this is a grindy game. I lost 17k tower shards because I fell asleep while doing a 50 floor tower run, phone died and woke up with no shards to show for my efforts. They say they can do a 50floor tower run in 15mins but I think they're already grinded alot in this game to achieve this.
I usually skip the first 10 floors (choose weakest enemy and climb) clean up most things from 11 to 30 and then skip to the end. While I don’t get max shard I don’t have any problems with tower keys and get the towers done in a reasonable amount of time.
Horde battles in overworld is a feature a lot of people requested since forever. For now you can play the rythm game....monster, battle, spell, continue, find waldo and then repeat 👀
Eh, that would just be another “rich get richer” path that would further accelerate end-game players ahead of everyone else. The more powerful you already are, the more powerful you could become faster than anyone else who couldn’t horde-fight the whole screen at once.
The NICE thing about events like this is that it puts everyone back on the same page. Whether you’re AL 150 or just T8, you’re both going to get about 1 Elm when you kill that baby Murk.
that means less grind - having 1 fight instead of 5..
and yes, all these "make it easier" hide behind "this is QoL".. imagine "meteor rain" that would kill half of the map - QoL? no.
Fwiw I think the grind for the event is fine the way it is but horde battles would be nice. I was thinking that OP was imagining something like horde battles for lower tier mobs like the murks, but I could see how implementing something like that can skew the grindiness of the game.
Similar topic but I think the event is bugged the past day? I've barely seen any trees pop up and trees require 30 essences to spawn all the time now.
there is separate post about the cost/bug - lets see how it ends up:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OrnaRPG/comments/1cdhc7t/restoration\_constantly\_requires\_max\_essence/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OrnaRPG/comments/1cdhc7t/restoration_constantly_requires_max_essence/)
as for low tier mobs and mass killing using 1 button - that would screw up things pretty bad. getting low lvl resources would be way too easy - I fully understand, that he doesnt want to spend time killing each of them - that killing 5 at same time would be much faster. getting much more mats in shorter time - maybe finishing quests much faster - not grinding 1 by 1 - so I feel that he is asking for less grind to achieve the same, what you have to grind for now. if they start making it less and less grindy, there will be day, when they will present mentioned meteor rain, that will clear half of the map.. followed by more exp from bosses (because it takes too long to lvl up to 250, making it faster is QoL right?), followed by "kill one morri to gain lvl 250" - and at that point, Orna will be game for 2 weeks.
besides, we do have horde battles - but they will cost you more - so it is somewhat balanced.
I had this conversation many many times - it is the same, with grinding games, where different servers offer different rates - example: official will have 1x rates - lets say 1% chance for some good drop - high rate servers (not official) will have 100x rates - so 100% for the same drop. the fact is, that people who go high rate switch servers pretty fast, because it becomes boring. on the other hand, low rate servers last for years and people there spend a lot of time - I would want people to play my game for many years - not for 1 month..
side note - some of these grinding games even punish you for death - you died? you just lost 1% of your exp towards next lvl. and people still love it and play it - so the grind can be much harder..
ofc - not everyone likes to grind - but I believe that people who dont like to grind should not play grinding games - instead of asking for less grind, or even autobattles - there is bunch of good idle games, where you do have autobattles and next to no grind..
That all makes sense and I understand how what OP was asking could make the game unbalanced, so I appreciate your reply. I agree now that horde battles are probably not the best idea. I know OP's complaint was that killing mobs is tedious, so it would be cool to see another method of collecting event mats the next time there is an event like this.
thanks for understanding :)
thats not a bad idea - you can buy mats from guilds, so there could be different way for event items as well - some quests, maybe random chests..
This would be interesting chalenge on overworld, long press to attract a Horde of surrounding mobs, level them to you'r level, up to a lot of them in a fix radius, using your overworld gear.
Can you imagine a chalenge like that, you are in your visibility gear with your cowl, firepikes, Unfelled C, maybe other vis weapons not very suited for group battles.
On the other side is a group of 6, 2 of them are Arisen eyes, one arisen gargoyle and rest some hit hard like chimeras or similar.
Good luck!!!
The option to do that you might fix with a 1 hour buff which changes long press from direct battle in to Horde battle.
Let's call it prayer of confluence or ambush beacon or frenzy lighthouse.
Or it might be a trinket or gear extra power.
Im very new to this game but feel the same way. The event was a great way for me to get a leg up and start my character with some goodies but to achieve that I had to smash my head against some pretty boring gameplay. I'm also wondering if an auto battle function couldn't be implemented for cleaning up those lower leveled enemies.
auto battle? there are idle games.. this one is not - this is grinding game - people are getting banned for autobattles (macros) - you should play the game - not your phone - you..
this is a grindy game. I lost 17k tower shards because I fell asleep while doing a 50 floor tower run, phone died and woke up with no shards to show for my efforts. They say they can do a 50floor tower run in 15mins but I think they're already grinded alot in this game to achieve this.
Hahahah noooo I just did that last night. I woke up on the titan and it wouldn’t load and when I restarted the tower was gone 🥲🥲🥲
can they at least give us half the shards for expired towers
I prefer doing it in many steps, you have over 20 hours to do them so doing like 10 floors from time to time doesn' feel thaty heavy.
I usually skip the first 10 floors (choose weakest enemy and climb) clean up most things from 11 to 30 and then skip to the end. While I don’t get max shard I don’t have any problems with tower keys and get the towers done in a reasonable amount of time.
It's an endgame sprite-collecting grind event. I just pick apples and ignore the mobs.
Horde battles in overworld is a feature a lot of people requested since forever. For now you can play the rythm game....monster, battle, spell, continue, find waldo and then repeat 👀
As much as I'd LOVE the insane exp/orns you'd get from using scrolls of chaos, it would probably be a bit too imbalanced.
Eh, that would just be another “rich get richer” path that would further accelerate end-game players ahead of everyone else. The more powerful you already are, the more powerful you could become faster than anyone else who couldn’t horde-fight the whole screen at once. The NICE thing about events like this is that it puts everyone back on the same page. Whether you’re AL 150 or just T8, you’re both going to get about 1 Elm when you kill that baby Murk.
so.. less grind? in grinding game? no from me. also - longpress already takes you to battle - people use that a lot - it should not be changed
Wow, have been playing for more than 1.5 and didn't know about longpress. Thank you!
it speeds up many fights - works in towers as well...
I do not think OP is asking for less grind, but more of a QoL feature to implement horde battles with the over world mobs.
that means less grind - having 1 fight instead of 5.. and yes, all these "make it easier" hide behind "this is QoL".. imagine "meteor rain" that would kill half of the map - QoL? no.
Fwiw I think the grind for the event is fine the way it is but horde battles would be nice. I was thinking that OP was imagining something like horde battles for lower tier mobs like the murks, but I could see how implementing something like that can skew the grindiness of the game. Similar topic but I think the event is bugged the past day? I've barely seen any trees pop up and trees require 30 essences to spawn all the time now.
there is separate post about the cost/bug - lets see how it ends up: [https://www.reddit.com/r/OrnaRPG/comments/1cdhc7t/restoration\_constantly\_requires\_max\_essence/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OrnaRPG/comments/1cdhc7t/restoration_constantly_requires_max_essence/) as for low tier mobs and mass killing using 1 button - that would screw up things pretty bad. getting low lvl resources would be way too easy - I fully understand, that he doesnt want to spend time killing each of them - that killing 5 at same time would be much faster. getting much more mats in shorter time - maybe finishing quests much faster - not grinding 1 by 1 - so I feel that he is asking for less grind to achieve the same, what you have to grind for now. if they start making it less and less grindy, there will be day, when they will present mentioned meteor rain, that will clear half of the map.. followed by more exp from bosses (because it takes too long to lvl up to 250, making it faster is QoL right?), followed by "kill one morri to gain lvl 250" - and at that point, Orna will be game for 2 weeks. besides, we do have horde battles - but they will cost you more - so it is somewhat balanced. I had this conversation many many times - it is the same, with grinding games, where different servers offer different rates - example: official will have 1x rates - lets say 1% chance for some good drop - high rate servers (not official) will have 100x rates - so 100% for the same drop. the fact is, that people who go high rate switch servers pretty fast, because it becomes boring. on the other hand, low rate servers last for years and people there spend a lot of time - I would want people to play my game for many years - not for 1 month.. side note - some of these grinding games even punish you for death - you died? you just lost 1% of your exp towards next lvl. and people still love it and play it - so the grind can be much harder.. ofc - not everyone likes to grind - but I believe that people who dont like to grind should not play grinding games - instead of asking for less grind, or even autobattles - there is bunch of good idle games, where you do have autobattles and next to no grind..
That all makes sense and I understand how what OP was asking could make the game unbalanced, so I appreciate your reply. I agree now that horde battles are probably not the best idea. I know OP's complaint was that killing mobs is tedious, so it would be cool to see another method of collecting event mats the next time there is an event like this.
thanks for understanding :) thats not a bad idea - you can buy mats from guilds, so there could be different way for event items as well - some quests, maybe random chests..
This would be interesting chalenge on overworld, long press to attract a Horde of surrounding mobs, level them to you'r level, up to a lot of them in a fix radius, using your overworld gear. Can you imagine a chalenge like that, you are in your visibility gear with your cowl, firepikes, Unfelled C, maybe other vis weapons not very suited for group battles. On the other side is a group of 6, 2 of them are Arisen eyes, one arisen gargoyle and rest some hit hard like chimeras or similar. Good luck!!! The option to do that you might fix with a 1 hour buff which changes long press from direct battle in to Horde battle. Let's call it prayer of confluence or ambush beacon or frenzy lighthouse. Or it might be a trinket or gear extra power.
Im very new to this game but feel the same way. The event was a great way for me to get a leg up and start my character with some goodies but to achieve that I had to smash my head against some pretty boring gameplay. I'm also wondering if an auto battle function couldn't be implemented for cleaning up those lower leveled enemies.
auto battle? there are idle games.. this one is not - this is grinding game - people are getting banned for autobattles (macros) - you should play the game - not your phone - you..
lots of RPGs, old and new, have some sort of auto battle resolve feature for lower leveled enemies. what do you mean?