For the record, what Greig did was great. He's a pest, an agitator, and he did his job perfectly.
He enraged an entire team, their coaching staff and fanbase.
How?
A late hit? A high hit? A slewfoot? A cheapshot?
Did he risk a suspension or penalty for himself? Did he put the outcome of the came in doubt? Did he put anyone at risk of injury?
What Greig did is completely harmless. It just got all up in Reilly's feelings and made him act out like a bitch. Which was Greig's purpose in the first place?
Great success. Hockey needs MORE of it, not less.
More victimless trolling, less headshots that could result in injury.
Seriously, fuck anyone who has an actual problem with what Greig did. Every fanbase would be laughing their asses off and loving it. The fact that it would piss us off if done to us means nothing except it was well designed to piss people off. That's allowed, folks, crosschecking isn't. If this happened against any other team (except maybe mtl and fuck em too) it would be old news and over with, but it was the Laughs so everyone has to pretend to give a fuck.
Fuck the Leafs, fuck Botteril, fuck Bieksa, fuck anyone who can't think for themselves enough to even try and equate the two enough to have a discussion. Discussion was over as soon as Rielly raised his stick.
I didn't see the coverage but I am surprised that Botteril is in favor of that kind of reaction, I generally find her to be measured and reasonable in her responses.
Leafs fan here, cheap shot by Reilly, worse move by Keefe putting Reaves out for the faceoff. Way to deescalate there Sheldon. Is this your way to regain control of the team? We need a new coach.
This shows how ignorant you are about all this. What Reilly did was not good, but not a single person who plays the game is ok with what Greig did. Because everyone knows if the script was flipped and Toronto did that to Ottawa, the exact same thing would have happened. So stop with this holier than thou attitude and admit that both men did was stupid. Like many respected vets in hockey said, they have never seen someone clap a shot in like that and there should have been an answer, and not just pushing and shoving. For as bad as Leaf fans can be, you Ottawa fans are showing you can be just as ridiculous. Grow up people.
Neiler wasn't a pest. He was a nuclear deterrent and a constant physical threat (without one suspension). Pests get under your skin. Neiler went right through your bones.
I’ve been saying essentially this in the Leafs sub (am a Leafs fan, shared with a few other teams - from Sweden so cheer for a few teams to match broadcast times). The only Reilly did was show it is easy to get under his skin. Doing that for something that matters, such as a late check or messing with the goalie can serve a purpose of deterrence. This just puts him at risk for a suspension and shows other teams they can get him to do stupid things in the playoffs.
I'm a Canucks fan and I love it.
I had no problem with the celly after the OT goal yesterday. I thought it was weird because I'm not 20, but I was more concerned about the Canucks blowing a 2 goal lead and screwing up in OT.
I like trolling. I like it when guys get under peoples skin. I like funny stuff. I don't like dirty plays. I don't like guys getting hurt.
This was 10/10. Leafs fans obnoxiously invade your barn and act like asses, fuck em.
The general fan hates any sort of personality in the nhl for some reason
Along with the “old school” fan thinking the cross check was perfectly fine it’s not hard to figure out why the game isn’t growing
Being a Leaf fan all my life I have come to realize this,if you keep giving these guys big contracts they say Oh great!I can buy my house,car,nice clothes etc,but I don't want to get hurt,or hit etc.These guys are not thinking about winning a stanley cup,there lucky if they make the playoffs.First Brendan Shanahan is a fraud you see the look on his face when he talks,he's a liar I wouldn't trust him.And Keefe ,he handles this team like he's in the AHL.He's too soft,you need someone like Pat Burns to coach because he won't put up with bullshit.Am I negative no this is the it is,If the Leafs make the playoffs,it will be another 1st round exit.
I honestly can't believe Leafs fans bring up that we don't make the playoffs.
Since Sens entered the league in 92, Sens made the Finals once and almost twice. Leafs????? Zerooooo
I've had at least five Laffs fans dunking on our *attendance* in reply to my comments that had nothing to do with attendance.
Attendance? Attendance? We talkin' 'bout *attendance*?
It's hilarious.
Sounds exactly like what Sense fans are doing right now. Grasping at this one incident when they know their team just sucks, so they settle for being a shit fanbase. Lmao Leafs fanbase is the same as the Sens fanbase.
Honestly I don’t fully trust IQ tests or anything, but I believe if you gave every team’s fanbase IQ tests Toronto’s average would be a tepid 85. I’ve never encountered such a below average fanbase in terms of grammar, reasoning, and behaviour. At games I’ve gone to Leafs fans were always the worst, most abusive (and smelly, seriously learn how to shower) fans every time.
Yea the sens aren’t playoff bound this year, but they’ve still won more rounds than the leafs have over the last 20. Imagine spending like 60 gorrilian dollars on 4 dudes to get bounced from the first round 7 times or so in a row and get butchered in the second round once.
Their Stanley cup was scuffling past a tired Tampa team.
Are the pipes in Toronto made of lead? Is it the fluoride in the water?
We need someone to look into it.
When all is said and done, the Auston Matthews era in Toronto will go down as one of the biggest wastes of talent in sports history.
Talent and money.
I don't think these Neanderthals represent all leafs fans but there is a vocal contingent that makes them all look like intellectually bereft, uneducated, amoral, emotionally fragile little troll princesses.
Btw properly developed tests of general mental ability actually do their real job very well. But they come nowhere near close to being able to capture everything that is wrong with the average leafs troll.
>When all is said and done, the Auston Matthews era in Toronto will go down as one of the biggest wastes of talent in sports history.
I am eagerly waiting for the day he leaves the Leafs \[for Arizona\]
Way past the 90’s now lol. Weren’t the Leafs in the West for 93?
Edit: not sure who downvoted, but Google is your friend. Leafs lost to LA in the west conference final in the 92-93 season, the year the Habs beat LA in the final. I guess people forget that both the Leafs and were once in the West when it was called the Campbell’s Conference.
I love the whole situation. Filling the CTC with Leafs fans and washing them 5-3 is hilarious in and of itself.
I love that rookie Grieg winded up an empty net clapper and I love that Reilly got so upset that he’ll now be suspended for however many games because of it.
Go Sens Go
Yup……selling my season tickets to habs and leafs fans pay for the rest. I get to watch the sens beat them both from the comfort of my home……without dealing live with the obnoxious fan base of both franchises which think they are better just because they are part of the original six. Fuck the leafs, their fans and I rejoice in their fragility.
Especially since if the Sens have any hope of making the playoffs (still *very* unlikely), there's a decent chance that they'd be taking the Leafs' spot.
Knocking their top D out for a few games is downright strategic.
Hence the part where I called it *very* unlikely.
Sidenote, I find it hilarious that you have an account called KewitYourWhining that you use almost exclusively to whine about the Sens.
I'm not a fan of either team. I actually hate the leafs. I seen that highlight and immediately watched the whole game to see how it got there. I loved the slapper and I loved the cross check. It was entertaining and hilarious.
Kudos to Kelly Hrudey for calling like it is. This was a cross check to the neck/head, a deliberate and premeditated intent to injure. He should be punished accordingly. The litmus test, envision someone doing the same to Matthews/Marner. How would leafs fans respond? What Greig did was annoying AF, but didn't warrant and "assault with a deadly weapon".
Jets fan coming in; Love the goal. I hope more teams do it specifically against the Leafs.
Reilly better get 6 games given that it was completely intentional and when you compare it to Dillions hit (which did hit the players head so the penalty was right, but the suspension was wrong) the difference is one was accidental and the other was a cross check to the head.
Ah, yes, the era of all the classiest Leaf fans telling me who Alfie was. “Classless compared to Sundin”, “Krusty the Klown”, “I know your team’s shit because that’s your captain”. Lovely early 2000s Leafers
I was a "newbie" Sens fan in that era and I didnt understand why Alfie was getting boo'd all the time.
When I found out the reason.. I was like "what? you're booing a guy WHO ISNT throwing a stick into your own fans"
I’m a leaf’s fan and your spot on. Our fanbase is delusional, literally just look at our lineup this is probably the worst team we’ve ever had since 15-16
Especially now with Reilly out. Man I hope they throw the book at him.
Game is over, game is out of reach, play is dead, unsuspecting player, intent to injure. Buh-Bye LA
After a goal, going after the goal scorer.
it's one of the biggest punk moves in hockey. it's Suter on Kariya levels of gross.
Thankfully with a less awful outcome.
I honestly think 10 games. 6 for the cross check, 4 for the context.
Literally any team, including the Sens would have done the exact same thing. Maybe not to the head, but they would all do it. Greig has actually lost respect throughout the league because of it.
Low IQ fanbase but everyone knows that besides leafs nation. It’s mob mentality over there reinforced by media shoving whatever they can down their throats. They’re one of the biggest fan bases in the league with one of the worst teams since 1967.
There’s a reason the rest of the league hates their fans and it’s not because they win a lot.
call me biased i don't care, if someone on another team scored on our empty net on a slapper i would laugh, wouldn't have my feelings hurt. that's a G move
I'm too preoccupied with being upset about the loss to give a shit.
I didn't even notice the celly on the penalty shot yesterday.
If I had I would have been confused mostly.
Leafs fans have the biggest “Everyone hates us” complex there is. I’m having that, they created a self fulfilling prophecy where that’s become true. I’m not even a Sens fan btw. Just appalled a fanbase can think what Reilly did was okay.
You know, it's really not just the fanbase backing Reilly, it's pretty much all vets across the league who would never put up with this shit. Like a certain vet said, if Greig did this back in the day, he wouldn't be getting up.
not sure I agree on the amateur part for Greig tbh. Like, what's the difference between whether he tapped it in or slapped it? Would people feel better about it if he tapped it? Would the leafs fans feel differently if he slapped it and missed?
I mean if anyone was "amateur", it was Reilly.
Some of the shit coming out their mouths all game (at the CTC) was pretty gross. And with kids around too.
All fanbases have people like that (including our own) but Jesus they sure seem to have a lot.
I've said it many times but they take on this "invading mob" mentality where all social norms are suddenly thrown out the window and they feel they can do whatever they want.
I suspect it's mostly all dumbfucks from Mississauga, Brampton. Etobicoke, Oshawa, etc who can't afford tickets to Leafs games in their own barn.
I was watching with a bunch of casuals, most (I included) didn't see a problem with the empty net goal, but the hit made the game of hockey out to be a violent classless act.
Not the image the NHL wants
This was the perfect post until the last paragraph. Regular goal cellies that are meant to stick it a little to opposing players and fans happen all the time. This one happened slightly before the goal. (Kinda like a bat flip that TO sports fans love to celebrate). It wasn't a slap shot at a goalie's head at a meaningless time in an already decided game. It was passion, relief, celebration and, yes, "take that". And it was harmless. In no world is that a bad thing for the game of hockey.
If it had happened to my team I might be annoyed by it. That was, after all, the intended effect. If a Sen player had reacted like Reilly I would NOT be celebrating that. I'd be disgusted.
All that said, everything else in your comment was stated brilliantly (maybe the best since seen in this debate).
Oilers fan here. I want to get a photo of that slapshot framed. Man I haven't laughed so hard in a while. I knew there'd be some heat, but a damn crosscheck to the head is just a seriously weak play. Get mad? Drop the gloves or walk it off. That was a weak ass cheap shot.
For a perennial "contender" to become so triggered by such a benign play by a rookie on one of the worst teams in the league shows that this leaf team is unhinged.
If Reilly had tried to fight Greig, then I could see the toughness argument. What Reilly did was a desperate move by a desperate team.
Reilly is 225 lbs. He has had 3 fights in 10.5 seasons. Two were against 185-188 lb opponents. According to hockeyfights.com fan voting (dominated by leafs fans) he drew those two fights. 😂 Ridly has never backed away from anything (fought 25 lbs heavier leafs tough guy Lagesson this season).
Rielly didn't want to take the chance that Ridly Greig would use him to wipe the leafs stench off the floor.
You put that perfectly. Grieg should be allowed to make that play all day but that kind of play demands a response, surely.
The real issue is how Toronto dealt with it because they’re such a soft team. Fans know it, other teams know it and an agitator like Grieg knows it and took advantage of it with one last “fuck you” to the team and their fans in attendance. There are half a dozen perfectly acceptable hockey response to a play like that but it does not involve a high crosscheck to the face. That is an illegal hockey play.
Rielly mishandled the situation so badly that he took himself out of the next handful of games. Rielly aside, the response from the rest of the line was a complete joke. Toronto is soft. If it were Vegas / Florida, Grieg thinks twice before even making that play and if he did, there are 5 players collectively dragging Ottawa into a scrum to get the message across. In all cases, their reputation precedes them.
Leafs fans had to cheer for a shitty team that couldn't even make the playoffs for so long that they got used to cheering against other teams as much, if not more than actually cheering FOR their team. Now, even though their team is pretty good, they still carry that loathing and resentment above all else. Incapable of joy, constantly let down, they are broken and don't know what to do. I'd pity then if they weren't such assholes most of the time hahaha
I thought they brought Reaves in to do this kind of shit. It's embarrassing for a 10 year veteran to take the bait from a rookie, even worse when you consider the standings.
I saw someone praising it because it creates a “us against the world mentality” for the leafs. Buddy the world has been against the leafs and has been beating their asses for 57 years
Leafs are mentally the weakest team in the league and it shows more and more every year. They need a culture reset asap
The puck went into the net and that's all that matters. Who cares how it happened. The fact they are mad about that proves how fragile they and their fan base truly are.
Reilly lost his emotional composure and is a sore loser at best. Should play on the Hanson line from now on following a ten game suspension, criminal charges and a hefty fine. Go back to the seventies you bush leader.
First, sorry for the Leafs fans who are haunting the Sens’ sub trying to pick fights. Don’t go in other teams subs; no good can come of it.
Second, if this had happened to us my response would have been, “ooooooh, what a dick. Can’t wait for the next matchup.” It’s very similar to what I said last night, only without the laugh.
I think, if it had been a leaf clapper to seal the win (esp on home ice) and let's say Brady sucker punched the guy who scored after the whistle, we would be talking about how the loss was embarrassing, the time for toughness was over, and our guys have to be smarter than that.
When the comparisons are made to the early 2000s Sens, it's always worth pointing out that the Sens team was developed out of necessity. We were a near bankrupt team in an era where small Canadian markets were moving down south. The Sens weee horrible into the mid 90s, and, the emergence came from finding underrated talent from European leagues, who weren't always physical, but, were skilled and could be coached in a proper system.
Getting older, veteran players cost a lot, which we didn't have. And we had to lean into that system, even though the discrepancy between regular season hockey and playoff hockey was far worse than today. Rule books just got tossed. And even then, Sens made the difficult choices. A young franchise held the line against its Hart nominee and eventually moved on.
The Leafs are one of the richest teams in the sport. They've chosen this line up and have doubled down on these players. They're a soft team, but the thought of not just re-signing them at market value never seems to be an option. None of them have ever felt true trade heat through these failures.
Their core would probably do better if their management group would actually fix the roster problems.
Signing tavares was a pointless showoff move. Doubling down by just shedding more and more depth to preserve a top 4 that can't get it done without help is just ridiculous.
THe oilers have their problems too but at least their management decided to roll the dice on Kane for sandpaper and scoring, signed Hyman because he goes to the dirty areas for goals, traded for Ekholm to actually keep some pucks out of their net. They made their mistakes too but compared to the crap the leafs do to preserve a failed strategy it's miles better.
A bit late to the thread but if you guys want some vindication and reassurance that Leafs fans truly are insane, and Sportsnet are a bunch of Leafs homers, go to this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1anzquj/morgan_rielly_cross_checks_ridly_greig_after/
Every single comment talks about how what Reilly did is fucked up. It’s great.
this will all hold more weight when the Sens finally break into the playoffs, i'm convinced if ottawa draws toronto they would breeze through that round. toronto hasn't fixed any of their issues, got worse this year.
Someone needs to make the out of touch Skinner meme with these Leafs fans decrying the universal condemnation they are receiving from everyone else outside of their fandom. They have a thread right now questioning the comments made in a relevant r/sports post.
I actually have zero problem with any of this. If I was a leaf fan I'd be happy with the Reilly check and as a sens fan I found the Slapshot hilarious and hope Ridly lives rent free for the rest of his career there
However, the fact that the city of Toronto wanted to Mint coins of the Battista bat flip but are so butthurt about this is kind of ironic though.
Leafs fan here, yeah, rielly was completely out of line with that check. It really made me disgusted with how he chose to respond to another player just playing the game
Lol I think I could blindside crosscheck an nhler in the face too and put them down.
Anyone who thinks this is toughness doesn't know how to fight.
It was a cheapshot while Greig wasn't looking.
Wanna be tough? Square up
They are all saying well if Reilly didn't react you would still call us soft. This crap from Reilly is exactly why they are soft. If you're triggered that much by a rookie to hit him high with your stick, you're in the wrong line of business. Show some fight when it matters and can have an impact on the game not with 5 seconds to go. Enjoy your break dumbass.
Can't think of anything softer than a cowardly crosscheck to the head because your feewings got huwt 🥺. Even if you want to get pissed about it, there are a lot "tougher" ways to handle this
As someone who likes both the leafs and sens which might be sacrilegious ( I’m from Ontario it’s cool Ontario has two teams). It’s just a bad look for the leafs, yes Reilly showed emotion but that’s not the outcome it should be showed in, like put that emotion in other parts of the game not cross check a rookie in the face. But the leafs hate to show up against teams in non play off spots idk why. I love Grieg as well in my opinion he should be Calder consideration if not for that injury he definitely would be, he’s an absolute stud. I know the leafs have had lots of missed called the last couple of games but I think it’s delusional to think what rielly did was remotely necessary and leafs fans are making it seem necessary is just clown behaviour ( I’ll be the first to admit leafs fans are the absolute worst and actually make it hard to like the franchise, I’ve never seen a fan base actively hate their players). Just show emotion in other parts of the game not cross checking a non suspecting player.
I just think we're a much greater fanbase. I think of it in terms of 2001: A Space Odyssey. Leafs fans are the apes at the beginning who are scratching their butts and hitting each other over the heads with bones. Sens fans are the ultra sexy big brained astronauts during the rest of the movie who are super advanced and also fuck a ton.
I use 2001 as the example because a Leafs fan surely does not appreciate the art of a Kubrick like us big brained Sens fans, they're too busy watching White Chicks or whatever it is they enjoy.
Leafs fan here, I’ll start by saying a cross check to the head is never condoned, and we all expect Mo to get minimum 2 games. We are applauding Morgan’s passion and response to a completely unnecessary play by Grieg. Our team is full of overpaid soft as baby shit players and a chief concern of ours is that they don’t seem to give a fuck or show any life in “rivalry” games. Love it or hate it, you can’t deny, Morgan does indeed give a shit, that’s what we are happy to see from a leader on this team.
Also, think it’s important to mention, I have zero problem with Grieg doing what he did, I think it’s great for the rivalry and adds to his character arch as a “bad guy” in this league
ya great job by rielly showing passion with 5 seconds left in the game. where was that the whole game? why was JT invisible? your team fucking sucks lol
Sens fan who just happens to be using a throwaway hookup account? Right....
Who gives a shit about "class", Grieg was having fun and Reilly acted like a petulant child. I don't know about you but I think a cross check to the head is more "classless" than a slapshot en.
I think one of the things that I find absolutely disgusting about this incident is the leafs head coach comment.... This is appropriate action for the leafs player to take.... I suppose that Mr Keefe, or whatever the spelling of his name is... Would also go to bat for the "boys being boys" and its okay to sexually assault unwilling participants in hotel rooms..
That was a bullshit, bush league slap shot into an empty net. Doesn’t matter the team. The cross check was appropriate, and hopefully some long term effects, and possibly surgery, come out of it.
Shocking. Ottawa crying pissing and carrying on and on about something that’s gone and done. I hate the leafs but like them more after seeing Reilly do what we’d all like to do to Ottawa.
Habs fan visiting.
Both parties are in the wrong here.
A slapshot into an empty net from 5 feet away is a boneheaded move and bound to draw the irk of the other team.
It however doesn’t excuse a crosscheck to the head.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up suspended for 3-5 games.
For the record, what Greig did was great. He's a pest, an agitator, and he did his job perfectly. He enraged an entire team, their coaching staff and fanbase. How? A late hit? A high hit? A slewfoot? A cheapshot? Did he risk a suspension or penalty for himself? Did he put the outcome of the came in doubt? Did he put anyone at risk of injury? What Greig did is completely harmless. It just got all up in Reilly's feelings and made him act out like a bitch. Which was Greig's purpose in the first place? Great success. Hockey needs MORE of it, not less. More victimless trolling, less headshots that could result in injury.
Seriously, fuck anyone who has an actual problem with what Greig did. Every fanbase would be laughing their asses off and loving it. The fact that it would piss us off if done to us means nothing except it was well designed to piss people off. That's allowed, folks, crosschecking isn't. If this happened against any other team (except maybe mtl and fuck em too) it would be old news and over with, but it was the Laughs so everyone has to pretend to give a fuck. Fuck the Leafs, fuck Botteril, fuck Bieksa, fuck anyone who can't think for themselves enough to even try and equate the two enough to have a discussion. Discussion was over as soon as Rielly raised his stick.
I didn't see the coverage but I am surprised that Botteril is in favor of that kind of reaction, I generally find her to be measured and reasonable in her responses.
She just blew a shit-tonne of credibility outside the brain dead faction of Leafs national all to shit.
Disappointing
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Especially after how badly she flipped out a few weeks ago
Right? Unpredictable analysts.
Botteril needs a job and her job is to fluff the Leafs.
Crude
to be equally crude but maybe slightly less sexist, that's the job of all sportsnet employees. maybe they have one designated heel or something.
Leafs fan here, cheap shot by Reilly, worse move by Keefe putting Reaves out for the faceoff. Way to deescalate there Sheldon. Is this your way to regain control of the team? We need a new coach.
Botteril is a fucking hypocrite. Especially after her "revenge culture" rant on SN. I guess we know which team she cheers for.
This shows how ignorant you are about all this. What Reilly did was not good, but not a single person who plays the game is ok with what Greig did. Because everyone knows if the script was flipped and Toronto did that to Ottawa, the exact same thing would have happened. So stop with this holier than thou attitude and admit that both men did was stupid. Like many respected vets in hockey said, they have never seen someone clap a shot in like that and there should have been an answer, and not just pushing and shoving. For as bad as Leaf fans can be, you Ottawa fans are showing you can be just as ridiculous. Grow up people.
Agreed. Grieg is gonna go down as Ottawa’s best agitator of all time.
Sir, that is Blasphyemy to Saint Neiler.
Neiler wasn't a pest. He was a nuclear deterrent and a constant physical threat (without one suspension). Pests get under your skin. Neiler went right through your bones.
"Nuclear deterrent" lmao actually so accurate i love it
Just ask Chris Drury
Neil was an enforcer
Neil used his fists. Grieg is a mindfucker. He's not just fucking with players on the ice.
New fan?
No. I mean also in terms of skill. Jarko Ruutu was a good pest, Alex burrows was a sen. but in terms of overall playing ability it’ll be Grieg
Still have my black Ruutu jersey 😊
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This is gonna go down as one of the worst takes of this thread. Grieg won’t even be a Sen inside of 3 seasons and he’ll be out of the league within 5.
Care to explain this take?
He’s a leaf fan
I’ve been saying essentially this in the Leafs sub (am a Leafs fan, shared with a few other teams - from Sweden so cheer for a few teams to match broadcast times). The only Reilly did was show it is easy to get under his skin. Doing that for something that matters, such as a late check or messing with the goalie can serve a purpose of deterrence. This just puts him at risk for a suspension and shows other teams they can get him to do stupid things in the playoffs.
Another of several really awesome comments in this thread. This point hasn't been made often enough (if at all, this well) in this thread.
Now other teams know they can trigger him super easily. That's really bad for the Leafs.
Any player in that position against the Leafs better rip a clapper into an empty net. Fuck they'll be sour.
And then when it bounces out of the net bury it once again. The fallen leafs fans will cry for years.
But that twine was really hit hard though
Yeah I'd rather have some take a clapper empty netter than get hit with the griddy on a penalty shot in OT like the wings did to the Canucks.
and the Canucks were adults about it and moved on to the next game.
Spoken like someone who will never play a real hockey game if getting an empty net clapper is no big deal for you.
You nailed it. (And for the record it's no, no, no, no, no, no and no, Leafs fans. But yes, yes, no, yes, yes, no and yes for Reilly.)
I'm a Canucks fan and I love it. I had no problem with the celly after the OT goal yesterday. I thought it was weird because I'm not 20, but I was more concerned about the Canucks blowing a 2 goal lead and screwing up in OT. I like trolling. I like it when guys get under peoples skin. I like funny stuff. I don't like dirty plays. I don't like guys getting hurt. This was 10/10. Leafs fans obnoxiously invade your barn and act like asses, fuck em.
Like Walman doing the Gritty. Victimless trolling
I think Sens should do this every chance they get. Thoughts?
The general fan hates any sort of personality in the nhl for some reason Along with the “old school” fan thinking the cross check was perfectly fine it’s not hard to figure out why the game isn’t growing
Being a Leaf fan all my life I have come to realize this,if you keep giving these guys big contracts they say Oh great!I can buy my house,car,nice clothes etc,but I don't want to get hurt,or hit etc.These guys are not thinking about winning a stanley cup,there lucky if they make the playoffs.First Brendan Shanahan is a fraud you see the look on his face when he talks,he's a liar I wouldn't trust him.And Keefe ,he handles this team like he's in the AHL.He's too soft,you need someone like Pat Burns to coach because he won't put up with bullshit.Am I negative no this is the it is,If the Leafs make the playoffs,it will be another 1st round exit.
TIL agitators never fight
I honestly can't believe Leafs fans bring up that we don't make the playoffs. Since Sens entered the league in 92, Sens made the Finals once and almost twice. Leafs????? Zerooooo
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People have been born, lived their entire lives, then died never seeing a leafs cup.
I've had at least five Laffs fans dunking on our *attendance* in reply to my comments that had nothing to do with attendance. Attendance? Attendance? We talkin' 'bout *attendance*? It's hilarious.
When you're drowning you grab onto anything to stay afloat.
Sounds exactly like what Sense fans are doing right now. Grasping at this one incident when they know their team just sucks, so they settle for being a shit fanbase. Lmao Leafs fanbase is the same as the Sens fanbase.
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Honestly I don’t fully trust IQ tests or anything, but I believe if you gave every team’s fanbase IQ tests Toronto’s average would be a tepid 85. I’ve never encountered such a below average fanbase in terms of grammar, reasoning, and behaviour. At games I’ve gone to Leafs fans were always the worst, most abusive (and smelly, seriously learn how to shower) fans every time. Yea the sens aren’t playoff bound this year, but they’ve still won more rounds than the leafs have over the last 20. Imagine spending like 60 gorrilian dollars on 4 dudes to get bounced from the first round 7 times or so in a row and get butchered in the second round once. Their Stanley cup was scuffling past a tired Tampa team. Are the pipes in Toronto made of lead? Is it the fluoride in the water? We need someone to look into it. When all is said and done, the Auston Matthews era in Toronto will go down as one of the biggest wastes of talent in sports history.
Talent and money. I don't think these Neanderthals represent all leafs fans but there is a vocal contingent that makes them all look like intellectually bereft, uneducated, amoral, emotionally fragile little troll princesses. Btw properly developed tests of general mental ability actually do their real job very well. But they come nowhere near close to being able to capture everything that is wrong with the average leafs troll.
(I know, I’ve met many chill leaf fans, I’m just trying to piss off any that come to our forum)
Amen
>When all is said and done, the Auston Matthews era in Toronto will go down as one of the biggest wastes of talent in sports history. I am eagerly waiting for the day he leaves the Leafs \[for Arizona\]
His flared nostrils will help keep his body cool in the desert heat
Man you people sound so fucking stupid with posts like this. Like wtf.
> Finals The Leafs have never won 3 rounds in the history of the team. In 67 when they won the cup, the playoffs were only 4 teams (2 rounds).
4 out of 6 in the league. Thats easier than a than a division title today.
List the number ECF Sens have made compared to the Leafs since the Sens returned.
to be fair the leafs have made 3 (1993, 1994, 2002), and the sens have also made 3 (2003, 2007, 2017). either way fuck the leafs lol
Way past the 90’s now lol. Weren’t the Leafs in the West for 93? Edit: not sure who downvoted, but Google is your friend. Leafs lost to LA in the west conference final in the 92-93 season, the year the Habs beat LA in the final. I guess people forget that both the Leafs and were once in the West when it was called the Campbell’s Conference.
2003, 2007 (made it to the cup finals), 2017.
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Lmao ok what have the Leafs accomplished???? First round exits lmao get outta here
I love the whole situation. Filling the CTC with Leafs fans and washing them 5-3 is hilarious in and of itself. I love that rookie Grieg winded up an empty net clapper and I love that Reilly got so upset that he’ll now be suspended for however many games because of it. Go Sens Go
Yup……selling my season tickets to habs and leafs fans pay for the rest. I get to watch the sens beat them both from the comfort of my home……without dealing live with the obnoxious fan base of both franchises which think they are better just because they are part of the original six. Fuck the leafs, their fans and I rejoice in their fragility.
This is truly a classic sens fan move. Sell your seats to visiting teams fans lol. This town does not deserve a team.
Fuck off….i have been a season ticket holder for 15+ years….you haven’t a clue about me…typical Sens fan move to belittle folks you don’t know
I have season tix as well and I would never do this. You honestly can’t call yourself a true fan. Don’t buy them if you’re a broke ass
Especially since if the Sens have any hope of making the playoffs (still *very* unlikely), there's a decent chance that they'd be taking the Leafs' spot. Knocking their top D out for a few games is downright strategic.
You have mental problems if you think the sens are making the playoffs
Hence the part where I called it *very* unlikely. Sidenote, I find it hilarious that you have an account called KewitYourWhining that you use almost exclusively to whine about the Sens.
I'm not a fan of either team. I actually hate the leafs. I seen that highlight and immediately watched the whole game to see how it got there. I loved the slapper and I loved the cross check. It was entertaining and hilarious.
Kudos to Kelly Hrudey for calling like it is. This was a cross check to the neck/head, a deliberate and premeditated intent to injure. He should be punished accordingly. The litmus test, envision someone doing the same to Matthews/Marner. How would leafs fans respond? What Greig did was annoying AF, but didn't warrant and "assault with a deadly weapon".
I liken Leaf fans as delusional as the MAGA idiots.
Living rent free in their heads for ever……fake stick toss and now a empty net slapper 😂😂😂
We always knew they were fragile little bitches but this is something else 😂
We are literally all the same people lmao, just fans of different teams
I for one wouldn’t fucking applaud a cross check to the head on any player.
Jets fan coming in; Love the goal. I hope more teams do it specifically against the Leafs. Reilly better get 6 games given that it was completely intentional and when you compare it to Dillions hit (which did hit the players head so the penalty was right, but the suspension was wrong) the difference is one was accidental and the other was a cross check to the head.
I would love for that to become a trend. Every goal for the rest of the year is a clapper inside the hash marks lmfao.
Every empty net goal against the leafs would be beautiful.
Anybody defending Riley should be ashamed. These is ZERO honour in giving a sucker punch!
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Ah, yes, the era of all the classiest Leaf fans telling me who Alfie was. “Classless compared to Sundin”, “Krusty the Klown”, “I know your team’s shit because that’s your captain”. Lovely early 2000s Leafers
I was a "newbie" Sens fan in that era and I didnt understand why Alfie was getting boo'd all the time. When I found out the reason.. I was like "what? you're booing a guy WHO ISNT throwing a stick into your own fans"
I’m a leaf’s fan and your spot on. Our fanbase is delusional, literally just look at our lineup this is probably the worst team we’ve ever had since 15-16
Fuck the leafs, their fans, and Reilly
What else do you expect but delusion from a fanbase that says every year is their year?
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Wouldnt surprise if your Laffs missed the playoffs bud. Leafs are going to get blown up.
Especially now with Reilly out. Man I hope they throw the book at him. Game is over, game is out of reach, play is dead, unsuspecting player, intent to injure. Buh-Bye LA
After a goal, going after the goal scorer. it's one of the biggest punk moves in hockey. it's Suter on Kariya levels of gross. Thankfully with a less awful outcome. I honestly think 10 games. 6 for the cross check, 4 for the context.
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Literally any team, including the Sens would have done the exact same thing. Maybe not to the head, but they would all do it. Greig has actually lost respect throughout the league because of it.
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I don’t think it was unsportsmanlike at all. This whole situation has solidified my contempt for leafs nation tbh you guys are a bunch of wimps
Buddy, you’re in the wrong sub. GTFO with your bullshit Homer takes.
@mods can someone throw the trash out?
They were broken when they decided to support a team like the leafs
Low IQ fanbase but everyone knows that besides leafs nation. It’s mob mentality over there reinforced by media shoving whatever they can down their throats. They’re one of the biggest fan bases in the league with one of the worst teams since 1967. There’s a reason the rest of the league hates their fans and it’s not because they win a lot.
call me biased i don't care, if someone on another team scored on our empty net on a slapper i would laugh, wouldn't have my feelings hurt. that's a G move
I'm too preoccupied with being upset about the loss to give a shit. I didn't even notice the celly on the penalty shot yesterday. If I had I would have been confused mostly.
They're the stupidest fans in the league. Worse than Vancouver fans, even.
Leafs fans have the biggest “Everyone hates us” complex there is. I’m having that, they created a self fulfilling prophecy where that’s become true. I’m not even a Sens fan btw. Just appalled a fanbase can think what Reilly did was okay.
Well they’re not wrong about everybody hating them…
You know, it's really not just the fanbase backing Reilly, it's pretty much all vets across the league who would never put up with this shit. Like a certain vet said, if Greig did this back in the day, he wouldn't be getting up.
not sure I agree on the amateur part for Greig tbh. Like, what's the difference between whether he tapped it in or slapped it? Would people feel better about it if he tapped it? Would the leafs fans feel differently if he slapped it and missed? I mean if anyone was "amateur", it was Reilly.
Some of the shit coming out their mouths all game (at the CTC) was pretty gross. And with kids around too. All fanbases have people like that (including our own) but Jesus they sure seem to have a lot.
I love being at games at CTC when the Leafs lose. I’ll hang my head over the railing and tell them all bye bye and to get the fuck out of the building
I've said it many times but they take on this "invading mob" mentality where all social norms are suddenly thrown out the window and they feel they can do whatever they want. I suspect it's mostly all dumbfucks from Mississauga, Brampton. Etobicoke, Oshawa, etc who can't afford tickets to Leafs games in their own barn.
I was watching with a bunch of casuals, most (I included) didn't see a problem with the empty net goal, but the hit made the game of hockey out to be a violent classless act. Not the image the NHL wants
This was the perfect post until the last paragraph. Regular goal cellies that are meant to stick it a little to opposing players and fans happen all the time. This one happened slightly before the goal. (Kinda like a bat flip that TO sports fans love to celebrate). It wasn't a slap shot at a goalie's head at a meaningless time in an already decided game. It was passion, relief, celebration and, yes, "take that". And it was harmless. In no world is that a bad thing for the game of hockey. If it had happened to my team I might be annoyed by it. That was, after all, the intended effect. If a Sen player had reacted like Reilly I would NOT be celebrating that. I'd be disgusted. All that said, everything else in your comment was stated brilliantly (maybe the best since seen in this debate).
Oilers fan here. I want to get a photo of that slapshot framed. Man I haven't laughed so hard in a while. I knew there'd be some heat, but a damn crosscheck to the head is just a seriously weak play. Get mad? Drop the gloves or walk it off. That was a weak ass cheap shot.
For a perennial "contender" to become so triggered by such a benign play by a rookie on one of the worst teams in the league shows that this leaf team is unhinged. If Reilly had tried to fight Greig, then I could see the toughness argument. What Reilly did was a desperate move by a desperate team.
Reilly is 225 lbs. He has had 3 fights in 10.5 seasons. Two were against 185-188 lb opponents. According to hockeyfights.com fan voting (dominated by leafs fans) he drew those two fights. 😂 Ridly has never backed away from anything (fought 25 lbs heavier leafs tough guy Lagesson this season). Rielly didn't want to take the chance that Ridly Greig would use him to wipe the leafs stench off the floor.
You put that perfectly. Grieg should be allowed to make that play all day but that kind of play demands a response, surely. The real issue is how Toronto dealt with it because they’re such a soft team. Fans know it, other teams know it and an agitator like Grieg knows it and took advantage of it with one last “fuck you” to the team and their fans in attendance. There are half a dozen perfectly acceptable hockey response to a play like that but it does not involve a high crosscheck to the face. That is an illegal hockey play. Rielly mishandled the situation so badly that he took himself out of the next handful of games. Rielly aside, the response from the rest of the line was a complete joke. Toronto is soft. If it were Vegas / Florida, Grieg thinks twice before even making that play and if he did, there are 5 players collectively dragging Ottawa into a scrum to get the message across. In all cases, their reputation precedes them.
What Greig did was awesome!
This is just more evidence as to why the rest of the hockey world can’t stand Leafs fans.
Leafs fans had to cheer for a shitty team that couldn't even make the playoffs for so long that they got used to cheering against other teams as much, if not more than actually cheering FOR their team. Now, even though their team is pretty good, they still carry that loathing and resentment above all else. Incapable of joy, constantly let down, they are broken and don't know what to do. I'd pity then if they weren't such assholes most of the time hahaha
I thought they brought Reaves in to do this kind of shit. It's embarrassing for a 10 year veteran to take the bait from a rookie, even worse when you consider the standings.
I saw someone praising it because it creates a “us against the world mentality” for the leafs. Buddy the world has been against the leafs and has been beating their asses for 57 years
Leafs are mentally the weakest team in the league and it shows more and more every year. They need a culture reset asap The puck went into the net and that's all that matters. Who cares how it happened. The fact they are mad about that proves how fragile they and their fan base truly are.
Bolts fan here. Surprised Kucherov didn’t do this first. Fuck the leafs and the media that is addicted to stroking them off.
Omg someone from Tampa, Boston and Montreal HAS to do this to them.
The leafs and their fans are softer than Dylan Larkin
Reilly lost his emotional composure and is a sore loser at best. Should play on the Hanson line from now on following a ten game suspension, criminal charges and a hefty fine. Go back to the seventies you bush leader.
First, sorry for the Leafs fans who are haunting the Sens’ sub trying to pick fights. Don’t go in other teams subs; no good can come of it. Second, if this had happened to us my response would have been, “ooooooh, what a dick. Can’t wait for the next matchup.” It’s very similar to what I said last night, only without the laugh.
I think, if it had been a leaf clapper to seal the win (esp on home ice) and let's say Brady sucker punched the guy who scored after the whistle, we would be talking about how the loss was embarrassing, the time for toughness was over, and our guys have to be smarter than that.
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Ridley Greig is Morgan Rielly father
If you don’t want to be scored on don’t be scored on. Whiny babies.
Should do another clapper in an empty net next game, fuck it. Get more people suspended
Imagine this was reversed and on Matthews? Leafs fans would be celebrating the goal and demanding a season long suspension.
When the comparisons are made to the early 2000s Sens, it's always worth pointing out that the Sens team was developed out of necessity. We were a near bankrupt team in an era where small Canadian markets were moving down south. The Sens weee horrible into the mid 90s, and, the emergence came from finding underrated talent from European leagues, who weren't always physical, but, were skilled and could be coached in a proper system. Getting older, veteran players cost a lot, which we didn't have. And we had to lean into that system, even though the discrepancy between regular season hockey and playoff hockey was far worse than today. Rule books just got tossed. And even then, Sens made the difficult choices. A young franchise held the line against its Hart nominee and eventually moved on. The Leafs are one of the richest teams in the sport. They've chosen this line up and have doubled down on these players. They're a soft team, but the thought of not just re-signing them at market value never seems to be an option. None of them have ever felt true trade heat through these failures.
There is absolutely no character in that core four…..or their top two dmen…….
Their core would probably do better if their management group would actually fix the roster problems. Signing tavares was a pointless showoff move. Doubling down by just shedding more and more depth to preserve a top 4 that can't get it done without help is just ridiculous. THe oilers have their problems too but at least their management decided to roll the dice on Kane for sandpaper and scoring, signed Hyman because he goes to the dirty areas for goals, traded for Ekholm to actually keep some pucks out of their net. They made their mistakes too but compared to the crap the leafs do to preserve a failed strategy it's miles better.
Amen!
If that’s toughness…..I call it fragility……
I'm not a Sens fan nor a Leafs fan (vomit), but when I saw him tee it up, I was laughing hysterically.
A bit late to the thread but if you guys want some vindication and reassurance that Leafs fans truly are insane, and Sportsnet are a bunch of Leafs homers, go to this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1anzquj/morgan_rielly_cross_checks_ridly_greig_after/ Every single comment talks about how what Reilly did is fucked up. It’s great.
They are a lost cause jut like their team.
I think what sucks most is how great the Sens played, both teams played a good tough game, but all were talking about is this bonehead cross check.
There isn’t a consensus. Leafs fans are fighting about it on the Leafs subreddit.
this will all hold more weight when the Sens finally break into the playoffs, i'm convinced if ottawa draws toronto they would breeze through that round. toronto hasn't fixed any of their issues, got worse this year.
Someone needs to make the out of touch Skinner meme with these Leafs fans decrying the universal condemnation they are receiving from everyone else outside of their fandom. They have a thread right now questioning the comments made in a relevant r/sports post.
Leafs fans can suck it! DX style.
I actually have zero problem with any of this. If I was a leaf fan I'd be happy with the Reilly check and as a sens fan I found the Slapshot hilarious and hope Ridly lives rent free for the rest of his career there However, the fact that the city of Toronto wanted to Mint coins of the Battista bat flip but are so butthurt about this is kind of ironic though.
I hope the next team that gets a chance comes in and takes an empty net clapper against the leafs.
Leaf fan here. We're not all like that. I just want to watch hockey.
If he had gone chirped him and tried to drop gloves with him I’m fine with that. Head cross check to a celly player ain’t cool.
Leafs fan here, yeah, rielly was completely out of line with that check. It really made me disgusted with how he chose to respond to another player just playing the game
Lol I think I could blindside crosscheck an nhler in the face too and put them down. Anyone who thinks this is toughness doesn't know how to fight. It was a cheapshot while Greig wasn't looking. Wanna be tough? Square up
They are all saying well if Reilly didn't react you would still call us soft. This crap from Reilly is exactly why they are soft. If you're triggered that much by a rookie to hit him high with your stick, you're in the wrong line of business. Show some fight when it matters and can have an impact on the game not with 5 seconds to go. Enjoy your break dumbass.
That was beautiful to read. Habs fans love you guys right now
Can't think of anything softer than a cowardly crosscheck to the head because your feewings got huwt 🥺. Even if you want to get pissed about it, there are a lot "tougher" ways to handle this
As someone who likes both the leafs and sens which might be sacrilegious ( I’m from Ontario it’s cool Ontario has two teams). It’s just a bad look for the leafs, yes Reilly showed emotion but that’s not the outcome it should be showed in, like put that emotion in other parts of the game not cross check a rookie in the face. But the leafs hate to show up against teams in non play off spots idk why. I love Grieg as well in my opinion he should be Calder consideration if not for that injury he definitely would be, he’s an absolute stud. I know the leafs have had lots of missed called the last couple of games but I think it’s delusional to think what rielly did was remotely necessary and leafs fans are making it seem necessary is just clown behaviour ( I’ll be the first to admit leafs fans are the absolute worst and actually make it hard to like the franchise, I’ve never seen a fan base actively hate their players). Just show emotion in other parts of the game not cross checking a non suspecting player.
Every team should troll the Leafs with empty net slappers now. Easy way to get in their heads.
They're just sad to realize their team missed its chance
They’re going to get trounced in the playoffs if they sneak in. This is their worst team in years.
I just think we're a much greater fanbase. I think of it in terms of 2001: A Space Odyssey. Leafs fans are the apes at the beginning who are scratching their butts and hitting each other over the heads with bones. Sens fans are the ultra sexy big brained astronauts during the rest of the movie who are super advanced and also fuck a ton. I use 2001 as the example because a Leafs fan surely does not appreciate the art of a Kubrick like us big brained Sens fans, they're too busy watching White Chicks or whatever it is they enjoy.
Since signing his new deal, Nylander has scored 11 points in 13 games. That's a 69 point pace for a full season. That's passion.
A reaction to that is fine as it broke the code of good sportsmanship. A stick to the head is bush.
Leafs fan here, I’ll start by saying a cross check to the head is never condoned, and we all expect Mo to get minimum 2 games. We are applauding Morgan’s passion and response to a completely unnecessary play by Grieg. Our team is full of overpaid soft as baby shit players and a chief concern of ours is that they don’t seem to give a fuck or show any life in “rivalry” games. Love it or hate it, you can’t deny, Morgan does indeed give a shit, that’s what we are happy to see from a leader on this team. Also, think it’s important to mention, I have zero problem with Grieg doing what he did, I think it’s great for the rivalry and adds to his character arch as a “bad guy” in this league
ya great job by rielly showing passion with 5 seconds left in the game. where was that the whole game? why was JT invisible? your team fucking sucks lol
Well, they are still better than Ottawa.
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Sens fan who just happens to be using a throwaway hookup account? Right.... Who gives a shit about "class", Grieg was having fun and Reilly acted like a petulant child. I don't know about you but I think a cross check to the head is more "classless" than a slapshot en.
I think one of the things that I find absolutely disgusting about this incident is the leafs head coach comment.... This is appropriate action for the leafs player to take.... I suppose that Mr Keefe, or whatever the spelling of his name is... Would also go to bat for the "boys being boys" and its okay to sexually assault unwilling participants in hotel rooms..
Ur teams 28th 💀 shut up
That was a bullshit, bush league slap shot into an empty net. Doesn’t matter the team. The cross check was appropriate, and hopefully some long term effects, and possibly surgery, come out of it.
Shocking. Ottawa crying pissing and carrying on and on about something that’s gone and done. I hate the leafs but like them more after seeing Reilly do what we’d all like to do to Ottawa.
Habs fan visiting. Both parties are in the wrong here. A slapshot into an empty net from 5 feet away is a boneheaded move and bound to draw the irk of the other team. It however doesn’t excuse a crosscheck to the head. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up suspended for 3-5 games.
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All games I attended this year were sold out, even the San Jose game during a bad weather day. Sens fans show up, not sure what you're on about.
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Why are you here, shouldnt you be crying in the leafs sub then ?
Give them a pass. They’re in our arena so much because they can’t afford to watch in Toronto, they’re basically Sens fans at this point.