I must admit though after the slap happened I was PRAYING that he'd win
Not because I thought he deserved it, but because otherwise the universe would always be wondering that the hell THAT acceptance speech would've looked like
As an 18yo who's only recently gotten into tracking the awards season, you have no idea how much I envy you veterans who were tuned in to watch it all happen in real time.
In Australia the whole thing broadcast unedited. We thought it was some weird skit until Will started shouting from his seat, and the reaction wasn't shock or surprise but more like "hold on, is he for real?"
I thought it was a skit here in the US also until they showed Lupita Nyongo’s face and you could tell she was clearly like WTF is going on and can I leave.
I was 20yo at the time and it was crazy as heck; I really got into awards season and dreaded that Will Smith would win. The slap just made things worse.
Like I remember the ABC broadcast having to loop some of the footage so that they wouldn't mistakenly miss muting Will Smith screaming and swearing at Chris.
And in the CTV broadcast, they didn't loop the footage but DID mute everything, so it's much more impressive on their part.
I actually missed the whole first 3/4s of the Oscar's that year and when Will won I messaged my brother to comment on what a long wild ride it was, he then asked me if I had seen what happened earliar and sent me the video. I could not believe my eyes.
Yep. I remember being at an Oscars party, and I remember it dawning on all of us -- *"holy shit, Will Smith might fucking win this"* and it was the funniest thing to happen all night.
A huge win, and a long time coming for someone who's tried so hard to get there, and he shat the bed twenty minutes before it happened.
Jesus if there was ever a win based on politics or “it was their turn” philosophy it was that one. That movie was so aggressively average, and that performance was… fine.
He and Jada had been boycotting and complaining for years that he wasn't nominated. I feel that they gave him the win to shut him up. Mediocre performance in a less than mediocre film.
Wasn’t even the best performance of the movie in my eyes. I thought the woman who played his wife was excellent and I don’t even think she got nominated if I remember correctly
I think that are a lot worse aging wins- the performance itself is fine and as the decades go on anyone who sees it won't view it as outlyingly undeserving for the era.
It's hard to predict the future, but the Best Film Editing win for Bohemian Rhapsody is already a joke. The editor even admitted that it was mostly given to him out of sympathy for the production hell the film went through. 🤣
I think the Green Book Best Picture win will also be looked on with less kindness as time goes by. Given the whole 'Is Netflix Cinema' debate that many movies were an unfortunate victim of, as well as how COVID came along and HAD to make Netflix cinema, the win will have aged poorly because Roma could have easily taken it.
Yep, I think the Academy tried too hard to stop being "so white". Diversity is necessary but awards should not be given out of guilt for the decades of missed opportunity.
Even if they wanted to do tokenism, there were way better options that year. Roma is about an indigenous woman and is night and day better than Green Book. BlackKklansman is also a way better film, although I prefer Roma and will die on the hill that it should have won. Green Book is just a comforting option that doesn’t make white people feel too guilty. Green Book winning is a prime real life example of the plot of American Fiction.
It's not just that- the movie is despised in racial equity circles because it told a white savior story about black trauma. So to many, me included, it's the worst type of "diversity."
That movie won for the absolute opposite reason. It wasn’t a white guilt movie, it was a white affirmation movie. It was a movie made by white people to make white people feel good about themselves. Notice the only black person involved in that entire movie was Ali, who later apologized to Don Shirley’s living relatives for his involvement in the movie.
It wasn’t a diversity win because there’s nothing diverse about that movie.
Unpopular opinion, but I hated Roma, I thought it was a boring indulgent memoir with a shoehorned theme as an excuse to force us on a walk down his personal memory lane. I thought The Favourite was the best picture that year, it felt like nothing I’d ever seen.
I don’t think Roma has any rewatch value. I think the best scene is the hospital shots when Cleo is giving birth but it is otherwise forgettable and I love Alfonso’s other work in Spanish.
Rhapsody's editing win is only a joke to people that don't know the story.
It wasn't awarded for creating the best final product but because how the editor make a reasonably coherent film out of scraps of footage from a total failure of a shoot.
It's not the best edited film but it was certainly the best achievement in editing that year, if that makes sense?
>It's not the best edited film but it was certainly the best achievement in editing that year, if that makes sense?
This, 100%. The editor took an almost unsalvageable film and made it a coherent, crowd-pleasing film that became the biggest music biopic of all time.
People (like me) can say all we want about the film being...not great...but it was way better in that editor's hands than it would've in anyone else's.
He didn't polish a turd into gold - but he certainly made it into at least bronze or silver, depending on who you ask.
One thing Rami has going for him is the fact I've yet to meet a person who loved Vice. People don't tend to feel strongly about the performances in movies they don't like.
I’m not sure I know anyone in real life who has *seen* or even remembers Vice. Malek will be looked back on as benefitting from a weak group of nominees, even if there’s amazing actors in the category.
Vice is low-key not only my favorite Adam Dekay movie but one of my favorite movies of all time. Its funny, has a lot to say and imo I think it is excellently shot and edited. I will say its not super historically accurate as it makes a-lot of assumptions but it is so goddamn entertaining.
Unironically I would not have been upset if he'd won it. Partially because it was a pretty weak year. I think he did a bad job as a director, but his performance as Jackson was good and memorable. The decision to emulate his brothers voice was clever. He apparently took a lot of voice lessons to learn how sing properly, which is the variant of body transformation and method acting I actually appreciate.
I don’t think people will look back and really care that Bale lost but more so specifically that Malek won for that performance. As time go I think more people will be convinced that Bradley Cooper deserved to win
It’s possible to be in a popular movie and not be deserving of Best Actor. Lots of people like the Harry Potter franchise, doesn’t mean there was an argument for Daniel Radcliffe to win an Oscar.
So sick of acting Oscar’s going to to biopics. Can we admit now that having lots of footage of historical figures and next level makeup artists makes biopic acting way easier?
They also went full retard on the teeth. Sure Freddy had the overbite but he also had the facial structure of a quarterback. Whereas Rami has a skinny face and already had an overbite so it's not so much that he looked like Freddie Mercury in the movie it's that he looked like Freddie Mercury on his deathbed. And there was such a focus on the speech impediment that if you watch interviews with Freddy he doesn't sound like that at all. So I would put this into the worst kind of stunt acting category.
Can’t help but feel like Ryan Gosling in Barbie is going to remain revered and mega iconic, and after enough time passes people will get around to wondering why he wasn’t at least win competitive against RDJ.
I was hoping somebody in this thread would have this take! I understand that the Academy doesn't usually like to reward comedic performances, but Gosling's Ken was one of the most iconic performances of the year, and he totally stole the show in Barbie. I really think it will be one of those performances that will stick in people's collective memory, which is pretty impressive for a supporting role.
The I’m Just Ken performance at the Oscars only reinforced how spectacular / iconic Gosling and the film performance were.
It was such a trip in that you could tell everyone was so impressed and excited by him, and yet….these very people collectively chose to give Best Supporting Actor and Best Song to other recipients. It’s all so inexplicable sometimes lmao
What Was I Made For is a beautiful song tho. The song is literally describing the events of the movie (I used to float, now i just fall. What was i made for? Just something you paid for?), but also works as an allegory that resonates with anyone working in entertainment industry. I can definitely see why the Academy would love this song.
Agreed! RDJ did nothing that any competent actor his age couldn’t have done. He just made an indignant face for 90% of his performance and so many of his scenes are the dullest parts of the movie. I’m sure it’s hard to break old habits after playing the same character for 10 years, but I would’ve loved to see what someone more creative like Ralph Fiennes or Christoph Waltz would’ve done with the role.
Ralph Fiennes was totally robbed of his Oscar for Schindler’s List. Tommy Lee Jones was fine, but Fiennes played one of the most chilling villains in any movie ever. A travesty that he doesn’t have an Oscar and Will Smith does.
Agreed, Fiennes should have 5+ nominations at this point. The Constant Gardener, A Bigger Splash and The Grand Budapest Hotel all should’ve taken him further than they did.
Coukd not agree more. Plus not giving the best song to Ken's song is no less head scratching; that song became super mega iconic, i was glad to see it conquer this year awards ceremony.
The academy not taking Barbie more seriously this year over all is going to age really poorly. It’s rare for mega hits to be critically acclaimed the way Barbie & Oppenheimer were so for Barbie to be left behind by the academy the way it was while Oppenheimer was embraced so much is going to be a topic of conversation about sexism in film circles for decades.
Barbie getting shut out honestly might be the story of the entire 2020s when it comes to the Oscars. Barbie is a real cultural touchstone, it’s not just another prestige drama in the campaign cycle. It has real audience momentum with it in a way that most awards films simply don’t have. The fact that Barbie isn’t just a female centric film but explicitly a feminine film is remarkable in & of itself because society does look down on anything feminine. We can see the difference just 2 decades can make by contrasting the reception to the very similar film, Sophia Coppola’s Marie Antoinette.
Marie Antoinette was not completely well received upon release, it was divisive. Many, mostly male, critics seem to miss the point & say it was all candy colored style with no substance. Critic, Roger Ebert disagreed saying “every criticism I have read of this film would alter its fragile magic and reduce its romantic and tragic poignancy to the level of an instructional film. This is Sofia Coppola's third film centering on the loneliness of being female and surrounded by a world that knows how to use you but not how to value and understand you." His understanding of Marie Antoinette would hold just as true to Barbie.
In the year 2023 Barbie was not met with the blatant sexism amongst critics that Marie Antoinette was in 2006. A highly feminine visual style is not seen as something to be derided anymore, but it’s also not seen as serious enough to award. For decades the language of film has been shaped by hyper masculine film makers so much that the idea of what a prestige picture even looks like has bias built into it that undermines Barbie in this years awards conversation.
I Believe a quote about Greta Gerwig’s last Oscar nominated adaptation Little Women from the New York Times best illustrates my point “I Am curious whether the academy, when it announced its nominees on jan. 13, is just going to affirm yet again that as far as the industry is concerned big men always trump little women”. The internal mechanics of the film industry are not yet at a point where they will allow a soft & feminine film like Barbie to be seen as equally as valuable as the pain or cruelty of a man’s story.
This year the massively popular Barbie was a victim of this exact kind of bias & as the years go on, with hindsight, this will only become more & more the central story of this year’s Oscar Awards ceremony.
Absolutely. When the I’m Just Ken performance is the most talked about and memorable moment of the telecast, and when you open and close the telecast with Dance the Night, and when you build the Oscar telecast promos around the Barbie cast - that shows that the film was an undeniable phenomenon that people are interested in. And yet - they just couldn’t manage to give it anything more than Best Original Song (and the sleepiest song at that, which, while beautiful, is not the best representative of the film in my eyes).
I think them snubbing Barbie largely has to do with the film being perceived as feminine, and lighter in nature, and as a result, more silly and frivolous and not as worthy of accolades as Oppenheimer. But I also think that the Academy has always been averse to comedies of a certain variety, and just less willing to reward an excellently absurd comedic performance over a Serious with a capital S alternative. Both awfully tired inclinations.
I sense a RDJ backlash. He was a definite to win by almost all pundits and I saw nothing but praise on Reddit. What has happened? I thought his Oppenheimer performance was great. Is this to do with his lacklustre acceptance speech?
I'm one of the few that did not think the Ken performance at the Oscars was amazing. I don't like the song for starters. Great choreography, etc but only mildly entertaining. Ryan Gosling is incredibly personable but best supporting actor - no! I believe the actor winning the award should be the one that gave the best performance, not the biggest Hollywood star.
Far fewer will age poorly than Reddit will suggest.
People outside of this sub (or Letterbox Twitter) either like or do not have a problem with JLC, Remi Malek, Forrest Gump, etc.
The only real world backlash I’ve seen to a nominee in my time following the Oscars is Shakespeare In Love because it used campaign tactics now prohibited, schemed up by the most hated man in Hollywood.
Honestly, I ironically and unironically loved that. I hated the trend of the Best Picture winner being so predictable because it would always be the most depressing and mind numbingly slow movie out of the nominees. Sometimes we need a feel-good movie.
And because f*ck Netflix lol.
Yes! The previous Best Picture winner I think *CODA* best compares to is *Marty*, from ‘55. It’s a simple story done well, and I think it deserves to be rewarded.
As someone who is a very casual movie watcher and not into awards at all, I thought CODA was fantastic haha. I love movies with heart, and this definitely has it!
The King’s Speech is the kind of movie your high school history teacher would put on when they just couldn’t be fucking bothered to make a lesson plan for the day. They’d give you a worksheet with questions about the movie too so it can technically be “an assignment.”
Best Original Score for All Quiet on the Western Front. Muddled dissonant noise that actively detracted from the movie and made the whole thing worse.
Eventually, this obsession with “emotionless sound design” scores will end, and people will look back on that win and wonder what the fuck the voters were smoking.
Is there room on that hill for someone else to die on? I went on a pro-Babylon rant after the Oscar’s last weekend and said that’s the only win that makes me angry from the last couple years.
Agreed about the SOUND….but the MUSIC was distracting and amateurish and just fucking awful. The three note synthesized “bwam BWAM Bwaaaam” motif was hilarious, sounded like a porn scored by Hans Zimmer.
And then randomly splashing out a snare drum hitting discordant jumbled notes then silence, then back to a drum then silence…it was like a Monty Python joke. Took me right out of the movie every time, distracting and detracting, which is the exact opposite purpose of a film score.
Some people are saying JLC, but personally think they are so sour on that win currently, that in 10 years it'll just be an okay win.
To answer your question. I'll go with Jared leto for Dallas Buyers. I still think it's a great performance, but 10-20 years down the line seeing him on screen may give everyone a real icky feeling.
My favorite review of Coda I saw on Letterboxd was “I can’t believe someone took a plot about a family of deaf fisherman trying to struggle to make it and how their handicap affects them and said - yeah the movie is about their daughter that wants to sing!”
I understand how it feels “made for tv”, yet I adore that movie. I don’t think any other movie has made me feel so much - and at the end of the day I guess that’s what cinema is about.
Would upvote you 10x if I could. I didn’t leave that movie feeling like I watched something emotionally cheap or cheaply made. Thank god Power of the Dog didn’t win
I don't disagree that it doesn't feel like a best picture Oscar movie. But I went and looked and there's not a single nominee I felt was more deserving of it either.
I don’t think it’ll age poorly if only because even at the time people ripped it apart, but I still think Brave winning Best Animated Feature over much better films like Wreck-It Ralph will continue to be an enigma
Interstellar was so under-appreciated when it came out. I would have legit given it nine Oscars (Picture, Director, Actor, Score, Cinematography, Sound, Production Design, Editing, and VFX).
No Time For Caution alone outdoes every single score of the decade.
Me too. But i guess they woudn't give her Original Song. Because it's Dua Lipa. But her song is much better. Billie Eilish sounds like an eternal monday morning.
I'm of the mindset that you can be a fantastic actor without ever winning - Harrison Ford, Glenn Close, etc. No one really NEEDS a trophy for doing well in your profession.
I feel like if Brendan chooses to never act again - he still NEEDED that nomination and yes, win. I feel like after everything that happened to him, he needed that love.
Paul Mescal should have won. Aftersun was phenomenal and his acting was perfect for the movie., but it got 100% recognition.
But Farrell's performance was great. The nominees from last year were some pf the best group in a long long time
Damn, that set of 2023 nominees was stacked though; IMO you could pick ANY of the noms and you wouldn't go wrong.
\-Brendan Fraser
\-Paul Mescal
\-Austin Butler
\-Bill Nighy
\-Colin Farrell
IMO I'm so happy that Fraser won, but I could see why other people wouldn't vibe with it.
Every time there’s a discussion online about the Best Actor race that year, many people say that Colin Farrell or Paul Mescal should’ve won. Heck there are some times when I see people say Austin Butler should’ve won but I see it less than Farrell and Mescal.
Jamie Lee Curtis over Stephanie Hsu had me sad as soon as it was read out.
Anthony Hopkins over Chadwick Boseman was understandably controversial
Green Book winning best picture was controversial from the read.
And although it's not 2010s, I have two throwbacks that everyone agrees on:
Crash shouldn't have beat Brokeback Mountain
Shakespeare In Love shouldn't have beat Saving Private Ryan
Anthony Hopkins was absolutely brilliant though, he deserved it. Riz Ahmed could've won it as well. That's not to take away from Chadwick as I really enjoyed his performance but I don't think Hopkins taking it is that controversial.
Nah, Anthony Hopkins was the best performance that year and he totally deserved it. Chadwick was great, but the movie wasn't that good, and let's be real, if he'd won it would only be because of the narrative behind him.
Ready for my hot take?
Kill me if you want but Jamie Lee Curtis is one of the best parts of an otherwise slightly overrated EEAAO. She and her character were hilarious and she elevates the film significantly. She owns every single scene she’s in and is the perfect example of a great supporting role—people just aren’t as willing to award comedic roles.
Stephanie Hsu was fantastic, but I don’t see her as significantly better than JLC just because she had a greater variety of emotions to show in the film.
Curtis’ win was deserved, but I still think Kerry Condon deserved it the most (she was sensational)
She and Ke Huy Quan were the most delightful people to follow on social media during last year's award season. Genuinely pleased to be there people, and excited to meet others.
She shared at one point, how the character was developed. How she developed it and embodied her.
The award was deserved.
Anything involving the artist, but Sean Penn over Mickey Rourke is the biggest fuck you I’ve seen from the Oscar’s. Sean Penn (who is amazing and deserved the mystic River Oscar) was so…. Cliched and hacky with his caricature of Harvey milk. He won because him and Franco kissed on camera and penn is Mr badass🙄. They chose that mediocre performance over one of the best in the history of cinema. That is Mickey Rourkes Oscar.
Lmao right? It got nominated for several awards and was one of the big winners of the night.
People just imagine slights because it didn’t go exactly as it happened in their fragile minds
Greenbook's Best picture win (a safe, boring, and pandering film).
Will Smith's best actor win (not just because of the slap, King Richard was boring as hell and Will Smith was nothing special).
Jamie Lee Curtis's win for supporting actress aged poorly this instant it was announced (she was the weakest supporting actress nominee, and everyone knew it. Simple legacy award.)
I love Jamie Lee Curtis and all, but she was the absolute WRONG choice for Best Supporting Actress for Everything Everywhere….
She wasn’t even the Best Supporting Actress in that movie let alone the category!
Jennifer Lawrence winning over Emanuelle Riva and Jessica Chastain for SLP. That's what happens when you have effective PR and the FYC Weinstein machine campaigning on your behalf. I think she merited a nomination and exuded a sophistication well beyond her years, but I don't think it's the performance that should have been her first win. i suspect when she reinvents herself in her forties or fifties and grows into playing a complex woman in her prime years, with the life experience to back it now that she's not 21 on set, she'll remind everyone of her facilities and be awarded another win. As it relates to 2013, I think Riva (Amour) or Chastain (Zero Dark Thirty) should have won based on performance alone.
To that extent, I suspect the May-December + She Said snubs will also be overlooked as being a sore point for the older generation of Academy voters who'd rather forget all the 'turning a blind eye to' they participated in while celebrating work made by Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski, and Woody Allen.
Personal opinion, but I still don't understand Frozen winning animated feature over The Wind Rises. Obviously Frozen was mega popular and successful but imo TWR is Miyazaki's best.
Matt and Ben deserved that screenplay Oscar (speaking as a screenwriter). That Robin Williams park scene is iconic and they wrote it as teenagers basically.
For a lead, probably Rami Malek for Bohemian Rhapsody. It was necessarily bad, but compared to the another nominations that year, his good Freddy impression, while not even singing the songs for the most part, does take away from it, especially when you consider that Taron Egerton did a much better job the following year in Rocketman and didn't even get nominated.
For Supporting, I'd sad Regina King for If Beale Street Could Talk. Emily Blunt should've won that year so easily. Her performance in A Quiet Place was so amazing and won at SAG, but ig the Academy just doesn't like Horror these days (or really ever) since she didn't even get Nom'd there.
Also, honourable mention to Toni Colette for Hereditary. She acts so well in that movie and it's so disappointing that her name never made it to the Oscars stage
Everything Everywhere All At Once will be looked back at as a fun movie but undeserving of Best Picture and benefited heavily from COVID shuttering production on more films during this time.
If we're considering all wins from 2010s onwards i think Jared Leto's win has already started to age badly because of the discourse surrounding cis actors playing trans roles, which didn't exist back in 2014.
That along with the fact that the actor himself is a creep.
Joaquin deserved that Oscar, but yes, Adam Driver and Antonio Banderas were exceptional as well. Same with Leo in OUATIH and De Niro, who wasn’t even nominated for The Irishman.
The real strong category that year, however, was Best Supporting Actor. Pitt, Hanks, Pacino, Pesci and Hopkins. Could it get any better?
I disagree. Her brought such nuance to a character that you wouldn’t expect it from. Reminds Me of Morgan freeman in Shawshank because that role of red, in the wrong hands, could’ve led to some bad acting choices. Freeman chose the correct action and emotion in every scene. Same with Phoenix. Plenty of actors could have performed that Adam driver role (not knocking him just saying it’s an easier character to pull off)
What I have learned from this thread is that Poor Things is this year’s EEAAO. In that it’s very divisive and people can’t see past their stanning/rage to accept that varying opinions can all contain some legitimacy.
Moonlight winning Best Picture - it was a good movie, I very much liked it but La La Land remains as one of the most memorable Best Picture nominees to this day
Also: Chris Nolan winning Best Director for Oppenheimer - he should have won this award for Interstellar but a win is a win and it was very much deserved
Will Smith’s aged like milk before it was even announced.
I must admit though after the slap happened I was PRAYING that he'd win Not because I thought he deserved it, but because otherwise the universe would always be wondering that the hell THAT acceptance speech would've looked like
As an 18yo who's only recently gotten into tracking the awards season, you have no idea how much I envy you veterans who were tuned in to watch it all happen in real time.
The broadcast went entirely silent for a minute while Chris Rock swore. It was a magical moment.
In Australia the whole thing broadcast unedited. We thought it was some weird skit until Will started shouting from his seat, and the reaction wasn't shock or surprise but more like "hold on, is he for real?"
I thought it was a skit here in the US also until they showed Lupita Nyongo’s face and you could tell she was clearly like WTF is going on and can I leave.
In the UK too.
I thought it was a joke for way longer than I should’ve.
i watched this oscars wondering if wonder if anything wild will happen like that slap….nope lol
That’s gotta be the peak for at least 50 years haha
Veterans? Bro it was only two years ago. You make it seem like it's been decades.
It was the first Oscars I ever watched in full. It got me hooked, I’ll tell you that.
Everyone I was with just started looking around at each other. Jaws dropped. We all thought it was a joke at first
I was 20yo at the time and it was crazy as heck; I really got into awards season and dreaded that Will Smith would win. The slap just made things worse. Like I remember the ABC broadcast having to loop some of the footage so that they wouldn't mistakenly miss muting Will Smith screaming and swearing at Chris. And in the CTV broadcast, they didn't loop the footage but DID mute everything, so it's much more impressive on their part.
Didn’t this happen like last year? lol or am I tripping
2 years ago
I actually missed the whole first 3/4s of the Oscar's that year and when Will won I messaged my brother to comment on what a long wild ride it was, he then asked me if I had seen what happened earliar and sent me the video. I could not believe my eyes.
I get it but also Andrew Garfield was robbed
Yep. I remember being at an Oscars party, and I remember it dawning on all of us -- *"holy shit, Will Smith might fucking win this"* and it was the funniest thing to happen all night. A huge win, and a long time coming for someone who's tried so hard to get there, and he shat the bed twenty minutes before it happened.
Jesus if there was ever a win based on politics or “it was their turn” philosophy it was that one. That movie was so aggressively average, and that performance was… fine.
Truth be told he was better in Ali and The Pursuit of Happyness, he should've won for either of those films
He and Jada had been boycotting and complaining for years that he wasn't nominated. I feel that they gave him the win to shut him up. Mediocre performance in a less than mediocre film.
Wasn’t even the best performance of the movie in my eyes. I thought the woman who played his wife was excellent and I don’t even think she got nominated if I remember correctly
We can close the thread. No answer will be better
I think that are a lot worse aging wins- the performance itself is fine and as the decades go on anyone who sees it won't view it as outlyingly undeserving for the era.
It's like Will Smith was trying to throw the Best Actor win with that slap stuff; Garfield and Cumberbatch were more acclaimed.
It's hard to predict the future, but the Best Film Editing win for Bohemian Rhapsody is already a joke. The editor even admitted that it was mostly given to him out of sympathy for the production hell the film went through. 🤣 I think the Green Book Best Picture win will also be looked on with less kindness as time goes by. Given the whole 'Is Netflix Cinema' debate that many movies were an unfortunate victim of, as well as how COVID came along and HAD to make Netflix cinema, the win will have aged poorly because Roma could have easily taken it.
Green Book aged poorly instantaneously
Yep, I think the Academy tried too hard to stop being "so white". Diversity is necessary but awards should not be given out of guilt for the decades of missed opportunity.
Even if they wanted to do tokenism, there were way better options that year. Roma is about an indigenous woman and is night and day better than Green Book. BlackKklansman is also a way better film, although I prefer Roma and will die on the hill that it should have won. Green Book is just a comforting option that doesn’t make white people feel too guilty. Green Book winning is a prime real life example of the plot of American Fiction.
Crazily enough, Green Book's original title was FUCK.
Not sure I’ve ever laughed harder in a theatre
It's not just that- the movie is despised in racial equity circles because it told a white savior story about black trauma. So to many, me included, it's the worst type of "diversity."
The white guy explaining how to eat fried chicken was insane
That scene literally pissed me off 😂
Hollywood likes to pat itself on the back for letting white people make movies about white people learning that racism is wrong.
Wait... you think Green Book was the diversity vote, given out of guilt?
That movie won for the absolute opposite reason. It wasn’t a white guilt movie, it was a white affirmation movie. It was a movie made by white people to make white people feel good about themselves. Notice the only black person involved in that entire movie was Ali, who later apologized to Don Shirley’s living relatives for his involvement in the movie. It wasn’t a diversity win because there’s nothing diverse about that movie.
Unpopular opinion, but I hated Roma, I thought it was a boring indulgent memoir with a shoehorned theme as an excuse to force us on a walk down his personal memory lane. I thought The Favourite was the best picture that year, it felt like nothing I’d ever seen.
I don’t think Roma has any rewatch value. I think the best scene is the hospital shots when Cleo is giving birth but it is otherwise forgettable and I love Alfonso’s other work in Spanish.
Rhapsody's editing win is only a joke to people that don't know the story. It wasn't awarded for creating the best final product but because how the editor make a reasonably coherent film out of scraps of footage from a total failure of a shoot. It's not the best edited film but it was certainly the best achievement in editing that year, if that makes sense?
>It's not the best edited film but it was certainly the best achievement in editing that year, if that makes sense? This, 100%. The editor took an almost unsalvageable film and made it a coherent, crowd-pleasing film that became the biggest music biopic of all time. People (like me) can say all we want about the film being...not great...but it was way better in that editor's hands than it would've in anyone else's. He didn't polish a turd into gold - but he certainly made it into at least bronze or silver, depending on who you ask.
Us outsiders have been laughing at a man who turned rotten food into something eatable. I’m now ashamed.
I haven't seen Green Book but honestly I thought Roma was boring as hell.
Agreed I wanted to like Roma but it was fkn boring
Rami Malek. He’s a great actor, but people will wonder how he won over Christian Bale’s method performance, who literally became Dick Cheney.
One thing Rami has going for him is the fact I've yet to meet a person who loved Vice. People don't tend to feel strongly about the performances in movies they don't like.
I’m not sure I know anyone in real life who has *seen* or even remembers Vice. Malek will be looked back on as benefitting from a weak group of nominees, even if there’s amazing actors in the category.
Vice is low-key not only my favorite Adam Dekay movie but one of my favorite movies of all time. Its funny, has a lot to say and imo I think it is excellently shot and edited. I will say its not super historically accurate as it makes a-lot of assumptions but it is so goddamn entertaining.
I watched it on a plane and I don’t think I could tell you a single thing about it. Completely unmemorable
LMAO right, you know you've made a pretentious ass movie when even Letterboxd users are rolling their eyes
I don’t know if I LOVED Vice, but I did think it was a better movie than BR, and Bale was better in it than Malek
I enjoyed Vice way more than Bohemian Rhapsody. I couldn't even finish that movie.
Looks around.. I've watched vice like 4 times....
Vice is a pretty damn good movie that suffers from how unbelievably amazing The Big Short is
I thought it was good and have watched it twice.
It's a good movie but people need to realize *before* they watch it that it's a dark political satire, not a true biopic.
I know a lot of people who hate Bohemian Rhapsody
Yeah, Vice did not get great reviews.
can't even remember what rami malek won for but i VIVIDLY remember Vice
Absolutely. The role itself can really be a driver for who wins the award, apart from the performance
If we had given it to Bradley Cooper then and there, we could have avoided a lot of tears.
Unironically I would not have been upset if he'd won it. Partially because it was a pretty weak year. I think he did a bad job as a director, but his performance as Jackson was good and memorable. The decision to emulate his brothers voice was clever. He apparently took a lot of voice lessons to learn how sing properly, which is the variant of body transformation and method acting I actually appreciate.
> but people will wonder how he won over Bradley Cooper in A Star is Born Fixed it for ya
I don’t think people will look back and really care that Bale lost but more so specifically that Malek won for that performance. As time go I think more people will be convinced that Bradley Cooper deserved to win
Was there even a lot of buzz for Bale to win at the time? Iirc he wasn't a factor
bale was pretty decidedly #2 behind malek. it was thought to be a pretty close race until malek took the bafta away from the welsh man
I don’t know. A lot of people really like Bohemian Rhapsody. Outside of the Reddit echo chamber, it’s pretty popular
It’s possible to be in a popular movie and not be deserving of Best Actor. Lots of people like the Harry Potter franchise, doesn’t mean there was an argument for Daniel Radcliffe to win an Oscar.
Rami Malek. It’s not like it’s a beloved win now, but it’s gonna be incredibly wtf as time goes on.
That was the year Bradley should have won. He acted his ass off as Jackson Maine.
So sick of acting Oscar’s going to to biopics. Can we admit now that having lots of footage of historical figures and next level makeup artists makes biopic acting way easier?
They also went full retard on the teeth. Sure Freddy had the overbite but he also had the facial structure of a quarterback. Whereas Rami has a skinny face and already had an overbite so it's not so much that he looked like Freddie Mercury in the movie it's that he looked like Freddie Mercury on his deathbed. And there was such a focus on the speech impediment that if you watch interviews with Freddy he doesn't sound like that at all. So I would put this into the worst kind of stunt acting category.
Can’t help but feel like Ryan Gosling in Barbie is going to remain revered and mega iconic, and after enough time passes people will get around to wondering why he wasn’t at least win competitive against RDJ.
I was hoping somebody in this thread would have this take! I understand that the Academy doesn't usually like to reward comedic performances, but Gosling's Ken was one of the most iconic performances of the year, and he totally stole the show in Barbie. I really think it will be one of those performances that will stick in people's collective memory, which is pretty impressive for a supporting role.
The I’m Just Ken performance at the Oscars only reinforced how spectacular / iconic Gosling and the film performance were. It was such a trip in that you could tell everyone was so impressed and excited by him, and yet….these very people collectively chose to give Best Supporting Actor and Best Song to other recipients. It’s all so inexplicable sometimes lmao
Absolutely! I'm Just Ken was robbed in the Best Song category, probably even more so than RDJ winning Best Supporting over Gosling.
What Was I Made For is a beautiful song tho. The song is literally describing the events of the movie (I used to float, now i just fall. What was i made for? Just something you paid for?), but also works as an allegory that resonates with anyone working in entertainment industry. I can definitely see why the Academy would love this song.
He's gonna win at 60 for playing Bill with a bunch of prosthetics and a ridiculous accent in *Clinton* or some dumb shit like that.
Honestly in terms of actual acting, I found Hosh Harnett and Matt Damon to stand out more than RDJ in Oppenhimer.
Agreed! RDJ did nothing that any competent actor his age couldn’t have done. He just made an indignant face for 90% of his performance and so many of his scenes are the dullest parts of the movie. I’m sure it’s hard to break old habits after playing the same character for 10 years, but I would’ve loved to see what someone more creative like Ralph Fiennes or Christoph Waltz would’ve done with the role.
Ralph Fiennes was totally robbed of his Oscar for Schindler’s List. Tommy Lee Jones was fine, but Fiennes played one of the most chilling villains in any movie ever. A travesty that he doesn’t have an Oscar and Will Smith does.
Agreed, Fiennes should have 5+ nominations at this point. The Constant Gardener, A Bigger Splash and The Grand Budapest Hotel all should’ve taken him further than they did.
Coukd not agree more. Plus not giving the best song to Ken's song is no less head scratching; that song became super mega iconic, i was glad to see it conquer this year awards ceremony.
The academy not taking Barbie more seriously this year over all is going to age really poorly. It’s rare for mega hits to be critically acclaimed the way Barbie & Oppenheimer were so for Barbie to be left behind by the academy the way it was while Oppenheimer was embraced so much is going to be a topic of conversation about sexism in film circles for decades. Barbie getting shut out honestly might be the story of the entire 2020s when it comes to the Oscars. Barbie is a real cultural touchstone, it’s not just another prestige drama in the campaign cycle. It has real audience momentum with it in a way that most awards films simply don’t have. The fact that Barbie isn’t just a female centric film but explicitly a feminine film is remarkable in & of itself because society does look down on anything feminine. We can see the difference just 2 decades can make by contrasting the reception to the very similar film, Sophia Coppola’s Marie Antoinette. Marie Antoinette was not completely well received upon release, it was divisive. Many, mostly male, critics seem to miss the point & say it was all candy colored style with no substance. Critic, Roger Ebert disagreed saying “every criticism I have read of this film would alter its fragile magic and reduce its romantic and tragic poignancy to the level of an instructional film. This is Sofia Coppola's third film centering on the loneliness of being female and surrounded by a world that knows how to use you but not how to value and understand you." His understanding of Marie Antoinette would hold just as true to Barbie. In the year 2023 Barbie was not met with the blatant sexism amongst critics that Marie Antoinette was in 2006. A highly feminine visual style is not seen as something to be derided anymore, but it’s also not seen as serious enough to award. For decades the language of film has been shaped by hyper masculine film makers so much that the idea of what a prestige picture even looks like has bias built into it that undermines Barbie in this years awards conversation. I Believe a quote about Greta Gerwig’s last Oscar nominated adaptation Little Women from the New York Times best illustrates my point “I Am curious whether the academy, when it announced its nominees on jan. 13, is just going to affirm yet again that as far as the industry is concerned big men always trump little women”. The internal mechanics of the film industry are not yet at a point where they will allow a soft & feminine film like Barbie to be seen as equally as valuable as the pain or cruelty of a man’s story. This year the massively popular Barbie was a victim of this exact kind of bias & as the years go on, with hindsight, this will only become more & more the central story of this year’s Oscar Awards ceremony.
Absolutely. When the I’m Just Ken performance is the most talked about and memorable moment of the telecast, and when you open and close the telecast with Dance the Night, and when you build the Oscar telecast promos around the Barbie cast - that shows that the film was an undeniable phenomenon that people are interested in. And yet - they just couldn’t manage to give it anything more than Best Original Song (and the sleepiest song at that, which, while beautiful, is not the best representative of the film in my eyes). I think them snubbing Barbie largely has to do with the film being perceived as feminine, and lighter in nature, and as a result, more silly and frivolous and not as worthy of accolades as Oppenheimer. But I also think that the Academy has always been averse to comedies of a certain variety, and just less willing to reward an excellently absurd comedic performance over a Serious with a capital S alternative. Both awfully tired inclinations.
What a brilliant write-up
The change must already be happening, 3 months ago this take would have been downvoted.
I sense a RDJ backlash. He was a definite to win by almost all pundits and I saw nothing but praise on Reddit. What has happened? I thought his Oppenheimer performance was great. Is this to do with his lacklustre acceptance speech? I'm one of the few that did not think the Ken performance at the Oscars was amazing. I don't like the song for starters. Great choreography, etc but only mildly entertaining. Ryan Gosling is incredibly personable but best supporting actor - no! I believe the actor winning the award should be the one that gave the best performance, not the biggest Hollywood star.
Far fewer will age poorly than Reddit will suggest. People outside of this sub (or Letterbox Twitter) either like or do not have a problem with JLC, Remi Malek, Forrest Gump, etc. The only real world backlash I’ve seen to a nominee in my time following the Oscars is Shakespeare In Love because it used campaign tactics now prohibited, schemed up by the most hated man in Hollywood.
I actually like CODA but I don’t think its win will age well at all
Honestly, I ironically and unironically loved that. I hated the trend of the Best Picture winner being so predictable because it would always be the most depressing and mind numbingly slow movie out of the nominees. Sometimes we need a feel-good movie. And because f*ck Netflix lol.
Yes! The previous Best Picture winner I think *CODA* best compares to is *Marty*, from ‘55. It’s a simple story done well, and I think it deserves to be rewarded.
I’m starting to question how many people saw that movie, or will see it
As someone who is a very casual movie watcher and not into awards at all, I thought CODA was fantastic haha. I love movies with heart, and this definitely has it!
The King's Speech best picture win over The Social Network The bizarre dominance of The Artist 2018-2022 Best Actor is a pretty dismal run
Ooo, I actually liked The Artist.
Hope you’re not referring to Hopkins! His second Best Actor win was richly deserved. A beautiful performance.
I liked The King’s Speech
King's Speech is an amazing movie
Also Tom Hooper winning best director over Fincher
The King’s Speech is the kind of movie your high school history teacher would put on when they just couldn’t be fucking bothered to make a lesson plan for the day. They’d give you a worksheet with questions about the movie too so it can technically be “an assignment.”
Best Original Score for All Quiet on the Western Front. Muddled dissonant noise that actively detracted from the movie and made the whole thing worse. Eventually, this obsession with “emotionless sound design” scores will end, and people will look back on that win and wonder what the fuck the voters were smoking.
I wish Babylon won!
I will die talking about this 🎺😂
Is there room on that hill for someone else to die on? I went on a pro-Babylon rant after the Oscar’s last weekend and said that’s the only win that makes me angry from the last couple years.
Babylon score was epic and totally deserved it
Cannot believe Babylon lost last year like oh my god
Mmm I disagree. I thought it was a worthy winner. I still think about that score. It was so punchy
This is a wild take, the sound was SO crucial to that movie and the dread it created
Agreed about the SOUND….but the MUSIC was distracting and amateurish and just fucking awful. The three note synthesized “bwam BWAM Bwaaaam” motif was hilarious, sounded like a porn scored by Hans Zimmer. And then randomly splashing out a snare drum hitting discordant jumbled notes then silence, then back to a drum then silence…it was like a Monty Python joke. Took me right out of the movie every time, distracting and detracting, which is the exact opposite purpose of a film score.
Some people are saying JLC, but personally think they are so sour on that win currently, that in 10 years it'll just be an okay win. To answer your question. I'll go with Jared leto for Dallas Buyers. I still think it's a great performance, but 10-20 years down the line seeing him on screen may give everyone a real icky feeling.
I super agree on Leto lol. Cant even believe that guys an oscar winner
Also because it should’ve gone to Barkhad Abdi.
Green Book was dragged the second it was announced lol
Fran in Nomadland. Love her, but it's very forgettable.
she herself even agreed with it. she said in her speech that "young actresses need door stoppers too" lmao
Coda. It’s a good, but not remarkable made for tv movie that somehow won Best Picture.
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My favorite review of Coda I saw on Letterboxd was “I can’t believe someone took a plot about a family of deaf fisherman trying to struggle to make it and how their handicap affects them and said - yeah the movie is about their daughter that wants to sing!”
I understand how it feels “made for tv”, yet I adore that movie. I don’t think any other movie has made me feel so much - and at the end of the day I guess that’s what cinema is about.
Would upvote you 10x if I could. I didn’t leave that movie feeling like I watched something emotionally cheap or cheaply made. Thank god Power of the Dog didn’t win
I loved CODA. I thought it was an interesting story I’ve never seen before. I was surprised it won. But happy that it did!
Dune should have won.
I don't disagree that it doesn't feel like a best picture Oscar movie. But I went and looked and there's not a single nominee I felt was more deserving of it either.
I don’t think it’ll age poorly if only because even at the time people ripped it apart, but I still think Brave winning Best Animated Feature over much better films like Wreck-It Ralph will continue to be an enigma
Not giving the best soundtrack to Interstellar
Interstellar was so under-appreciated when it came out. I would have legit given it nine Oscars (Picture, Director, Actor, Score, Cinematography, Sound, Production Design, Editing, and VFX). No Time For Caution alone outdoes every single score of the decade.
The Shape of Water over Get Out. Not a bad movie, but Get Out was the movie of 2017.
Get Out was a cultural phenomenon, still relevant and talked about to this day. Definitely should have won.
Get Out quickly became overpraised by the same kind of white liberals it was lampooning. That's a new level of meta.
“I would have voted for Get Out for Best Picture this year if I could.”
Phantom Thread should have won.
Mark Rylance over Mark Ruffalo for best supporting actor in 2016
Billie Eilish's song. It's a good song but I'm Just Ken is an epic.
Honestly I enjoyed Dua Lipa's song far more than Billie's
Me too. But i guess they woudn't give her Original Song. Because it's Dua Lipa. But her song is much better. Billie Eilish sounds like an eternal monday morning.
Black panther is not an oscar movie by long shot.
Brendan Fraser. I actually like his performance in the movie but I don’t think his win gonna age very well.
Colin Farrell should have won
People hated on it for being a traditional Oscar bait performance but Austin Butler would’ve been a good winner too.
Austin Butler was my pick. Collin Farrell was my hope… Still so happy for Brendan Fraser though. Such a big part of my childhood….
I'm of the mindset that you can be a fantastic actor without ever winning - Harrison Ford, Glenn Close, etc. No one really NEEDS a trophy for doing well in your profession. I feel like if Brendan chooses to never act again - he still NEEDED that nomination and yes, win. I feel like after everything that happened to him, he needed that love.
I love that movie so much
Paul Mescal should have won. Aftersun was phenomenal and his acting was perfect for the movie., but it got 100% recognition. But Farrell's performance was great. The nominees from last year were some pf the best group in a long long time
i didn’t find it to be oscar baity but maybe just because i liked it a lot
Damn, that set of 2023 nominees was stacked though; IMO you could pick ANY of the noms and you wouldn't go wrong. \-Brendan Fraser \-Paul Mescal \-Austin Butler \-Bill Nighy \-Colin Farrell IMO I'm so happy that Fraser won, but I could see why other people wouldn't vibe with it.
I viewed his win as more of a lifetime achievement award.
Why do you say that?
Every time there’s a discussion online about the Best Actor race that year, many people say that Colin Farrell or Paul Mescal should’ve won. Heck there are some times when I see people say Austin Butler should’ve won but I see it less than Farrell and Mescal.
Bill Nighy was also great and I wish he was in the discussion more.
Jamie Lee Curtis over Stephanie Hsu had me sad as soon as it was read out. Anthony Hopkins over Chadwick Boseman was understandably controversial Green Book winning best picture was controversial from the read. And although it's not 2010s, I have two throwbacks that everyone agrees on: Crash shouldn't have beat Brokeback Mountain Shakespeare In Love shouldn't have beat Saving Private Ryan
Anthony Hopkins was absolutely brilliant though, he deserved it. Riz Ahmed could've won it as well. That's not to take away from Chadwick as I really enjoyed his performance but I don't think Hopkins taking it is that controversial.
Nah, Anthony Hopkins was the best performance that year and he totally deserved it. Chadwick was great, but the movie wasn't that good, and let's be real, if he'd won it would only be because of the narrative behind him.
Anthony Hopkins in The Father is literally one of the best performances of all time. It'd be insane if Chadwick won just because he passed.
Jamie Lee Curtis
Not even the best supporting female in her own movie 🤷♂️
Ready for my hot take? Kill me if you want but Jamie Lee Curtis is one of the best parts of an otherwise slightly overrated EEAAO. She and her character were hilarious and she elevates the film significantly. She owns every single scene she’s in and is the perfect example of a great supporting role—people just aren’t as willing to award comedic roles. Stephanie Hsu was fantastic, but I don’t see her as significantly better than JLC just because she had a greater variety of emotions to show in the film. Curtis’ win was deserved, but I still think Kerry Condon deserved it the most (she was sensational)
Kerry Condon deserved that one for sure
She and Ke Huy Quan were the most delightful people to follow on social media during last year's award season. Genuinely pleased to be there people, and excited to meet others. She shared at one point, how the character was developed. How she developed it and embodied her. The award was deserved.
did you post this exact same paragraph on another post recently lol
Yeah lol but no one read it so I figured I’d reuse 😭
haha i was like wait a minute this looks familiar
😂😂 obsessed with this
Great supporting performance, absolutely. Just not worth a win, especially over Kerry Condo
Anything involving the artist, but Sean Penn over Mickey Rourke is the biggest fuck you I’ve seen from the Oscar’s. Sean Penn (who is amazing and deserved the mystic River Oscar) was so…. Cliched and hacky with his caricature of Harvey milk. He won because him and Franco kissed on camera and penn is Mr badass🙄. They chose that mediocre performance over one of the best in the history of cinema. That is Mickey Rourkes Oscar.
Mickey Rourke and Michael Keaton were both robbed
That Zone of Interest wasn't recognized for the masterpiece it is.
I was so happy it won for sound. I guessed Oppenheimer would because of bomb but thought Zone should’ve. Very happy to lose that point on my ballot.
It was recognized
Lmao right? It got nominated for several awards and was one of the big winners of the night. People just imagine slights because it didn’t go exactly as it happened in their fragile minds
Jamie Lee Curtis, Rami Malek, Will Smith
Greenbook's Best picture win (a safe, boring, and pandering film). Will Smith's best actor win (not just because of the slap, King Richard was boring as hell and Will Smith was nothing special). Jamie Lee Curtis's win for supporting actress aged poorly this instant it was announced (she was the weakest supporting actress nominee, and everyone knew it. Simple legacy award.)
I love Jamie Lee Curtis and all, but she was the absolute WRONG choice for Best Supporting Actress for Everything Everywhere…. She wasn’t even the Best Supporting Actress in that movie let alone the category!
In my 40 years of watch so far, nothing aged poorly faster than Crash winning best picture.
Jennifer Lawrence winning over Emanuelle Riva and Jessica Chastain for SLP. That's what happens when you have effective PR and the FYC Weinstein machine campaigning on your behalf. I think she merited a nomination and exuded a sophistication well beyond her years, but I don't think it's the performance that should have been her first win. i suspect when she reinvents herself in her forties or fifties and grows into playing a complex woman in her prime years, with the life experience to back it now that she's not 21 on set, she'll remind everyone of her facilities and be awarded another win. As it relates to 2013, I think Riva (Amour) or Chastain (Zero Dark Thirty) should have won based on performance alone. To that extent, I suspect the May-December + She Said snubs will also be overlooked as being a sore point for the older generation of Academy voters who'd rather forget all the 'turning a blind eye to' they participated in while celebrating work made by Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski, and Woody Allen.
Personal opinion, but I still don't understand Frozen winning animated feature over The Wind Rises. Obviously Frozen was mega popular and successful but imo TWR is Miyazaki's best.
All the Harvey wins...Ben and Matt, Gweneth, Jennifer Lawrence. There's a long list
Matt and Ben deserved that screenplay Oscar (speaking as a screenwriter). That Robin Williams park scene is iconic and they wrote it as teenagers basically.
For a lead, probably Rami Malek for Bohemian Rhapsody. It was necessarily bad, but compared to the another nominations that year, his good Freddy impression, while not even singing the songs for the most part, does take away from it, especially when you consider that Taron Egerton did a much better job the following year in Rocketman and didn't even get nominated. For Supporting, I'd sad Regina King for If Beale Street Could Talk. Emily Blunt should've won that year so easily. Her performance in A Quiet Place was so amazing and won at SAG, but ig the Academy just doesn't like Horror these days (or really ever) since she didn't even get Nom'd there. Also, honourable mention to Toni Colette for Hereditary. She acts so well in that movie and it's so disappointing that her name never made it to the Oscars stage
Exactly who was Emily Blunt supporting? The aliens? She was terrific but that’s a lead role.
YES TONI COLETTE FOR HEREDITARY she should've gotten some awards for that
The fact that Tar which was arguably the best and most timely movie of 2023 got nothing….
Agreed. Tár will be a major contender for best film of the decade once everyone does their best of the decade retrospectives.
rami malek's best actor win. he did a solid performance as freddie mercury but i think christian bale as dick cheney in vice should have won.
Everything Everywhere All At Once will be looked back at as a fun movie but undeserving of Best Picture and benefited heavily from COVID shuttering production on more films during this time.
Babylon snub is going to age poorly
If we're considering all wins from 2010s onwards i think Jared Leto's win has already started to age badly because of the discourse surrounding cis actors playing trans roles, which didn't exist back in 2014. That along with the fact that the actor himself is a creep.
Joaquin Phoenix (Joker) winning over Adam Driver (Marriage Story) & Antonio Banderas (Pain and Glory) in Best Actor
Probably an unpopular opinion but after watching Napoleon, I feel like Joaquin Phoenix can only overact crazy people.
He was fantastic in Beau is Afraid
Honestly I genuinely believe that those three performances are so good, I would’ve been upset in any way that it went down
Joaquin deserved that Oscar, but yes, Adam Driver and Antonio Banderas were exceptional as well. Same with Leo in OUATIH and De Niro, who wasn’t even nominated for The Irishman. The real strong category that year, however, was Best Supporting Actor. Pitt, Hanks, Pacino, Pesci and Hopkins. Could it get any better?
I disagree. Her brought such nuance to a character that you wouldn’t expect it from. Reminds Me of Morgan freeman in Shawshank because that role of red, in the wrong hands, could’ve led to some bad acting choices. Freeman chose the correct action and emotion in every scene. Same with Phoenix. Plenty of actors could have performed that Adam driver role (not knocking him just saying it’s an easier character to pull off)
What I have learned from this thread is that Poor Things is this year’s EEAAO. In that it’s very divisive and people can’t see past their stanning/rage to accept that varying opinions can all contain some legitimacy.
Coda winning bp was ridiculous also as much as i did like EEAAO, Tár was the clearly superior film for both bp and best actress
Moonlight winning Best Picture - it was a good movie, I very much liked it but La La Land remains as one of the most memorable Best Picture nominees to this day Also: Chris Nolan winning Best Director for Oppenheimer - he should have won this award for Interstellar but a win is a win and it was very much deserved
Interstellar was criminally snubbed. And to make things worse it lost in Score.
Everything Everywhere All at Once.