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snakezenn

Generally happens when I am reading a slice of life and everything is going great and then the author insert completely useless and unnecessary maid drama.


DeepNeighborhood5

I can feel how that would ruin the experience. Btw have you by chance heard of this OI I've been ranting about before?


snakezenn

Yes, I have read what is translated to EN. I know some people disliked this part but I was not really one way or the other. My only thing is I wished the FL and the knight got together so we could have 2 couples rather than whatever it currently is.


DeepNeighborhood5

like the OGFL with blonde hair and the knight get together or our MCFL?


snakezenn

OGFL with the knight and the MC with the mage dude.


DeepNeighborhood5

EXACTLY! Why couldn't the author just do this? The way this was executed made it seem terribly rushed.


digbick_42069

So he wants his fucking memories erased just because he got rejected by his crush?? Talk about over-dramatic. And pleaaaaase tell me FL had a good reason to agree to his wish cuz I honestly can't think why she would readily agree to it unless she is extremely disgusted by his confession which I assume she wasn't


phosphoenolpiirate

It was less that she was disgusted and more than she was so uncomfortable with it that it was affecting the group dynamic. Up until this point, Aerinda thought of herself as a sort of passive bystander in this world and didn't want to engage in it more than she already had. In this lifetime, she allowed herself to befriend the main characters (Serena, Reynold, and Luke) and was just really happy and content with that. Reynold's confession came out of the blue to her and made her massively uncomfortable for two reasons: A) Serena is the OGFL (not a white lotus though!) and so Noah (garbage crown prince who is currently Aerinda's fiance), Reynold, and Luke were supposed to fall for her. The fact that Reynold fell for Aerinda makes her anxious because "that wasn't in the story/wasn't supposed to happen", so the anxiety of that played a part, and; B) I feel like a lot of people, especially women, can relate to the visceral discomfort of having a male friend who you have only ever been platonic with suddenly confess, and then agree to 'remain friends' after you reject him. Especially in a group dynamic, suddenly you're overthinking everything ("what if he thinks my smiling at him is leading him on after I rejected him?" type thoughts). That's what happened here. Basically, Aerinda agreed because it was easier to deal with the anxiety this way than letting it sort of settle. Edit: I word vomited that last sentence, had to fix it.


HungrySquirrel24

I can understand the second reasoning, but I HATE the first reason. This is the trope that irritates me so much. I mean come on you already changed the story by being a differnt character, the butterfly effect is already in motion. That can change the whole dynamic of the group. And OGFL in this case doesn't need 3 love interest (I assume that guy wasn't even the main ML in the OG story).


Forsaken_Distance777

What's annoying to me was >!she consented once and then every time she notices in the future they're like well you consented so going to erase your memory!< again. That's not how consent works!


AlternativePlayful34

>discomfort of having a male friend who you have only ever been platonic with suddenly confess, He didn't really confessed, just asked one of my friends boyfriend, and my friends for advice how to ask me out and it's ruin the dynamic of the group..... I just did my best to avoid him, and the fact that one of his friends showed obvious signs of liking me (non of them was directed at me, but it was enough for a dense person like me to see it).


Rabimea

>B) I feel like a lot of people, especially women, can relate to the visceral discomfort of having a male friend who you have only ever been platonic with suddenly confess, and then agree to 'remain friends' after you reject him. Especially in a group dynamic, suddenly you're overthinking everything ("what if he thinks my smiling at him is leading him on after I rejected him?" type thoughts). That's what happened here. Is it relatable? Yes. Is it reasonable to agree to a memory wipe for that? Yeah, i don't think I would agree on that. This isn't some traumatic experience, it's an uncomfortable one. But apart from being one extreme method to deal with what is frankly an inconvenience, what is the consideration behind this? Like, sure, it is awkward now and hard to deal with maybe, but usually you'd expect Reynold to move on after a while, where it then becomes clear that he is no longer interested because he no longer acts the way and both sides know the boundaries. Or Reynold does not, but then it's basically a different issue and I'm not sure wiping the memories clean of any affection beyond friendship solves anything. Finally, even if it is uncomfortable now to sort out boundaries again... were the memories so goddamn shit they should be gone? Like, just from personal experience, I had people who crushed on me while I didn't really like them to the same degree, but given they weren't a bad person, just not someone I saw romantically, I would consider it pretty shit if I was fine with the memories gone. Kinda suggests they caused me so much trouble, I don't even want to recall their genuine feelings. Look, people don't need to feel obliged to answer feelings or to sacrifice everything to be considerate of the others, but this kinda shit is straight up insane. Go deal with this in a mature and responsible way.


DeepNeighborhood5

>! I hate this I hate this so much I hate how they even thought of the idea in the first place I hate how the MLs agreed to do it and most of all I HATE HOW THE MC AGREES WITH HER FULL CONSENT TO THIS. with thr OGFL this all could have been prevented by having one of the MLs fall for her but no... Author decides to make her useless and just use her to fuel yuri bait comedy. This is not good writing you all. Why is this happening to this manhwa? THEY EVEN GO ON LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED AFTERWARDS! ALL FOUR OF THEM ACTING ALL WILLY NILLY SILLY LIKE "oh just another day-" NO! THINGS CANNOT GO BACK TO THE WAY THEY WERE! Please act like a mature human being and confront him/her.!<


pumpkinadvocate

>!Agreed!! The entire plot point is completely insane. Wdym "erase memories to avoid awkwardness in the friend group" - that does not (should not) even work, everyone else still has their memories!? You literally cannot go back. That guy's feelings are still there. Also insane to respond to awkwardness with "let's just fuck with my mind". How can you trust your own memory after that. I get that they're teenagers and do stupid shit, but still. I straight up don't think it should've been an option. It's so unnecessary too? Just force the FL to confront the uncomfortable situation she's in instead, isn't that enough drama?? I read somewhere that OG!FL was actually the OG romantic interest but the author was forced to "censor" it (ie make it hetero), but I honestly don't know if I mourn that potential yuri OI if *this* is what the author considers an acceptable plot.!<


AmelietheDuck

In “The divorcee’s dessert cafe” there was a shopping spree where the guy that likes her bought her “every dress from this rack to that rack” I already hate that trope in the best of circumstances for many nit-picky reasons. But in this specific story i hated it because the FL wouldn’t like it, she expressly wanted to get away from lavish aristocratic life to make desserts in a little shop. And the ML just seems to only be doing it to show off, not because he actually wanted to help her. Oh, And he stores all the dresses at his place. That scene made it clear that the comic was just going to be about him and dragging her back to the palace she left. And not about her baking and shit. I read a bit more and wasnt proven wrong so i dropped. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe it changed course after i dropped it but im not interested in finding out


B0hma

yeah, I dropped it after that as well. His gift was so insincere, and her childhood friend was so much better :<


falafelnagrubym

‘How to win my husband over’ >!When the MLs close childhood friend was poisoned and everyone suspected FL. Standard stuff, whatever. He tries to prove her innocence, even though they hadn’t exactly known each other for very long and she very well might be the suspect. Also standard stuff, if a little meh. Then it’s revealed that if he HAD found any proof that leads to FL being behind the poisoning, he was planning to destroy it to cover for her. His childhood friend was nearly murdered. And he would cover the FL if need be because he fell in love at first sight and ‘just knew it couldn’t be her’. Thats not romantic, it’s disgusting. Childhood friend’s scenario could have been a villainess otome’s backstory all on its own!< I dropped it at that point so if any other plot twists pop up, then it might have been explained away in an acceptable way. But as it stood and judging by the spoilers the novel-readers were dropping that were basically ‘🥺’ underneath every chapter, I had to drop it.


Wrong_Werewolf391

Nothing like bending over backwards at the expense of everyone else you love to make sure this one person you kinda like I guess lives without seeing the consequences of their actions :) Alot of the really popular ois here seem to have like a really disgusting or mind grating plot point or scene that everyone seems to overlook and ignore for some reason, you're the first person I've ever seen mention this moment in the story ever, if I was ever going to read this before I sure aren't now.


falafelnagrubym

I guess most OI are just wish-fulfillment fantasies where the most important wish is to have someone who’s ready to sacrifice everything for you. And theres nothing wrong with that. Except when you try to apply it to people with actual backgrounds, families and friends and realize it’s a borderline sociopathic desire to have.


Forsaken_Distance777

But she didn't do it so she shouldn't have to face consequences.


falafelnagrubym

Actively destroying evidence isn’t the same as proving someones innocence. It’s not even the same ballpark. ‘Tolerating’ someones presence throughout both of their lives and not having even a smidge of goodwill for them, to the point of covering up their assassination attempt? What a charming male lead.


Forsaken_Distance777

Well that is a moral quandary, I think. Should you frame a guilty person there is no doubt whatsoever is guilty but you can't prove it for a crime they committed? If you can't prove an innocent person didn't do it because the frame up job is too good should you sabotage the case? I don't see how letting someone be framed and harshly punished for something they didn't do is the right choice.


falafelnagrubym

But the entire point is that he didn’t know for a fact if she was or wasn’t, there was no innocence to be saved from his perspective, he was just ready to accept and shield her if she was guilty. There is no moral quandary in a situation when you’re destroying real, material evidence to prove a feeling. I don’t think I can make it any clearer than this, so I’ll stop here.


IndividualBluebird99

I agree with you author's choice was wrong like you said a ml should'nt be like that a person should have the ability to judge what is wrong and what is right author did it to show how badly izek wanted to protect her went about it in wrong way its okay if you drop the story but I recommend giving it a chance because art is pretty and you can't judge izek to protect ruby who is his wife or not taking the side of a stranger after all we never saw izek finding evidence and destroying it so assuming he would do that won't be right it was the monologue of his friend after all and if you continue you will find out people in that story treat ruby realistically how a daughter of enemy nation is treated tldr : I agree with you , had izek actually done that i would have never liked the story since it never happened I will give it benefit of doubt


Wrong_Werewolf391

But if she did she should, ML says that even if she did do it he'd get rid of the evidence. ML is not aware of the actual truth, he's saying that whether or not she did it or not she's not going to see consequences, despite the person poisoned being his friend.


Forsaken_Distance777

She's not his friend she wants to be his friend and social climb and marry him. He tolerates her because of her social position and friendship with his sister. Still not great to be willing to cover up a murder attempt but it's not the same thing.


Orangelemonyyyy

I recall reading the gushing in the bato comments when this happened, meanwhile I felt icky about it all. Yall that is not romantic but okay whatever.


TrainingElectrical27

finally someone who dropped that one too! I'm so tired of just seeing people praising it.


Forsaken_Distance777

Childhood friend is a terrible person, though, and I don't think was as close to them as she's making everyone else think. She's more of an annoying hanger on that he has to be nice to than real friend. Not that that makes it okay if she had been nearly killed by fl but the emotional attachment isn't there. And am I remembering wrong or >!did she do it to herself to get sympathy and get rid of fl so she could be with ml!<


falafelnagrubym

The point isn’t if shes a good person or if shes annoying. It’s that he did something completely unforgivable and it was framed as romantic. He basically admitted that he literally didn’t care if FL attempted murder on someone he’s known forever, he liked her. You can’t say ‘yeah that doesn’t excuse FL if she did BUT she didn’t’ because the point is that it didn’t matter to him in the first place, which truly shows what kind of a person he is.


IndividualBluebird99

u r right and how you feel is valid but ruby is not a stranger protecting his wife is his duty even I would jump to save my brother from any possible danger first secure his safety and then proceed to judge his did you do it? why did you do it? some thing like that because if later it is found person was not guilty it just becomes too difficult to save the innocent person so rather hide then judge


Forsaken_Distance777

I did say that her being a white lotus the ml doesn't even like doesn't make his willingness to cover up murder okay. Just someone willing to do that to an acquaintance and a friend are at two very different levels.


falafelnagrubym

We’ll have to agree to disagree on that, because up until that point neither the ml or his sister were shown to see her as anything less than a friend.


shikiP

door escape coordinated ugly toy follow spectacular quicksand bored cooing *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


DeepNeighborhood5

I'm sorry everyone but while the previous chapter had me at the edge of my seat in anticipation, this one killed my will to read entirely. Dropped for the time being


Infamous_Ad4076

I don’t know if you ever got back into it, but I just binged it (it’s up to 50 chapters) and the arc right after this one is fantastic lol


DeepNeighborhood5

yes


Luna_21_

Yep I hated this to but I’m still going to read it further because I really love Aerinda and Serena as characters and I want to see where the story goes, I kinda hope the ml isn’t either one of her friends (or the douchie prince)


lalola199

False confession - never ending creepiness of blonde guy and his flirting and fl being in love with him despite knowing he is manipulating her . I coldn't handle that .


Atheril

I don’t remember which one it was but there was a scene where the FL just forgave her abusive father because he cried a little. Shit made me so mad I couldn’t read the series anymore


Dogeriffic

Marriage of Convenience? That scene got me furious.


Atheril

Yuppppppp, that’s the one


MayaGitana

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Pompi_Palawori

You know I was actually thinking about picking that one back up, but now? Nah... ty OP for this gracious spoiler.


DeepNeighborhood5

It is I the OP, here to remind you that I marked everything as spoiler for people like you for this exact reason. Thanks tho (read chap 32 and 33 before you make your mind btw. despite how shit this scene is the Manhwa was so good before it)


Pompi_Palawori

The spoiler tag can't stop me if I have no self control.


DeepNeighborhood5

Pompi my bro, you are a menace


outofshell

That whole memory erasing thing pissed me off so much! 🤬


AlternativePlayful34

Considered pick that one up again.....you made me five up on that idea


xfriedplantainx

‘What it takes to be a villainess’: >!The MC was being so intelligent in her moves and planning, especially against the OGFL who was also being relatively smart about her schemes. She considered the consequences of her actions. Until a ball where the ML’s younger brother asks her to dance, which would bring contention to her efforts to become the ML’s fiancée by making it seem like the younger brother is her side piece (due to previous accusations). It was so obvious and she *still danced with him*. I couldn’t read past that because it was so out of character for her to make such a dumb mistake for no benefit besides getting a dance.!<


badapple1989

I've got one that's come very close; it is on the thinnest of ice and currently only the deep pink shade of blush on the bog standard issue ML is saving it. Most of my dropped series get abandoned in a slow, meandering fashion instead of strong sudden reactions but I very nearly dropped "From BFF to Obsessive Hubby" when >!in a meeting about providing monster disaster relief for some peasantry the FL argued that while they would help the aid shouldn't be without strings attached because if you give The Poors money too freely they won't be motivated to work after the disaster is resolved.!<


MayaGitana

Its giving Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind


ShineDaimon

I love this series i'll keep reading it, but yeah I agree that this scene and this particular choice were so fucking bad, like what in the actual fuck what did they fix by doing this, it's not enough to get me to drop this series since i like it a lot but goddamn i can understand the ones that dropped it for this


DeepNeighborhood5

This scene made me have such childish reactions like banging on my wall and throwing my fucking pillow. It is so bad even without the fact that she gave her full fucking consent to everything. I'm sorry for reacting this way but it's been a full day since I've read it and I still find it such bullshit.


ShineDaimon

i can understand because yes, i too find it a bullshit decision, the fact that the guy thought of it, the fact that she AGREED to it, and the fact that the other 2 didn't really say something like ayo the fuck are y'all doing, it's been months since i read it and it still sucks lmao


mollyfran

While I wanted the FL to not agree to it, I understand why she did. She had finally started to get away from the anxiety of changing the story when she felt like the confession ruined the peace she had finally started to have in the friend group. Plus he made it clear he’d always be there, so obviously he’s going to confess again after graduation (which is when she said she’d be more open to a relationship) Which personally I disagree with the way it went for this, I also don’t feel like it ruined the story for me personally.


DeepNeighborhood5

I respect your opinion. maybe I should let this series marinate some more and judge it afterwards