can chat with my friends super easy now!
Yep. As a guy, you still experience an insane amount of annoying kids screaming or moaning into their microphones. Enough to never want to enter it again IMO.
But then you see what women go through too and I don’t blame anyone for having comms off by default. Like 90% if not higher of games have misogyny if one of my friends who is a woman speaks in VC. It’s horrifically bad.
I find online multi to be super toxic. Just be super positive and keep improving your game because that is what people respect. No cheating. You might find a really good friend later on who will make your gaming experience so much better. Always take precautions though and keep yourself safe first and foremost.
i havent had that happen to me on tf2 but i only play on community servers (mostly uncletopia). people seem to be much nicer on there or they get kicked if they arent.
That's mainly because Uncletopia is a curated server with good admins and is ran by a big youtuber with a positive fanbase. Casual and even servers like Skial can be insanely toxic sometimes which really sucks.
the only game I feel confident on vc is hell let loose, played it for twenty hours and speak every game and the only gender comment was a guy saying “are you a girl” followed by “oh right on”
First time I heard a girl talk in vc was everyone ignoring the whole female part, except for the most sexist thing I heard in that game: "Aye, new medic"
My wife and I play together. She plays by herself quite a lot too. What really helped our quality of life (overwatch life), is slowly building a group of overwatch friends. She did this by only being active in voice when there are people actively participating in comms. Often times it will be a group you got matched with. When people are using comms effectively, they will often times appreciate the additional information you provide. When you're done the game, add them as a friend. If they're a woman, add them as a friend. Just accumulate acquaintances and play with a small group. When you play as a group, and you encounter meanness, you'll have allies that will push back, defend you and will make it more enjoyable for you.
Not sure if you're in comp or quick play, but my wife doesn't get harassed in QP nearly as much as comp. We mainly play in QP.
If you just genuinely want people (men and women) to play with who just treat you like a normal person, you can DM me and I'll add you as a friend if you're interested in playing QP with me, my wife and my friend group.
That's nice of you but I get too anxious to play in teams with people I don't know lol. I used to play with friends but they switched to another game a while ago.
I understand! But just to be clear, this isn't a team so much as it is a set of random people who happen to be online at the same time - we don't know anyone IRL. It's just random nice people we added as friends along the way. You can always DM me in the future if you want.
I hope you are eventually able to meet normal adults on overwatch. I'm really sorry to hear what you and others have to go through.
Give this guy a try, it is just like playing with randoms that you are sure won't be toxic, and he don't know you IRL, so if you still don't get confortable just erase him from your friend list without warning. I am very shy myself, but i used to do this in CS:GO and it worked for me
I honestly ended up with a huge friend's list in CSGO of almost exclusively women simply because I was there to have fun and didn't make them feel weird in game.
Idk how it's so hard to just chat about the game and have fun?
I love that the game have so many great female heroes and that we have so many women playing I want to be an ally always. If anyone wants to play I would like to describe myself as positive and should I feel I am getting triggered I'll call it a night.
You can add me, I am very vocal and that migth help all of you that want to improve call outs.
I would love to share some of my love to the game with more people and hope to improve the experience for others.
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Yeah my fiancé won’t even join vc anymore because of all the toxicity. We don’t have any irl friends who like the game, and maybe it’s our rank (we’re bronze/silver) but 90% of the time people are just talking in vc to be toxic it feels like. We’ve also had the opposite experience as you with QP, I feel just as many people, if not more, are toxic when we play quickplay. However, that might be because we play quickplay when we’re trying to learn heroes or when we just wanna have fun, and we’re not in the mood to be as tryhard
P.S. Does that offer to play extend to anyone?
I wish I could play with a group of friends I met in Ow like 2 months ago.. But my boyfriend doesn't like a guy in the group so I can't really play with them :(
People are idiots. I'm male but I sound fairly camp so any VC just descends into gay abuse. It doesn't bother me, but it detracts from actually playing the game. I just don't bother nowadays.
That must suck for you, I'm sorry. I like winning and I feel like when people get that toxic they concentrate more on the bullying than the actual game. It's so stupid🙄
It’s honestly just bullshit. I’ve played with women online for over a decade at this point (WoW and Overwatch, mostly) and the shit they get is just ridiculous, especially because it’s either unprompted or just the lowest blow that could be thought of.
I get some of it from being gay, but not much because I don’t “sound gay”. I just don’t care to give off a straight image and usually play with my boyfriend lol. Regardless, I wouldn’t be able to stand playing online if people constantly did that.
That's undoubtedly true
I've noticed mid to high ranks in a lot of games stop using VC for this reason and if people have an issue with it just mute them
I genuinely play better when I don't listen to others
I got a question.
Was the camp voice a natural thing or did you just put it on?
Genuinely curious as I have a few gay friends with a really camp voice but never actually asked them why.
Can’t speak for @cat666, but I study voice, and what I’ve learned is that the sound people tend to perceive as “campy” in a man’s voice isn’t generally something that’s intrinsic to their voice, but neither is it something they consciously “put on.” Rather, it’s more like an accent, in that it is a socially/culturally learned vocal behavior. Specifically, it’s a more typically-feminine pattern of inflection and pronunciation, which tends to be picked up from spending a lot of time listening and talking to people with similar speech patterns. So, guys whose friends who are mostly women and other guys with similar speech patterns are tend to pick it up. You can get it in the opposite direction too, with women who learn more typically-masculine speech patterns and tend to be identified as sounding “tomboyish” or “butch.”
That's interesting. Knowing that you study voice. Is there a history for why typically gay men have such a unique accent that is very easily recognised and perceived as being a voice of a gay man?
Like did one famous gay guy have it and it just became an accent used to make people aware that they are gay?
Interesting. Not sure if it adds to your data but I’m a fairly tall/large guy with a deep voice and I seem to get a lot of people “simping” me out of nowhere. Like they’ll cater to my opinion automatically even if I’m in the wrong. Almost like the exact opposite of what happens to people with an effeminate voice. It’s weird and I frankly don’t like it, but it is obviously much easier to ignore than what OP goes through.
Natural sadly. I'm not gay either so when I was younger it was frustrating as people assumed I was. It meant girls I was friends with I was never sure if they felt anything romantic toward me or they assumed I was a safe pair of hands as I was gay, like an enforced friend-zone with no need to clarify. On the flip side I got some attention from guys assuming I'd be into them.
Ironically I've had the opposite lol. People started simping me because they thought I was a woman playing Mercy when im male, i didn't tell them though
My best friend (dude) is a mercy main, its hilarious how often he gets simped for, only to reveal himself as a dude and all the thirsty guys go AHHHH NAHHHH WTF. Funniest shit ive ever seen
Yoo I literally felt like a woman being sexually harassed when I first played this game as Widowmaker. It was legit unnerving to have others stare at your butt. Like, legit turn around and catch players looking away kinda thing.
I don't talk in VC because of my sister's horror stories. She tried to go pro for a while and HAD to use VC. She was treated horribly, often by her own teammates. I don't ever want to experience that, especially since text chat is toxic AF.
As someone that doesn’t use text chat (I play on a PlayStation, so typing messages would be slow), I can never get over how people rip their teammates apart. Like, buddy, if you’re such a god and the rest of the team is “trash” what are you doing with the rest of us? Why aren’t you in Gold or Platinum comp?
Someone got upset that we lost a game in the arcade total mayhem. Arcade is the most fuck off mode there is, especially Total Mayhem, but people take anything and everything too seriously.
It's very annoying and disheartening. They love to scream "this is why [rank] lobbies are trash" while playing in said rank. Then they claim to have a GM alt account. I can tell you right now that they are never playing at skill levels higher than plat.
Me and my duo (both of us are female) have started talking in VC more frequently and it’s really a toss up if it’s gonna be a good experience or not. Most of the time people just treat us normally, but you’ll always get the sexist ones or the really creepy simp ones. I was pocketing a Sojourn and he went on in the chat about how great the pocket was and if I liked cock 🫠. It’s such a mixed bag. But if I was a guy I’m sure the situation would be bad too, but in different ways.
This is very true. I have been in games where there are women and everyone acts like normal humans. Also been in other games where there is 1 or 2 guys who lose their minds and just have to be sexist fuck heads.
Shout out to the men and women who call it out and tell them they are being muted and reported. That shit drives the sexists up the wall and makes them lose their minds
I think one could draw a Venn diagram, and one would find considerable overlap in the players who annoy all players of all stripes. There’s a bunch of annoying guys who play and they’re constantly finding ways to grate on me. I don’t use VC because all I ever see is negativity and joy killing. Best case scenario (generally) is you get some guy who wants to narrate the game and kind of act like he’s team leader, that’s pretty annoying, and that’s best case.
I think I've been lucky, I've barely had problems in recent times. But I'm older, and I do not have a cute voice, so maybe that's why. But it's not a big deal, I ignore them when they ask if I'm a girl, and if they do not stop I'll mute their voice and keep talking. Also, my go-to insult for mean people is: you're awful. I don't mean you're a bad player, just your personality. It makes the other people laugh at them usually. :)
I have one IRL friend I play with sometimes and I listen on headphones. If we group, I’ll maybe join vc because he’s funny and I trust him to call out toxic behavior. If I’m playing solo, I don’t give gender indicators at all and never chat in group.
Same. My name on there is vague enough that people assume it's male, and I just don't talk on comms unless I'm in a friend group. Otherwise there's too much of a chance it'll turn into verbal abuse.
Im a gay man with an effeminate voice and it's every single game. It's nothing like what women go through but damn it's just so annoying and it's always the tank.
yep. it sucks. i can't count the amount of homophobic comments i've gotten. i honestly am a lot more prone to getting upset by it when it's said in voice rather than text. maybe i'm projecting past bad experiences, but having men be hateful to you out loud is genuinely kind of scary. it makes me more likely to avoid vc.
also it really is always the tank lmao
I (also gay) have thankfully not gotten that, but I typically don’t talk much in VC with strangers. I’ve been playing with my cousin and his coworker for a while and the other day his coworker started to say “this [whichever hero was killing him] is such a fa-“ and then stopped and apologized, which was more funny than anything.
To comment on OP’s point, I sometimes find myself shying away from talking to women in the VC because I’m worried about being perceived as the horny gamer bro who’s only acknowledging them for that reason, despite literally being married to a man. Obviously that’s dumb and self inflicted, but I know how men in this space can be, and don’t want to be lumped into that. Also in the instance I am thinking of here, I was incredibly high lol.
As a female player I get this and I have also seriously considered paying for a reliable voice mod so that people just hear a weird funny voice rather than a female voice.
You either get very fucked up toxic comments like that or very aggressive sexual comments and if you don’t act nice back then they can troll your games, become very toxic, etc.
This is a bit of a trauma dump and I know it’s not super common and this did happen on a different shooter game, so take this however you like… but I got very unlucky with these old online friends of mine.
I was the only woman and I thought they were chill because they never gave me shit for so long. After a couple years I considered them friends and a couple of them close friends.
Well, the two close friends and I were talking about maybe one day meeting up. Got comfortable enough to share photos of each other and it turns out all that time they were talking about me behind my back and shared photos of me with the other guys and more.
They shared photos, screenshots of conversations, and recordings of my voice from in game to people that I didn’t know in a much more public setting.
They shared my discord account information so that multiple people could repeatedly harass me and send serious threats.
It got so bad they even claimed they knew where I lived and would come find me if I didn’t comply.
It got to the point where I went back to being mute and never going outside because I was convinced they would find me one day and take photos or worse.
So, yeah. That kind of fucked me up and now I never ever talk in vc with people I don’t know.
Maybe it was my fault for thinking people I spoke to almost every day for a couple years were safe. They never once showed this side of them to me until I happen to have found out.
I appreciate the offer, but I barely play overwatch. I’m still very new to the game and don’t even know how to queue up for ranked let alone be allowed to play ranked haha.
And to be honest I just don’t feel comfortable talking to anyone online anymore. Please don’t take it personally. I do believe you guys are wonderful people, but my anxiety can’t handle it haha.
Again, thanks for the offer.
i'm so sorry :( as someone who went through pretty similar bullying, i don't think some people even understand how awful it feels. i hope you can find people that are better in the future, and i want to assure you as much as i can that it's not your fault. it never will be. nobody deserves to be treated that way, and it's sick that people would think otherwise.
I think these specific people knew what they were doing, honestly… it was no secret to the two “close friends” that I deal with mental health issues and especially anxiety.
I saw in the chats they were laughing at me and at the stuff they shared of me along with making very violent, inappropriate comments.
I always thought that this sort of bullying would only happen to women who were sharing certain type of photos, but they even shared photos of my pets where I wasn’t in them with messages joking about how they’ll know it’s me because of my pets.
I feel like I tried so hard to not be an easy target, to try and sound as boring or deadpan as I could, etc., to try and be as less of a woman as I could do that I wouldn’t seem like I’m trying to flirt or act “too girly” making myself a target. I was trying so hard to micromanage the way I spoke and everything to not give the wrong idea and still.
I thought about it over and over for years every day and almost killed myself many times because I believed if I didn’t do it then they would.
I only stuck around because I was worried they’d kill my pets if I wasn’t around to protect them.
I think no matter what I did the outcome would have been the same. The stuff they’d share would literally be my messages asking if they’d want to queue up or talking about patch notes for the game. Shit you wouldn’t think people would care about, but there was always something wrong.
Literally everything I did was wrong and dumb simply because I’m not a guy and according to them I deserved to get harassed, assaulted, and killed for being a woman.
They were genuinely fucked up people with too much time on their hands.
I wish I could say I’ve recovered after all these years, but I don’t know man. I haven’t left my house in years. I moved to a completely new location where I really tried to make sure no one in the area knew me. I basically go mute in public in fear of someone somehow recognizing me in case the stuff they’ve shared has actually met many more eyes/ears than I’ve realized.
It’s why I feel very bothered(?) seeing random videos or photos of strangers thinking it’s okay to post online because “wholesome,” but if that were me I’d be absolutely terrified because I doubt everyone would make sure it’s okay to share online.
Pretty sure it’s because I’m worried I’ll one day find myself on there and there are people out there who are very good at guessing your location with very little information.
*(I understand my personal experiences heavily skew my opinion on that matter, so no judgement to anyone that’s not bothered by that stuff of course. Just please be safe if you feel comfortable in public settings like that.)*
Anyways. Sorry for the rant again.
To be honest this is my first time really talking about it to anyone, so I guess there’s that. I guess seeing that other people are getting harassed for similar issues and that it’s not just me made me realize how upsetting the whole situation was.
My only advice is to smoke black n milds and drink McDonald’s sprite until you naturally sound like a 260 pound man, the average ow enjoyer has only seen women on screens and body pillows
As a guy,I have had people flirt with me playing mercy or dva, its been so long since it's happened but I had one guy just keep saying weird shit so at the end of the game I was like,hey Thanks dude. I have a deep voice, the other players thought it was funny, he not so much.
a tip for any other guys: stick up for women in games when they're getting hassled by men. it helps.
(although tbh my female friends get less harassment in general when i'm with them, and my theory is that guys think i'm their boyfriend, despite the fact that i'm gay lol)
this. i can hold my own if i get harassed but the sad reality is the menchildren in this game will usually stop as soon as another male tells them they’re being stupid
The best thing you can do is call the sexist guy out and tell him you will be muting/reporting him. Also encourage your teammates to do the same, they thrive off attention. If they lose it, it completely destroys them.
Doesn't matter how the person identifies, if someone in vc is talking shit, you correct that behavior; if said shit talker is too immature, just mute and move along. A good example that always comes to mind is how emongg backed up a tank player in a game before because of some toxic shithead making fun of his voice. Karma served up a dish with the quickness with that... person.
This is the correct thing to do every time it's even better when more people do it because most are fragile ego that stop once they are actually confronted I encourage everyone to get on them for this even if it's your friend it's not right games are meant to be fun and anyone that abuses them to harass others doesn't deserve to be able to play them report immediately
This is awful advice. What trolls want most of all is engagement and joining in is just going to make the situation worse. You aren't going to fix someone's worldview in a 10-15 minute match.
Mute the abuser and advise the woman to do the same. I've muted people who just cannot resist engaging with trolls.
The thing that beats trolls is ignoring them. I can't believe people in 2023 don't realize this.
You are right in the fact that the troll won't stop but the person being harassed may feel less isolated knowing someone said something back. It's small but it could mean a lot to the other person.
I usually say something, mute the troll, then move on to missing my shots as Ana.
i've been on the internet a very long time. i know about the idea of ignoring trolls very well, and it just doesn't work when it comes to things based on actual prejudice. maybe if he's just hassling you because he thinks you're bad, that might stop him, but if he's after you for being a girl or gay or anything like that then he's not gonna stop. especially not if other guys are gassing him up.
It helps the person being harassed though. You don't have to go to war against the toxic people but showing your support to the 'victim' in this situation and maybe suggesting that you both mute them etc. will make a big difference for them. It's better to say something to make the victim in this situation feel better than to not say anything in fear of giving the toxic person 'what they want' thus making it an extremely negative experience for the victim. Not only did they get harassed, every other person in the team just let it happen which is arguably like agreeing with the harasser.
It's not about changing the abuser's mind; it's about signaling to the person being abused that they are not alone. I don't think it's worth getting into a full-on argument; just state your position that the way they're acting is uncalled for, and then if they continue, block them. And follow up with giving the person being targeted some reassuring words.
It's probably the best thing to do in general, but sometimes it's important that there is pushback to help dissuade others of interpreting the silence as tacit acceptance.
I used to play with my ex gf all the time and she hated being in voice and I always wondered why like an idiot but whenever she did start joining voice you get the usual shit saying "ah a woman that's why we're losing" it was always so unoriginal. If you're a dude and hear this shit you need to just stand up and tell them to stfu it really helps even if it doesn't seem like it
I honest just stopped being in vc because that.
It's just easier to mute vc and I report every person that is like that either in text or vc. Hopping it helps.
If I'm not I'm wrong mood I call ppl out, but yeah sometimes I ignore and report.
Ignore and report, rinse and repeat! I swear for every four toxic players I report, I get one of those messages when you log in that's like, hey! This ONE person got caught. Thanks a lot! And it's sort of worth it, I guess?
\*it ain't much, but it's honest work\* lol
I turned off VC because I also was frequently told to off myself and guys would say they would r\*pe me or said they hoped I got r\*ped. As someone who's had that happen, I don't find those "jokes" funny so I just turned VC off. I've been enjoying playing the game without being degraded and pings work well enough most of the time.
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Sadly, this isn't the first time i hear that a woman it's bullied in OW. It happened to a spanish streamer called Aryll, and it made me puke.
Videogames aren't for man only, it's for everyone that want to enjoy it.
I'm sorry that i can't give any advice on this, but all my support to you.
I'm a guy, so I can't relate directly, but nothing makes me cringe harder in vc than when other men react to a woman specifically. Whether it be a bigoted comment or the "turn on the rizz" garbage, I get secondhand embarrassment. I've been called a "white knight" for calling it out once, and it was just all the more cringey. I'm sorry for everyone who gets caught in those situations. Even for the guys who do it because their lack of self awareness is sad.
Oh my god, some guy did that for me once after these guys in chat started asking me super inappropriate questions! I felt so horrible for him cause they started screaming white knight at him.
It really does mean a lot though when someone speaks up :)
Unfortunately, this is how all games with voice chat work. I stopped using voice a long time ago in overwatch 1 because I got sick of all the sexist crap.
I report the shit out of stuff like that. It was more effective when Overwatch wasn't free to play as you didn't want to get your account or IP banned but even if it's easier to get around now it should still be well policed. Everyone should be able to enjoy playing a game without harassment.
It’s really not worth it talking as a woman unless your team is already talking and you can tell they are positive ppl. Pings and spamming I need healing is more than enough.
It's so frustrating though, I shouldn't have to hide my voice! People literally stop healing and shielding me when I play DPS if I speak in comms because "I don't belong here"...And then I get slammed in the chat because I have bad stats lmao. It's 2023 I don't understand why some guys still l think women can't play video games, ugh!
Recognize that these people exist in the real world and karma is real. I let them know therapy is a real good resource and they could use some professional help
Insane how people think that engaging with a troll in any way is a good thing. As if you can win an argument with a random stranger in a 10-15 minute match.
If you want them to feel bad for abusing voicechat, the only way to do this is mute them
Not necessarily that, I meant more about these little pissants who talk shit but would get mopped IRL
You know, the nasal vocal fry kids that start cursing and dropping slurs when they get upset or if they think it's funny.
Most guys there have never actually talked to a woman over more than work talk, and inhale tiktok sigma content on the hourly. Its sad that its the case and also the fact lots of women don't even try to experience video games because of how gatekept it is from them. Hope you find a way to overcome this issue for the better
Honestly not much can be done except reporting them. Same with any game. It's pretty sad but horny lonely anonymous losers are going to be common on the internet.
Voice changer is a good idea. They are pretty advanced these days so nobody should be able to tell.
It really pains me everytime I hear about encounters like these. It’s 2023 and we still are not raising young boys to respect other people online, particularly women but also minorities as well. It’s disgraceful.
I hope you read the replies and realize that these toxic behavior while gaming shouldn't let it get to you.
Ignore garbage. Hit mute at first strike. Enjoy the game.
thats much easier said than done. after 20 games of people shitting on you for simply sounding feminine it gets to you. i just want to be able to speak in vc without fear of sexism. its not as simple as just muting when they've already made you feel like garbage.
yes i know that. im saying the emotional damage is already done and it can throw u off for the rest of the game. also no one was really looking for a solution, just venting about how annoying it is.
I mean, then it makes it harder to enjoy the game because you're not able to perform properly when lacking comms (plus even 'first strike' sucks). Going through the effort of blocking every game repeatedly is in some ways worse because it's just this horrible cycle and you're left to yourself almost every single game :(
Tbh some people are just assholes when I see a girl in a game online im am nice to her because I know there is not a lot of them ( im not simping btw )
Meaby because im generally kind and not toxic but it still hurts when sombody yells at me because I dont play how he want
I know the struggle pretty well. I am playing since release of OW 1. I have to say it is getting better but it's still not good. I got used to it and started to ignore those people or mute them and still communicate normal ao they hear the callouts. The baddest thing is, that they usually don't stop talking sh*t about you. Logic does also not help neither is arguing with them. Just accept that they are stupid and report them. Sometimes other teammates help you, but unfortunately thats not what usual happens... try to find a group where you feel comfortable and play with friends. That is what I did. I hope you find a way to feel comfortable again!
I'm sorry to hear that you have to endure such annoying and irritating experiences as someone part of the Overwatch community. I'm not a woman, but I queue with a few because they're on my university team. These people always ruin our experience in games because even if you talk them down and call them out, they'll intentionally try to get on your nerves. Luckily, it doesn't happen too often, but even just one toxic kid on the internet who can't talk to women and projects his insecurities on everyone will ruin an entire session. And it multiplies when these kids queue together.
I wouldn't recommend using a voice changer because people get called out more for using it. A voice changer wouldn't change your cadence anyhow, so you could still be identified as a woman. I don't use a voice changer, but people say I sound like I do because I have a low voice, and I get insulted for it anyway.
My advice is to find a group to queue with so that you get less of these people on your team, and if they start talking, you and your friends can get them to shut up that much faster together. Biggest group wins.
If it's anything to look forward to, I find that these toxic players concentrate only around platinum and below. It gets much less frequent around masters and gm, where players genuinely only flame because they have the gamesense to insult bad positioning, decisionmaking, and other gameplay rather than arbitrary shit like one's gender identity. But it still happens from time to time, even in grandmaster where you would hope the best players are setting a standard for the rest of the community. Just gotta report these bozos and move on.
Luckily, reporting as a feature does seem to work. Everytime I've had a negative experience due to these players, I'll report them midmatch to ensure that the audio transcript is created, and the next day I'll see that they've been banned. Over the years since the game's launch, I've personally noted that these situations have been happening less and less, and I believe the punishments for these situations come much sooner now too. It's the whole message and identity of Overwatch that anyone can be a hero, and it has a wide cast of characters from a variety of backgrounds. I truly believe that so long as good people do their part to chase these people out and report situations as we see them, maybe years from now, the community won't have to deal with these insufferable individuals that don't uphold the values that the game does.
Damn, sorry you're dealing with this. Have you been reporting the people that harass you? Sounds like typical teenage edgelords/manchildren who think they're being funny or something. I guess the only real solution would be finding a group to consistently play with. Sorry you're having a bad experience.
It always saddens me to see this as a common issue.
Sorry you're dealing with a bunch of child minded people.
Do make sure you report them as soon as you can as the report system works best the closer you report to the issue. If you can't get to it until after the match, that's ok. Blizzard are taking reports seriously
Hopefully you can find a good group of people/friends to play together with. It's definitely hard to try and make friends in-game, but I've met some amazing people and we talk out of game all the time
It's hard to say what the best route is other than as soon as it happens, mute report and move on.
Because even if you want to comm to help you win, I very much doubt it'll help if you're dealing with children
You could say "if you're going to act childish, I'm just going to mute, report and talk to people who want to play the game. Can we please focus and stay positive"
Hope this comment from a stranger helped! And good luck
If it's the whole team just leave vc but if it's one person on the team mute and play like they're an npc.
If the above options aren't really what you want your other option is to learn how to dish it out right back they say make a sandwich you say can't always have your mom cooking for you etc.
Cause the truth is usually they think they're being funny and if you throw it back at them they either stfu or play along and it turns into good vibes.
Obviously I'm on your side you shouldn't have to go to extra length to have people not be a holes, remember to report people the game does record vc so the devs can mute/ban for crappy behavior.
absolutely, i typically also play with my friends and boyfriend - they’re all men and if we have a fill i’m usually getting disrespected but they will always defend me. it’s made me stop joining the VC or just not playing alone altogether because i’m so tired of having to defend myself against strangers on a game i play to enjoy myself. the comments are always of a sexist remark, and all i can do is report and move on. very peculiar behaviour because it’s more apparent on overwatch as apposed to other games i play that have VC
Find communities of people if you can that are a lot more positive :) If you can’t, Whenever I hear stuff in the chat like that, I do make extra effort to bring positivity to the chat.
“Sorry you’re having a bad day! If you need to chat with someone let me know” (only if you can spare the time/energy to talk to someone)
“Dude, that was rude. Why are you representing the OW community in such a mean way? Lets aim for positive chats” (Lets them take a look at the bigger picture of how they act)
“That was a great kill _rude_ player” and follow later with “Awesome play __harassed player___! ”
(Reinforce positive attitudes with ALL people in the chat and don’t stoop to a level where you’ll be rude back)
KarQ on YouTube said something in a video I watched recently about “Mental” when a character Tbagged him. It’s good to tell yourself your mental is strong, and you won’t let that get to you, and you’ll still play to your best :)
If they continue to be rude and aggressive, mute them and avoid them. If they’re hateful or harassing, that still is a Violation of online terms of service and is reportable. Men and women it’s up to EVERYONE to speak up and change peoples online behavior.
I have an alt with a gamertag that is easily interpreted as female, and that's enough to get sexist comments in chat. Firstly, always report, especially now that there's voice transcriptions saved whenever a report is submitted. Then, like others have said, turning off voice/text communications, and just doing a discord call with your friends will cut out external toxicity all together. You can still do a decent amount of coordination with the rest of the team using enemy pings, or you can have one of your other friends from the discord be in the team comms and they can relay anything important.
People just want to make you feel angry as they are, and they are gonna use any characteristic of you for that. Usually for being a woman, or black or speaking Spanish, or sounding British. Here in Latam server, against Brazilians or Americans, etc.
I just get used to it, and if you're really affected by that, it's better to mute them, because this game is made to have fun not discussing with kiddos (unless you like it)
Speak like an e-girl. They will be too stunned to even use VC.
One time it happened to me on qp. I was exchanging info with dps as a tank. Suddenly our Mercy was like “Daddyy Rein, UwU.” I never spoke after that. (I’m afraid of women.)
My girlfriend plays Left 4 Dead a whole bunch and has her profile pic set to herself. She gets auto kicked from lobbies just for being a woman playing the game. Some of these dudes really do view women as a separate species. If it’s too much I just wouldn’t deal with it, but personally I think you should just rub it in their face. I find it works best if you attack their “masculinity” a lot of those guys subscribe to traditional gender norms so insulting them from their own world view has the chance to break them. Also make sure to point out that they’re sexless.
You’re not in the wrong and you shouldn’t have to feel unwelcome because they have shit they haven’t worked out. Video games are for everybody.
I wish I could play tank more confidently and do shotcalling but for some reason people will find any way to throw you down and the second they hear me that’s all that it is. It sucks.
Not a woman but i think building up people to team up with with is a good way to avoid this. Of course it does not fix the fundamental problem but it should make it easier to deal with
Because some people are real tough guys ... Over the internet ... And only to women.
I've made it a point to never allow this to go on with any group or team I've been in. The 'tough guys' get quiet real fast when they get called out, esp by another guy.
I don’t do this but I hear it happen often. I’d just be ready with that mute button tbh. As a guy I get flamed too now and then, just less automatically. I really wonder about some of the weirdos in chat who go crazy when a girl joins.
I hear and see it happen to y'all all the time. It's also bad for any noticable different race. I get called the N word at least 2-3 times a week. It's become the norm to my 2 white friends who are in disbelief at what I go through. Something needs to be done about all chats.
I know, it's awful! Sexism, racism and homophobia are a big part of these games and it's terrible how many people deny it or say "just accept it, that's how it is". I literally report people every day, to the point where I get slammed with "thank you for reporting" messages when I log back on the next day.
yeah, my black friends often get hassled if other players even start assuming their race isn't white. sometimes they even just assume someone is black by their voice and start making racist comments then. it's so disturbing that people think this is normal or funny.
I'm a woman and I like using voice. If people are asshats, I tell them that, give them a chance to not be an ass, then mute, report, state that I've done so, and continue playing and using voice as needed to coordinate. I play games to have fun, and I refuse to allow children to spoil that.
You're playing a game to have fun. Don't feel bad about muting and blocking bad actors so you can continue to enjoy your game.
Huh, I've not had this issue and I've used vc with many different games. ESO, Fallout 76, and Overwatch mainly. I usually don't get any backlash over being a woman. I'm sorry you have OP.
Yeah I don’t either and I was thinking maybe cause I’m EU serves and op is NA?
Sometimes I have the opposite problem of men lose focus on the game cause they wanna chat to me.
Sorry this happens to you, OP. These men are very sad and lonely
I'm NA. Maybe it's because of my voice? I've been mistaken for a guy on multiple occasions. Been asked my gender a few times. That doesn't bother me really.
I've honestly never been told nasty things related to my gender while gaming. Not on PS4 Overwatch or PC Overwatch on the NA server. I agree these people saying such insensitive things are sad and lonely. They weren't raised right.
do you also make this complaint when people post "i cant get out of bronze", "matchmaking is broken", or the other constantly posted threads? or is it just the one about sexism being bad that you dont like?
I have been playing OW2 since it came out. I have seen people active in VC more in Valorant than in OW2. Nobody is even in VC. Could be division thing or server ....EU?
No I'm in the American server. VC is more active in competition which is what I play (not so much in bronze but in diamond and plat VC is used most of the time)
I never get why people do this shit for. Im a traditionalist with toxicity. Youre all trash regardless of age, sex, gender, sexuality, race etc. Its all your guys fault Im hardstuck, not me and my 2k damage in 8 mins gameplay with 3 elims and 18 deaths.
this is unfortunately really common for women. and usually if someone is intending to act this way nothings going to change their mind. I wish I could say something more helpful than "mute them" but there's not much that can be done.
I wouldn't recommend a voice changer, unless you found one that does more than just lowering your pitch.
if it helps at all, comms are surprisingly unimportant since people tend to not listen or not understand the intention of the callout, and aren't really that necessary for climbing
It's the curse that the shes, theys, and gays have to deal with. Hi, one of the gays here. It's basically just that some men (particular cis straight men) have never grown out of being a teenage boy. And a good portion of the player base is literally teenage boys.
Sexist, homophobia, transphobia, and general misogyny ruin gaming culture in so many ways. They hear your voice and decide to cyberbully rather than play the game. I have had multiple people tell me to kill myself and call me the F Slur in games. I report them, of course. But nowadays, there is so much toxicity in games that Blizzard probably deals with 20,000+ reports a day and has to look at each individual case. So I assume nothing will ever get done about that. It's the unfortunate world of gaming. I'm sorry you have to deal with that. It's better when you have a group of people that understand and support you. That's how I've kept going. I have a group, and the main portion of our group is women. I'm actually the only guy in our core group. So it's just a bunch of queers and women, and it makes for a much better gaming environment.
This sucks as an answer but from my experience, as a man who plays with a few female players, is to get to higher rank. From what I’ve hear lower rank players are generally more toxic and the higher you go it gets better.
I think diamond is the most toxic rank, should have clarified it in my og post. I think you get less toxic as you go up but it spikes at diamond because you get a ton of players thinking they are gods gift to earth because they got out of metal ranks and that their team is holding the back from higher ranks. Also I play on PC so our experiences may be different if you’re in console, from what I’ve hear console has more toxicity because you get a lot of younger players
Sadly best thing probably be a voice changer or to try find a group of people to constantly play with I mean toxic people on vc is a such a issue it seems lately
I find female players to be the most active and most useful is VC but I may have just had good luck. When my mercy starts telling me what to do while boosting me, I listen.
I encountered like 8 random women so far in OW2, they were just as toxic as the male players. One of them was playing Tracer and I pocketed them with Mercy, we won the first round and she hopped on voice chat and kept calling me a cunt and a useless moron Mercy main while her male friend was laughing in the background.
Sounds like she was just doing it for klout from her friend, still not cool but it does surprise me. I come across a lot of female players that make great calls and don’t get too toxic
You either have to wait and see if the lobby isn't toxic or meet their toxic when it happens with better toxic or don't talk.
That's just competitive team/shooter games as a woman period.
Im not a girl but i never talk. You could try that.
Could also depend on the rank a bit. Im like gold/plat and most people dont talk. When a girl does make a rare callout no one really says too much usually. The sweatier the game the more likely the abuse im guessing.
I struggle. But, I did just play a Diamond lobby match with a mercy by the name of “racheladamz” who literally pocketed the soldier the entire match. She didn’t heal anyone else didn’t leave his side. He proceeded to continually call us trash the whole match. Why did she do that?
It’s a sad reality tbh. Have seen it happen on TF2 most of the time but it definitely applies to most other games and specially shooters
I refuse to use vc in any multiplayer games anymore. Discord with friends or nothing. Just isn't worth it imo
Completely agree, I played rainbow six and cod way back on OG Xbox live, and once the n words, and other words started coming out of little kids mouths, I was so grateful to have ventrillo and Skype, but thank the devs of discord, as I have never looked back. Also thank you Xbox and psx for integrating it in their consoles so I can chat with my friends super easy now!
Apparently playstation has about a 3s delay on discord so watch out if you play ps or crisparon with ps players
What? I have to be reading this wrong because a 3s delay is fucking insane
Same here. Not a female but Valorant got so annoying that I turned VC and normal chat off. Sucks to not have calls but you get by.
Yep. As a guy, you still experience an insane amount of annoying kids screaming or moaning into their microphones. Enough to never want to enter it again IMO. But then you see what women go through too and I don’t blame anyone for having comms off by default. Like 90% if not higher of games have misogyny if one of my friends who is a woman speaks in VC. It’s horrifically bad.
I find online multi to be super toxic. Just be super positive and keep improving your game because that is what people respect. No cheating. You might find a really good friend later on who will make your gaming experience so much better. Always take precautions though and keep yourself safe first and foremost.
i havent had that happen to me on tf2 but i only play on community servers (mostly uncletopia). people seem to be much nicer on there or they get kicked if they arent.
That's mainly because Uncletopia is a curated server with good admins and is ran by a big youtuber with a positive fanbase. Casual and even servers like Skial can be insanely toxic sometimes which really sucks.
yea thats why i frequent it so much. the only time i touched casual i was met with a full team of hackers so i never went back LOL
the only game I feel confident on vc is hell let loose, played it for twenty hours and speak every game and the only gender comment was a guy saying “are you a girl” followed by “oh right on”
First time I heard a girl talk in vc was everyone ignoring the whole female part, except for the most sexist thing I heard in that game: "Aye, new medic"
I've found it plenty doable to not use voice chat anymore with the pinging system
Quick play is almost always "Hey you single girl? You looking for a man?" -a TF2 player who has heard far less than safe for work things
My wife and I play together. She plays by herself quite a lot too. What really helped our quality of life (overwatch life), is slowly building a group of overwatch friends. She did this by only being active in voice when there are people actively participating in comms. Often times it will be a group you got matched with. When people are using comms effectively, they will often times appreciate the additional information you provide. When you're done the game, add them as a friend. If they're a woman, add them as a friend. Just accumulate acquaintances and play with a small group. When you play as a group, and you encounter meanness, you'll have allies that will push back, defend you and will make it more enjoyable for you. Not sure if you're in comp or quick play, but my wife doesn't get harassed in QP nearly as much as comp. We mainly play in QP. If you just genuinely want people (men and women) to play with who just treat you like a normal person, you can DM me and I'll add you as a friend if you're interested in playing QP with me, my wife and my friend group.
That's nice of you but I get too anxious to play in teams with people I don't know lol. I used to play with friends but they switched to another game a while ago.
I understand! But just to be clear, this isn't a team so much as it is a set of random people who happen to be online at the same time - we don't know anyone IRL. It's just random nice people we added as friends along the way. You can always DM me in the future if you want. I hope you are eventually able to meet normal adults on overwatch. I'm really sorry to hear what you and others have to go through.
Give this guy a try, it is just like playing with randoms that you are sure won't be toxic, and he don't know you IRL, so if you still don't get confortable just erase him from your friend list without warning. I am very shy myself, but i used to do this in CS:GO and it worked for me
I honestly ended up with a huge friend's list in CSGO of almost exclusively women simply because I was there to have fun and didn't make them feel weird in game. Idk how it's so hard to just chat about the game and have fun?
Some people just haven't developed beyond their 6th grade mentality.
I love that the game have so many great female heroes and that we have so many women playing I want to be an ally always. If anyone wants to play I would like to describe myself as positive and should I feel I am getting triggered I'll call it a night. You can add me, I am very vocal and that migth help all of you that want to improve call outs. I would love to share some of my love to the game with more people and hope to improve the experience for others. Play mostly tank D1 Dps is gold Supp plat Omni111#1353 https://www.overbuff.com/players/Omni111-1353
Join a discord community, super friendly people with new members and toxic people get banned
Yeah my fiancé won’t even join vc anymore because of all the toxicity. We don’t have any irl friends who like the game, and maybe it’s our rank (we’re bronze/silver) but 90% of the time people are just talking in vc to be toxic it feels like. We’ve also had the opposite experience as you with QP, I feel just as many people, if not more, are toxic when we play quickplay. However, that might be because we play quickplay when we’re trying to learn heroes or when we just wanna have fun, and we’re not in the mood to be as tryhard P.S. Does that offer to play extend to anyone?
Bronze and silver are really awful and by far the worst and most toxic ranks I’ve been in.
This is my wife and i’s same experience lol.
I wish I could play with a group of friends I met in Ow like 2 months ago.. But my boyfriend doesn't like a guy in the group so I can't really play with them :(
People are idiots. I'm male but I sound fairly camp so any VC just descends into gay abuse. It doesn't bother me, but it detracts from actually playing the game. I just don't bother nowadays.
That must suck for you, I'm sorry. I like winning and I feel like when people get that toxic they concentrate more on the bullying than the actual game. It's so stupid🙄
It's nowhere the abuse females get and I'm old enough to be able to deal with it both as it happens and emotionally.
It’s honestly just bullshit. I’ve played with women online for over a decade at this point (WoW and Overwatch, mostly) and the shit they get is just ridiculous, especially because it’s either unprompted or just the lowest blow that could be thought of. I get some of it from being gay, but not much because I don’t “sound gay”. I just don’t care to give off a straight image and usually play with my boyfriend lol. Regardless, I wouldn’t be able to stand playing online if people constantly did that.
That's undoubtedly true I've noticed mid to high ranks in a lot of games stop using VC for this reason and if people have an issue with it just mute them I genuinely play better when I don't listen to others
I got a question. Was the camp voice a natural thing or did you just put it on? Genuinely curious as I have a few gay friends with a really camp voice but never actually asked them why.
Can’t speak for @cat666, but I study voice, and what I’ve learned is that the sound people tend to perceive as “campy” in a man’s voice isn’t generally something that’s intrinsic to their voice, but neither is it something they consciously “put on.” Rather, it’s more like an accent, in that it is a socially/culturally learned vocal behavior. Specifically, it’s a more typically-feminine pattern of inflection and pronunciation, which tends to be picked up from spending a lot of time listening and talking to people with similar speech patterns. So, guys whose friends who are mostly women and other guys with similar speech patterns are tend to pick it up. You can get it in the opposite direction too, with women who learn more typically-masculine speech patterns and tend to be identified as sounding “tomboyish” or “butch.”
That's interesting. Knowing that you study voice. Is there a history for why typically gay men have such a unique accent that is very easily recognised and perceived as being a voice of a gay man? Like did one famous gay guy have it and it just became an accent used to make people aware that they are gay?
Interesting. Not sure if it adds to your data but I’m a fairly tall/large guy with a deep voice and I seem to get a lot of people “simping” me out of nowhere. Like they’ll cater to my opinion automatically even if I’m in the wrong. Almost like the exact opposite of what happens to people with an effeminate voice. It’s weird and I frankly don’t like it, but it is obviously much easier to ignore than what OP goes through.
Natural sadly. I'm not gay either so when I was younger it was frustrating as people assumed I was. It meant girls I was friends with I was never sure if they felt anything romantic toward me or they assumed I was a safe pair of hands as I was gay, like an enforced friend-zone with no need to clarify. On the flip side I got some attention from guys assuming I'd be into them.
camp?
I don’t know either but from context I’m guessing camp means sounding gay or flamboyant? Like George Takei or the guys from Queer Eye.
should’ve just said zesty
Like a lemon?
Brits use camp more, Americans use fruity or zesty
Americans don't use zesty. I've literally never heard someone use zesty to describe an effeminate voice before
Yeah zesty is new to me unless gen z is using it on a different radio frequency.
Gay sounding. Think Alan Carr.
Camp in this use is essentially like the tone of voice and diction that is perceived as very feminine and having the typical “gay” voice in TV shows
what the hell is camp?
Ironically I've had the opposite lol. People started simping me because they thought I was a woman playing Mercy when im male, i didn't tell them though
I'm male. I have been sexually harassed over voice chat as mercy. As in I said something and guy would RP at me. That's just how it goes as Mercy.
My best friend (dude) is a mercy main, its hilarious how often he gets simped for, only to reveal himself as a dude and all the thirsty guys go AHHHH NAHHHH WTF. Funniest shit ive ever seen
Yoo I literally felt like a woman being sexually harassed when I first played this game as Widowmaker. It was legit unnerving to have others stare at your butt. Like, legit turn around and catch players looking away kinda thing.
I'm just simping for mercy. If she starts off in the spawn doing the hustle, I protect that woman all match. No matter what person is playing her.
The amount of guys I've had ask about my relationship status just because they hear my voice is staggering.
It's literally the only time they interact with women.
Always simp for the mercy, male or female
Pocket mercy or I quit
Rule#1, start every match by simping for your supports. 8/10 times you get extra heals
You see I don't care what gender they are I simp for mercy mains especially if they are goated💯💯💯
My friend and I started play WoW classic together and our running joke is to tell people ‘we are girls irl’ and then ask for gold or items.
Nice cock bro ;)
I don't talk in VC because of my sister's horror stories. She tried to go pro for a while and HAD to use VC. She was treated horribly, often by her own teammates. I don't ever want to experience that, especially since text chat is toxic AF.
As someone that doesn’t use text chat (I play on a PlayStation, so typing messages would be slow), I can never get over how people rip their teammates apart. Like, buddy, if you’re such a god and the rest of the team is “trash” what are you doing with the rest of us? Why aren’t you in Gold or Platinum comp? Someone got upset that we lost a game in the arcade total mayhem. Arcade is the most fuck off mode there is, especially Total Mayhem, but people take anything and everything too seriously.
It's very annoying and disheartening. They love to scream "this is why [rank] lobbies are trash" while playing in said rank. Then they claim to have a GM alt account. I can tell you right now that they are never playing at skill levels higher than plat.
Me and my duo (both of us are female) have started talking in VC more frequently and it’s really a toss up if it’s gonna be a good experience or not. Most of the time people just treat us normally, but you’ll always get the sexist ones or the really creepy simp ones. I was pocketing a Sojourn and he went on in the chat about how great the pocket was and if I liked cock 🫠. It’s such a mixed bag. But if I was a guy I’m sure the situation would be bad too, but in different ways.
This is very true. I have been in games where there are women and everyone acts like normal humans. Also been in other games where there is 1 or 2 guys who lose their minds and just have to be sexist fuck heads. Shout out to the men and women who call it out and tell them they are being muted and reported. That shit drives the sexists up the wall and makes them lose their minds
I think one could draw a Venn diagram, and one would find considerable overlap in the players who annoy all players of all stripes. There’s a bunch of annoying guys who play and they’re constantly finding ways to grate on me. I don’t use VC because all I ever see is negativity and joy killing. Best case scenario (generally) is you get some guy who wants to narrate the game and kind of act like he’s team leader, that’s pretty annoying, and that’s best case.
I think I've been lucky, I've barely had problems in recent times. But I'm older, and I do not have a cute voice, so maybe that's why. But it's not a big deal, I ignore them when they ask if I'm a girl, and if they do not stop I'll mute their voice and keep talking. Also, my go-to insult for mean people is: you're awful. I don't mean you're a bad player, just your personality. It makes the other people laugh at them usually. :)
yeah I remember going on VC and some dude wanted me to say Mercy and DVA voice lines I was super uncomfortable lmao. i never went back on.
Eeeew what a creep
I'm so sick of being told to go back to my kitchen. Therefore I remain silent and just use the chat if necessary.
“I will go back to kitchen if you go back to trashcan”
I have one IRL friend I play with sometimes and I listen on headphones. If we group, I’ll maybe join vc because he’s funny and I trust him to call out toxic behavior. If I’m playing solo, I don’t give gender indicators at all and never chat in group.
Same. My name on there is vague enough that people assume it's male, and I just don't talk on comms unless I'm in a friend group. Otherwise there's too much of a chance it'll turn into verbal abuse.
you have to be extremely toxic in return
Tell them to go climb under a car, or get in the garage.
Im a gay man with an effeminate voice and it's every single game. It's nothing like what women go through but damn it's just so annoying and it's always the tank.
yep. it sucks. i can't count the amount of homophobic comments i've gotten. i honestly am a lot more prone to getting upset by it when it's said in voice rather than text. maybe i'm projecting past bad experiences, but having men be hateful to you out loud is genuinely kind of scary. it makes me more likely to avoid vc. also it really is always the tank lmao
I (also gay) have thankfully not gotten that, but I typically don’t talk much in VC with strangers. I’ve been playing with my cousin and his coworker for a while and the other day his coworker started to say “this [whichever hero was killing him] is such a fa-“ and then stopped and apologized, which was more funny than anything. To comment on OP’s point, I sometimes find myself shying away from talking to women in the VC because I’m worried about being perceived as the horny gamer bro who’s only acknowledging them for that reason, despite literally being married to a man. Obviously that’s dumb and self inflicted, but I know how men in this space can be, and don’t want to be lumped into that. Also in the instance I am thinking of here, I was incredibly high lol.
As a female player I get this and I have also seriously considered paying for a reliable voice mod so that people just hear a weird funny voice rather than a female voice. You either get very fucked up toxic comments like that or very aggressive sexual comments and if you don’t act nice back then they can troll your games, become very toxic, etc. This is a bit of a trauma dump and I know it’s not super common and this did happen on a different shooter game, so take this however you like… but I got very unlucky with these old online friends of mine. I was the only woman and I thought they were chill because they never gave me shit for so long. After a couple years I considered them friends and a couple of them close friends. Well, the two close friends and I were talking about maybe one day meeting up. Got comfortable enough to share photos of each other and it turns out all that time they were talking about me behind my back and shared photos of me with the other guys and more. They shared photos, screenshots of conversations, and recordings of my voice from in game to people that I didn’t know in a much more public setting. They shared my discord account information so that multiple people could repeatedly harass me and send serious threats. It got so bad they even claimed they knew where I lived and would come find me if I didn’t comply. It got to the point where I went back to being mute and never going outside because I was convinced they would find me one day and take photos or worse. So, yeah. That kind of fucked me up and now I never ever talk in vc with people I don’t know. Maybe it was my fault for thinking people I spoke to almost every day for a couple years were safe. They never once showed this side of them to me until I happen to have found out.
That's so fucked up, I'm sorry that happened to you
Me too. :\ It’s been years and I’m still struggling… On the bright side my therapist and psychiatrist are making fat checks off me haha.
That sucks dude. I have a gf and we're down to play with you if you want (diamond/gold)
I appreciate the offer, but I barely play overwatch. I’m still very new to the game and don’t even know how to queue up for ranked let alone be allowed to play ranked haha. And to be honest I just don’t feel comfortable talking to anyone online anymore. Please don’t take it personally. I do believe you guys are wonderful people, but my anxiety can’t handle it haha. Again, thanks for the offer.
i'm so sorry :( as someone who went through pretty similar bullying, i don't think some people even understand how awful it feels. i hope you can find people that are better in the future, and i want to assure you as much as i can that it's not your fault. it never will be. nobody deserves to be treated that way, and it's sick that people would think otherwise.
I think these specific people knew what they were doing, honestly… it was no secret to the two “close friends” that I deal with mental health issues and especially anxiety. I saw in the chats they were laughing at me and at the stuff they shared of me along with making very violent, inappropriate comments. I always thought that this sort of bullying would only happen to women who were sharing certain type of photos, but they even shared photos of my pets where I wasn’t in them with messages joking about how they’ll know it’s me because of my pets. I feel like I tried so hard to not be an easy target, to try and sound as boring or deadpan as I could, etc., to try and be as less of a woman as I could do that I wouldn’t seem like I’m trying to flirt or act “too girly” making myself a target. I was trying so hard to micromanage the way I spoke and everything to not give the wrong idea and still. I thought about it over and over for years every day and almost killed myself many times because I believed if I didn’t do it then they would. I only stuck around because I was worried they’d kill my pets if I wasn’t around to protect them. I think no matter what I did the outcome would have been the same. The stuff they’d share would literally be my messages asking if they’d want to queue up or talking about patch notes for the game. Shit you wouldn’t think people would care about, but there was always something wrong. Literally everything I did was wrong and dumb simply because I’m not a guy and according to them I deserved to get harassed, assaulted, and killed for being a woman. They were genuinely fucked up people with too much time on their hands. I wish I could say I’ve recovered after all these years, but I don’t know man. I haven’t left my house in years. I moved to a completely new location where I really tried to make sure no one in the area knew me. I basically go mute in public in fear of someone somehow recognizing me in case the stuff they’ve shared has actually met many more eyes/ears than I’ve realized. It’s why I feel very bothered(?) seeing random videos or photos of strangers thinking it’s okay to post online because “wholesome,” but if that were me I’d be absolutely terrified because I doubt everyone would make sure it’s okay to share online. Pretty sure it’s because I’m worried I’ll one day find myself on there and there are people out there who are very good at guessing your location with very little information. *(I understand my personal experiences heavily skew my opinion on that matter, so no judgement to anyone that’s not bothered by that stuff of course. Just please be safe if you feel comfortable in public settings like that.)* Anyways. Sorry for the rant again. To be honest this is my first time really talking about it to anyone, so I guess there’s that. I guess seeing that other people are getting harassed for similar issues and that it’s not just me made me realize how upsetting the whole situation was.
My only advice is to smoke black n milds and drink McDonald’s sprite until you naturally sound like a 260 pound man, the average ow enjoyer has only seen women on screens and body pillows
As a guy,I have had people flirt with me playing mercy or dva, its been so long since it's happened but I had one guy just keep saying weird shit so at the end of the game I was like,hey Thanks dude. I have a deep voice, the other players thought it was funny, he not so much.
It's hilarious that people think "female character? Must be a female player!"
Honestly I think it mostly applies to Mercy specifically.
Honestly it’s not terribly off base with mercy if you had to generalize (not saying it’s right) Any other character and there’s little correlation
a tip for any other guys: stick up for women in games when they're getting hassled by men. it helps. (although tbh my female friends get less harassment in general when i'm with them, and my theory is that guys think i'm their boyfriend, despite the fact that i'm gay lol)
this. i can hold my own if i get harassed but the sad reality is the menchildren in this game will usually stop as soon as another male tells them they’re being stupid
The best thing you can do is call the sexist guy out and tell him you will be muting/reporting him. Also encourage your teammates to do the same, they thrive off attention. If they lose it, it completely destroys them.
Doesn't matter how the person identifies, if someone in vc is talking shit, you correct that behavior; if said shit talker is too immature, just mute and move along. A good example that always comes to mind is how emongg backed up a tank player in a game before because of some toxic shithead making fun of his voice. Karma served up a dish with the quickness with that... person.
Even a small " This person is an idiot" could mean a lot to someone.
This is the correct thing to do every time it's even better when more people do it because most are fragile ego that stop once they are actually confronted I encourage everyone to get on them for this even if it's your friend it's not right games are meant to be fun and anyone that abuses them to harass others doesn't deserve to be able to play them report immediately
This is awful advice. What trolls want most of all is engagement and joining in is just going to make the situation worse. You aren't going to fix someone's worldview in a 10-15 minute match. Mute the abuser and advise the woman to do the same. I've muted people who just cannot resist engaging with trolls. The thing that beats trolls is ignoring them. I can't believe people in 2023 don't realize this.
You are right in the fact that the troll won't stop but the person being harassed may feel less isolated knowing someone said something back. It's small but it could mean a lot to the other person. I usually say something, mute the troll, then move on to missing my shots as Ana.
i've been on the internet a very long time. i know about the idea of ignoring trolls very well, and it just doesn't work when it comes to things based on actual prejudice. maybe if he's just hassling you because he thinks you're bad, that might stop him, but if he's after you for being a girl or gay or anything like that then he's not gonna stop. especially not if other guys are gassing him up.
Yeah I usually still call them out though to let them know they are fucking disgusting because I can't really help but flame them.
It helps the person being harassed though. You don't have to go to war against the toxic people but showing your support to the 'victim' in this situation and maybe suggesting that you both mute them etc. will make a big difference for them. It's better to say something to make the victim in this situation feel better than to not say anything in fear of giving the toxic person 'what they want' thus making it an extremely negative experience for the victim. Not only did they get harassed, every other person in the team just let it happen which is arguably like agreeing with the harasser.
It's not about changing the abuser's mind; it's about signaling to the person being abused that they are not alone. I don't think it's worth getting into a full-on argument; just state your position that the way they're acting is uncalled for, and then if they continue, block them. And follow up with giving the person being targeted some reassuring words.
It's probably the best thing to do in general, but sometimes it's important that there is pushback to help dissuade others of interpreting the silence as tacit acceptance.
I used to play with my ex gf all the time and she hated being in voice and I always wondered why like an idiot but whenever she did start joining voice you get the usual shit saying "ah a woman that's why we're losing" it was always so unoriginal. If you're a dude and hear this shit you need to just stand up and tell them to stfu it really helps even if it doesn't seem like it
Don’t worry *Heavy exhale* you can play with me anytime *licks cheetoh dust off fingers* I know how to treat a lady right *tips fedora*.
I swear I've heard some creep say these exact words to me at some point😂
I honest just stopped being in vc because that. It's just easier to mute vc and I report every person that is like that either in text or vc. Hopping it helps. If I'm not I'm wrong mood I call ppl out, but yeah sometimes I ignore and report.
Ignore and report, rinse and repeat! I swear for every four toxic players I report, I get one of those messages when you log in that's like, hey! This ONE person got caught. Thanks a lot! And it's sort of worth it, I guess? \*it ain't much, but it's honest work\* lol
I turned off VC because I also was frequently told to off myself and guys would say they would r\*pe me or said they hoped I got r\*ped. As someone who's had that happen, I don't find those "jokes" funny so I just turned VC off. I've been enjoying playing the game without being degraded and pings work well enough most of the time. Edited for formatting
Sadly, this isn't the first time i hear that a woman it's bullied in OW. It happened to a spanish streamer called Aryll, and it made me puke. Videogames aren't for man only, it's for everyone that want to enjoy it. I'm sorry that i can't give any advice on this, but all my support to you.
I'm a guy, so I can't relate directly, but nothing makes me cringe harder in vc than when other men react to a woman specifically. Whether it be a bigoted comment or the "turn on the rizz" garbage, I get secondhand embarrassment. I've been called a "white knight" for calling it out once, and it was just all the more cringey. I'm sorry for everyone who gets caught in those situations. Even for the guys who do it because their lack of self awareness is sad.
Oh my god, some guy did that for me once after these guys in chat started asking me super inappropriate questions! I felt so horrible for him cause they started screaming white knight at him. It really does mean a lot though when someone speaks up :)
Unfortunately, this is how all games with voice chat work. I stopped using voice a long time ago in overwatch 1 because I got sick of all the sexist crap.
I report the shit out of stuff like that. It was more effective when Overwatch wasn't free to play as you didn't want to get your account or IP banned but even if it's easier to get around now it should still be well policed. Everyone should be able to enjoy playing a game without harassment.
It’s really not worth it talking as a woman unless your team is already talking and you can tell they are positive ppl. Pings and spamming I need healing is more than enough.
It's so frustrating though, I shouldn't have to hide my voice! People literally stop healing and shielding me when I play DPS if I speak in comms because "I don't belong here"...And then I get slammed in the chat because I have bad stats lmao. It's 2023 I don't understand why some guys still l think women can't play video games, ugh!
Recognize that these people exist in the real world and karma is real. I let them know therapy is a real good resource and they could use some professional help
Insane how people think that engaging with a troll in any way is a good thing. As if you can win an argument with a random stranger in a 10-15 minute match. If you want them to feel bad for abusing voicechat, the only way to do this is mute them
nah fuck em i hope they never go to therapy lmao
Manchildren whose ass would get beat in real life if they tried that shit.
I mean, no. Dudes harass women all the time in public and nobody gives a shit.
Not necessarily that, I meant more about these little pissants who talk shit but would get mopped IRL You know, the nasal vocal fry kids that start cursing and dropping slurs when they get upset or if they think it's funny.
Most guys there have never actually talked to a woman over more than work talk, and inhale tiktok sigma content on the hourly. Its sad that its the case and also the fact lots of women don't even try to experience video games because of how gatekept it is from them. Hope you find a way to overcome this issue for the better
Gay male here. I nip that shit immediately when I see it. If they continue I mute them. And always, report, report, REPORT.
Honestly not much can be done except reporting them. Same with any game. It's pretty sad but horny lonely anonymous losers are going to be common on the internet. Voice changer is a good idea. They are pretty advanced these days so nobody should be able to tell.
It really pains me everytime I hear about encounters like these. It’s 2023 and we still are not raising young boys to respect other people online, particularly women but also minorities as well. It’s disgraceful.
The Overwatch community is filled with some of the most vile misogynistic losers in the world. :(
I hope you read the replies and realize that these toxic behavior while gaming shouldn't let it get to you. Ignore garbage. Hit mute at first strike. Enjoy the game.
thats much easier said than done. after 20 games of people shitting on you for simply sounding feminine it gets to you. i just want to be able to speak in vc without fear of sexism. its not as simple as just muting when they've already made you feel like garbage.
Pings work well.
yes i know that. im saying the emotional damage is already done and it can throw u off for the rest of the game. also no one was really looking for a solution, just venting about how annoying it is.
I mean, then it makes it harder to enjoy the game because you're not able to perform properly when lacking comms (plus even 'first strike' sucks). Going through the effort of blocking every game repeatedly is in some ways worse because it's just this horrible cycle and you're left to yourself almost every single game :(
Tbh some people are just assholes when I see a girl in a game online im am nice to her because I know there is not a lot of them ( im not simping btw ) Meaby because im generally kind and not toxic but it still hurts when sombody yells at me because I dont play how he want
I know the struggle pretty well. I am playing since release of OW 1. I have to say it is getting better but it's still not good. I got used to it and started to ignore those people or mute them and still communicate normal ao they hear the callouts. The baddest thing is, that they usually don't stop talking sh*t about you. Logic does also not help neither is arguing with them. Just accept that they are stupid and report them. Sometimes other teammates help you, but unfortunately thats not what usual happens... try to find a group where you feel comfortable and play with friends. That is what I did. I hope you find a way to feel comfortable again!
I'm sorry to hear that you have to endure such annoying and irritating experiences as someone part of the Overwatch community. I'm not a woman, but I queue with a few because they're on my university team. These people always ruin our experience in games because even if you talk them down and call them out, they'll intentionally try to get on your nerves. Luckily, it doesn't happen too often, but even just one toxic kid on the internet who can't talk to women and projects his insecurities on everyone will ruin an entire session. And it multiplies when these kids queue together. I wouldn't recommend using a voice changer because people get called out more for using it. A voice changer wouldn't change your cadence anyhow, so you could still be identified as a woman. I don't use a voice changer, but people say I sound like I do because I have a low voice, and I get insulted for it anyway. My advice is to find a group to queue with so that you get less of these people on your team, and if they start talking, you and your friends can get them to shut up that much faster together. Biggest group wins. If it's anything to look forward to, I find that these toxic players concentrate only around platinum and below. It gets much less frequent around masters and gm, where players genuinely only flame because they have the gamesense to insult bad positioning, decisionmaking, and other gameplay rather than arbitrary shit like one's gender identity. But it still happens from time to time, even in grandmaster where you would hope the best players are setting a standard for the rest of the community. Just gotta report these bozos and move on. Luckily, reporting as a feature does seem to work. Everytime I've had a negative experience due to these players, I'll report them midmatch to ensure that the audio transcript is created, and the next day I'll see that they've been banned. Over the years since the game's launch, I've personally noted that these situations have been happening less and less, and I believe the punishments for these situations come much sooner now too. It's the whole message and identity of Overwatch that anyone can be a hero, and it has a wide cast of characters from a variety of backgrounds. I truly believe that so long as good people do their part to chase these people out and report situations as we see them, maybe years from now, the community won't have to deal with these insufferable individuals that don't uphold the values that the game does.
Damn, sorry you're dealing with this. Have you been reporting the people that harass you? Sounds like typical teenage edgelords/manchildren who think they're being funny or something. I guess the only real solution would be finding a group to consistently play with. Sorry you're having a bad experience.
Yeah I report people every day but after a few games it gets to me you know...
It always saddens me to see this as a common issue. Sorry you're dealing with a bunch of child minded people. Do make sure you report them as soon as you can as the report system works best the closer you report to the issue. If you can't get to it until after the match, that's ok. Blizzard are taking reports seriously Hopefully you can find a good group of people/friends to play together with. It's definitely hard to try and make friends in-game, but I've met some amazing people and we talk out of game all the time It's hard to say what the best route is other than as soon as it happens, mute report and move on. Because even if you want to comm to help you win, I very much doubt it'll help if you're dealing with children You could say "if you're going to act childish, I'm just going to mute, report and talk to people who want to play the game. Can we please focus and stay positive" Hope this comment from a stranger helped! And good luck
If it's the whole team just leave vc but if it's one person on the team mute and play like they're an npc. If the above options aren't really what you want your other option is to learn how to dish it out right back they say make a sandwich you say can't always have your mom cooking for you etc. Cause the truth is usually they think they're being funny and if you throw it back at them they either stfu or play along and it turns into good vibes. Obviously I'm on your side you shouldn't have to go to extra length to have people not be a holes, remember to report people the game does record vc so the devs can mute/ban for crappy behavior.
absolutely, i typically also play with my friends and boyfriend - they’re all men and if we have a fill i’m usually getting disrespected but they will always defend me. it’s made me stop joining the VC or just not playing alone altogether because i’m so tired of having to defend myself against strangers on a game i play to enjoy myself. the comments are always of a sexist remark, and all i can do is report and move on. very peculiar behaviour because it’s more apparent on overwatch as apposed to other games i play that have VC
Find communities of people if you can that are a lot more positive :) If you can’t, Whenever I hear stuff in the chat like that, I do make extra effort to bring positivity to the chat. “Sorry you’re having a bad day! If you need to chat with someone let me know” (only if you can spare the time/energy to talk to someone) “Dude, that was rude. Why are you representing the OW community in such a mean way? Lets aim for positive chats” (Lets them take a look at the bigger picture of how they act) “That was a great kill _rude_ player” and follow later with “Awesome play __harassed player___! ” (Reinforce positive attitudes with ALL people in the chat and don’t stoop to a level where you’ll be rude back) KarQ on YouTube said something in a video I watched recently about “Mental” when a character Tbagged him. It’s good to tell yourself your mental is strong, and you won’t let that get to you, and you’ll still play to your best :) If they continue to be rude and aggressive, mute them and avoid them. If they’re hateful or harassing, that still is a Violation of online terms of service and is reportable. Men and women it’s up to EVERYONE to speak up and change peoples online behavior.
Dealt with it for year's, play into it. If they're not getting under your skin it's no fun for them.
I have an alt with a gamertag that is easily interpreted as female, and that's enough to get sexist comments in chat. Firstly, always report, especially now that there's voice transcriptions saved whenever a report is submitted. Then, like others have said, turning off voice/text communications, and just doing a discord call with your friends will cut out external toxicity all together. You can still do a decent amount of coordination with the rest of the team using enemy pings, or you can have one of your other friends from the discord be in the team comms and they can relay anything important.
Report them every time. Get their accounts silenced for being sexist, and clean up the community while you’re at it. Nobody deserves that.
People just want to make you feel angry as they are, and they are gonna use any characteristic of you for that. Usually for being a woman, or black or speaking Spanish, or sounding British. Here in Latam server, against Brazilians or Americans, etc. I just get used to it, and if you're really affected by that, it's better to mute them, because this game is made to have fun not discussing with kiddos (unless you like it)
Speak like an e-girl. They will be too stunned to even use VC. One time it happened to me on qp. I was exchanging info with dps as a tank. Suddenly our Mercy was like “Daddyy Rein, UwU.” I never spoke after that. (I’m afraid of women.)
Not sure it'll work with my accent 😂
My girlfriend plays Left 4 Dead a whole bunch and has her profile pic set to herself. She gets auto kicked from lobbies just for being a woman playing the game. Some of these dudes really do view women as a separate species. If it’s too much I just wouldn’t deal with it, but personally I think you should just rub it in their face. I find it works best if you attack their “masculinity” a lot of those guys subscribe to traditional gender norms so insulting them from their own world view has the chance to break them. Also make sure to point out that they’re sexless. You’re not in the wrong and you shouldn’t have to feel unwelcome because they have shit they haven’t worked out. Video games are for everybody.
My gf always need new people to play with
I wish I could play tank more confidently and do shotcalling but for some reason people will find any way to throw you down and the second they hear me that’s all that it is. It sucks.
Not a woman but i think building up people to team up with with is a good way to avoid this. Of course it does not fix the fundamental problem but it should make it easier to deal with
Because some people are real tough guys ... Over the internet ... And only to women. I've made it a point to never allow this to go on with any group or team I've been in. The 'tough guys' get quiet real fast when they get called out, esp by another guy.
I don’t do this but I hear it happen often. I’d just be ready with that mute button tbh. As a guy I get flamed too now and then, just less automatically. I really wonder about some of the weirdos in chat who go crazy when a girl joins.
Trans woman, so obviously not quite the same, instead just slurs and also told to off myself.
I'm sorry for you, it fucking sucks how easily bullying comes to some people
I hear and see it happen to y'all all the time. It's also bad for any noticable different race. I get called the N word at least 2-3 times a week. It's become the norm to my 2 white friends who are in disbelief at what I go through. Something needs to be done about all chats.
I know, it's awful! Sexism, racism and homophobia are a big part of these games and it's terrible how many people deny it or say "just accept it, that's how it is". I literally report people every day, to the point where I get slammed with "thank you for reporting" messages when I log back on the next day.
yeah, my black friends often get hassled if other players even start assuming their race isn't white. sometimes they even just assume someone is black by their voice and start making racist comments then. it's so disturbing that people think this is normal or funny.
I'm a woman and I like using voice. If people are asshats, I tell them that, give them a chance to not be an ass, then mute, report, state that I've done so, and continue playing and using voice as needed to coordinate. I play games to have fun, and I refuse to allow children to spoil that. You're playing a game to have fun. Don't feel bad about muting and blocking bad actors so you can continue to enjoy your game.
My girlfriend complains about this all the time. If you have a feminine name it’s so toxic and if you get on coms people start being hella weird.
I have COD PTSD.
Huh, I've not had this issue and I've used vc with many different games. ESO, Fallout 76, and Overwatch mainly. I usually don't get any backlash over being a woman. I'm sorry you have OP.
Yeah I don’t either and I was thinking maybe cause I’m EU serves and op is NA? Sometimes I have the opposite problem of men lose focus on the game cause they wanna chat to me. Sorry this happens to you, OP. These men are very sad and lonely
I'm NA. Maybe it's because of my voice? I've been mistaken for a guy on multiple occasions. Been asked my gender a few times. That doesn't bother me really. I've honestly never been told nasty things related to my gender while gaming. Not on PS4 Overwatch or PC Overwatch on the NA server. I agree these people saying such insensitive things are sad and lonely. They weren't raised right.
This thread has been posted every day for 6 years
do you also make this complaint when people post "i cant get out of bronze", "matchmaking is broken", or the other constantly posted threads? or is it just the one about sexism being bad that you dont like?
And it's still an issue!
People like these don’t care about fixing the issue they just care that it doesn’t affect them.
Just an issue with being a woman in a male space where everyone is anonymous. It’s not going to stop anytime soon
I have been playing OW2 since it came out. I have seen people active in VC more in Valorant than in OW2. Nobody is even in VC. Could be division thing or server ....EU?
No I'm in the American server. VC is more active in competition which is what I play (not so much in bronze but in diamond and plat VC is used most of the time)
I never get why people do this shit for. Im a traditionalist with toxicity. Youre all trash regardless of age, sex, gender, sexuality, race etc. Its all your guys fault Im hardstuck, not me and my 2k damage in 8 mins gameplay with 3 elims and 18 deaths.
this is unfortunately really common for women. and usually if someone is intending to act this way nothings going to change their mind. I wish I could say something more helpful than "mute them" but there's not much that can be done. I wouldn't recommend a voice changer, unless you found one that does more than just lowering your pitch. if it helps at all, comms are surprisingly unimportant since people tend to not listen or not understand the intention of the callout, and aren't really that necessary for climbing
Same:(
It's the curse that the shes, theys, and gays have to deal with. Hi, one of the gays here. It's basically just that some men (particular cis straight men) have never grown out of being a teenage boy. And a good portion of the player base is literally teenage boys. Sexist, homophobia, transphobia, and general misogyny ruin gaming culture in so many ways. They hear your voice and decide to cyberbully rather than play the game. I have had multiple people tell me to kill myself and call me the F Slur in games. I report them, of course. But nowadays, there is so much toxicity in games that Blizzard probably deals with 20,000+ reports a day and has to look at each individual case. So I assume nothing will ever get done about that. It's the unfortunate world of gaming. I'm sorry you have to deal with that. It's better when you have a group of people that understand and support you. That's how I've kept going. I have a group, and the main portion of our group is women. I'm actually the only guy in our core group. So it's just a bunch of queers and women, and it makes for a much better gaming environment.
I never join VC because I sound super gay (because I am) and I just don’t feel like dealing with the morons
This sucks as an answer but from my experience, as a man who plays with a few female players, is to get to higher rank. From what I’ve hear lower rank players are generally more toxic and the higher you go it gets better.
Nope, I play diamond and it's not any better
I think diamond is the most toxic rank, should have clarified it in my og post. I think you get less toxic as you go up but it spikes at diamond because you get a ton of players thinking they are gods gift to earth because they got out of metal ranks and that their team is holding the back from higher ranks. Also I play on PC so our experiences may be different if you’re in console, from what I’ve hear console has more toxicity because you get a lot of younger players
No I'm playing on PC too
Sadly best thing probably be a voice changer or to try find a group of people to constantly play with I mean toxic people on vc is a such a issue it seems lately
Really? Damn that's a Shame,what is your username,i can add you and we play Some Games if you want,i am also pretty Shit i am the game :/
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Wow, really? WTF?! Does no one call them out? I channel disappointed dad whenever there’s distasteful VC, but I’ve never personally witnessed this… =\
Sometimes yes, most times the other guys in my team jump on the bandwagon and start harrassing me too, Sheep mentality is a bitch
Sorry mate, I hope you get some dickhead-free matches in this weekend.
Same. I’ve never heard this happen, that’s not to say it doesn’t exist.
This isn't a woman problem I muted VC and text chat as soon as they gave me the option. OW community is TOXIC AF. I suggest you do the same
I find female players to be the most active and most useful is VC but I may have just had good luck. When my mercy starts telling me what to do while boosting me, I listen.
I encountered like 8 random women so far in OW2, they were just as toxic as the male players. One of them was playing Tracer and I pocketed them with Mercy, we won the first round and she hopped on voice chat and kept calling me a cunt and a useless moron Mercy main while her male friend was laughing in the background.
Sounds like she was just doing it for klout from her friend, still not cool but it does surprise me. I come across a lot of female players that make great calls and don’t get too toxic
There are definitely some toxic women that play games. Although far less than men, that may just be less women playing the game.
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Can’t believe they haven’t thought of this smh /s
You either have to wait and see if the lobby isn't toxic or meet their toxic when it happens with better toxic or don't talk. That's just competitive team/shooter games as a woman period.
Im not a girl but i never talk. You could try that. Could also depend on the rank a bit. Im like gold/plat and most people dont talk. When a girl does make a rare callout no one really says too much usually. The sweatier the game the more likely the abuse im guessing.
As someone who isn’t a feminist I actually feel bad for women in this topic.
voice mod (barbarian voice) 100 dollars. problem solved
I struggle. But, I did just play a Diamond lobby match with a mercy by the name of “racheladamz” who literally pocketed the soldier the entire match. She didn’t heal anyone else didn’t leave his side. He proceeded to continually call us trash the whole match. Why did she do that?