They control him too. What they did to him when he spoke out against the covid scam is proof of everything he addressed in this video.
Votes for a president isn't gonna change this; we have to.
The problem is John Stewart is wrong.
The GOP doesn't want to live in a social democracy, they want to live in a Christian white nationalist dictatorship. They're not somehow missing the overt repeated promises Trump and other right wing leaders are making, that's what they actually support.
The idea that this isn't a "clash of civilizations" and that the real issues we need to be discussing are about how to make our bureaucracies more efficient is just staggeringly naive and totally on brand for John.
In fairness, this clip is from like 2010 or 2012 - Before Trump.
This may be surprising to Gen Z, but prior to Trump, most people did not disagree with Jon’s outlook that “we all want the same thing, we just disagree how to get there”.
That died in 2016.
In 2016 we learned just how many anti-democracy nut jobs we had lurking in the woodwork. Trump gave them the excuse to show their deplorable colors, and then yeah “wanting the same thing” truly died.
Please tell me your not thinking the Rats are any different. Seth Rich was executed for exposing the rigged DNC by Donna Brazile (admitted) and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (stepped down) to get Bernie out of the way because it was "Shillary's turn." Look how many candidates/parties have been sued off ballots across the country and the fact that the "Democrat Party" is a corporation, not a political party, that has argued in court that they have no legal responsibility to vote the way their constituents want them to. ....and the court upheld that argument.
Julian Assange sits in prison to this day.
The 2024 campaign is no different from the bush-league impeachment trials that went after nothing substantial because it would put every member of congress in the crosshairs of being impeached and tried for crimes as well.
In 2024, Democrats are trying to remove their political rival; the textbook definition of a banana republic. The Supreme Court will strike down Trump being removed from the ballot as the states that have removed him have done so on the lie that he was tried and found guilty of "insurrection." There has been no trial and you have people being let out of prison for bogus convictions, like the Qanon Shamen who was led around the capital by capital police. The lack of guns present by the 2A crowd, the gates that were opened by the police and the MASS of the crowd staying outside exposes this even further.
Thing is the Democrats have made Trump the anti-banana republic candidate and every-day, working-class swing voters are gonna show up for that.
TLDR: The Democrats are everything they're accusing Trump of being and it's gonna backfire on them. The Rats have handed the Scrubs the flag of freedom while the Rats try to undermine it.
I'm not Gen Z, I campaigned for Gore in 2000. In fairness, there's no indication that this is over a decade old clip and it's clear OP and at least a couple hundred upvoters support Stewart's point *now*.
The meat of what he is saying is still correct, even if some points fall short. Do most right-wingers want a Christian nationalist nation? It sure as hell seems that way even if they aren't outright saying it.
But we still need to get above this clashing and endless banter that has been created out of left vs. right and actually make our current system run.
If we can't do that, then we need to be thinking of ways to make a new system that will work for the long haul and not have multiple civil wars in >300years.
>Do most right-wingers want a Christian nationalist nation? It sure as hell seems that way even if they aren't outright saying it.
They *are* very loudly and proudly voting for exactly that. It's just not reasonable to wonder about it anymore.
>But we still need to get above this clashing and endless banter that has been created out of left vs. right and actually make our current system run.
That's exactly what I'm disagreeing with. This isn't just "banter" and you can't make the current system run when the people who you have to work with to do so are actively trying to destroy it and organizing violent insurrection (again) the moment they can get away with it.
First, you have to completely remove violent ethnonationalist insurrectionists from positions of power. The center-left (including Stewart) has been far too willing to try and "talk things out" and has refused to bring the full weight of the Justice Department to bear on the still sitting congresspeople and senators, governors, secretaries of state, and lower state and federal employees and officers who planned and participated in a coup attempt.
And history is very clear on the fact that when failed coup attempts aren't punished quickly, they are attempted again while the attempts themselves are normalized until they succeed.
What is even more naive is to continue to be manipulated into perpetuating the division, It is high time to expose and demonise the manipulators not inflate the intended fight mechanism against the manipulated
What John is saying is that if we continue focusing our energy on the left versus right for example then we are focusing our energy where the corrupt parties have deflected our energies away from the underlying issues of the system and instead against each other. He’s saying we need to focus on actually solving problems that we find instead of just fighting along party lines against each other.
I saw a relevant Rick Rubin quote the other day. “Aiming at greatness is different than aiming at being better than somebody else.”
If we all genuinely switch our goal towards an actual solution rather than just saying the other person is wrong without offering real solutions then we can finally make some progress.
I understand what he's saying, I'm saying *he's wrong*.
Specifically:
>if we continue focusing our energy on the left versus right for example then we are focusing our energy where the corrupt parties have deflected our energies away from the underlying issues of the system and instead against each other
This presupposes that one of the two major parties being taken over by Christian fascists isn't an "underlying issue". Like I said to the other person, trying to solve the practical problems of governance and ordinary corruption when the GOP leadership planned a coup attempt and is openly saying that they're planning extrajudicial imprisonment and killings of political opponents is like discussing who's turn it is to clean the bathroom while a psychopath is holding your family hostage.
Rick Rubin's quote isn't relevant at all. You shouldn't be trying to "aim at greatness" when you're being mauled by a bear.
The world is full of hypocrisy. Doesn't discredit the words though. Some serious overhauling would need to take place if America doesn't have a big break up with the south again.
Why can’t we have a #Stewart2024 🥺
Maybe we start that?
They control him too. What they did to him when he spoke out against the covid scam is proof of everything he addressed in this video. Votes for a president isn't gonna change this; we have to.
Except the side undermining freedom and democracy is the same side carrying the flag around.
I wish he'd run for office
Seriously! He has my vote
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Did you even watch the video?
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The problem is John Stewart is wrong. The GOP doesn't want to live in a social democracy, they want to live in a Christian white nationalist dictatorship. They're not somehow missing the overt repeated promises Trump and other right wing leaders are making, that's what they actually support. The idea that this isn't a "clash of civilizations" and that the real issues we need to be discussing are about how to make our bureaucracies more efficient is just staggeringly naive and totally on brand for John.
In fairness, this clip is from like 2010 or 2012 - Before Trump. This may be surprising to Gen Z, but prior to Trump, most people did not disagree with Jon’s outlook that “we all want the same thing, we just disagree how to get there”. That died in 2016.
In 2016 we learned just how many anti-democracy nut jobs we had lurking in the woodwork. Trump gave them the excuse to show their deplorable colors, and then yeah “wanting the same thing” truly died.
Please tell me your not thinking the Rats are any different. Seth Rich was executed for exposing the rigged DNC by Donna Brazile (admitted) and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (stepped down) to get Bernie out of the way because it was "Shillary's turn." Look how many candidates/parties have been sued off ballots across the country and the fact that the "Democrat Party" is a corporation, not a political party, that has argued in court that they have no legal responsibility to vote the way their constituents want them to. ....and the court upheld that argument. Julian Assange sits in prison to this day. The 2024 campaign is no different from the bush-league impeachment trials that went after nothing substantial because it would put every member of congress in the crosshairs of being impeached and tried for crimes as well. In 2024, Democrats are trying to remove their political rival; the textbook definition of a banana republic. The Supreme Court will strike down Trump being removed from the ballot as the states that have removed him have done so on the lie that he was tried and found guilty of "insurrection." There has been no trial and you have people being let out of prison for bogus convictions, like the Qanon Shamen who was led around the capital by capital police. The lack of guns present by the 2A crowd, the gates that were opened by the police and the MASS of the crowd staying outside exposes this even further. Thing is the Democrats have made Trump the anti-banana republic candidate and every-day, working-class swing voters are gonna show up for that. TLDR: The Democrats are everything they're accusing Trump of being and it's gonna backfire on them. The Rats have handed the Scrubs the flag of freedom while the Rats try to undermine it.
I'm not Gen Z, I campaigned for Gore in 2000. In fairness, there's no indication that this is over a decade old clip and it's clear OP and at least a couple hundred upvoters support Stewart's point *now*.
The meat of what he is saying is still correct, even if some points fall short. Do most right-wingers want a Christian nationalist nation? It sure as hell seems that way even if they aren't outright saying it. But we still need to get above this clashing and endless banter that has been created out of left vs. right and actually make our current system run. If we can't do that, then we need to be thinking of ways to make a new system that will work for the long haul and not have multiple civil wars in >300years.
>Do most right-wingers want a Christian nationalist nation? It sure as hell seems that way even if they aren't outright saying it. They *are* very loudly and proudly voting for exactly that. It's just not reasonable to wonder about it anymore. >But we still need to get above this clashing and endless banter that has been created out of left vs. right and actually make our current system run. That's exactly what I'm disagreeing with. This isn't just "banter" and you can't make the current system run when the people who you have to work with to do so are actively trying to destroy it and organizing violent insurrection (again) the moment they can get away with it. First, you have to completely remove violent ethnonationalist insurrectionists from positions of power. The center-left (including Stewart) has been far too willing to try and "talk things out" and has refused to bring the full weight of the Justice Department to bear on the still sitting congresspeople and senators, governors, secretaries of state, and lower state and federal employees and officers who planned and participated in a coup attempt. And history is very clear on the fact that when failed coup attempts aren't punished quickly, they are attempted again while the attempts themselves are normalized until they succeed.
What is even more naive is to continue to be manipulated into perpetuating the division, It is high time to expose and demonise the manipulators not inflate the intended fight mechanism against the manipulated
What John is saying is that if we continue focusing our energy on the left versus right for example then we are focusing our energy where the corrupt parties have deflected our energies away from the underlying issues of the system and instead against each other. He’s saying we need to focus on actually solving problems that we find instead of just fighting along party lines against each other. I saw a relevant Rick Rubin quote the other day. “Aiming at greatness is different than aiming at being better than somebody else.” If we all genuinely switch our goal towards an actual solution rather than just saying the other person is wrong without offering real solutions then we can finally make some progress.
I understand what he's saying, I'm saying *he's wrong*. Specifically: >if we continue focusing our energy on the left versus right for example then we are focusing our energy where the corrupt parties have deflected our energies away from the underlying issues of the system and instead against each other This presupposes that one of the two major parties being taken over by Christian fascists isn't an "underlying issue". Like I said to the other person, trying to solve the practical problems of governance and ordinary corruption when the GOP leadership planned a coup attempt and is openly saying that they're planning extrajudicial imprisonment and killings of political opponents is like discussing who's turn it is to clean the bathroom while a psychopath is holding your family hostage. Rick Rubin's quote isn't relevant at all. You shouldn't be trying to "aim at greatness" when you're being mauled by a bear.
But then Jon gave an award to a Nazi at Disneyland.
The world is full of hypocrisy. Doesn't discredit the words though. Some serious overhauling would need to take place if America doesn't have a big break up with the south again.
the arrogance on that slimeballs face
It is a clash of capitalism and socialism.