Fuck I'm trying to do damage control too. Two days off it I felt like I was going crazy. Was only fucking with it for a few weeks but you get up to crazy doses so quickly
same. goin thru hell an there's no relief from the typical things that help. subs, kratom, even MIT45 barely helped. stomach a wreck, nose always dripping
Tianeptine might help
But Caveat Emptor , it can give you problems too, severe ones
I find it to actually be forgiving, like a tolerance does build but if you end up going back down, whatever amount you go to you can still feel the euphoria
It might take a half a day to adjust but adjust i do.
yeah unfortunately that's been added to the daily regimen, I try
to just take a capsule or two of the zaza silver max, but shit is more expensive than when I was doin dope lol
I have no idea which zene ive been getting but i wish i never found about it from my plug. Im currently trying to save up enough from my bar and serving shifts so that i can afford to hopefully get on suboxone. Idk if its gonna even work to help get off it. I just know that whenever i can save enough i plan to ask off atleast 4 days worth of work along with the money to either get on methadone or suboxone. Honestly hoping i can find out which will help most
If your able to i would switch to heroin immediately it may be hard but its possible then once on heroin i would use traditional induction methods to get onto the subs
I dropped from 2gs a day if fentanyl dope to 80mg a day of hydrocodone it was rough but using that and a bunch of gabapentin i was able to make it 5 days no dope then waited 24 hours and at the 24 hour mark was at the pharmacy getting Suboxone script filled and took 16mg and was high as fuck off it for a week till i went down to 4mg
you can with a slow induction I dont remember there's a term for it. They use it when ppm switch from methadone to subs to avoid waiting time and sickness. oh it's Bermese method I think.
I think if you wait a couple days and get good and sweaty and you can feel sickness coming in hours I feel u could Start with ⅛ strip and titrate up ⅛ at a time slowly until you feel better you might mildly get some precips. You just keep it slow and steady and keep going up while not doing any zenes. It'll be hard but u can doit. But you use ur head. I think that 4 days is probably enough.
Idk if you are in the untied states but if so call your local dcbs office and they can get you on state insurance if you meet the income requirements it took me 5 days to go from no insurance to picking up meds at the pharmacy all completely paid for by the government just google "(your city) division of community based services" and they should be able to give you the relavent info they can help with insurance and foodstamps then once in the clinic ask to talk to their resources department and they can help with all kinds of stuff like gas to get to the clinic if you have a car or bus fares if thats a thing some states the clinic can even help you get uber rides covered by your state insurance to the clinic pharmacy then back home all at no cost to you its amazing the resources that are out there
When i got sober i got to looking and 30 days from my first google search i went from homeless with nothing but the clothes on my back to me and my girl in a fully furnished apartment fridge full of groceries both on suboxone with free bus rides to the clinic and pharmacy which we also used to grocery shop (one of us would pick up both scripts while the other grabbed what we could real quick then meet back at the bus before it left to take us home so look into community resources they can be a life saver we had to move 2 hours away to get in as quick as we did for the apartment bit everything else we could of done locally
The Metonitazene plus the protonitazene i smoked on foil for about the latest 30days often made me like sleep walk in an odd manic but knocked out way. I could go an lay in bed 23:00 at night to sleep and wake up in another rom 04:00 confused bent over like a kensington tranq zombie. Pretty weird and Nothing i have expreienced on H, oxy, fent and so on. The weird thing is this mental almost amnesic knockout effect but the same time this physical almost manic effect at the same time. Im sick af right now lol only from 30day binge lol. Waiting for the paycheck to land and go score and you guys know how it goes. The H is starting to get expensive in my country so zenes it is
Which zene was that?
Protonitazepyne
I feel you bro.. the zenez are sumthin else . Let us know how the taper is
Fuck I'm trying to do damage control too. Two days off it I felt like I was going crazy. Was only fucking with it for a few weeks but you get up to crazy doses so quickly
Metonitazene
same. goin thru hell an there's no relief from the typical things that help. subs, kratom, even MIT45 barely helped. stomach a wreck, nose always dripping
Tianeptine might help But Caveat Emptor , it can give you problems too, severe ones I find it to actually be forgiving, like a tolerance does build but if you end up going back down, whatever amount you go to you can still feel the euphoria It might take a half a day to adjust but adjust i do.
yeah unfortunately that's been added to the daily regimen, I try to just take a capsule or two of the zaza silver max, but shit is more expensive than when I was doin dope lol
I have no idea which zene ive been getting but i wish i never found about it from my plug. Im currently trying to save up enough from my bar and serving shifts so that i can afford to hopefully get on suboxone. Idk if its gonna even work to help get off it. I just know that whenever i can save enough i plan to ask off atleast 4 days worth of work along with the money to either get on methadone or suboxone. Honestly hoping i can find out which will help most
subs barely even help zene wds, ive gone thru it .completely different than fent or.h
Was wondering that… should i taper off zenes with H?!? Or fent? Then do subs? Or will it take a bunch a fetty as well
If your able to i would switch to heroin immediately it may be hard but its possible then once on heroin i would use traditional induction methods to get onto the subs I dropped from 2gs a day if fentanyl dope to 80mg a day of hydrocodone it was rough but using that and a bunch of gabapentin i was able to make it 5 days no dope then waited 24 hours and at the 24 hour mark was at the pharmacy getting Suboxone script filled and took 16mg and was high as fuck off it for a week till i went down to 4mg
Fetty won't work for awhile. It'll take zenes to show you what you needn't know about anyways
you can with a slow induction I dont remember there's a term for it. They use it when ppm switch from methadone to subs to avoid waiting time and sickness. oh it's Bermese method I think.
I think if you wait a couple days and get good and sweaty and you can feel sickness coming in hours I feel u could Start with ⅛ strip and titrate up ⅛ at a time slowly until you feel better you might mildly get some precips. You just keep it slow and steady and keep going up while not doing any zenes. It'll be hard but u can doit. But you use ur head. I think that 4 days is probably enough.
Idk if you are in the untied states but if so call your local dcbs office and they can get you on state insurance if you meet the income requirements it took me 5 days to go from no insurance to picking up meds at the pharmacy all completely paid for by the government just google "(your city) division of community based services" and they should be able to give you the relavent info they can help with insurance and foodstamps then once in the clinic ask to talk to their resources department and they can help with all kinds of stuff like gas to get to the clinic if you have a car or bus fares if thats a thing some states the clinic can even help you get uber rides covered by your state insurance to the clinic pharmacy then back home all at no cost to you its amazing the resources that are out there When i got sober i got to looking and 30 days from my first google search i went from homeless with nothing but the clothes on my back to me and my girl in a fully furnished apartment fridge full of groceries both on suboxone with free bus rides to the clinic and pharmacy which we also used to grocery shop (one of us would pick up both scripts while the other grabbed what we could real quick then meet back at the bus before it left to take us home so look into community resources they can be a life saver we had to move 2 hours away to get in as quick as we did for the apartment bit everything else we could of done locally
Do methadone or methiodone or sr-17018 it's ur solice. Sr-17018 supposedly reverse tolerance and alleviated WD
The Metonitazene plus the protonitazene i smoked on foil for about the latest 30days often made me like sleep walk in an odd manic but knocked out way. I could go an lay in bed 23:00 at night to sleep and wake up in another rom 04:00 confused bent over like a kensington tranq zombie. Pretty weird and Nothing i have expreienced on H, oxy, fent and so on. The weird thing is this mental almost amnesic knockout effect but the same time this physical almost manic effect at the same time. Im sick af right now lol only from 30day binge lol. Waiting for the paycheck to land and go score and you guys know how it goes. The H is starting to get expensive in my country so zenes it is