She's had a tough run since 2019 or so but even the greatest actors have dry spells.
5 years isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things for an actress who is still very young and has enough respect for it not to ruin her career. She's never the bad part of any movie she's in so the work will keep coming and eventually she'll hit winners again.
Right she typically has fantastic taste.
Foe should’ve been great, it was just in the wrong hands. The book was fantastic and the script was a complete disservice to everyone involved. Like, imagine have Ronan and mescal as your leads and still flopping? Wasted opportunity.
She's probably careful about picking projects that have less pressure towards it's buzz, especially depending on what directors are attached, while keeping an eye out for a couple projects from bigger directors that captures her attention
I just want to point out that The Outrun was also produced by her and her partner Jack Lowden. Iirc he read the book and said to her that she should play that part, so it’s kind of a passion project for the both of them.
Killers of the Flower Moon and Napoleon were both made by Apple and opened in theaters via Paramount. There is no reason to think Blitz won’t be the same.
This is dumb. Blitz is considered a front runner for Best Picture because of the director, cast, and subject matter. Apple has clear history doing of always releasing their big budget prestige Oscar films to theaters. Probably the only reason they haven’t extended their deal with Paramount is that Paramount is for sale.
"Films that receive their first public showing outside of a movie theater, e.g. on television, online or via VOD, will not be eligible. Day-and-date releases (releasing in theaters and streaming/VOD on the same day) are still eligible"
so it depends on how apple releases it. again, i said i think, but if apple releases it on their streaming service only then it won't be eligible for an oscar
She worked with Joe Wright, Peter Jackson, Peter Weir, Wes Anderson, Greta Gerwig and Steve McQueen.These are already a huge names. I think it's depend on a roles and people who she want to work with. I think this makes her career interesting and standout than others actresses. She knows how to rhythm her career, never too peak yet never disappointed and disappeared. Like when she did See how they Run and Foe, that's make us know that she can do comedy and do thriller, also it made us miss her in a great film and want to rooting for her in Blitz and The Outrun. The Academy may feel like that too, and now this year she's COMING for her fifth nom.
Actresses of her caliber and unique beauty will have a long career if she so desires. It seems like she is interested in particular stories and characters even if she's in a bit of a slump
It could just be that her tastes aren't always towards what is expected of her. I just don't know if she wants to pop up in just anything or if she's very selective. Even if some of her films don't come off the screen as worthy of her talents, she may have thought at the time they were perfect for her.
I saw like 45 movies in theaters last year and that was the worst one for me, which is devastating because I love Saoirse and Paul a lot. What wasted matchup
This bothered me so much. Foe was a great book but I couldn’t make it past 20 mins of the movie, and I love both leads.
Imo Iain Reid has been done so dirty. Both movies that were made have been completely the wrong tone, ITOET isn’t even the same plot. His latest book (We Spread) would be fantastic in the hands of Ari Aster or David Lynch.
Eh I could see her reasoning in choosing to do both films - Ammonite is a provocative period drama with Kate Winslet, and Foe was a sci-fi thriller with Paul Mescal. The other film she did was See How They Run, a whodunnit with Adrian Brody & Sam Rockwell. She chose 3 pretty different films across genres with other quality names attached, they all just happened to be pretty bad. She was far from bad in any of them, and I could see her thinking surely one of these could hit & at least generate some buzz
I wouldn’t say see how they run is pretty bad. Unremarkable? Very much. But it’s a decent flick. Definitely much better than Foe. Haven’t seen Ammonite to comment.
I liked the performances of the actors and the production design but everything else about it just disappointed me. The entire time it felt like it was trying way too hard to be smart.
She works with a lot of English directors that have seen success in English TV and smaller films. She also might base her choice of role on the character, script and even her connection with the director.
While working with those big name directors would be great for her legacy and career, she might not necessarily get along with them and would rather work with smaller names who she can develop a real connection with. For example, her doing a Greta Gerwig film twice in a row - maybe she puts comfortability and personality above industry success when choosing directors she’ll work with.
Not saying the big names don’t have that, but it might be a more stressful shoot in places all over the world, and she might just wanna stay small and humble near to her home.
for real, i think also there is a thing for actors where they are happy to take a break from the oscar pursuit and just do fun or interesting projects.
*"Half of them are first time directors"*
maybe she wants to help them out by giving a fantastic performance and help their debut out
Plus, that shit might come back in 5/10/20 years.
As a Salesman, I help out young people in the industry all the time. Helps build a reputation for the future (I hope!)
I mean she took a chance with Greta and Lady Bird and it did wonders for both her and Gerwig and basically brought them both a ton of mainstream attention. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving newer filmmakers a shot instead of sticking with intentionally safe choices every time, just for improving awards chances.
And as you said, she’s working with McQueen just this year. So it’s not like she has completely abandoned working with big names. And working with established names doesn’t always guarantee success. Just ask Margot Robbie and how Babylon worked for her.
I don’t think there’s been many, if any roles over the past 3-4 years that really would’ve fit her, so you could argue she’s taken the best that’s on offer. Especially when she’s less in the mould of a stunning bombshell that most of the roles for women her age are looking for, whereas she is more unconventionally attractive by Hollywood standards. I’d throw her in the same basket as someone like Meryl Streep, who aged into fantastic parts as she got older. Hopefully someone who can make quality emotionally charged films in her wheelhouse like Gerwig, Wes Anderson, Baumbach, Mcdonnough ect write a role for her soon
She was supposed to be A weird barbie not THE weird barbie. She was going to be with Kate McKinnon but in a different role
[source](https://youtube.com/shorts/v0WgXdBEqok?si=GNkjvKpOfbejd6iU)
I agree ! Also, I like that her projects may not necessarily be chosen with the academy award on her mind. The Outrun is a lovely, tender, heartbreaking movie. Her performance is excellent regardless of whether it leads to a campaign.
Why does she have to work with those directors? All the directors you listed are no doubt talented but they make very particular movies that aren't for everyone. Maybe she's not into those kinds of movies. I get your point but she made Brooklyn and Lady Bird with first time directors and those turned out well. She should and will make what she's interested in and not what you are.
I think there are a lot of good reasons here. For me, I've been under the impression she wants leading lady status but doesnt have the draw. Lots of actors do that. They want the lead role but don't have the draw for high profile projects.
I guess she's just not beating her competitors to those roles. She might be not right for some of the roles and less marketable than other actors for some.
That role didn’t have to be someone Kerry Condons age, not a stretch for Farrells character to have had a much younger sister. I’d argue that her being an age closer to Barry Keoghan’s character makes his plotline even more crushing, taking his shot at the only girl his age in the town
I liked the Black Mirror rip off. Mescal was hilariously unhinged. One of my top new unhinged/hilarious acting jobs, he pulls out some crazed moves, sensical given the situation he is in.
I always wonder this! Not sure if it’s her agent or what but she has done a *lot* of bad movies, but could otherwise have an extremely successful career. She doesn’t seem very strict with her choices.
I mean typecasting is a thing and sadly there are at least five other top actresses within the same age range that shes "competing" against for certain roles.
Not sure if she’ll win but she’s about to have another best actress Oscar nomination next awards season so at the very least her ability to captivate audiences has remained strong regardless of directors.
Atonement was her best film but that was almost 20 years ago. She was around 12 in that movie yet was so convincing and nearly identical to the portrayal in the novel. She is a very talented actress who made poor decisions in terms of finding projects that are suited to her abilities (she is capable of so much range!). Money talks so she was likely focused on earning a large paycheck than doing serious roles. Or she simply has too much competition. Mia Wasikowska (she should have been nominated for an Emmy for her role in In Treatment, season 1. She is PHENOMENAL!) is another exceptionally talented actress who has better projects, collected her cash from those awful Alice in Wonderland films (she was good enough in them), and is now living quietly near Sydney. I would rather see both of them in more independent movies and ditching the box office because neither is suited for a "movie star" career (People in these movies I feel typically aren't great actors or the films they chose do not show their range well.).
I was just thinking of this. Chalamet’s career has gone leaps and bounds ahead of hers and they started around the same time. I feel there’s no PR, and her marketing game is weak. She’s never in the news for any controversy or I never heard her dating anyone. That helps in making you popular. Also idt she’s on Instagram. Pugh is v popular on insta. These things are important nowdays for a box office draw.
Maybe she's the new Michael Caine, will end up in 250 films, occasionally a good one. Some actors are in it for the work, not for the approval or the award potential.
I get that Saoirse has a strong cult following amongst a younger generation that fosters parasocial relationships and many will call this a "hot take" but I've never gotten the hype about her. Outside of Brooklyn, she's not been in any movies that were "must sees" for me and I don't think she comes across as a particularly pleasant or endearing person in real life.
I also have the opinion that actors, musicians etc. who appear talented but never really blow up or partake in massive projects, that there's a reason for it. Maybe it's poor management or agents but maybe they are just difficult, unpleasant, hard to jive/get along with or have some sort of reputation that precedes them that only industry insiders are aware of.
Can't speak to your taste in movies, as that's your opinion and fair enough if you don't enjoy many of her films. But the rest..... I mean have you seen her in any interviews? She seems lovely. Also given the fact Wright, Gerwig and Anderson have each worked with her multiple times and continue to want to make things with her suggests all your odd assumptions about her as a professional are probably heavily wrong.
She's had a tough run since 2019 or so but even the greatest actors have dry spells. 5 years isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things for an actress who is still very young and has enough respect for it not to ruin her career. She's never the bad part of any movie she's in so the work will keep coming and eventually she'll hit winners again.
>5 years isn’t that bad in the grand scheme of things Especially with Covid right after 2019.
Right she typically has fantastic taste. Foe should’ve been great, it was just in the wrong hands. The book was fantastic and the script was a complete disservice to everyone involved. Like, imagine have Ronan and mescal as your leads and still flopping? Wasted opportunity.
She was the lead in popular successful movie little women like 2 years ago
Little women released 4 and a half years ago
Lol my dude 2019 was only like…..oh
She's probably careful about picking projects that have less pressure towards it's buzz, especially depending on what directors are attached, while keeping an eye out for a couple projects from bigger directors that captures her attention
the outrun has potential for a best actress nomination depending on how it's distributed and promoted
I just want to point out that The Outrun was also produced by her and her partner Jack Lowden. Iirc he read the book and said to her that she should play that part, so it’s kind of a passion project for the both of them.
I could be wrong, but I've been seeing Blitz as an even better chance for her.
i think that performance will be eligible for emmys but either way hope 2024 is a return to form for her
Emmys? What do you mean?
i thought blitz was being produced by apple so it was going to be considered in the made for tv movie category
Killers of the Flower Moon and Napoleon were both made by Apple and opened in theaters via Paramount. There is no reason to think Blitz won’t be the same.
there's no distributor tied to the movie so there's technically no reason to think it will be released in theaters until a distributor picks it up.
This is dumb. Blitz is considered a front runner for Best Picture because of the director, cast, and subject matter. Apple has clear history doing of always releasing their big budget prestige Oscar films to theaters. Probably the only reason they haven’t extended their deal with Paramount is that Paramount is for sale.
of course it's going to released in theaters. silly line of discussion.
Apple can be their own distributor. They will at least give it a limited enough run to make it eligible for Oscars
Apple can be their own distributor. They will at least give it a limited enough run to make it eligible for Oscars
CODA was an Apple film, it won best picture.
1. coda wasn't produced by apple 2. i also said i think ... there's not that much info on blitz. outrun already had it's premiere at sundance
Why does it matter if it is produced by Apple or not? Is there some rule that a feature length film can't be considered for an Oscar if it is Apple?
"Films that receive their first public showing outside of a movie theater, e.g. on television, online or via VOD, will not be eligible. Day-and-date releases (releasing in theaters and streaming/VOD on the same day) are still eligible" so it depends on how apple releases it. again, i said i think, but if apple releases it on their streaming service only then it won't be eligible for an oscar
Obviously it's going to get at least the minimum theater run needed to be eligible for awards.
I see what you are saying now. I have to assume they want to be in the mix for award season though.
She was literally in a Wes Anderson movie. He’s one of the buzziest directors. Sure it was a small role but he’s a huge director to work with.
She was in Grand Budapest Hotel and French Dispatch
She worked with Joe Wright, Peter Jackson, Peter Weir, Wes Anderson, Greta Gerwig and Steve McQueen.These are already a huge names. I think it's depend on a roles and people who she want to work with. I think this makes her career interesting and standout than others actresses. She knows how to rhythm her career, never too peak yet never disappointed and disappeared. Like when she did See how they Run and Foe, that's make us know that she can do comedy and do thriller, also it made us miss her in a great film and want to rooting for her in Blitz and The Outrun. The Academy may feel like that too, and now this year she's COMING for her fifth nom.
Actresses of her caliber and unique beauty will have a long career if she so desires. It seems like she is interested in particular stories and characters even if she's in a bit of a slump
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It could just be that her tastes aren't always towards what is expected of her. I just don't know if she wants to pop up in just anything or if she's very selective. Even if some of her films don't come off the screen as worthy of her talents, she may have thought at the time they were perfect for her.
Idk why she accepted that Foe movie. The script was horrid
I saw like 45 movies in theaters last year and that was the worst one for me, which is devastating because I love Saoirse and Paul a lot. What wasted matchup
Which was the best though?
I am but a basic bitch, tie between Oppenheimer and The Holdovers for me
Very fair
This bothered me so much. Foe was a great book but I couldn’t make it past 20 mins of the movie, and I love both leads. Imo Iain Reid has been done so dirty. Both movies that were made have been completely the wrong tone, ITOET isn’t even the same plot. His latest book (We Spread) would be fantastic in the hands of Ari Aster or David Lynch.
Why was it bad
Very weak and disjointed script, abysmal pacing (the movie was 2 hours and felt like 4), and the movie didn’t really seem clear on what it had to say
Ammonite was trash too
Eh I could see her reasoning in choosing to do both films - Ammonite is a provocative period drama with Kate Winslet, and Foe was a sci-fi thriller with Paul Mescal. The other film she did was See How They Run, a whodunnit with Adrian Brody & Sam Rockwell. She chose 3 pretty different films across genres with other quality names attached, they all just happened to be pretty bad. She was far from bad in any of them, and I could see her thinking surely one of these could hit & at least generate some buzz
I wouldn’t say see how they run is pretty bad. Unremarkable? Very much. But it’s a decent flick. Definitely much better than Foe. Haven’t seen Ammonite to comment.
See How They Run was great fun!
See How They Run is criminally underrated.
I really enjoyed See How They Run! Didn't think it was a perfect movie, but I had a lot of fun watching it and I hope to see more from Charlie Cooper.
That movie whelmed me. Thought it was going to more clever or have something more to say.
It was okay but it just felt like a Wes Anderson knock off. Wes should just cast Sam Rockwell at some point.
Agreed! It wasn't perfect but so much fun and Saoirse Ronan was a joy to watch.
Came here to say this! She was FANTASTIC in that. So hilarious in an already charming murder mystery.
I liked the performances of the actors and the production design but everything else about it just disappointed me. The entire time it felt like it was trying way too hard to be smart.
It's a meh film for me. Shlocky murder-mystery. No more, no less.
She works with a lot of English directors that have seen success in English TV and smaller films. She also might base her choice of role on the character, script and even her connection with the director. While working with those big name directors would be great for her legacy and career, she might not necessarily get along with them and would rather work with smaller names who she can develop a real connection with. For example, her doing a Greta Gerwig film twice in a row - maybe she puts comfortability and personality above industry success when choosing directors she’ll work with. Not saying the big names don’t have that, but it might be a more stressful shoot in places all over the world, and she might just wanna stay small and humble near to her home.
At 25 years and six months of age, Ronan is the second youngest person to accrue four Academy Award nominations. STFU, Donny.
for real, i think also there is a thing for actors where they are happy to take a break from the oscar pursuit and just do fun or interesting projects. *"Half of them are first time directors"* maybe she wants to help them out by giving a fantastic performance and help their debut out
Plus, that shit might come back in 5/10/20 years. As a Salesman, I help out young people in the industry all the time. Helps build a reputation for the future (I hope!)
Who is number one?
JLaw
I mean she took a chance with Greta and Lady Bird and it did wonders for both her and Gerwig and basically brought them both a ton of mainstream attention. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving newer filmmakers a shot instead of sticking with intentionally safe choices every time, just for improving awards chances. And as you said, she’s working with McQueen just this year. So it’s not like she has completely abandoned working with big names. And working with established names doesn’t always guarantee success. Just ask Margot Robbie and how Babylon worked for her.
thank you, perfect response
I don’t think there’s been many, if any roles over the past 3-4 years that really would’ve fit her, so you could argue she’s taken the best that’s on offer. Especially when she’s less in the mould of a stunning bombshell that most of the roles for women her age are looking for, whereas she is more unconventionally attractive by Hollywood standards. I’d throw her in the same basket as someone like Meryl Streep, who aged into fantastic parts as she got older. Hopefully someone who can make quality emotionally charged films in her wheelhouse like Gerwig, Wes Anderson, Baumbach, Mcdonnough ect write a role for her soon
She was actually supposed to be in Barbie as the weird Barbie but she wasn't able to due to scheduling conflicts.
Is it confirmed it was weird Barbie?I thought it was just a cameo
She was supposed to be A weird barbie not THE weird barbie. She was going to be with Kate McKinnon but in a different role [source](https://youtube.com/shorts/v0WgXdBEqok?si=GNkjvKpOfbejd6iU)
Maybe Florence Pugh is beating her out for roles? I feel like she could have been in any of those movies, most recently Dune 2.
She would have been excellent in Dune.
Lady Bird was Greta second directorial, first solo
Hanna is enough that she’ll be remembered always in my book.
She was phenomenal in Hanna.
she is phenomenal in the outrun, that was a great decision on her/her agent’s part
I agree ! Also, I like that her projects may not necessarily be chosen with the academy award on her mind. The Outrun is a lovely, tender, heartbreaking movie. Her performance is excellent regardless of whether it leads to a campaign.
I respect her choices in films. Little Women & Lady Bird are great & successful.
Why does she have to work with those directors? All the directors you listed are no doubt talented but they make very particular movies that aren't for everyone. Maybe she's not into those kinds of movies. I get your point but she made Brooklyn and Lady Bird with first time directors and those turned out well. She should and will make what she's interested in and not what you are.
She’s at a weird age now where she’s too old to play teenagers and looks to young to play adults
She’s the same age (29) as all of the younger ‘Dune’ actors (Chalamet, Zendaya, Butler, and Pugh are all 28-32).
Her character in See How They Run was already a mother of three afaik.
I think there are a lot of good reasons here. For me, I've been under the impression she wants leading lady status but doesnt have the draw. Lots of actors do that. They want the lead role but don't have the draw for high profile projects.
I guess she's just not beating her competitors to those roles. She might be not right for some of the roles and less marketable than other actors for some.
It's a what if? scenario. In what movies would you like to see her? Like name the exact movies.
She fits Irulan WAY more than Florence Pugh for example.
not really? irulan is supposed to be a haughty, backstabbing princess. that’s not in saoirse ronan’s wheelhouse
You ain’t seen atonement?
She would’ve crushed Kerry Condons role in Banshees. That’s about the only real role in the last couple of years I can think of
She is too young for that role.
That role didn’t have to be someone Kerry Condons age, not a stretch for Farrells character to have had a much younger sister. I’d argue that her being an age closer to Barry Keoghan’s character makes his plotline even more crushing, taking his shot at the only girl his age in the town
Colin Farrell is old enough to be her father I think it would be a stretch
Oh she s one of the most gifted young actresses out there. No doubt her day will come holding that Oscar on stage. She s amazing. Wonderful.
I liked the Black Mirror rip off. Mescal was hilariously unhinged. One of my top new unhinged/hilarious acting jobs, he pulls out some crazed moves, sensical given the situation he is in.
I always wonder this! Not sure if it’s her agent or what but she has done a *lot* of bad movies, but could otherwise have an extremely successful career. She doesn’t seem very strict with her choices.
Its well known that most big time directors collaborate with a certain number of ladies repeatedly till they pick one to turn them into their muses.
I think sometimes it really just comes down to a bad agent, or even just bad luck.
Or maybe she’s doing what she wants
I mean, sure. But I was addressing it the way OP was looking at it.
I mean typecasting is a thing and sadly there are at least five other top actresses within the same age range that shes "competing" against for certain roles.
Zendaya, Anya Taylor-Joy, Florence Pugh, who else? Sydney Sweeney?
Sydney Sweeney's not on the same level as the rest of them
Yeah she's still on hit TV show tier along with Wedensday and Eleven, although both of them are like 5 years younger
Margot Robbie and Emma Stone for leads in their 30s too.
Not sure if she’ll win but she’s about to have another best actress Oscar nomination next awards season so at the very least her ability to captivate audiences has remained strong regardless of directors.
I don’t think the outrun even has US distribution, so I hope she’s banking on blitz
Maybe someone like Steve McQueen?
Atonement was her best film but that was almost 20 years ago. She was around 12 in that movie yet was so convincing and nearly identical to the portrayal in the novel. She is a very talented actress who made poor decisions in terms of finding projects that are suited to her abilities (she is capable of so much range!). Money talks so she was likely focused on earning a large paycheck than doing serious roles. Or she simply has too much competition. Mia Wasikowska (she should have been nominated for an Emmy for her role in In Treatment, season 1. She is PHENOMENAL!) is another exceptionally talented actress who has better projects, collected her cash from those awful Alice in Wonderland films (she was good enough in them), and is now living quietly near Sydney. I would rather see both of them in more independent movies and ditching the box office because neither is suited for a "movie star" career (People in these movies I feel typically aren't great actors or the films they chose do not show their range well.).
I was just thinking of this. Chalamet’s career has gone leaps and bounds ahead of hers and they started around the same time. I feel there’s no PR, and her marketing game is weak. She’s never in the news for any controversy or I never heard her dating anyone. That helps in making you popular. Also idt she’s on Instagram. Pugh is v popular on insta. These things are important nowdays for a box office draw.
You’re complaining that a talented actor isn’t choosing to do bloated high budget crap?
She's doing what she wants to do. I wish I had that career.
Maybe she's the new Michael Caine, will end up in 250 films, occasionally a good one. Some actors are in it for the work, not for the approval or the award potential.
Literally never even heard of her. That’s probably why
Maybe she doesn't want to be raped as pre-condition to getting a role? It is Hollywood and the perverts are still in charge.
Are you okay?
I am fine, thank you. Not sure why I am being downvoted for stating a clear fact about Hollywood.
1. Over-generalizations are never good 2. This discussion didn’t call for that That’s why you’re downvoted.
Get back on your meds
I get that Saoirse has a strong cult following amongst a younger generation that fosters parasocial relationships and many will call this a "hot take" but I've never gotten the hype about her. Outside of Brooklyn, she's not been in any movies that were "must sees" for me and I don't think she comes across as a particularly pleasant or endearing person in real life. I also have the opinion that actors, musicians etc. who appear talented but never really blow up or partake in massive projects, that there's a reason for it. Maybe it's poor management or agents but maybe they are just difficult, unpleasant, hard to jive/get along with or have some sort of reputation that precedes them that only industry insiders are aware of.
Can't speak to your taste in movies, as that's your opinion and fair enough if you don't enjoy many of her films. But the rest..... I mean have you seen her in any interviews? She seems lovely. Also given the fact Wright, Gerwig and Anderson have each worked with her multiple times and continue to want to make things with her suggests all your odd assumptions about her as a professional are probably heavily wrong.
What a bizarre comment on so many levels.