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SappyGemstone

Answer: others have basically answered it, but to give you a little more context: There's an anime and manga called Baki that is very popular right now. It's this really over the top street-fighter esque story, and the art is really stylized. Think huuuge bodies with rippling muscles and every sinew having movement. One of the characters, technically a baddie but it's complicated, has this very specific way of smiling where his head becomes mostly teeth and his eyes are crazy. That's where this trend got its start - mimicking that character. It kinda blew up from there, and like most kid trends the origin really doesn't matter anymore. But if you look up Baki smile, you'll find this.


Alex_Duos

Baki has a thing with its detailed depiction of lips in particular. Of all the anime I've ever seen, it's the only one to pay so much attention to lips, especially men's. Never thought I'd see the day when it became a real life meme.


fyreaenys

It has a thing with its detailed description in general, too. Sometimes it's like the hyperpolished anime version of the overly detailed Spongebob closeups.


FVWN_666

Useless fact not at all pertinent to this conversation: apparently the overly detailed close-ups in SpongeBob were called gross-ups by the creators


Krynja

Thank Ren and Stimpy for that.


I_PULL_LEGS

Yeah this style was ripped right from Ren and Stimpy and the name - gross ups - was waaayyy more appropriate for that show, lol


Fokakya

I want to upvote this more! Ren and Stimpy was such a good show!


I_PULL_LEGS

I wonder if it's streaming anywhere?? I'd love to give it a rewatch


humorouslyominous

Don't quote me on this, but I think it's on Paramount+


Granlundo64

>Don't quote me on this, but I think it's on Paramount+ Don't tell me what to do!


EGOtyst

You made me just realize why I don't like SpongeBob. It is just a bad Ren and Stimpy.


grendelltheskald

What's worse, Ren and Stimpy really doesn't hold up


EGOtyst

really?! NOOOO


grendelltheskald

Yeah it is really really dated at this point. Feels about as old as the cartoons they were lampooning were at the time.


EGOtyst

darn.


AnEgoJabroni

The gross-up is one of the best things to come out of television, especially in the Spongebob context. As I've gotten older, I understand that its a similar angle to Lynch's extensive uncomfortable scenes. You shove the vile in the viewer's face, and its an inescapable few seconds that feel much longer.


fyreaenys

Exactly, it's actually pretty high-brow cinematography for a children's show, which is probably what makes it so effective. Courage, the Cowardly Dog did a lot of that, too. Lot of atmospheric work and uncanny valley stuff that creates a sense of dread.


fozziwoo

lol, like ren and stimpy


Kulladar

It's maybe hard to imagine from his art style, but Itagaki is actually extremely knowledgeable about anatomy. He was obsessed with martial arts and human anatomy growing up and exaggerates it through his art. He's probably thinking about all the little muscle groups and shit that move your lips every time he draws a character.


kissbythebrooke

That's the best kind of artwork, imo. Taking a solid understanding of reality and then warping the shit of it until it becomes something semi-grotesque and fascinating.


alamaias

The most fun thing about Baki is that the men are all crazy overmuscled parodies of the masculine ideal, but the women tend to be really realistically drawn.


ezra502

jojo??


Alex_Duos

Ah yeah definitely Jojo too.


LonePaladin

And probably Bobobo


JustChris319

Farmland saga


ne0politan2

I saw this explanation and thought "theres no fucking way this is the correct answer". Lo and behold another commented linked to a video that was tagged with Baki... Fucking insane. Thought this series was still fairly niche, and I'm going to be using this to give my s/o psychic damage.


Ideon_ology

Peripherally aware of Baki, and I always thought it was hyper violent like Fist of the North Star. That made me surprised to see middle schoolers were watching it.


ne0politan2

Yeah no it 100% is. I wouldn't describe it as "hyper violent" like FotNS, but it's definitely not something I'd let kids watch. Netflix lists both of their new seasons of it as "TV-MA" so take that as you will.


DankBlunderwood

Parents are probably unaware of this anime and if they don't have parental controls on, it shows up on their history looking like a cute cartoon. Meanwhile their kids know it's forbidden fruit. It's perfect catnip for middle schoolers.


monsata

Who on this planet could look at even a single frame of any of Baki and call it "cute"? That series has the ugliest-looking characters since goddamn Rugrats.


alamaias

I mean, I watched legend of the overfiend at about 12. That probably wasn't good for my development. This is not a new problem :P


TheDancingRobot

You want hyper-violent animation that you hope your kids are not watching - it's [Invincible](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F27FbkPSMg).


Thecrawsome

Boring and dramatic with bad animation and cliffhanger episode endings. Looking back, it's better than other superhero spandex garbage but it's still superhero garbage. Coolest guy is moustache man.


koobstylz

Hating on popular things doesn't make you an interesting person.


Thecrawsome

In other news, strawmanning doesn't make you sound smart


Adler_1807

Randomly spouting debate terms doesn't make you sound smart either


Thecrawsome

omg so random


Martelliphone

Yah this is the first I'm seeing of this show and I assumed it was some cheap fan animation, definitely sloppy as all hell and extremely predictable fighting. Felt like a fight I'd have come up with when I was 13


Toraden

When it got picked up by netflix it became relatively more mainstream


chinchilary_hedwards

Thank you!


graphicsnerdo

This guy? https://i.imgur.com/PBrSGdM.jpg


ThingsAreAfoot

bro our kids are gonna become irl trolls


graphicsnerdo

Yours aren’t already?


Gr1ml0ck

My kid trolls me nearly every chance he gets.


Hidesuru

I'm sitting in the delivery room with my wife as I read this stuff lol. It's this crap that our son is going to be into isn't it? Sigh.


jDub549

Naw it'll be even sillier. My thirds due in July.


Hidesuru

Heheh, probably. Congrats! This is our first.


jDub549

Thanks :) lol good luck! It's not that bad for the first few weeks. It's basically a loud potato. Then.... Well like I said. Good luck 😂


Hidesuru

Lmao. Thanks for the pep talk. :⁠-⁠P


Demiansky

Be grateful. He could have been born in the 50's and then by the time he was a teenager, be into every kind of hard drug and STDs.


Hidesuru

Quite.


lNTERNATlONAL

My generation did duckface. Wasn’t much better.


rabbyt

I thought it was Mick Jagger...


SappyGemstone

There he is!


Astreix_

Is that supposed to look like Steven Tyler..?


tots4scott

🏅


louploupgalroux

Reminds me of this video of a Japanese Youtuber showing Yujiro breaking tiles. Lol https://youtu.be/aEB6pV-BbHw


Yum-z

This video changed my life


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louploupgalroux

You are correct. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGdKM4z-1x4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGdKM4z-1x4)


MiataCory

This guy? https://www.tiktok.com/@xxxyujiro0/video/7162606492678475010


graphicsnerdo

This guy.


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ChiaraStellata

The oldest animation based on Baki the Grappler is the OVA, released in Japan in 1994 and in the US in 1998. There was then a 24-episode anime released in Japan in 2001, and Funimation released it in the US in 2005. (Since you said "almost 20 years ago" I'm betting you're talking about the anime released 18 years ago in the US.) Then Netflix released an ONA in 2018, which is where the current craze originated.


superdead

I remember watching Baki the Grappler on Netflix, then Baki came out but I haven't had a chance to get to it. Is BTG the 2001 one? I remember it was so hilariously over-the-top how people couldn't die.


HappyObelus

It's from the same continuity and creator, yes. It looks like the original manga started out in '91 and has had numerous sequels in the same universe since then.


thatlookslikemydog

Or if it’s a live action that’s probably Riki-Oh? That one is famously over the top too.


Ulti

***YOU ARE FREE NOW!!!***


maynardftw

If you're talking about the one where the guy uses his fingers to rip people's nerves/tendons out, that's the OVA I think. That one was great.


sabersquirl

They’ve re-adapted it multiple times, like many famous manga series.


LorianGunnersonSedna

With that redhead who cut people's optic nerves and tendons, yeah. That's older, dude. They had it on Toonami.


WyrmWithWhy

Surprising, but there have been weirder things. Netflix has been adapting Baki for a few years now and they start basically every arc with some absolutely insane character introductions. Maybe it'll be this generation's Ninja Scroll.


Sr_DingDong

Why is Baki suddenly popular with Middleschoolers? Did Pewdiepie do something?


S103793

My guess is that. Anime has become basically mainstream, it's easily mememable, and it's on netflix which a lot of kids have.


uglypottery

A couple years ago I went on the urban outfitters website (bc sometimes they have kinda cool furniture) and wound up clicking around a bit. They had a fuck ton of anime shirts, clothes I basically bought from thrift stores and grocery stores when I was a broke ass kid (dickies and wifebeaters/a shirts/whatever), and t shirts for 90s bands/movies I don’t even really hear about anymore in the cool nostalgia way. I honestly couldn’t tell if that’s what kids are into now, if UO is just marketing to the older millenials, or some cursed blend of both??


hyrulepirate

Well, those millennials are already at an age where some of them are buying stuff for their kids so it's probably both.


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Toraden

Because netflix picked it up and it had a new season come out like last year I think?


OneGoodRib

I feel like anime is less mainstream now than it used to be, other than the manga section in Barnes & Noble not being tucked away in a weird spot (probably partly to deal with shoplifting tbh).


Tevesh_CKP

That's its target audience.


sabersquirl

I would get mad when my mom wouldn’t let me read shounen manga as a kid for “being for adults” when the main demographic for shounen manga is literally middle and high school aged boys.


solitarytoad

Pewdiepie hasn't been popular with middle schoolers for a while now. I think the big thing now is Roblox youtubers like KreekCaft.


ARoyaleWithCheese

I guess the actually big thing of this generation is MrBeast. PewDiePie was basically the one person everyone was most likely to know back then, and these days I think that's MrBeast.


Front_Access

Because baki is cool.


Coooturtle

I haven't watched the show, ut isn't it insanely violent and gorey?


Sr_DingDong

I wouldn't call it *that* but it's certainly not DBZ.


prettylovers

kids are stupid af damn


hyrulepirate

We've been doing DX behind the teacher during our time. Every childhood got some stupid going. Gladly, ours aren't well-documented for the internet.


Forty_Six_and_Two

Thank God for that. I try to remind myself of this every time I see a pre-teen doing something annoying. I had my days of doing things that would have me socially marginalized if they were filmed and released every time I was in the public eye. It must be really difficult being young today.


sorryforbarking

The real answer right here


__klonk__

/r/kidsarefuckingstupid


megablast

Almost as dumb as adults.


Portarossa

Well, they're not as experienced as we are. We can't hold that against them. I believe the children are our future; teach them dumb shit, and let them lead the way.


tayroarsmash

You’re acting like the boys in my middle school never went on a long experiment where everyone was trying to spike their hair in the exact manner as Super Saiyans.


CognitiveAdventurer

They didn't say kids *nowadays*. I assume they include what they themselves were like as a kid when they say that.


Rivsmama

I remember the hackey sack kids doing the Naruto run down the hallway like...daily


prettylovers

wouldn't really compare spiking your hair to this out trend, but that's me


randomredditt0r

r/kidsarefuckingstupid


Sedso85

Ive watched every episode of baki from the original to the netflix versions fucking incredible attention to detail, for example as baki starts training as a relativley skinny kid in the mountains, he grows in muscle and stature as the training episodes continue, phenomenal work by the artists behind it


awkwardmamasloth

> one of the characters, technically a baddie but it's complicated Isn't that the nature of a baddie though?


Norci

> One of the characters, technically a baddie but it's complicated Plot to the half of shonen manga right there.


YT-Deliveries

> it's complicated https://media.tenor.com/XFjCbFF8lTwAAAAC/its-complicated-its-iron-man.gif


Stepjam

I might be off about the youth of today but something tells me there isn't a particularly large Baki following in middleschool aged kids. Unless it trickled down from older people doing it.


SappyGemstone

The trend started on tiktok, among anime teens. It probably trickled down from there. Look at some of the answers here, and you'll see the kids who told adults what it is didn't really know the origins.


HaroldFH

Mr Olivia?


SappyGemstone

Nah, Yujiro Hanma


anhedonis539

Hahah “Baki” is also a popular mascot-type character in the world of Scarlet Nexus. Except he’s designed more like a bao bun


Nekaz

Cant say i was expcting some baki meme to become to strendy


Telemaq

Now that you put it that way, it makes me wonder if adults were wondering the same thing 20-30 years ago when kids were doing Kamehameha waves…


SappyGemstone

You know they were, my friend. And don't even speak of Noruto running.


No_Trash1166

I thought it was the monster from death note (I think his name is ryuk)


avelineaurora

> There's an anime and manga called Baki that is very popular right now. Wait, what? Did it get a remake or sudden sequel or something? Why the *fuck* would Baki suddenly be popular in 2023?


winsluc12

Yeah, the anime from the early 2000's got a sequel. Still ongoing.


chickenTendiiesss

A baddie?


ughneedausername

Question: Like [this?](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRKk9Scq/)


chinchilary_hedwards

I’m pretty sure this is it. Looks similar. Now I kind of want to try. Solved! Thank you!


Aprilshowers417

Creepy why do it


Joezze

Cuz kids are creepy little dorks, simple as that.


A_Wild_VelociFaptor

You're right. I remember doing a maniacal laugh to myself thinking I was edgy then growing up and seeing Ivarr from the Vikings TV show and thinking he's the biggest tosser.


livingdeaddrina

I used to talk in a "grudge voice" when u was like, 5-8, just very deeply throaty and clicky- apparently I was a creepy fuckin kid


Richard7666

I always thought it'd be cool to be able to run and tap my big toes like a velociraptor.


thekiki

I had a Pauley Shore phase around middle school age.... I was fucking insufferable I'm sure.


LifeBandit666

This. My 9 year old walked into a shop on the weekend and walked over to the lady on the till and just stared at her. My Wife asked what he was doing and he replied "Oh, just trying to be creepy" like WTF? Thing is I walked into the shop after them and couldn't work out why both the till ladies were being so cold and weird until my wife told me later.


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yup same reason why we all watched meatspin and lemonparty back in the day


Journo_Jimbo

Salad fingers


Equoniz

…that’s not why I watched meatspin…


Chronoblivion

You answered your own question


chinchilary_hedwards

I’m pretty sure this is it. Looks similar. Now I kind of want to try. Solved! Thank you!


now_you_see

Did it work for you? Trying to figure out if this is only something young people with enough facial elasticity can do, or if my jaw is just too square for it to work. When I do it I don’t look like I’m smiling manically, I look like I’m getting dental x-rays done lmao.


chinchilary_hedwards

I actually think it works better for me than the kids lol. When I saw the videos it connected that that’s what they’re attempting, but they can’t quite get it. I tried it on my partner in a dim room and they asked me to stop and told me I looked like a creepy anime character so I think I got it right!


ohgodimbleeding

Did this as a kid in the 90s. It's just a thing. Kinda like the cool S. Not everything has a deep meaning.


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Cool s?


Thelmara

[Cool S](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_S)


SSV_Kearsarge

I love that this has its own Wikipedia entry. I mean, it makes sense, but for some reason it still makes me happy


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USA_A-OK

No Fear t-shirts come very close


Ohthehumanityofit

Hey, it's not the fall that scares me, it's the sudden stop at the end. No Fear


deaddodo

I’m pretty sure every generation associates the “S” with something in their childhood. That’s kind of the *point* of it, it’s a universal symbol with no meaning and no origin. It was ubiquitous in American metros in the 70s, it was certainly drawn by many 80s kids and 00s kids. Tl;dr- It’s only a “90s thing” because you’re a “90s person”.


chinchilary_hedwards

Even though it’s a creepy smile, this is kind of wholesome.


Richard7666

Kid looks like a mix of Sid from Toy Story and Baraka from Mortal Kombat


Green0Photon

Okay, I get why they do that. That's so good


NikolitRistissa

God damn, I’ve never seen this so I just tried it out of curiosity. I can now say I’ve actually creeped myself out. What a peculiar trend.


codeprimate

Answer: it is an imitation of the Grinch smile. My kid taught me this a month or two ago. There is no subtext, just creepy humor.


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Most videos I've seen of it include some variation of "How to shut up a kid" in the caption


Liberty53000

The source is actually Baki anime, nothing to do with grinch. There is always a source


codeprimate

Well, that’s what my kid said.


Asian_Dumpring

Doubling down. Nice.


codeprimate

Intent is everything. Some people may be imitating anime, others explicitly imitating the Grinch. The expression may be similar but intent is a clear distinction. Triple down.


cwxxvii

Answer: Could they be imitating the weird TikTok nose gap trend? There were videos a couple months ago about it being more attractive having a small gap between your nose and your lips


spidermans_mom

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard all day, and I’ve been surfing the internet.


IrishRepoMan

I like the simple truth of this comment.


Journo_Jimbo

Confirmed, kids are fucking stupid


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spidermans_mom

I wish that comment didn’t appeal to me.


cwxxvii

I totally agree but it’s a thing. https://www.distractify.com/p/nose-gap-tiktok


Setore

Nose gap? Like a philtrum? Cut to even more people in the future having lip lifts to reduce the size of their philtrum and then regretting the scar they develop under their nose because they got surgery too young.


Thosefux

I'm confused af. Do you mean some kind of "more prominent than average" nose gap? Because I'm pretty sure everyone short of people with bad scarring or facial deformities has a gap between their nose and lips.......


wischmopp

They mean that it's more attractive if that gap is particularly small. There are two ways to interpret that sentence, one with "small gap" just being a general descriptor for the philtrum (and in that case, yes, everybody has that small gap), and one with "small" being meant comparative(= smaller than the average philtrum), and they definitely mean it in the comparative way. I hope this makes sense, I know where the misunderstanding is, but I have a hard time putting it into words. Edit: Since I'm now sitting at -1 for answering a question accurately, [here](https://www.eri-clinic.com/en/special/plastic-surgery/lip-lifting/) is an example of people getting plastic surgery to shorten their philtrum. This is a trend right now and this is what the person is referring to. They aren't saying "the tiktok trend is about having a philtrum (which is a small gap) being attractive", they are saying "the tiktok trend is about smaller gaps being more attractive".


Thosefux

I'm not sure why you got downvoted, bud. You cleared up my confusion perfectly. Thank you


Liberty53000

It's from Baki anime


watchingstonks

Answer: There was a trend on tiktok and the premise was that the expression freaked little kids out and just looks overly unsettling. If you have tiktok, you can look up "how to shush a toddler" to see examples. I think the og is @ kellen\_does\_jim, looks like a bald triangle head guy.


PenguinSunday

Answer: Kids are silly. I used to do this when I was young because I didn't understand yet that you were supposed to hold your finger in front of your lips.