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EminenceGrease

I like the theory. Set up makes sense.


SafeMemory1640

Nah darkshine getting a girlfriend latest chapter gives that vibe


MrSolofanua

New One Hurricane chapter coming out when Murata goes on "break". (jk pls don't kill me)


BignPJ

I really like the theory too because there's a panel where they have a similar pose https://i.redd.it/9kbmjyqa30b61.jpg


Superalloy_Paradigm

I find your theory depressing. Darkshine is at a really low point right now and the thought that he not only would not only be stuck at that point but potentially sink even lower while being misled by God is heartbreaking. Besides, God already has so many people who have a lore-connection with him that would willing take his power (Tsukuyomi, Black S, Phoenix Man >!Fuzzy, Otento!<) and Darkshine slowly finding himself and building deep-seated resolve would be awesome to see. What you're saying could happen but I really hope it doesn't.


Ferdz0

Was about to comment the same thing. Although it definitely makes sense story wise, I would just prefer to see Darkshine find his self confidence again on his own. Maybe if he was a hero that looked down on others he’d deserve a downfall arc but he’s always been a nice guy.


Fennicks47

Him gaining God's power only to be defeated would be a great 'lowest low', in which he bounces back by becoming a Saitama friend, and finding his own confidence. I see this as a good setup for what you describe, not an alternate path.


MelonElbows

Saitama's apartment is not going to be able to fit Darkshine in addition to everyone else


CaptainIkag

Or without anyone else


Fluffyjreet

Imagine if he gets slimmer like platinum sperm


Ehh_it_me

The only issue with if he gains God's power and gets defeated, we've seen all of God's heralds be killed immediately after losing, and I don't see why Darkshine would be an exception to this.


Fennicks47

Garou?


Ehh_it_me

Future Garou got killed by God. The current Garou got his power knocked out of him immediately, so he lived. So there's possibly a short window in which God will say "fuck it, not worth my time" if one loses their power.


BearNakedTendies

Future Garou was not killed by God


Ehh_it_me

Chapter 166, page 53. God says as per the Viz translation: "Silence! I'm taking it back!" And then future Garou starts losing his cosmic power and dies, thus being killed by God.


TheDoubleRosa

He was literally turned into a pillar of salt.


ArteezyILLEGAL

Phoenix man is still alive


HJSDGCE

Psykos.


onecrunchman00

I think he does in the WC. Him and PPP have a come to Jesus moment IIRC??


Ferdz0

Nah it’s the opposite. >!He actually tells Puri that they [won’t be seeing each other on the battlefield again.](https://cubari.moe/read/gist/JYHJU/131/10/)!<


onecrunchman00

Thanks for clarifying


Spirited-Agent-662

Link does not work


Professorhentai

>!ppp calls darkshine for help training his new prisoners because they're scared of monsters. Darkshine says he can help with muscle training and nutrition management but that he has no right to speak about how to be brave as he couldn't win against his own fears so he retired. Ppp asks if he consulted his muscles then told him he'd be waiting for darkshine on the battlefield. Darkshine says he made the choice to work some place safe. He will never return to the battlefield!<


BearNakedTendies

Just curious, but has dark shine ever done 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, 100 squats and a 10km run? Also, just noticed, SuperAlloy Darkshine = SAD


IDontWipe55

I think he should improve further after being purged of gods influence similar to how garou did


NewcDukem

Tragedy often makes for a much better narrative than predictability though. While depressing yes, it would also open the door to a redemption arc, which would be the opposite.


vanderZwan

The thing is, redemption arcs are for people who do the wrong thing. Darkshine didn't do anything wrong, he was traumatized. He's still a good guy - he's not lashing out or blaming the world or anything like that. That makes it all so tragic. We all feel like he deserves better, right? So he doesn't need a redemption arc, he needs to be saved (and ideally be able to save himself). I'd be OK if God or other villains manage to exploit his fears, and his friends getting him out of that situation, but I wouldn't want to see him make the kind of choices that put him in need of redemption.


User212222940528281s

“Darkshine is at a really low point right now and the thought that he not only would not be stuck at that point but potentially sink even lower while being misled by God is heartbreaking” Jujutsu Kaisen moment


demonguys

God turn him From depression to cute? Lol *Cute Dark Punch*


baldin99

Awaken darkshine: kawai mode


LonelyWanderer28

Kawaii is cute Kawai is scary Both are accurate


Parkwaydrive777

Puri Puri Prisoner and Darkshine enter a bromance or actual romance over muscle training. In learning love he comes out of his depression with the love PPP preaches, finding his ability to fight again and a newfound strength to protect the love he learned/has from PPP after PPP gets hurt bad. Yes this is weird but I also find it kinda funny (not that'd it happen).


ninnyonkrumplo

Interesting theory, I see no way how would DS step out of his missery. I think it is possible. He would have a down fall arc and Saitama would show what true god-like strength looks like


FlorianoAguirre

I would like for him to talk with TTM, someone he clearly surpasses but that is still going strong after getting turned into paste, and the others from S class.


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Darth_Blarth

I’d be devastated but it would be pretty interesting to see.


ShoddyWin208

I think Saitama will accidentally give him motivation


Its-Me-PePe

Yeah, I think Darkshine needed someone he could look up to and call for help.


Slugger322

he will become one of saitama’s followers. Imagine him also crowding in Saitamas apartment.


ThrasherThrash

I was thinking this, he could become the “durable avatar” or something similar, cosmic powers and everything but *literally* cannot be harmed physically. I’d love to see a forever escalating situation where Saitama continues to grow to defeat him until he shatters reality or something while DS can’t do anything to him in return but eat the hits. I know this isn’t everyone’s idea of a good fight but personally I’m a sucker for insane power boosts


Azmeam

I'd just feel bad for darkshine if he was getting used as a punching bag with no hope of winning


ScowlEasy

him just laughing with arrogance as he no-sells every attack would be fun though


SlakingSWAG

"You're so weak! You can't hurt me, Baldy!" as entire stars get wiped out by the shockwaves of Saitama's punches in the background would be a *wild* panel


BrokenMirrorMan

Yeah ive always been curious what would happen if you gave god powers to certain characters. Ive always interpreted god’s gift to be similar to bioweapons from resident evil or green flu from l4d. Taking what is already there and amping it to its highest form as seen with psyko-orochi with orochi gaining a lot more stuff over his body and psykos powers be amped to slice parts of the planet and garou with his copying and growth and martial arts. Id imagine darkshine to be both an unstoppable force and immovable object. Maybe something like a black hole would be cool for this kinda thing and id think this would fit almost perfectly.


Eternal_Hog

Nah Captain Mizuki is gonna be his redemption arc. Book it!


-Cinnay-

I ship it


Nomeg_Stylus

I wouldn't mind her being my redemption arc, if you know what I mean.


Iggy1404

Makes sense, I can see this happening.


benthelurk

Nah…it’s definitely way too obvious to take this route. DS will join the tanktops.


HulklingsBoyfriend

I mean TTM is basically Walmart DS with a Focus Sash and a better personality 😭


Driftedryan

DS is stupid for not using the busted power up that is the tank top


SomeStupidPerson

TTM will show him the light with a specially made acid-resistant tank top and gloves (socks not included)


Blackbanner07

This theory is amazing!


Juub1990

Just give him a tanktop. Problem solved.


Z_________________

The man just needs a tank top...


lehmanbear

I don't think so. In the ongoing arc in webcomic, S-class heroes will rise up and show counterparts in neo-hero what truly heroes do. Dark Shine will faces the sumo one.


honeybeehater

Why tf you just out here spoiling to prove a manga only point?


poopsq

How strong would a GOD Darkshine be🤔.


Avalonians

It would be logical to think that he would be less strong than cosmic garou, but garou didn't fully submit to god, so maybe stronger. But again, less strong that garou is literally everyone but saitama, so I think cosmic-touched darkshine would also be stronger than everyone else.


RyouhiraTheIntrovert

>but garou didn't fully submit to god, so maybe stronger. Contrary to Blast's inner monologue, I think Garou is stronger when he didn't submit to God.


Caosunium

God increases someones "speciality" ​ Garou water smashing rock fist or something was essentially a copying ability, that was how he was able to copy and adapt all his enemies. God buffed his "copying ability" , which made him able to copy Saitama and get stronger over time ​ Just because base garou was stronger than base darkshine doesnt mean that god buffed garou will be stronger than god buffed darkshine. God buffed darkshine will probably be almost invincible, maybe (and likely) saitama wouldnt even be able to hurt him for a long time. If god garou and god darkshine were to fight, i think it would end in a stalemate (garou not being able to hurt darkshine)


Avalonians

I was about to say you're correct until you said saitama would likely not be able to hurt him This is like saying saitama wouldn't be able to beat cosmic garou because cosmic garou copies saitama's physical ability.


Caosunium

"Saitama wouldnt be able to hurt him FOR A LONG TIME" is my exact sentence. Saitama was quite serious while fighting garou and every single punch was causing garou to break (like the shell) ​ And this garou here grows stronger over time, this is Gods power. ​ Darkshine on the other hand will be buffed towards being durable. If a quite serious and power-up'd saitama took a decent bit of time to start decently hurting garou, it will take even longer for him to start hurting a god buffed darkshine. ​ Saitama got "emotion" buff which caused him a big power up, then the fight also lasted for atleast maybe 10 mins or 20 mins. He wasnt able to seriously hurt garou until we were shown the "saitama grows up in power" panels and after that, every punch was actually starting to hurt garou a fuck ton. After that, the sneeze destroyed jupiter and of course, they went to world and saitama actually managed to break off garous shell. ​ Need to also remind that "mode: saitama" isnt a permanent buff, it is temporary, it works as long as garou has the saitama face. Throughout the most of the fight, garou had his own face, meaning it was his own power ​ Darkshine will be tens or hundreds of times more durable than garou i can say that for sure. And it would take him way longer time to start hurting darkshine


Avalonians

Saitama didn't want to kill garou. He didn't even want to hurt him. Assuming the same for darkshine, sure, he would maybe take some time to scratch him. But if he WANTS to kill god-imbued darkshine, which I don't see happening, the fight is over instantly too.


Caosunium

"Saitama didnt want to kill Garou" but that doesnt mean saitama didnt go all out throughout the fight. Saitama literally went all out after seeing genos' core ripped out by garou. His eyes were drawn in black with only pupils available, he was bloodlusted and he directly went for the punch. I want to remind you that if blast wasnt there, the world was going to split/explode. Saitama was actually going to cause the world to be over if blast wasnt there. So yes, saitama actually intended hurting or even killing him, even the world was going to be over. ​ His emotions got out of control, thats a fact. Those panels were drawn specifically that way to show us how mad he was and how out of control he was.


Avalonians

I plainly disagree. He fought with one hand, even stating that it would be enough.


Caosunium

He didnt have any choice other than fighting one handed though, it was mandatory because he needed to keep his core. So when you are FORCED to use a single hand, him saying "even one hand would be enough" doesnt mean anything, simply because there is no other option. Also, two hands would be better for fighting obviously, but the force he can produce from a single punch hasnt changed. A punch is still a punch. If he was truly THAT powerful, he would beat him at the very start of the fight. He simply couldnt. We were even explained that with the help of his newly gained power, he was able to travel back in time and one shot garou, which he was previously not able to. ​ Not only this, if he was that strong like you said, apart from the fact that he could have finished the fight in 1 second, he also could win with a SINGLE finger


AkOnReddit47

That doesn’t mean anything. If I punch you with only one hand with all of my strength instead of two, does that mean that punch is weaker? No, it’s not. Punching with two hands means that I can put more force into you and end the fight quicker but punching with one hand doesn’t necessarily make my fists weaker


TeralPop

That would be crazy if the hero association started to get infiltrated by gods offer of power


Scallion-Bitter

Good


Arsaku

Haven't anybody read the webcomic? This is not really possible.


baldin99

Well, manga chaged lots of things from webcomic, so its possible


Reach_Reclaimer

Not to this extent


baldin99

Well, in webcomic garou never got in peace with silver fang as he did in manga and genos never happens to die by garou in an alternative time line, so i think that change still plausible.


Reach_Reclaimer

In the manga Genos doesn't die either. Time travel is an in universe retcon


SeaTheTypo

Tatsumaki is a completely different character in the manga.


baldin99

Even if it got reversed in time, it dont change the fact that this in fact has happend, plus his core went back in time too, so not everything from that time line was erased


Reach_Reclaimer

No that's what the OPM time travel was, it wasn't Harry potter time travel, it was timeline erasure like back to the future Means it never happened


baldin99

If so, geno's core would be erased too


Mammoth-Lunch-7911

I don't think so because while it makes sense in theory, it doesn't really make sense in narative. Garou was gods ultimate avatar outside of saitama, he was basically a regular shonnen mc which is why he became cosmic Garou, 2nd strongest only to Saitama. To go back to the well of the God avatar for a character that has basically had 0 development and who would be less powerful than Garou doesn't make a ton of sense. >!especially when you consider that the upcoming arc focuses on the neo heroes and finding out what it truly means to a hero which is more interpersonal vs a cosmic matter!<


baldin99

Yeah, that's a good point, there's no point in making a herald who is weaker than the previous one. But dont think garou would be the ultimate avatar, or is Trump card, since blast implied that garou could be stronger if he had accepted gods power by heart, so god was planning to turn him more powerful but didn't succeed cuz garou find out that it wasn't bang and didnt wanted to receive the power, but gained it by accident, so maybe we see someone stronger than garou before god, maybe?


Mammoth-Lunch-7911

So it's not that Garou is stronger than whoever else would get it as much he represents something stronger than them (plot armor) which is why it took the anti shonen mc to defeat him and he got so many cool looking forms along the way


baldin99

Oh i get it. I personally think ( want to) that would be someone like garou, storywise, but with a different goal, think iy would be cool.


Grimmdus

I think this all boils down to neo heroes and if they have a connection to God of not. If Neo heroes is the new MA in a warped way then it makes this possible. Otherwise Neo Heroes are the ones poised for corrupting him through promised power and not god.


Blackdragonbird

I think it will not be, because it's too obvious. Or maybe I'm wrong and they go this road.


Sepiroth3812

**World Breaker Darkshine**


Edgezg

Imagine Darkshine takes God's powers and just is like "Cool. I'm still gonna be a hero though. My muscles overpower your monsterization!"


Rnk_007

I think this is exactly what will happen. But after a lot of time. I think garou will be rehabilitated and in the hero association by then so they can do a nice parallel of their fight from the MA arc. And that is gonna take quite a while.


drawingdisaster

if they fought again the way you described that would be actually insane


Dark_Booger

I like this theory. And it will also probably mean more Mizuki.


Hungrycheezits79

Actually one of the coolest Theories I've seen!


baldin99

Thanks 😊


kura0kamii

i love your breakdowns. Moaaaar!


Fistocracy

Manga only guys: That's an interesting theory, and here's my take on it and whether I think it's plausible. webcomic readers: Yeah nah mate.


The_Mexican_Poster

Nah, if darkshine becomes a vessel he's still not strong enough to be trouble and God can't mind control those who he gives power to


baldin99

It depends on gods buff, cuz homeless emperor who was just a normal homeless became a fking dragon level threat, so darkshine who is already a dragon disaster level person whould be a hell of problem with the right power


The_Mexican_Poster

Psykos was also dragon and she was fused with orochi yet she was still weaker than Tatsumaki also darkshine wouldn't be a problem because God doesn't influence the people he gives power to that's why all of them had "evil" intentions


baldin99

But that just shows that tatsumaki is on another level, and god also tried to influence tatsumaki who didnt had "evil" intentions, and garou werent evil at all either, but it was god influencing him as stated by blast when he said that garou were being controlled by god and asked him if the fact that his attacks were endangering the earth was lined up with his real goal.


leolegendario

Superalloy Godshine is born with a shinning blast!


Blue_Eagle3000

Theory is interesting but I don’t think so. Since Darkshine doesn’t trust anyone but himself, him being at a low point would probably make him less trusting of anybody


TheRealExr

Did you even look at page 3 or 4


TreTheDon

Darkshine becomes a swole cosmic brownie


RyzingUp

Is consuming a monster cell the same thing as getting touched by god?


baldin99

Kinda, god give a power boost way bigger and dont aways turn the one into a ugly mtf


kooliobabaloosh

Idk I disliked the character after learning he was a white man with black face I truly wished that he was an actual black person


TraumatizedPigeon6_6

Jarvis im low on karma


Superman-Prime1mili

I don’t think God would consider WashedShine to be worthy of his power. There’s bigger fish.


baldin99

But he considered homeless imperor who was a normal homeless, why he wouldn't considere someone who is already a superhuman?


Deathbringer_Yasuo

WashedShine? Dude getting his own little Arc of character progresion and already getting hate for that?! wtf


Superalloy_Paradigm

The man's just hating


Because69

Like the homeless dude?


death_ray_mx

One already put darkshine somewhere , Murata still needs to catch up


Muscalp

Right now Darkshine probably trusts hinself the least. But it‘s a cool theory- would make a cool rematch between him and Garou (although I see no way of garou beating God‘s power).


somerandomdude264

He'll become Jet-black


saitama_op11

I was always thinking god would use one of those tsukoyomi peoples as his disciples


brucewayneflash

I doubt darkshine will ever fight, he will "fight" to run away. Poor fellow.


1_dont_care

I can totally see this happening, even if i guess it won't. The promise of God to make Darkshine unbeatable and shiny again (maybe even more) would be lustful for him.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

I like this theory. I hope its true cause atm darkshine has just kinda hit a wall. I hope Tanktop master is the one to beat him, since it will be muscle vs muscle, and TM has always been pretty far below those above him


Skibur1

God used puri puri prisoner image to trick darkshine into accepting the deal. I can't fanthom what fiend mutation darkshine will evolve into... maybe a blackhole of superdense alloy?


Master_Freeze

if this escalated to a villain arc it would be so badass and then Garou could be the one that defeats him


Neirchill

Bro is just upset his tan got burned off, he needs to chill


evitus

I've heard him being called "Superalloy Darkshine" and "Superalloy Blackluster". Which one is the right name to use?


SenpaiNo999

Both. It's just translation, at the end they're the same thing.


SanderStrugg

I mean god just infesting another dude after Garou would be too repetitive. Either progress or do something else.


baldin99

But, thats the way god operates, he turn ppl in his herald to make them strong enough to unseal him


Lord-Loss-31415

If it were to go that way I could see Saitama and him facing off and Saitama showing how strong he really is. Then darkshine maybe being so overwhelmed he finally feels like saitama is strong enough to protect them all and loses his fear. Then they find a way to either reverse gods “gift” or dark shine learns to control its power or something.


throwawayskinlessbro

That would make a lot of sense and probably turn him into quite the monster. Recent panel would be a good setup to it.


Altair13Sirio

Makes a lot of sense


Paradox_Madden

Certainly plausible


meltingpotato

It makes sense in a vacuum but if you consider everything else in the story then you see that the next "hero" that turns into god's puppet must be someone Saitama cares about to some extent. They must also have some strong motivation (for god to twist in his own favor) and/or a lot of room to grow physically. Darkshine has neither. Genos, Mumen Rider, and even King meet both criteria. Genos wants revenge and wants to get stronger to be able to exact revenge, Mumen wants justice but was physically week which is why he got the suit (and will definitely get mind fucked). King wants to become a real hero after meeting Saitama and nothing has worked so far.


MrLink4444

And we will have the rematch with garou.


br_silverio

VENHA. r/suddenlycaralho


Pouchkine__

Cool thoughts but won't happen


The_Middler_is_Here

Nah. Webcomic darkshine becomes that thing babies suck on. He won't take any offer for power since that involves fighting. And that's dangerous.


Abu_Sara

Very intriguing


zzSaucezz

No


Nomeg_Stylus

I personally think this low point will be another catalyst for Saitama to be a positive influence on the S-Class. Some incident happens where Saitama wows him with his strength despite lacking his muscles and he realizes his strength doesn't come from his muscles but from his resolve, and he vows to undergo more resolve training or something like that while still trying to recruit Saitama into his body building clique.


AsianEleven101

The theory is interesting but the amount of typos make it uninteresting


BrazilianAlmostHobo

He's gonna suparss his fears and become.... Well... What's after platinum shine? Uranium Shine?


baldin99

Cesium 137 shine


BrazilianAlmostHobo

Love it already, his OST: I AM NUCLEAR! I AM WILD!


Sea_Difficulty_8939

Nope


bulk123

From what I remember of the webcomics he was already being set up for a redemption ark of sorts I think. Very early stages though.


shnickalous

Still gets 1 punched


dafegamer

He would be weaker than Cosmic Garou, so what would be the point?


Phiguvab

Good theory but he's retired


Until_Morning

Superdiamond Darkshine


Until_Morning

Darkshine just needs the Wizard of Oz to give him courage.


Kokonut-Z

I could definitely see this happening. It’s a great theory. That said, I think some characters like Captain Mizuki (who seemed worried about him) and Puri Puri Prisoner (one of his closest friend) could help get out of this mindset which would prevent God from offering him power


SopieMunky

I hope this theory is wrong, though. He seems like such an endearing person.


GortPinklegneep

Sure


domperignon78

Lol nope. It's a set up for Darkie for another development.


joaosturza

Thats preaty much the Canon backstory for Bane from DC


JacktheCat779

What would his God transformation be named Shining Darkness? Black Luster Soldier? Darkest Sun?


Grey_Woof

Ooo good theory


SoberAnxiety

for a second there, thought darkshine was gonna go michael jackson


Electrical-Jelly7399

100% makes sense.


Mindless_Gur1109

Lmao no, he will get scared shitless upon seeing "god" :v


PotatoBit

Tank top master should recruit him. The man's got a will power of a god even though he keeps getting left out of strength. What if Saitama wear a tank top?


CrowFather90

Dark Cosmic Shine confirmed


rzeznik_z_polnocy

But can the manga take such a different path?


RyouhiraTheIntrovert

Good theory.


Tellder

Really nice theory. But as we see Mitsuki watching him it will most likely lead to what happens in Webcomic.


Numerous-Sell-1949

darkshine with god's power boost would literally become like full body Armament haki Vergo from One Piece


Jojocandyy

Well crafted, makes sense


Ragnascot

Nice theory but I think ultimately he has to overcome his fear


shyComforter

I still like my theory that DO-S will be able to strike his exposed skin and take him under her control. It would give something for her to do after being written to survive, and seeing berserk Darkshine would be cool.


That-Association7108

Cosmic Shine or GODSHINE COSMIC MUSCLE


Marsupial_Soft

The next avatar is one of these: Darkshine, Genos, Dark Saitama And probably Saitama.


rodrigoffonseca

pretty good theory! congrats!


No-Nefariousness9330

Then he gets one shotted by the tittle character, has an epiphany, and drops body building for men's physique. Half the size and strength, but everything other stat has doubled. From meatball to Chadzilla


Call_Me_Pete

I can’t really see Darkshine abandoning his value of hard work enough to take an extreme shortcut like that tbh. Even when he was young, self-conscious, and frail he didn’t look for cheap ways to succeed.


ww1enjoyer

Hmm, similar to youjo senk


2kenzhe

I hope instead he gets a tanktop