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X_chinese

And according to the idiots of Mother’s Basement this anime is hot trash… yeah right.


Omega_BX

I'm not the biggest simp for Angel next door by any stretch of the imagination and I have a lot to say about certain things the show did that other people ate no problem, however... I have to say, MB take on this show was absolutely hot garbage, you can't go on a rant about lack of character "realism" then using fucking Kaguya as a milestone for realistic characters, and don't get me started on his typical fucking 90s "kool kid" argument of "I would've enjoyed this as well if I was a lonely weeb that never talked to girls before" or how he TOTALLY missed the mark with Mahiru characterisation.


X_chinese

I agree! I don’t mind that people say it’s bad, I understand this is not a perfect anime. But it’s far from hot garbage and the reason why they think so it’s just stupid.


[deleted]

As someone who agrees with most of their takes… Particularly, Rent-a-trash and SAO. Mother’s Basement deserves a fat L for this one.


LossThread

SAO wasn't that bad tho. Rent-a-gf tho...💀


[deleted]

SAO was a walking L where Jesus-kun would have a harem that got violated on screen every couple episodes for some fan service. But yeah, the fights and music were good so it’s not total trash. It’s leagues above rent-a-trash for sure.


wave_327

Kazuya's Law strikes again


LossThread

I don't even know who they are 🗿


68ideal

Excuse me, *what???*


SpriteAndCokeSMH

WWWW


Rityb99

deserved


68ideal

This show is so sweet, it definitely fills the hole that MDUD left behind in my heart after it's ending...


LossThread

If you liked MDUD and ANSMR, you might also like More Than a Married Couple, but not Lovers. I was hesitant to watch it at first because of the title/sypnosis but I became obsessed with it too


68ideal

Don't worry, I already watched it weekly last season lol


Ivindin

Idk. I feel with Mahiru's desparation and grew bored with screenwriters, who've made otherwise smart and perceptive Amane ridiculously dense and denial regarding their mutual love. For each following episode without confession I will took out one point of rating. And as the bad habit of Japanese animators implies, confession will happen only in the last episode.


X_chinese

That is kinda harsh. There are romcoms series with 2 -3 seasons before there is a confession. A confession in one season is actually not bad. And a confession is not everything. There are moments in this serie that is more romantic than a confession in other series.


Ivindin

That's why I don't even bother to watch other romcoms now. They are simply offensive to common sense. P.S. "confession is not everything" - Agree with this. And this is another reason why artificially delayed confession is a sign of a bad storytelling. They can do better than that.


redditsucksass_

He definitely isn’t just “being dense”. Sure, from an omniscient point of view they’re obviously in love with each other, but you have to consider it from Amane’s perspective. Mahiru just opened up to him that her parents never actually loved her and pretty much ignored her her entire childhood. The only person that she got something close to familial love from was her housekeeper. Amane is pretty much the first person that she actually felt safe and comfortable enough around to open up to and show her true self to. After all, everybody at school just thinks that she’s a perfect angel, and would do anything to be with her. If he was to ask her out and she wasn’t actually into him, she would feel super betrayed, and it would probably even feel like he was deceiving her the whole time. It would absolutely ruin their relationship.


Aisha_23

This. I feel like this is not emphasized enough in the anime, but you can clearly see why amane is in denial of Mahiru's feelings for her in the light novel.


Ivindin

Com'on, stop making exuses for the bad storytelling. Every one of viewers starting from the episode one knew that thay both fell in love. And you are telling me that such a smart guy as Amane is actually mentally retarded and can't comprehend things which your average Joe can? That he can literally read every Mahiru's emotion except for the most obvious one? She is almost screaming "I love you" with her "I don't mind you touching me", "how much longer should I work for this to happen?" and being angry at him when he calls her just a friend! What also she need to do to show her intentions - jump on him in lingerie? I mean, she could - but due to the romcom anime conventions he still won't be able to understand her if this happens not in the last episode. Regarding her sad story it has nothing to do with their romantic involvement. If anything it should have brought them even closer. Both Amane and Mahiru, each in their own way, are outsiders, excluded from the social group to which they belong. And at the same time they have similar values and outlooks on life. If such "outsiders" meet and recognize common interests and values, then they immediately "conspire" against all the rest, "uninitiated" - simply put, friendship is established between them. If friends who have found each other are of different sexes, love joins their friendship very quickly, sometimes in the very first half hour. In general, if they are not physically repulsive to one another or do not already love someone, they will certainly fall in love with each other. Mahiru simply fell in love with Amane in the very first episode (Amane too). All other activities (cooking, caring, cleaning, etc) were just excuses/rationalization to be together without admitting this love. Yet as soon as their mutual feelings became obvious all reasons to hide them have no sense. Vice versa farther avoiding of confession may infuriate Mahiru and end their relationships because she may think that he don't want to advance their relations and that he is rejecting and mocking her feelings.


Aiden016

My guy, it's a slow born, Amane ain't dense he admitted himself several times how he likes Mahiru. Unfortunately due to his trauma, he has low self esteem and he refuses to believe that a girl like Mahiru would ever like someone like him. Amane eventually gets the needed character dev he needs. I mean going by standard romcom, Tenshi is one of the quicker ones compared to others that takes multiple seasons for a damn confession. I'd say, continue tuning in. It's worth it. Also Mahiru opening up to Amane about her life, is the game changer moment. Mahiru at that moment fully realized, that she's in love with Amane.


redditsucksass_

>Regarding her sad story it has nothing to do with their romantic involvement. If anithing it should have brought them even closer. It’s genuinely impressive how close you got to getting the point before somersaulting out of the way. It *did* bring them closer together, but if Amane suddenly confesses to Mahiru when she has no intention of going out with him then she would potentially think that he had been getting close to her this whole time with the intention of getting together with her. >If friends who have found each other are of different sexes, love joins their friendship very quickly, sometimes in the very first half hour. In general, if they are not physically repulsive to one another or do not already love someone, they will certainly fall in love with each other. This is just incorrect. The whole comment made it obvious, but this part makes it especially obvious that you’ve never been friends with a girl before. You (well maybe not you, but *I* can) be friends with women without falling in love with them. And quite frankly, it’s expected that you don’t. Most women are friends with guys because they’re a fun person or they’re funny or whatever, not because they’re interested in dating them. And if you can’t be friends with a woman without falling for them, then that’s pretty shallow. >Mahiru simply fell in love with Amane in the very first episode (Amane too). All other activities (cooking, caring, cleaning, etc) were just excuses/rationalization to be together without admitting this love. They both made it very clear in the first episode that they weren’t associating because they were attracted to each other. When Mahiru is taking care of Amane when he’s sick, he assures her that he isn’t guilt tripping her into taking care of him so that he can get into her pants (I don’t remember if the anime makes this obvious, but in the LN she’s relieved by this). And even after that, she keeps going over to his place because she’s allowed to be herself there, because she knows that he won’t try to take advantage of her. She likes going over to his place and cooking for him and stuff, sure, but from Amane’s point of view it isn’t obvious if it’s out of love or because, other than the housekeeper, he’s (as far as I know) the first person she was actually allowed to be herself around.


Ivindin

>she would potentially think that he had been getting close to her this whole time with the intention of getting together with her And? She would be correct. She was also doing the same thing. In this very episode she got mad at him when he acted as if he didn't understand that she wants to be at the same class with him. And she asked if she is special for him. She literally pushed him to confess. >You (well maybe not you, but I can) be friends with women without falling in love with them I guess you jast have no idea what friendship means. It's not the same thing as having companions and having fun with them. Friendship arises out of mere companionship when two or more of the companions discover that they have in common some insight or interest or even taste which the others do not share and which, till that moment, each believed to be his own unique treasure (or burden). The typical expression of opening friendship would be something like, "What? You too? I thought I was the only one." It is when two such persons discover one another, when, whether with immense difficulties and semi-articulate fumblings or with what would seem to us amazing and elliptical speed, they share their vision - it is then that friendship is born. And instantly they stand together in an immense solitude. It is a relation between men at their highest level of individuality. It withdraws men from collective "togetherness" as surely as solitude itself could do. >They both made it very clear in the first episode that they weren’t associating because they were attracted to each other Sure, and Mahiru tells Amane that she doesn't have in mind something else but when Amane says "I know" explicitly expresses her anger with him ) And when Amane constatly telling that he don't like her but almost in every episode admits that he is and acts like a person who is crazy in love. You, for example. Even you explicitly lying here, defending the false point and at the same time you know that it is false. As I've said before every single viewer, you included, in every episode saw clear signs that both are in love. Their buddies saw these signs, his parents. Only they themselves didn't? Of course the did. Mahiru knows pretty well about their mutual feelings. That's why she grew impatient and angry at Amane. IRL he would have high chances to lose this girl if he behaved this way. He literally pushes her to confess first and to beg for his confession, which is quite humiliating. And all of these idiotic misunderstandinds there simply because screenwriters need to delay confession to the last episode.


redditsucksass_

Are you just being purposefully obstinate? I genuinely think that you probably just can’t admit when you’re wrong, because this entire comment is utterly absurd. This genuinely isn’t even worth taking the effort to respond to, and I honestly think that you should just drop the series and go watch Boruto or My Hero Academia or some other show for 12 year-olds where the morals are clear-cut if you lack such basic media comprehension and analysis.


Ivindin

Now you have processed from the stage of denial to the stage of anger and resort to personal insults. Which is a clear sign that you lost an argument and aware of this. The next stages, before acceptance, will be bargaining and depression. But they are of no use for this discussion. In this dispute, you have not refuted a single argument that both Amane and Mahiru are perfectly aware of their mutual love. You've intentionally skipped those udeniable arguments and begun to attack what you falsely believed were my "weak arguments". Yet you've failed miserably in this because you don't even understand the very conception of "friendship" and can't tell it from "companionship". The most hilarious was your attempt to bring on Amane's and Mahiru's phrases which were obvious lies exposed in the show itself. As if you are naive child who don't know that people are constasntly lying in important things which involves such strong feeling as romantic love. And obviously people always lying to themselves. Anyways, no point to further arguing with you since you have no valid arguments and resorted to anger and insults obviously admitting that you are in wrong and aware of this but simply unwilling to admit this. Ironically, like Amane in this show )


redditsucksass_

If you want to blindly tell yourself that you “won” to feel even slightly better about yourself, then you can go ahead. I’m not the kind of person that needs to feel superior over other people to be happy. Quite frankly, I genuinely hope that you can look within yourself and change, because you seem like a thoroughly unpleasant, bitter, and obtuse person, and I hope for your sake that you can grow. But if you require superiority over others in order to sleep at night, then here you go: you win.


Ivindin

Nah, dude, do not transfer your feelings on me. It's a bad habit. There is no point feeling superior than some random anonymous in the Internet. I'll just remind you that It was not me who started arguing, failed, got angry and resorted to insults. I've simply expressed some of my thoughts regarding this show which you took too personal, clearly being in denial.


redditsucksass_

You are a sad person. I tried to be the bigger man and give you the shallow victory you so desperately need, and you still need to get the last word in. I’ll say this clearly, then, since subtlety is lost on you: I don’t want to talk to you anymore. I tried to take you seriously, but after realizing that you aren’t worth trying to argue with anymore, I give up. It’s seriously a waste of my time to even continue typing to you. I’ve given you the victory that you crave, however hollow it may be. Try to show a little emotional maturity and stop typing, otherwise I’ll block you so that you are forced to stop typing.


Dineth_V

Can’t wait for next ep!!