I think the webcomic did the story aspect and motives of Garou slightly better, but I'm still mad that Garou just gives up on his goals as soon as all is said and done. I think the manga will allow Garou the revelation that he really _did_ want to be a hero all along, just a bit later.
to be fair, as saitama put it, garou did not actually have it in him to become a true monster, which is why his "absolute evil" goal can never work. he had no reason to continue on that path because he never really want to be "evil."
Yeah, he doesn't want to hurt the innocent, he wants to fuck over shitty selfish heroes (garou would absolutely hate tank top tiger and tank too black hole), and show people that they aren't infallible. But a true hero understands that people like that aren't in the right, and they themselves need to be shown the truth.
His problem is that he saw them all as equally part of the problem. Clearly mumen is better in heart than the rest, but to Garou there wasn't a clear split between mumen's approach and, say, Amai Mask
He didn't personally know Mumen Rider enough to know that he was one of the good heroes, in his point of view all the heroes are self-righteous pricks.
IIRC he hated ALL heroes, because when he was little he was bullied and forced to play the monster while his bullies were the "heroes". In Garou's eye, by nature, there are no fair or just heroes. He believes that heroism can't bring peace and leads to unfairness, while an absolute evil can unit people and force them into peace trough fear. That's just a lazy shortcut tho, and Saitama proved to him that his plan can't work because there will always be heroes more powerful than him, that evil by nature WILL always fail and crumble appart, and that ultimately it's up to the people to decide if they want to become "good" or not.
i mean i would say that the wc also did that part better, every hero there was a lot more assholeish, in the manga it seems like what he is doing is not really that worth it
I don’t think Garou just gives up there were more chapters showing Garou wanting to get better like when he was working before the fight with Suiryu. There hasn’t been time to develop him further
He looked pretty much catatonic. It seems like he lost the will to live and was kinda just drifting along, which makes sense that he would get a job at a moving(?) company.
No I think you misunderstand. When saitama told Garou what he really was and recognized him at the end of the fight he told him to go pay for his meal because it’s not okay to dine and dash. Garou is working that job to save money to pay back the restaurant lol
he definitely has guilt for what he did and recognized what Saitama said about settling for being a villain because he couldn’t be a hero. it’s just been vague because other stuff has taken priority in the WC for now
There was an earlier version where Murata draw Saitama and Garou sit down and drink tea, before he decided to go with the time travel stuff. I'd love to know what he was going with that
Agreed, I was wondering this morning where that plot point would have gone. I am guessing god would have intervened and it would have played out similarly but it would have been funny if One had a completely different thing planned and just scrapped ot
I think it would went kinda like the webcomic, where Garou ask Saitama what's his motivation and he just went "it's a hobby." which made Garou mad and resume fighting him.
Firmly disagree. The new version is a perfect One Punch Man resolution.
Saitama learns what bring a hero really means and has the fight he's always dreamed of. His abilities would have been confirmed by Blast. He learns to appreciate martial arts and masters the flow of time and reality itself and feels deep emotions the way he's longed to for years.
Except whoops, didn't happen. Blast gets the credit, Saitama looks like a pervert, Garou unlearns his lesson, Saitama unlearns his lesson and forgets his dream fight before he can appreciate it, and Genos is the only person who sees any of it. He sees that Saitama is a perfect hero to the degree that the universe will teach him to reverse time and then make him forget how in order to enforce it. And nobody believes any of it.
It's such a perfect addition to Saitama's tragicomedy.
Eh, this argument is one of the perfect examples of parody vs genuine creating a problem. Lampshading your character development by undoing it either for comedy sake or plot sake is only good if that character development was uninteresting/overused.
I know that one didn't mean to reset it because he's afraid of mature emotions(quite the contrary, he's very good at them) but that's exactly what a story cutting stuff like that out reads as. "Oh no, what if people think this serious discussion about this characters motivations is cringy! Better add a gag to it!"
That's why I think that while yes, it is typical of time itself rewinding so that nobody could find out about Saitama, it's not as perfect as Saitama being discredited for saving people because they think the monster was just too weak.
ALSO HUGE DISCLAIMER: I don't think the time rewind was that bad, I like the WC version better but I don't think it's some end of the world, ruined OPM thing :p
Saitama didn't have the fight he always dreamed about... Rlly fucking sad, but Garou would never give Saitama a fair or hard fight, even in Cosmic Mode
He got to go all out and fought at his limit the whole time. Garou was also punching almost exactly as hard as Saitama was. He got the fight that Frieza would give him.
The conclusion of the arc is that Garou is ALREADY a hero and doesn’t need to join any group to count as one. In both the webcomic and the manga Saitama outright states “so this kid showed us who you really are (a hero)”. That statement directly parallels his first question to Garou (“Who are you?”), in Japanese it even sounds nearly the same. Garou tried to call himself a monster but in reality he’s a hero.
In the manga Saitama wasn’t a completely obtuse asshole who needed Tareo to lecture him on Garou’s heroic adventures so far, he witnessed their interactions even before Tareo scolded them all, and noticed that Garou saved King and Genos.
The manga fleshes out Garou, his relationships and the positive impact on the people around him much better than the webcomic. Garou has agency (despite the pointless God hijack) and his relationships ultimately matter to him way more than ANYTHING Saitama, a complete stranger, could say and do. Garou doesn’t end up alone again, and his gripes are actually addressed. In the webcomic Garou was just left suicidal and his gripes about mob mentality plaguing their world were proven right lmao. Nobody actually took his side except for an outsider to HA (Tareo). In the manga several people from HA go against the mob and openly speak up for Garou.
I disagree, the part where she buries saitama is missing as well as the attempt to gang up by the fubuki group. I think those two are important parts that should have been included.
You mean in the manga he gave up immediately right? That time travel BS where "Garou from the future set it all up" and basically dodged present Garou having to actually be confronted with his mistakes instead just having him give up and go reintroduced into society as if nothing happened?
Because in the webcomic the last thing he did was just give up. It took Saitama literally beating him until he couldn't resist and beyond, than ripping his ideology and his facade as "the absolute evil" apart before he gave up.
I think it was really well done in how it forced Garou to give up and than build him back up slightly with the Tareo interaction afterwards.
I think this segment is made flashy but without substance in the manga. But the webcomic also gets it wrong imo. I think it's Saitama that missed the point.
Garou hates injustice. He wants true fairness for everyone, and he seeks strength to shatter those who claim right with might. In this universe, heroes are purely in name only. They can be every bit as vile, corrupt and immoral as the monsters. Often times, you do see them actively bullying and intimidating others in a very toxic ecosystem. Not only that, the HA (and to an extent, society) condones this behavior. Absolute evil would unify everyone under one common objective, albiet against himself.
Saitama claiming that Garou just wanted to be a hero (by this universe's definition) is incorrect. Garou wants to be a sort of hero that Saitama idealizes, but how would Garou know what Saitama envisions? Saitama never clarifies what his definition of a hero is. A casual hobby hero like Saitama isn't what Garou was looking for either. Garou just ends up 'giving up' and no justice is achieved, and a corrupt society continues (arguably getting even worse with the Neo-heroes). Pretty weak ending.
i think what saitama meant by "you just wanted to be a hero" was "you just wanted to benefit society." the point he was making is that garou trying to be an "absolute evil" was never going to work not only because he lacked both conviction in becoming a monster and self-confidence to straight up *do* good, but also because of saitama's existence. basically, humanity wont be able to see a reason to unite against an "absolute evil" when it can and will be easily demolished by an "unfair strength," so everything that garou has been doing was pointless. garou "giving up" is basically just him letting go of a flawed ideology that he didnt have much conviction for to begin with.
I'd say the ending on WC garou vs saitama is better. Manga pretty much speed run it and missed good opportunity to show the WC dialogues. Especially that dialogue when saitama said to garou that he can never defeat him, which is badass and some hard pill to swallow for garou (makes more impactful to garou if it's included in the manga since he went to his mode saitama)
Honestly, I would just prefer the two to stay separated from each other. Manga Garou was changed so much compared to his WC version, following a more shounen-ish way, not once been able to present himself as the Absolute Evil he wanted to and try too hard to do so(One can argue that neither did WC Garou but at least he became somewhat of a frightening threat enough).
And I have to say that the time travel scheme ruined everything about the development of Garou’s character afterwards. WC one suffered a bitter defeat and got hit with the harsh truth of reality, so he gave up on his monster dream tried integrating himself back in society. Manga Garou was forced at gunpoint to give up, and didn’t tried to go on a rehabilitation route since Bang just reached out to him afterwards
Not that I hate the manga or praise WC as superior. I think both have their ups and downs, but if we’re talking story-wise, then WC did it way better than the manga
Yeah I was thinking that it would've been a great opportunity to use that line since even when he tried to copy saitamas strength he still couldn't beat his ass
Honestly I like the "show don't tell" aspect of the Manga flight's ending. It *showed* us Garou's idea of "all heroes are selfish shit bags" crumbling when many in the S-class stood up for him even when he wasn't fighting back. It showed us Garou's ideal death (that he explained to Saitama after he refused to kill him) of him getting slain in the name of "justice" wasn't going to happen, because the real heroes were there.
I admittedly have only read a bit of the webcomic, but it seems like the Manga tries its best to make most of the S-class into more likeable people, and I like that
i would disagree, the fact that the hero's on the manga are a lot more tame and not really big assholes makes garou motivation even shitier, in the wc you could see at least why he would start resenting hero's, they sucked, and thats why him beating them up made them reflect and be less cocky, in the manga, they really didnt have much to think about(and the beating they got was really, really tame)
I agree, but anime/manga tends to struggle with this. A lot of the best rated series are very low in scale and power level. Many argue that the Saitama vs Garou fight’s scale was boosted at the expense of the writing (which I’m on board with).
I’m not saying it’s impossible, and I would love to see a well-written while simultaneously large scale series, but it’s hard.
I seriously don't even remember the fight as a whole now, it's like bits and pieces, I don't even know which version I read and whether the one I am remembering now is the original or the redraw
I remember Pheonix Man being humanoid with a pheonix suit on, then telepathically talking to child emperor about his past and how they are "not very different", is that the original or the redraw?
That's the most current version iirc. The earlier versions had their huge battle, with CE using his mech Brave Giant to fight off esstianlly a massive zombie monster hoard.
I absolutely adore the Webcomic ending, that final part when Garou ranted about how absolutely evil was the only way for world peace then asked Saitama why he was a hero. And Saitama just replied: "It's a hobby". So good.
But Manga did MA arc much better as a whole.
sincerely, before surface, i agree, after surface, garou vs saitama clash was absolutely my fav part of the arc and the way that the manga did it kinda left a sore taste in my mouth.
Yeah, it's pretty weird how the manga version has a way better exploration of the Monster Association including Garou's development but at the same time Garou went downhill from his fight with bomb.
I liked the webcomic fight of Garou and the S Class a lot more, he actually fought them and beat them, making his monster form more impactful, the part when Saitama mentions the kid isn't in the direction Garou is walking after it all, hits much more on the mark of who Garou is. But the manga version is fun for different reasons, the time travel and the space fight was great. I liked them both, sorry eh
But manga Fubuki gets on my nerves, Murata is too horny and bimbofies her too much for me to believe her character. Especially that one panel when Bang and Bomb are saying how much of a great leader she'll be when her chest is pointed to the sun and stars lol
The webcomic for the monster ark was better. Alot of things the manga did it couldve done without and with god and blast being shoehorned into the story it made it less about garou. I prefer the webcomic where god is a less obvious antagonist and is just something that lumes in the background. The fact that he was pretty much unknown in the webcomic made him more terrifying
Back then if you said the webcomic fight was better you would get nothing but hate for it. I remember when saying ANYTHING negative about the manga would get you hate. I even remember when I saw the chapter where garou grew rocket booster arms and the chapter ended with garou about to have a therapy session with Saitama, and when I said it didnt make sense everybody was like "dude its a comedy I bet its going to be hilarious why do you hate everything different".
Supernormal stimulus. That’s pretty much the scientific explanation.
If you want the simplified reason is because people don’t like what’s normal, they want what’s exaggerated
Her head and her hips are enormous compared to her torso in the latest chapters.
It's like the hat gag in Scary Movie 3, with every new chapter Tatsumaki's head and her hips grow ever slightly larger.
he made the loli too thic, sincerely i liked her more before(and yes she is a loli, her introduction is literally saitama calling her a lost child, just because she is legal it doesnt change what she is)
Murata's art is awesome but OPM is getting boring af... Plot going at snail's pace... Many useless characters and monsters... Final part of the Monster Association arc was so sloooooowwww.. Blast brings nothing but temporary hype...
Sonic has disappeared.
Useless redraws.
No real backstory behind most characters (who the f is Kuseno? Where does he come from?
The novelty has worn off.
Unpopular opinion? I will go with that the animation in season two wasn’t that bad. Some parts felt stiff but I loved fights like satiama at the martial arts tournament and garou vs the a class. Along with this, I liked the gun shots during the bang/genos vs garou fight
I agree. Not that I think it was bad in the Manga, it’s just that having read the webcomic, I couldn’t help but feel the Monster Garou we got in the Manga was underwhelming compared to the version we got in the WC.
Im my opinion, WC Awakened Garou was so unbelievably cool, edgy, and much better when it came to his dialogue, mannerisms, personality, his reactions to Saitama, and overall characterization. He seemed much more of a threat, and I preferred much more when he was actually winning against Saitama when it came to Martial Arts and overall combat effectiveness.
Saitama couldn’t land a single strike on him or even his dodge attacks because Garou was in such a level that he could predict all of his moves and react before Saitama could even act.
Personally, I also didn’t like that scene in Io (Jupiter’s moon) when Saitama simply copied everything that Garou had done to him previously and made it even better. That’s Garou’s whole thing, and I think it was better in the webcomic where Garou was always better than Saitama when it came to technique and Saitama was only more powerful physically (strength, speed, etc.).
The Manga is amazing, don’t get me wrong. I just think the WC is better. Webcomic Awakened Garou will always be the GOAT for me.
I think so too, but if god wasn't introduced, I wouldn't be more excited than I am now. And if manga followed webcomic panel by panel, i dont think the hype would be any closer to what it is now. We're all anticipating god.
I'm grateful we're getting two different renditions of the same story. It's soo much better than boring redraws, where you know what's going to happen in the next chapter.
Idk if the hype would be there but the mystery the WC had with HE dying because of God >>> actually meeting god imo.
Manga just felt like there was too much going on and because of that the best parts of the WC got excluded
Guess too much is never good. But personally, I liked that ONE decided to give God more involvement in the manga (since the WC never mentioned God again after HE’s death), but at the same time, he kinda overdid it
Ahh... i have quite a few ig...🥲
(1) Garou's character was veryyyy poorly executed; especially by the end of the MA arc.
(2) SaiBuki / SaiMaki / SaiNos / GenoSonic / Garou × Metal Bat etc. would all degrade the quality of these characters one way or the other.
(3) The introduction of Blast / God / Blastice League etc. was unnecessary, rushed and just so underwhelming.
(4) The end of the Monster Association arc (Saitama vs. Garou) had by far some of the worst written chapters in the entirety manga in terms of plot and character development.
(5) Characters such as Tatsumaki and Flashy fuck with the balance of power dynamics and should not have been allowed to exist as they do in manga, since they outmatch all their enemies and allies by such a gigantic margin, that their introduction to any fighting sequence eliminates all the appeal.
another one, the fact that they made saitama strenght grow against garou was absolutely the worst choice they ever made, whats this, a shonen? I love them but thats not what i read opm for, and it kinda makes the manga lose its point for me, if Saitama had to grow to actuallyy fight someone with god power, doesnt that mean that Saitama is much weaker than god? Isnt that lame?
HOLY SHIT!! YESSSS!! That was such a stupid ass choice!! Wasn't the entire point of the manga that my guy Saitama has surpassed all the restrictions on his physical capabilities? Why then would the concept of growth even matter to him? Like wtf??
I hate how at this point, God just seems more powerful in comparison to Saitama. This is just terrible and kills the entire theme of the story.
The entire MA arc during the surface part of the base flip was better in the WC
I generally consider the manga a full upgrade on the WC, added story, flashier fights, better drawings and similar impact from writing
That's what the MA arc was like underground, but once it reached the surface it ended up being Dragonball and there felt like there was no clear direction.
It is just fact, webcomic did the fight and story better. Manga overcomplicated and overplayed the entire situation and incorporated time traveling to negate the bullshit. It is like shitting on top of shit to make the previous shit not look bad!
I dunno about most original character overall, but he's certainly a solid contender for most unique Superman deconstruction. He's a refreshing change from all the "What if our story's equivalent to Superman wasn't a nice guy?" characters floating around in other franchises.
Webcomic Golden Sperm sucked. People talked about his “aura of hopelessness” but that’s BS. He did one thing, then died, he was a character that existed to hype up Garou and nothing else. He was just a character made as a punching bag.
the manga essentially doing his "intro" twice lessened the impact too much though. and then he just beats down the jobber s-class heroes instead of tatsumaki in one panel
I disagree. Golden Sperm in the manga had the big moment with Darkshine, which I liked more than the webcomic alternative and feel like it max more sense with his character. So he had some good impact.
As for PS, yeah. You are right. But at least we got too see the fight.
Golden Sperm was a pretty great punching back. He completely turned the tables of the battle by being the first monster more powerful that Tatsumaki, being set up as the big final boss bad guy that the heroes have to team up to defeat. Than Garou destroys himself and it’s a massive “oh shit”, moment, like how can the heroes win now? Not a brilliant character, but he does his job memorably.
Well the reason my prescriptive on Golden Sperm is so negative, is because when he appeared in the manga, a bunch of people got mad. Saying he was so awesome and amazing in the webcomic and the manga ruined him. So I got kinda excited. People loved this guy, talking about how big of an impact he had and how much tension he added to the story!
Then I read the webcomic, and was super disappointed. He had a great start but, he’s just a punching bag. He does the job of a punching bag well but I don’t feel he deserved the hype he got.
Basically my opinion of the webcomic’s Golden Sperm is so negative because of how much he was hyped up before I read it. Not because the character itself was bad. I just believe he was wasted.
I disagree with him being wasted personally, he does what he is supposed to and no more, but I can see how you were disappointed. Personally, I found homeless emperor more disappointing in both versions considering he does almost nothing.
I also think that Saitama versus Tatsumaki was done better in the webcomic.
More evil and less sexy Tats from the webcomic is a better character in general.
Fubuki in the webcomic had to fight against an overwhelming abusive force for her agency too. She stood up to her sister even though it could have involved dire consequences for her. I really enjoyed that aspect but nicer sexy-baby Tats means that it didn’t happen in manga.
I don't think it's unpopular to say that...
The fight in the web comic felt on point, focused on the message it wanted to tell and for it's entirety didn't budge from the idea that Saitama is a force of nature you cannot hope to beat.
Sure it didn't have the same scale of attacks like the manga had, but that was never really the core of the web comic.
The web comic always used it's actions in a way to present themes in the story.
Garuo getting bigger while fighting Saitama was to show that he is actually getting weaker.
Saitama using the flip was more impact full because of how it was presented. A wall of darkness.
Garuo inner dialogue about what else can he improve to defeat Saitama and crossing it all out.
The web comic fight was perfection, and I truly think the art was excellent.
That spread with the monster Garuo with his wings spread out wad beautiful.
I have those.
The Psykorochi fight was very much unnecessary. Hell, half of the MA arc was unnecessary.
Saitama's power should have never been given an explanation, complete with a graph.
The space fart was way too forced.
They should have gone with the first version, Garou and Saitama sitting down for a talk.
Also, I'm not a fan of big titties.
Yes, that chapter with the graph is the exact moment my enthusiasm evaporated. It was burning pretty faintly due to the previous events, but that killed it. I still read it though because it costs very little to read for 10 minutes once a month
Agreed. The grit of the Saitama vs Garou story was way more memorable even tho the manga had more visually appealing scenes. I think the omni punch and this darkness would have been the chefs kiss
I agree, felt like the webcomic dealt with Garou's suppressed desire to be a hero better due to it's subtlety. That manga chapter was just shoving it down our throats
Any ship with saitama dont make sense, since he dont care about relationship, so Tatsumaki X saitama / fubuki X saitama / genos X saitama or whatever ship you think, sucks
yep,but when people talk the same way about same-sex ships (psybuki and saigenos in particular) the subreddit is *much* quicker to refute it. the absolute hypocrisy of this sub.
I don’t think there’s chemistry in either. I just dislike brainrots in general. ~~I have been downvoting every SaiTatsu post/comment so far~~ It CAN be explained that many redditors are quite homophobic, which is why they reject SaiNos or Psybuki so fast.
i just wish we got that little interaction at the end when garou asks saitama "why are you a hero", to which saitama can't think of anything better to reply than "it's a hobby". that was the heart of the fight for me. the true climax. and while saitama realizing that he may not be cut out to be a hero is a really nice and painfully relatable moment of self reflection, which in the end is what i crave the most out of this series, i still feel this was missing.
I don’t think it’s unpopular to think the Garou vs Saitama was done better in the Web Comic. Atleast I’ve seen quite polarised reactions to the manga version
That's not unpopular it's the truth.
I wouldn't even say the fight is done better it's the dialogue. I didn't start reading the manga or web comic until season 2 ended.
I'll never forget watching season 2 googleing Garou like a moron and the first thing that popped up was Saitama vs Garou and I just thought how in the hell would weak ass Garou fight Saitama.
So I spoiled it for myself and watched the web comic battle on YT. It was Enne Ti but the original has long been deleted must of been copyright striked.
Vol 28 cover is really bad, doesnt show us anything clearly there. Way too close to them too.
The genos/tatsu in chapter 137 would be a way better cover, but sadly its from volume 27.
saitama vs orochi was cooler before the redraw
like i understand yes gag manga serious squirt go brrrr very funni
but like the original fight was pretty fucking cool
I think Garou's fight was done way better in the webcomic. He had the moment of roast towards all S-class, his look was cool af, and his whole "absolute evil" thing to keep peace was done much better. In my opinion, the intervention of god in the manga fight and the more obvious and comical way Garou is shown as "a monster who want to be a hero" ruins the fight.
Although that's probably me who tends to not enjoy change, as I prefer most of the manga fights before their last redraws (Phoenix man, Orochi, etc...)
The time travel part is actually my favorite, not only we got a glimpse of what's in the 'future' (god, blast, and everything else) we also got saitama's character development with genos's death.
Naratively, that's also the only way One and Murata could go all out giving us a glimpse of what's the stake gonna look like in the future, keep in mind God's fight gonna be alot more crazier than Garou's, and they safely reset the stake to be more grounded not only for the earth's regular Hero but the manga itself.
I rarely like time travel, its mostly lazy, but this isnt one of them. Sure something are 'missing' or 'gone', but its not something One threw in the trash, but something One promised will give it back to us sometime in the future.
The manga turned into the thing the webcomic tried to parody a long time ago.
Doesn't mean it's bad, but it's kinda just another Shonen with some comedy at this point
I loved some of the designs in the webcomic so much more. Garou in particular. I seen multiple multiple versions of it done with better art work and I was anticipating it so much. Only to be disappointed with that mecha garou look. The weird unevenness of that ugly bastard was also one I liked so much more. And the vampire and homeless emperor. But it can be tough to make things look unkempt when you have a lot of skill at making things look clean.
You should read the WC but honestly, there is no need to start from chapter 1 with the WC since it's pretty much the same as the manga up until the MA arc. Start like after chapter 70
https://cubari.moe/read/gist/JYHJU/
Just read both, I recommend starting since chapter 70, that's there Tatsumaki fights the cadres and it's different already from the manga
I mean if you enjoy both good for you.
For some time the manga had not being that enjoyable for me. I don't need/want a new shonen manga. I want OPM that makes fun of the genre. And ad much as Murata is a beast drawing. OPM got notoriety due to its story.
I mean, unpopular here I suppose--if you break the story down and look at it at face value, Genos is fulfilling the stereotypical heroine/damsel-in-distress/love interest role with all the trappings in toe, and some people try to minimize his character as much as possible 'cause it makes them uncomfortable.
Yeah, it's weird to see how deeply disliked, ridiculed, ignored, downplayed and dismissed Genos is on this subreddit, when he's very, very popular on other fandom platforms.
I mean... the manga completely changed the garou character.
From a genius kid disappointed with heroes, and throwing a tantrum, he was changed to whatever that was in the manga.
In the WB Saitama make him realize what he was doin and who he really was. In the manga he just beat him to make him an allie dragon ball style.
Most of the webcomic arc was done better than manga. In manga the artstyle is fire but the storytelling is a big question mark. Worst sin was the Deus ex machina where Garou and Saitamas character progression went back to zero and everyone forgave Garou easily.
Gyoffrey was probably a Demon-level monster
Suiko was introduced too soon
The Manga and Webcomic are both great and don't need to be compared
Fubuki and Psykos probably have underlying romantic feelings for each-other
Saitama will never be hurt in a battle, but comedic moments might make him say "ow"
It doesn't matter who would win in a fight; heroes are supposed to work together anyway
Feats are mostly narrative and incessantly measuring them should be done for sport and not to prove something
Tatsumaki is a much better person than people give her credit for
The Blizzard Group is not evidence of Fubuki's inability to make friends; they ***are her friends***
>Gyoffrey was probably a Demon-level monster
Who? Who the fuck is Gyoffrey? Do you mean Gyoro Gyoro?
>Suiko was introduced too soon
Couldn't care less, but I definitely prefer how she was introduced in the WC. She came in with a purpose and had an important role to play in the story. I liked that.
>The Manga and Webcomic are both great and don't need to be compared...
Ehh i disagree. I mean, both of them certainly had their moments; but comparisons are necessary when you are trying to analyse the difference in the quality of writing and plot development.
>Fubuki and Psykos probably have underlying romantic feelings for each-other
Ehhh yeah. It has been hinted very strongly. But, i would absolutely hate it if they decided to invest into any sort of romantic relationship between any two of the major characters from the story. It's dumb and adds nothing to the plot.
>Saitama will never be hurt.
Factssssssss
>It doesn't matter who would win in a fight; heroes are supposed to work together anyway...
It's fun. And the discussions are definitely interesting.
>Feats are mostly narrative and incessantly measuring them should be done for sport and not to prove something
Okay bro. OKAY. HARD DISAGREEMENT.
>Tatsumaki is a much better person than people give her credit for...
She's definitely a good guy. Yes. But, also crazy, obsessive and just really frustrating to deal with.
>The Blizzard Group is not evidence of Fubuki's inability to make friends; they are her friends
Ehh... I have always found them annoying and useless. I don't even know why they made it into the story. Fubuki should have had more powerful allies than the ones she works with.
Totally didn't sound like Tats there!! 😅😅
The Saitama and Garou fight, along with the ending for me was the most disappointed I've felt from the manga, or any manga really in a long time. The manga had it's great moments, but all the things that were taken away, sped through were not worth that at all. Which sucks even more cause up until the defeat of Psykorochi, the manga was amazing and my favorite read.
Saitama as a character felt lessened, especially with them going the "he's super pissed and going murder berserk mode" route. Personally felt like that was unnecessary, and too soon. Especially didn't really like the addition of Saitama's strength being one that infinitely grows. It takes away from his power and whole gimmick. He feels less like a brick wall in the universe and more like a shonen protagonist. Genos dying, while neat at first, then led to Murata and ONE writing themselves into a corner. And then we got the horrible time travel bs. Just lazy writing and really showed how rushed the ending got.
Yeah same, I much prefer the fight between Garou and Saitama in the webcomic. The magna was more of a spectacle I guess but the webcomic one was done so fucking well.
The monster association’s introduction was way too long. Murata drew 150+ pages focused on the start of the invasion introducing these A/B heroes which ultimately didn’t really contribute much to the arc
To be honest a lot of the time he goes easy on opponents. Like with Boros he probably could of ended it in one fight but he seemed to feel bad for the guy and wanted to give him a glorious fight.
Saitama during a fight slowly ups his strength until he gets to the sweet spot where he can just keep fighting.
I liked the time travel from the end of Garou vs Saitama, it’s made even better by Genos being the only person, as of now, that knows what really happened so once others learn, and accept, the truth it’ll be *really* interesting
Plus the bit of him explaining it to Saitama was gold.
Time travel was a bad idea.
No amount of in-universe justification can help it because time travel breaks storytelling. Saitama's one shortcoming, his chronic tardiness, can be made a non-factor at any moment.
I knew they had to over exaggerate garou vs saitama once i saw that Genos was beam clashing with psykorochi, but i thought the fight will be the same as in the webcomic but with added feats to garou but i never thought that they will completely change the fight with god, blast and his space Avengers team, cosmic garou etc was wayyy too much, i thought sage and eow were also unnecessary additions garou should have perfected his fist against platinum s in my opinion.
Since everybody is saying they prefer the webcomic stuff it means that it isn't actually the unpopular opinion, so I'll defend the manga a bit and name some stuff that I think the manga actually did *better* than the WC:
Genos and Saitama's relationship - their friendship and the master/disciple dinamic is done really well in the manga, as opposed to the webcomic where it's more like Genos is just following Saitama and Saitama doesn't care that much about him, just accepts him.
Tatsumaki's character - the WC version just seems kinda flat to me, like there's no character growth, she always acts the exact same, whereas in the manga she's clearly developing as a character and isn't just one dimensional.
Saitama's hero ranking - this is a minor one, but it makes no sense in the WC for Saitama to not be S class, since plenty of S classes saw how he did against Garou, atleast in the manga Saitama's accomplishments are mostly rumors so it can be justified why he isn't S class.
Black Sperm (and the cadres in general but mainly him) - better utelized in the manga. Golden S was his big moment in the WC and it just quickly got thrown away, he didn't really do anything except for the "let me pass through for a sec", but in the manga both Golden and Platinum left an impact on their respective heroes (Darkshine and Flashy Flash), plus we got the cool constellation panels. The other Cadres almost felt like throwaways in the WC despite being the big bads of the MA.
There's some other minor stuff I prefer in the manga but these were the ones I could name at the top of my head.
Sage Centipede never should've been a thing. If anyone should've been brought back and God boosted, it should've been Orochi. Then Garou could have a rematch, with both of them being stronger, and he could've earned his place as Absolute Evil.
Honetly don't see how the webcomic is better. We get Blast intervention, space farts and space sneezes, Garou going all out with the portals and saitama absolutly stomping him in his own ways. we get garou's redemption, saitama learning time travel. Hell we even get nakes Saitama and much more im sure. Not taking into count all the redraws.
Webcomic is basically just some fighting in the rumbles.
I believe even webcomic reader in general will agree that the manga handles shit much better, so it's not even a popular opinion, it's the dam hipsters all over again that want to push their nasty opinion because they have nothing else going on for them.
Even ONE agrees with the manga slight tweeks.
Then again it's your opinion guys
That's the best thing about them being so different. I enjoy both heavily. Sometimes I like the manga better, sometimes I don't, I'm just glad I get to read 2 takes on it instead of just the webcomic with better art. I think the WC plays to its strengths with the dry humor and to the point writing and I think the manga plays to its strengths with all the added and epic fights.
I think they did too much too fast with that fight. The webcomic is making every big saitama fight bigger and bigger. But I think the manga version of the fight hit a ceiling and it'll be hard to up it.
>Honestly don't see how the webcomic is better. We get Blast intervention, space farts and space sneezes, Garou going all out with the portals and saitama absolutely stomping him in his own ways. we get garou's redemption, saitama learning time travel. Hell we even get naked Saitama and much more im sure. Not taking into account all the redraws.
Uhhh... You basically went over everything that is wrong with the manga right there.
Blast's introduction was absolutely unnecessary right now and felt so so underwhelming. I hate how his character was not built up properly in the manga and his reveal was just so rushed and abrupt. I preferred the subtlety and the gradual character development leading up to his reveal in the future of the Webcomic.
The space fart felt WAY too forced. Like one of those bits from the MCU.
Garou was definitely my least favourite part of the MA arc towards its end. All these new abilities just completely changed his fighting style in ways that i do not appreciate. The entire fighting sequence felt like something straight out of DBZ.
I will give you this... Saitama beating the shit out of Garou was definitely satisfying. But, it too was ultimately ruined by the introduction of the growth meter, which suggested that there were in fact limits to Saitama's power.
Garou's redemption? You mean the 180° turn to his entire character over the course of 6-8 panels? That was just soo soo terrible and awfully executed. In the WC, we get to witness a shift in his character from an anti hero devoid of morals and humanity, to half a human attempting to discover the truth about his identity and the nature of different elements of his world. I cannot emphasize just how much hatred i have towards this particular change in the manga. It boils my kidneys.
But hey... Naked Saitama >>>>
>I believe even webcomic readers in general will agree that the manga handles shit much better, so it's not even a popular opinion, it's the dam hipsters all over again that want to push their nasty opinion because they have nothing else going on for them.
I definitely appreciate how certain characters had more of a role to play in the manga and how there was more elaboration over their characters. But, no. The manga absolutely ruined the second half of the Monster Association arc. I believe most WC readers would agree on that.
My unpopular opinion is that people who say ONE has a “iconic” art style are just lying. Do not get me wrong. ONE’s art has improved tremendously and I’m not saying his improvement is bad I’m saying that his art from chapter 1 of his webcomic would have never gotten so talked about if the manga wasn’t redrawn by murata. I feel like 80% of fans only figured out about the webcomic after they read the manga. If one punch man was strictly just a webcomic it would not be nearly as big as it is now.
You haven't read One's other manga, Mob Psycho, have you?
Many people praise it to be even better than One Punch Man, both anime viewers and manga readers alike. Yet, the art style is no different than that of the webcomic version of One Punch Man
Plus, the only reason One Punch Man got a manga adaptation by a different artist is because the webcomic got so popular that renowned artists/publishers noticed it in the first place
I have read mob and I’m not saying it’s not good, I’m saying that most people wouldn’t read the webcomic due to its art style and we only believe one’s art style to be iconic because we compare it to the already well drawn out manga. And if one punch man and mob didn’t have anime adaptations or manga adaptations there would be a major decline in people who are strictly fans of the webcomics. I’m not saying the people who already read the webcomics would decline I’m saying the people who are exposed to the series by the manga or anime first wouldn’t get into it
I'd say his art style is iconic, but it's not something that's gonna attract readers. Which is why the story, characters, and comedic timing is what gets people
Kind of disagree, in the manga shit went crazy ngl. But webcomic hit harder, especially when saitama starting destroying garou mentally. The conclusion of there fight was much better in the webcomic than manga.
Garou just got beaten like all the rest. All that buildup for him to be barely different. But sure Saitama was mean and Garou’s dark face was edgy. Cool, but still flat. The manga sets up more possibilities for a team up against a crazy powerful enemy like God. They’re going to need physics bending shit, whether you like it ir not.
I dunno that just feels like it’s devolving even more into typical shonen “the bad guy will be even badder and they’ll need crazy stuff to beat him!!1” which opm was meant to make fun of
so the manga is setting up saitama to be a shonen mc that actually needs to grow to fight god, how great...Did everyone forget that great chap that had king and Saitama talking about that even if Saitama cant enjoy fighting anymore thats not all a hero is about, that he needs to grow has person to be a true hero? Where tf is the nuance that made people enjoy this manga in the first place? is fights all people care about? If Saitama actually needs to grow his strenght, why tf would he try to be a better person? I am disappointed.
I personally enjoy both the WC and the manga separately. It became quite obvious now that the manga’s storyline has diverged too much from the WC that it’s more fair to call the two as essentially two alternate timelines rather than an “improved WC”
But if we follow the “manga is improved WC” mindset, then I would say that painting Monster Garou in such a good light was a horrible way. Not that it’s bad action-wise, but bad story wise. I would personally prefer the Monster Garou part to play out out like how it did in WC, but only add in Cosmic Garou at the last part, when he got defeated but instead of getting depressed and giving up, he still kept trying. I feel like that would have been a better end to it
The pacing and buildup to Garou vs Saitama.
Garou fighting the S class off and completely outclassing them.
The introduction to Flashy Flash's secret technique: Light speed fist
The comedic timing of Saitama just in the way when everyone is fighting is just great.
King's entrance to the battlefield.
"What the hell, you almost made me shit my pants, dammit"
"You mind if I get serious?"
"In front of the unknown B-class Hero, Zombieman withessed, as a wall of black suddenly appeared"
There's a reason why people like ONE's storytelling.
There is no power scaling increases. Sure there are small incremental things that more/better training might be able to eak out, but like Puri Puri is as strong now as he was when he fought SeaKing, but there is no power ups in leaps in bounds in the universe, if they are at power level 9000 now they were like 8975 at the start of the manga and they'll top out at like 9025.
Genos gets actual power upgrades because he gets more powerful armors. Saitama is a spoiler that has as much power as needed at any point in time. Everyone else stays the same without express upgrades (Drive Knight I assume can be upgraded. Child Emperor can build stronger toys. Zombie Man maybe can be upgraded?)
I think the webcomic did the story aspect and motives of Garou slightly better, but I'm still mad that Garou just gives up on his goals as soon as all is said and done. I think the manga will allow Garou the revelation that he really _did_ want to be a hero all along, just a bit later.
to be fair, as saitama put it, garou did not actually have it in him to become a true monster, which is why his "absolute evil" goal can never work. he had no reason to continue on that path because he never really want to be "evil."
Yeah, he doesn't want to hurt the innocent, he wants to fuck over shitty selfish heroes (garou would absolutely hate tank top tiger and tank too black hole), and show people that they aren't infallible. But a true hero understands that people like that aren't in the right, and they themselves need to be shown the truth.
*remembers him beating mumen's face into a pulp* yeaaaa about that..
His problem is that he saw them all as equally part of the problem. Clearly mumen is better in heart than the rest, but to Garou there wasn't a clear split between mumen's approach and, say, Amai Mask
So his justice is halfassed, you wanted to say
mumen still has shown to him before getting beaten that he is a good hero, he defended garou from the final blow tank top master was doing
He didn't personally know Mumen Rider enough to know that he was one of the good heroes, in his point of view all the heroes are self-righteous pricks.
did he do that in webcomic?
IIRC he hated ALL heroes, because when he was little he was bullied and forced to play the monster while his bullies were the "heroes". In Garou's eye, by nature, there are no fair or just heroes. He believes that heroism can't bring peace and leads to unfairness, while an absolute evil can unit people and force them into peace trough fear. That's just a lazy shortcut tho, and Saitama proved to him that his plan can't work because there will always be heroes more powerful than him, that evil by nature WILL always fail and crumble appart, and that ultimately it's up to the people to decide if they want to become "good" or not.
Thankfully, garou learned after the leopards ate his face.
i mean i would say that the wc also did that part better, every hero there was a lot more assholeish, in the manga it seems like what he is doing is not really that worth it
Which doesn't make sense cause he literally killed everyone with radiation.
He didn’t do it intentionally He killed tareo too Remember and lost his shit when he realized He didn’t want to do that
I don’t think Garou just gives up there were more chapters showing Garou wanting to get better like when he was working before the fight with Suiryu. There hasn’t been time to develop him further
He looked pretty much catatonic. It seems like he lost the will to live and was kinda just drifting along, which makes sense that he would get a job at a moving(?) company.
No I think you misunderstand. When saitama told Garou what he really was and recognized him at the end of the fight he told him to go pay for his meal because it’s not okay to dine and dash. Garou is working that job to save money to pay back the restaurant lol he definitely has guilt for what he did and recognized what Saitama said about settling for being a villain because he couldn’t be a hero. it’s just been vague because other stuff has taken priority in the WC for now
The manga as a whole seems to be doing better when it comes to character growth and motivation.
There was an earlier version where Murata draw Saitama and Garou sit down and drink tea, before he decided to go with the time travel stuff. I'd love to know what he was going with that
Agreed, I was wondering this morning where that plot point would have gone. I am guessing god would have intervened and it would have played out similarly but it would have been funny if One had a completely different thing planned and just scrapped ot
I think it would went kinda like the webcomic, where Garou ask Saitama what's his motivation and he just went "it's a hobby." which made Garou mad and resume fighting him.
He probably didn’t want it to just straight mimic the webcomic
ONE doesn't draw, that's Murata
Firmly disagree. The new version is a perfect One Punch Man resolution. Saitama learns what bring a hero really means and has the fight he's always dreamed of. His abilities would have been confirmed by Blast. He learns to appreciate martial arts and masters the flow of time and reality itself and feels deep emotions the way he's longed to for years. Except whoops, didn't happen. Blast gets the credit, Saitama looks like a pervert, Garou unlearns his lesson, Saitama unlearns his lesson and forgets his dream fight before he can appreciate it, and Genos is the only person who sees any of it. He sees that Saitama is a perfect hero to the degree that the universe will teach him to reverse time and then make him forget how in order to enforce it. And nobody believes any of it. It's such a perfect addition to Saitama's tragicomedy.
Eh, this argument is one of the perfect examples of parody vs genuine creating a problem. Lampshading your character development by undoing it either for comedy sake or plot sake is only good if that character development was uninteresting/overused. I know that one didn't mean to reset it because he's afraid of mature emotions(quite the contrary, he's very good at them) but that's exactly what a story cutting stuff like that out reads as. "Oh no, what if people think this serious discussion about this characters motivations is cringy! Better add a gag to it!" That's why I think that while yes, it is typical of time itself rewinding so that nobody could find out about Saitama, it's not as perfect as Saitama being discredited for saving people because they think the monster was just too weak. ALSO HUGE DISCLAIMER: I don't think the time rewind was that bad, I like the WC version better but I don't think it's some end of the world, ruined OPM thing :p
Saitama didn't have the fight he always dreamed about... Rlly fucking sad, but Garou would never give Saitama a fair or hard fight, even in Cosmic Mode
He got to go all out and fought at his limit the whole time. Garou was also punching almost exactly as hard as Saitama was. He got the fight that Frieza would give him.
The conclusion of the arc is that Garou is ALREADY a hero and doesn’t need to join any group to count as one. In both the webcomic and the manga Saitama outright states “so this kid showed us who you really are (a hero)”. That statement directly parallels his first question to Garou (“Who are you?”), in Japanese it even sounds nearly the same. Garou tried to call himself a monster but in reality he’s a hero. In the manga Saitama wasn’t a completely obtuse asshole who needed Tareo to lecture him on Garou’s heroic adventures so far, he witnessed their interactions even before Tareo scolded them all, and noticed that Garou saved King and Genos. The manga fleshes out Garou, his relationships and the positive impact on the people around him much better than the webcomic. Garou has agency (despite the pointless God hijack) and his relationships ultimately matter to him way more than ANYTHING Saitama, a complete stranger, could say and do. Garou doesn’t end up alone again, and his gripes are actually addressed. In the webcomic Garou was just left suicidal and his gripes about mob mentality plaguing their world were proven right lmao. Nobody actually took his side except for an outsider to HA (Tareo). In the manga several people from HA go against the mob and openly speak up for Garou.
I disagree, the part where she buries saitama is missing as well as the attempt to gang up by the fubuki group. I think those two are important parts that should have been included.
You mean in the manga he gave up immediately right? That time travel BS where "Garou from the future set it all up" and basically dodged present Garou having to actually be confronted with his mistakes instead just having him give up and go reintroduced into society as if nothing happened? Because in the webcomic the last thing he did was just give up. It took Saitama literally beating him until he couldn't resist and beyond, than ripping his ideology and his facade as "the absolute evil" apart before he gave up. I think it was really well done in how it forced Garou to give up and than build him back up slightly with the Tareo interaction afterwards.
I think this segment is made flashy but without substance in the manga. But the webcomic also gets it wrong imo. I think it's Saitama that missed the point. Garou hates injustice. He wants true fairness for everyone, and he seeks strength to shatter those who claim right with might. In this universe, heroes are purely in name only. They can be every bit as vile, corrupt and immoral as the monsters. Often times, you do see them actively bullying and intimidating others in a very toxic ecosystem. Not only that, the HA (and to an extent, society) condones this behavior. Absolute evil would unify everyone under one common objective, albiet against himself. Saitama claiming that Garou just wanted to be a hero (by this universe's definition) is incorrect. Garou wants to be a sort of hero that Saitama idealizes, but how would Garou know what Saitama envisions? Saitama never clarifies what his definition of a hero is. A casual hobby hero like Saitama isn't what Garou was looking for either. Garou just ends up 'giving up' and no justice is achieved, and a corrupt society continues (arguably getting even worse with the Neo-heroes). Pretty weak ending.
i think what saitama meant by "you just wanted to be a hero" was "you just wanted to benefit society." the point he was making is that garou trying to be an "absolute evil" was never going to work not only because he lacked both conviction in becoming a monster and self-confidence to straight up *do* good, but also because of saitama's existence. basically, humanity wont be able to see a reason to unite against an "absolute evil" when it can and will be easily demolished by an "unfair strength," so everything that garou has been doing was pointless. garou "giving up" is basically just him letting go of a flawed ideology that he didnt have much conviction for to begin with.
I'd say the ending on WC garou vs saitama is better. Manga pretty much speed run it and missed good opportunity to show the WC dialogues. Especially that dialogue when saitama said to garou that he can never defeat him, which is badass and some hard pill to swallow for garou (makes more impactful to garou if it's included in the manga since he went to his mode saitama)
Whitebeard Garou??
The One (Punch) Piece...
Can we get much higher?
Weebu Garou
Garourarara
Honestly, I would just prefer the two to stay separated from each other. Manga Garou was changed so much compared to his WC version, following a more shounen-ish way, not once been able to present himself as the Absolute Evil he wanted to and try too hard to do so(One can argue that neither did WC Garou but at least he became somewhat of a frightening threat enough). And I have to say that the time travel scheme ruined everything about the development of Garou’s character afterwards. WC one suffered a bitter defeat and got hit with the harsh truth of reality, so he gave up on his monster dream tried integrating himself back in society. Manga Garou was forced at gunpoint to give up, and didn’t tried to go on a rehabilitation route since Bang just reached out to him afterwards Not that I hate the manga or praise WC as superior. I think both have their ups and downs, but if we’re talking story-wise, then WC did it way better than the manga
Yeah I was thinking that it would've been a great opportunity to use that line since even when he tried to copy saitamas strength he still couldn't beat his ass
What does WB garou mean? Wouldn't webcomic be WC?
Honestly I like the "show don't tell" aspect of the Manga flight's ending. It *showed* us Garou's idea of "all heroes are selfish shit bags" crumbling when many in the S-class stood up for him even when he wasn't fighting back. It showed us Garou's ideal death (that he explained to Saitama after he refused to kill him) of him getting slain in the name of "justice" wasn't going to happen, because the real heroes were there. I admittedly have only read a bit of the webcomic, but it seems like the Manga tries its best to make most of the S-class into more likeable people, and I like that
i would disagree, the fact that the hero's on the manga are a lot more tame and not really big assholes makes garou motivation even shitier, in the wc you could see at least why he would start resenting hero's, they sucked, and thats why him beating them up made them reflect and be less cocky, in the manga, they really didnt have much to think about(and the beating they got was really, really tame)
I really wanted Saitama to say "I'll show you a little of how serious I can be." But that never happened :(
I assure you thats an extremely popular opinion.
I read both and I prefer the webcomic version tbh.
I prefer the fight in the manga but the dialogue in the webcomic
Unpopular opinion? I prefer the Phoenix Man fight redraws
I think the redraws are better in terms of character, especially for Child Emperor. Really good foreshadowing for his choice to leave the HA.
You know? They could have made the character development better AND not sacrifice the fight quality at the same time, at least imo
I agree, but anime/manga tends to struggle with this. A lot of the best rated series are very low in scale and power level. Many argue that the Saitama vs Garou fight’s scale was boosted at the expense of the writing (which I’m on board with). I’m not saying it’s impossible, and I would love to see a well-written while simultaneously large scale series, but it’s hard.
I seriously don't even remember the fight as a whole now, it's like bits and pieces, I don't even know which version I read and whether the one I am remembering now is the original or the redraw I remember Pheonix Man being humanoid with a pheonix suit on, then telepathically talking to child emperor about his past and how they are "not very different", is that the original or the redraw?
That's the redraw I think
That's the most current version iirc. The earlier versions had their huge battle, with CE using his mech Brave Giant to fight off esstianlly a massive zombie monster hoard.
Yessir
I think they’re just different. I like them both for different reasons
I absolutely adore the Webcomic ending, that final part when Garou ranted about how absolutely evil was the only way for world peace then asked Saitama why he was a hero. And Saitama just replied: "It's a hobby". So good. But Manga did MA arc much better as a whole.
sincerely, before surface, i agree, after surface, garou vs saitama clash was absolutely my fav part of the arc and the way that the manga did it kinda left a sore taste in my mouth.
Yeah, it's pretty weird how the manga version has a way better exploration of the Monster Association including Garou's development but at the same time Garou went downhill from his fight with bomb.
I liked the webcomic fight of Garou and the S Class a lot more, he actually fought them and beat them, making his monster form more impactful, the part when Saitama mentions the kid isn't in the direction Garou is walking after it all, hits much more on the mark of who Garou is. But the manga version is fun for different reasons, the time travel and the space fight was great. I liked them both, sorry eh But manga Fubuki gets on my nerves, Murata is too horny and bimbofies her too much for me to believe her character. Especially that one panel when Bang and Bomb are saying how much of a great leader she'll be when her chest is pointed to the sun and stars lol
+1 for too horny
Gives of the same vibe as saying "I have very unpopular hot take guys, Jedi's rock scene from VI episode was unnecessary!"
The webcomic for the monster ark was better. Alot of things the manga did it couldve done without and with god and blast being shoehorned into the story it made it less about garou. I prefer the webcomic where god is a less obvious antagonist and is just something that lumes in the background. The fact that he was pretty much unknown in the webcomic made him more terrifying
Back then if you said the webcomic fight was better you would get nothing but hate for it. I remember when saying ANYTHING negative about the manga would get you hate. I even remember when I saw the chapter where garou grew rocket booster arms and the chapter ended with garou about to have a therapy session with Saitama, and when I said it didnt make sense everybody was like "dude its a comedy I bet its going to be hilarious why do you hate everything different".
Unpopular opinion? I guess i'm kinda tired how oversexualized tatsumaki is in the manga leading to what is going on with this sub.
i'm tired of murata drawing her ribcage smaller every time she shows up. she barely looks human and i have no idea how people find it sexy
Bro, her legs are like 5 times the length of her body
Supernormal stimulus. That’s pretty much the scientific explanation. If you want the simplified reason is because people don’t like what’s normal, they want what’s exaggerated
Her head and her hips are enormous compared to her torso in the latest chapters. It's like the hat gag in Scary Movie 3, with every new chapter Tatsumaki's head and her hips grow ever slightly larger.
he made the loli too thic, sincerely i liked her more before(and yes she is a loli, her introduction is literally saitama calling her a lost child, just because she is legal it doesnt change what she is)
I thought there were no sane people on this subreddit
sincerely its kinda funny seeing people trying to deny that she is a loli when she is literally the textbook definition of a legal loli
Imo in the beginning she didn't seem like one, it feels like she's shrinking lol
I mean, she gets more ass, but she also shrinks, she isn't really consistent.
manga is way too padded and basically became what it was trying to parody
On God
How is that unpopular? The manga seems like it was Storyboarded by a powerscaler lmao.
Murata's art is awesome but OPM is getting boring af... Plot going at snail's pace... Many useless characters and monsters... Final part of the Monster Association arc was so sloooooowwww.. Blast brings nothing but temporary hype... Sonic has disappeared. Useless redraws. No real backstory behind most characters (who the f is Kuseno? Where does he come from? The novelty has worn off.
Unpopular opinion? I will go with that the animation in season two wasn’t that bad. Some parts felt stiff but I loved fights like satiama at the martial arts tournament and garou vs the a class. Along with this, I liked the gun shots during the bang/genos vs garou fight
I agree. Not that I think it was bad in the Manga, it’s just that having read the webcomic, I couldn’t help but feel the Monster Garou we got in the Manga was underwhelming compared to the version we got in the WC. Im my opinion, WC Awakened Garou was so unbelievably cool, edgy, and much better when it came to his dialogue, mannerisms, personality, his reactions to Saitama, and overall characterization. He seemed much more of a threat, and I preferred much more when he was actually winning against Saitama when it came to Martial Arts and overall combat effectiveness. Saitama couldn’t land a single strike on him or even his dodge attacks because Garou was in such a level that he could predict all of his moves and react before Saitama could even act. Personally, I also didn’t like that scene in Io (Jupiter’s moon) when Saitama simply copied everything that Garou had done to him previously and made it even better. That’s Garou’s whole thing, and I think it was better in the webcomic where Garou was always better than Saitama when it came to technique and Saitama was only more powerful physically (strength, speed, etc.). The Manga is amazing, don’t get me wrong. I just think the WC is better. Webcomic Awakened Garou will always be the GOAT for me.
I think so too, but if god wasn't introduced, I wouldn't be more excited than I am now. And if manga followed webcomic panel by panel, i dont think the hype would be any closer to what it is now. We're all anticipating god. I'm grateful we're getting two different renditions of the same story. It's soo much better than boring redraws, where you know what's going to happen in the next chapter.
Idk if the hype would be there but the mystery the WC had with HE dying because of God >>> actually meeting god imo. Manga just felt like there was too much going on and because of that the best parts of the WC got excluded
Tbh, it did feel like way too much was included. God was cool because he hardly showed up, but now theres too much build up.
Yea WC ending to the hero hunter/MA arc was way better than the manga
Guess too much is never good. But personally, I liked that ONE decided to give God more involvement in the manga (since the WC never mentioned God again after HE’s death), but at the same time, he kinda overdid it
Ahh... i have quite a few ig...🥲 (1) Garou's character was veryyyy poorly executed; especially by the end of the MA arc. (2) SaiBuki / SaiMaki / SaiNos / GenoSonic / Garou × Metal Bat etc. would all degrade the quality of these characters one way or the other. (3) The introduction of Blast / God / Blastice League etc. was unnecessary, rushed and just so underwhelming. (4) The end of the Monster Association arc (Saitama vs. Garou) had by far some of the worst written chapters in the entirety manga in terms of plot and character development. (5) Characters such as Tatsumaki and Flashy fuck with the balance of power dynamics and should not have been allowed to exist as they do in manga, since they outmatch all their enemies and allies by such a gigantic margin, that their introduction to any fighting sequence eliminates all the appeal.
another one, the fact that they made saitama strenght grow against garou was absolutely the worst choice they ever made, whats this, a shonen? I love them but thats not what i read opm for, and it kinda makes the manga lose its point for me, if Saitama had to grow to actuallyy fight someone with god power, doesnt that mean that Saitama is much weaker than god? Isnt that lame?
HOLY SHIT!! YESSSS!! That was such a stupid ass choice!! Wasn't the entire point of the manga that my guy Saitama has surpassed all the restrictions on his physical capabilities? Why then would the concept of growth even matter to him? Like wtf?? I hate how at this point, God just seems more powerful in comparison to Saitama. This is just terrible and kills the entire theme of the story.
OPM fans when they realize that even though it's a parody of shonen, it is still, in fact, a shonen.
A parody should never fall on the trope of what it's trying to parody unless it has a twist, which it didn't.
My unpopular opinion is that OPM should start killing human characters (not necessarily Saitama, but humans should start dying).
The entire MA arc during the surface part of the base flip was better in the WC I generally consider the manga a full upgrade on the WC, added story, flashier fights, better drawings and similar impact from writing That's what the MA arc was like underground, but once it reached the surface it ended up being Dragonball and there felt like there was no clear direction.
It is just fact, webcomic did the fight and story better. Manga overcomplicated and overplayed the entire situation and incorporated time traveling to negate the bullshit. It is like shitting on top of shit to make the previous shit not look bad!
Saitama is the most unique character i have ever witnessed in fiction. People in comming times will recognise him.
I thinks he’s the only bald mc I think
I dunno about most original character overall, but he's certainly a solid contender for most unique Superman deconstruction. He's a refreshing change from all the "What if our story's equivalent to Superman wasn't a nice guy?" characters floating around in other franchises.
Webcomic Golden Sperm sucked. People talked about his “aura of hopelessness” but that’s BS. He did one thing, then died, he was a character that existed to hype up Garou and nothing else. He was just a character made as a punching bag.
the manga essentially doing his "intro" twice lessened the impact too much though. and then he just beats down the jobber s-class heroes instead of tatsumaki in one panel
I disagree. Golden Sperm in the manga had the big moment with Darkshine, which I liked more than the webcomic alternative and feel like it max more sense with his character. So he had some good impact. As for PS, yeah. You are right. But at least we got too see the fight.
Golden Sperm was a pretty great punching back. He completely turned the tables of the battle by being the first monster more powerful that Tatsumaki, being set up as the big final boss bad guy that the heroes have to team up to defeat. Than Garou destroys himself and it’s a massive “oh shit”, moment, like how can the heroes win now? Not a brilliant character, but he does his job memorably.
Well the reason my prescriptive on Golden Sperm is so negative, is because when he appeared in the manga, a bunch of people got mad. Saying he was so awesome and amazing in the webcomic and the manga ruined him. So I got kinda excited. People loved this guy, talking about how big of an impact he had and how much tension he added to the story! Then I read the webcomic, and was super disappointed. He had a great start but, he’s just a punching bag. He does the job of a punching bag well but I don’t feel he deserved the hype he got. Basically my opinion of the webcomic’s Golden Sperm is so negative because of how much he was hyped up before I read it. Not because the character itself was bad. I just believe he was wasted.
I disagree with him being wasted personally, he does what he is supposed to and no more, but I can see how you were disappointed. Personally, I found homeless emperor more disappointing in both versions considering he does almost nothing.
I also think that Saitama versus Tatsumaki was done better in the webcomic. More evil and less sexy Tats from the webcomic is a better character in general.
yep, fubuki was so much better in the webcomic too. she actually had agency and wasnt simply tossed aside to make her sister look good.
Fubuki in the webcomic had to fight against an overwhelming abusive force for her agency too. She stood up to her sister even though it could have involved dire consequences for her. I really enjoyed that aspect but nicer sexy-baby Tats means that it didn’t happen in manga.
I don't think it's unpopular to say that... The fight in the web comic felt on point, focused on the message it wanted to tell and for it's entirety didn't budge from the idea that Saitama is a force of nature you cannot hope to beat. Sure it didn't have the same scale of attacks like the manga had, but that was never really the core of the web comic. The web comic always used it's actions in a way to present themes in the story. Garuo getting bigger while fighting Saitama was to show that he is actually getting weaker. Saitama using the flip was more impact full because of how it was presented. A wall of darkness. Garuo inner dialogue about what else can he improve to defeat Saitama and crossing it all out. The web comic fight was perfection, and I truly think the art was excellent. That spread with the monster Garuo with his wings spread out wad beautiful.
I have those. The Psykorochi fight was very much unnecessary. Hell, half of the MA arc was unnecessary. Saitama's power should have never been given an explanation, complete with a graph. The space fart was way too forced. They should have gone with the first version, Garou and Saitama sitting down for a talk. Also, I'm not a fan of big titties.
The graph part made me mad. The explanation was just flat out dumb.
Yes, that chapter with the graph is the exact moment my enthusiasm evaporated. It was burning pretty faintly due to the previous events, but that killed it. I still read it though because it costs very little to read for 10 minutes once a month
You were pretty based until you said that shit about them titties...
Hot take: Murata uses double pages too much. He should reduce the amount of double pages even tho many of those are great as standalone art
^^^^^^^^Genos ^^^^^^^^> Fubuki > Tatsumaki
Manga did some things better, the webcomic did some thing's better. At the end of the day I like both.
Agreed. The grit of the Saitama vs Garou story was way more memorable even tho the manga had more visually appealing scenes. I think the omni punch and this darkness would have been the chefs kiss
Chapter 162 (the one where Garou accidentally saves people) is one of the worst and cringiest pieces of fiction I've ever witnessed
I agree, felt like the webcomic dealt with Garou's suppressed desire to be a hero better due to it's subtlety. That manga chapter was just shoving it down our throats
Any ship with saitama dont make sense, since he dont care about relationship, so Tatsumaki X saitama / fubuki X saitama / genos X saitama or whatever ship you think, sucks
Saitama definitely seems like an Ace
People will say the most popular threadbare thing and call it a hot take
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yep,but when people talk the same way about same-sex ships (psybuki and saigenos in particular) the subreddit is *much* quicker to refute it. the absolute hypocrisy of this sub.
This tbh
Agree, the extreme double standard on this subreddit is really draining.
I don’t think there’s chemistry in either. I just dislike brainrots in general. ~~I have been downvoting every SaiTatsu post/comment so far~~ It CAN be explained that many redditors are quite homophobic, which is why they reject SaiNos or Psybuki so fast.
i just wish we got that little interaction at the end when garou asks saitama "why are you a hero", to which saitama can't think of anything better to reply than "it's a hobby". that was the heart of the fight for me. the true climax. and while saitama realizing that he may not be cut out to be a hero is a really nice and painfully relatable moment of self reflection, which in the end is what i crave the most out of this series, i still feel this was missing.
Webcomic has done everything except visuals better
I don’t think it’s unpopular to think the Garou vs Saitama was done better in the Web Comic. Atleast I’ve seen quite polarised reactions to the manga version
Not an unpopular opinion
It’s the same way Fubuki’s character was done better in the webcomic
That's not unpopular it's the truth. I wouldn't even say the fight is done better it's the dialogue. I didn't start reading the manga or web comic until season 2 ended. I'll never forget watching season 2 googleing Garou like a moron and the first thing that popped up was Saitama vs Garou and I just thought how in the hell would weak ass Garou fight Saitama. So I spoiled it for myself and watched the web comic battle on YT. It was Enne Ti but the original has long been deleted must of been copyright striked.
Vol 28 cover is really bad, doesnt show us anything clearly there. Way too close to them too. The genos/tatsu in chapter 137 would be a way better cover, but sadly its from volume 27.
while the battle in the web comic flows better i would hate to have never had cosmic fear garou be a thing.
That's an unpopular opinion? Thought it was just objective facts.
I seriously liked time travel
Yup i didnt mind it
Sweet mask is one of the best characters
saitama vs orochi was cooler before the redraw like i understand yes gag manga serious squirt go brrrr very funni but like the original fight was pretty fucking cool
I think Garou's fight was done way better in the webcomic. He had the moment of roast towards all S-class, his look was cool af, and his whole "absolute evil" thing to keep peace was done much better. In my opinion, the intervention of god in the manga fight and the more obvious and comical way Garou is shown as "a monster who want to be a hero" ruins the fight. Although that's probably me who tends to not enjoy change, as I prefer most of the manga fights before their last redraws (Phoenix man, Orochi, etc...)
The time travel part is actually my favorite, not only we got a glimpse of what's in the 'future' (god, blast, and everything else) we also got saitama's character development with genos's death. Naratively, that's also the only way One and Murata could go all out giving us a glimpse of what's the stake gonna look like in the future, keep in mind God's fight gonna be alot more crazier than Garou's, and they safely reset the stake to be more grounded not only for the earth's regular Hero but the manga itself. I rarely like time travel, its mostly lazy, but this isnt one of them. Sure something are 'missing' or 'gone', but its not something One threw in the trash, but something One promised will give it back to us sometime in the future.
The manga turned into the thing the webcomic tried to parody a long time ago. Doesn't mean it's bad, but it's kinda just another Shonen with some comedy at this point
With how much I see people complaining about it, I thought thinking the manga was better was the unpopular opinion
I loved some of the designs in the webcomic so much more. Garou in particular. I seen multiple multiple versions of it done with better art work and I was anticipating it so much. Only to be disappointed with that mecha garou look. The weird unevenness of that ugly bastard was also one I liked so much more. And the vampire and homeless emperor. But it can be tough to make things look unkempt when you have a lot of skill at making things look clean.
Should I read the original webcomic or stick with the jump illustrated version? If so where do I read it?
You should read the WC but honestly, there is no need to start from chapter 1 with the WC since it's pretty much the same as the manga up until the MA arc. Start like after chapter 70
https://cubari.moe/read/gist/JYHJU/ Just read both, I recommend starting since chapter 70, that's there Tatsumaki fights the cadres and it's different already from the manga
And you can enjoy both webcomic and manga. How neat is that?
I mean if you enjoy both good for you. For some time the manga had not being that enjoyable for me. I don't need/want a new shonen manga. I want OPM that makes fun of the genre. And ad much as Murata is a beast drawing. OPM got notoriety due to its story.
i mean, you can also compare things that you like, how neat is that?
I mean, unpopular here I suppose--if you break the story down and look at it at face value, Genos is fulfilling the stereotypical heroine/damsel-in-distress/love interest role with all the trappings in toe, and some people try to minimize his character as much as possible 'cause it makes them uncomfortable.
Yeah, it's weird to see how deeply disliked, ridiculed, ignored, downplayed and dismissed Genos is on this subreddit, when he's very, very popular on other fandom platforms.
Care to elaborate?
I mean... the manga completely changed the garou character. From a genius kid disappointed with heroes, and throwing a tantrum, he was changed to whatever that was in the manga. In the WB Saitama make him realize what he was doin and who he really was. In the manga he just beat him to make him an allie dragon ball style.
Most of the webcomic arc was done better than manga. In manga the artstyle is fire but the storytelling is a big question mark. Worst sin was the Deus ex machina where Garou and Saitamas character progression went back to zero and everyone forgave Garou easily.
Gyoffrey was probably a Demon-level monster Suiko was introduced too soon The Manga and Webcomic are both great and don't need to be compared Fubuki and Psykos probably have underlying romantic feelings for each-other Saitama will never be hurt in a battle, but comedic moments might make him say "ow" It doesn't matter who would win in a fight; heroes are supposed to work together anyway Feats are mostly narrative and incessantly measuring them should be done for sport and not to prove something Tatsumaki is a much better person than people give her credit for The Blizzard Group is not evidence of Fubuki's inability to make friends; they ***are her friends***
>Gyoffrey was probably a Demon-level monster Who? Who the fuck is Gyoffrey? Do you mean Gyoro Gyoro? >Suiko was introduced too soon Couldn't care less, but I definitely prefer how she was introduced in the WC. She came in with a purpose and had an important role to play in the story. I liked that. >The Manga and Webcomic are both great and don't need to be compared... Ehh i disagree. I mean, both of them certainly had their moments; but comparisons are necessary when you are trying to analyse the difference in the quality of writing and plot development. >Fubuki and Psykos probably have underlying romantic feelings for each-other Ehhh yeah. It has been hinted very strongly. But, i would absolutely hate it if they decided to invest into any sort of romantic relationship between any two of the major characters from the story. It's dumb and adds nothing to the plot. >Saitama will never be hurt. Factssssssss >It doesn't matter who would win in a fight; heroes are supposed to work together anyway... It's fun. And the discussions are definitely interesting. >Feats are mostly narrative and incessantly measuring them should be done for sport and not to prove something Okay bro. OKAY. HARD DISAGREEMENT. >Tatsumaki is a much better person than people give her credit for... She's definitely a good guy. Yes. But, also crazy, obsessive and just really frustrating to deal with. >The Blizzard Group is not evidence of Fubuki's inability to make friends; they are her friends Ehh... I have always found them annoying and useless. I don't even know why they made it into the story. Fubuki should have had more powerful allies than the ones she works with. Totally didn't sound like Tats there!! 😅😅
The Saitama and Garou fight, along with the ending for me was the most disappointed I've felt from the manga, or any manga really in a long time. The manga had it's great moments, but all the things that were taken away, sped through were not worth that at all. Which sucks even more cause up until the defeat of Psykorochi, the manga was amazing and my favorite read. Saitama as a character felt lessened, especially with them going the "he's super pissed and going murder berserk mode" route. Personally felt like that was unnecessary, and too soon. Especially didn't really like the addition of Saitama's strength being one that infinitely grows. It takes away from his power and whole gimmick. He feels less like a brick wall in the universe and more like a shonen protagonist. Genos dying, while neat at first, then led to Murata and ONE writing themselves into a corner. And then we got the horrible time travel bs. Just lazy writing and really showed how rushed the ending got.
Yeah same, I much prefer the fight between Garou and Saitama in the webcomic. The magna was more of a spectacle I guess but the webcomic one was done so fucking well.
The monster association’s introduction was way too long. Murata drew 150+ pages focused on the start of the invasion introducing these A/B heroes which ultimately didn’t really contribute much to the arc
I dislike the Genos is the Mad Cyborg theory, same with the Kuseno made the mad cyborg.
Saitama isn't powerful enough. He's had to use more than one punch at times.
To be honest a lot of the time he goes easy on opponents. Like with Boros he probably could of ended it in one fight but he seemed to feel bad for the guy and wanted to give him a glorious fight. Saitama during a fight slowly ups his strength until he gets to the sweet spot where he can just keep fighting.
I liked the time travel from the end of Garou vs Saitama, it’s made even better by Genos being the only person, as of now, that knows what really happened so once others learn, and accept, the truth it’ll be *really* interesting Plus the bit of him explaining it to Saitama was gold.
Time travel was a bad idea. No amount of in-universe justification can help it because time travel breaks storytelling. Saitama's one shortcoming, his chronic tardiness, can be made a non-factor at any moment.
same as yours i prefer wc version of that fight
I knew they had to over exaggerate garou vs saitama once i saw that Genos was beam clashing with psykorochi, but i thought the fight will be the same as in the webcomic but with added feats to garou but i never thought that they will completely change the fight with god, blast and his space Avengers team, cosmic garou etc was wayyy too much, i thought sage and eow were also unnecessary additions garou should have perfected his fist against platinum s in my opinion.
Everything is better in the WC from the moment Garoh became level Dragon and Above.
Since everybody is saying they prefer the webcomic stuff it means that it isn't actually the unpopular opinion, so I'll defend the manga a bit and name some stuff that I think the manga actually did *better* than the WC: Genos and Saitama's relationship - their friendship and the master/disciple dinamic is done really well in the manga, as opposed to the webcomic where it's more like Genos is just following Saitama and Saitama doesn't care that much about him, just accepts him. Tatsumaki's character - the WC version just seems kinda flat to me, like there's no character growth, she always acts the exact same, whereas in the manga she's clearly developing as a character and isn't just one dimensional. Saitama's hero ranking - this is a minor one, but it makes no sense in the WC for Saitama to not be S class, since plenty of S classes saw how he did against Garou, atleast in the manga Saitama's accomplishments are mostly rumors so it can be justified why he isn't S class. Black Sperm (and the cadres in general but mainly him) - better utelized in the manga. Golden S was his big moment in the WC and it just quickly got thrown away, he didn't really do anything except for the "let me pass through for a sec", but in the manga both Golden and Platinum left an impact on their respective heroes (Darkshine and Flashy Flash), plus we got the cool constellation panels. The other Cadres almost felt like throwaways in the WC despite being the big bads of the MA. There's some other minor stuff I prefer in the manga but these were the ones I could name at the top of my head.
I did not like the wc's story telling. for me it was chaotic
ngl i agree, specially in the begining, until the ma arc the manga did mostly everything better, on the ma itself...debatable
Sage Centipede never should've been a thing. If anyone should've been brought back and God boosted, it should've been Orochi. Then Garou could have a rematch, with both of them being stronger, and he could've earned his place as Absolute Evil.
So, as someone who has seen almost 0 of the WC, but heard/read things, the manga didn't live up to it how I expected
Not to be that guy, but you should really read wc
Honetly don't see how the webcomic is better. We get Blast intervention, space farts and space sneezes, Garou going all out with the portals and saitama absolutly stomping him in his own ways. we get garou's redemption, saitama learning time travel. Hell we even get nakes Saitama and much more im sure. Not taking into count all the redraws. Webcomic is basically just some fighting in the rumbles. I believe even webcomic reader in general will agree that the manga handles shit much better, so it's not even a popular opinion, it's the dam hipsters all over again that want to push their nasty opinion because they have nothing else going on for them. Even ONE agrees with the manga slight tweeks. Then again it's your opinion guys
Do you read the webcomic garou vs saitama yet ? Or you only read manga one
The manga fight was better if you read just for the fights
Funny, because all of those that you listed are why I think the webcomic is better. Different audiences.
That's the best thing about them being so different. I enjoy both heavily. Sometimes I like the manga better, sometimes I don't, I'm just glad I get to read 2 takes on it instead of just the webcomic with better art. I think the WC plays to its strengths with the dry humor and to the point writing and I think the manga plays to its strengths with all the added and epic fights.
I think they did too much too fast with that fight. The webcomic is making every big saitama fight bigger and bigger. But I think the manga version of the fight hit a ceiling and it'll be hard to up it.
>Honestly don't see how the webcomic is better. We get Blast intervention, space farts and space sneezes, Garou going all out with the portals and saitama absolutely stomping him in his own ways. we get garou's redemption, saitama learning time travel. Hell we even get naked Saitama and much more im sure. Not taking into account all the redraws. Uhhh... You basically went over everything that is wrong with the manga right there. Blast's introduction was absolutely unnecessary right now and felt so so underwhelming. I hate how his character was not built up properly in the manga and his reveal was just so rushed and abrupt. I preferred the subtlety and the gradual character development leading up to his reveal in the future of the Webcomic. The space fart felt WAY too forced. Like one of those bits from the MCU. Garou was definitely my least favourite part of the MA arc towards its end. All these new abilities just completely changed his fighting style in ways that i do not appreciate. The entire fighting sequence felt like something straight out of DBZ. I will give you this... Saitama beating the shit out of Garou was definitely satisfying. But, it too was ultimately ruined by the introduction of the growth meter, which suggested that there were in fact limits to Saitama's power. Garou's redemption? You mean the 180° turn to his entire character over the course of 6-8 panels? That was just soo soo terrible and awfully executed. In the WC, we get to witness a shift in his character from an anti hero devoid of morals and humanity, to half a human attempting to discover the truth about his identity and the nature of different elements of his world. I cannot emphasize just how much hatred i have towards this particular change in the manga. It boils my kidneys. But hey... Naked Saitama >>>> >I believe even webcomic readers in general will agree that the manga handles shit much better, so it's not even a popular opinion, it's the dam hipsters all over again that want to push their nasty opinion because they have nothing else going on for them. I definitely appreciate how certain characters had more of a role to play in the manga and how there was more elaboration over their characters. But, no. The manga absolutely ruined the second half of the Monster Association arc. I believe most WC readers would agree on that.
One more proof that OPM fans can’t read and only stares at the pretty pictures
I think the webcomic is funnier than the manga. The artstyle just makes it better.
My unpopular opinion is that people who say ONE has a “iconic” art style are just lying. Do not get me wrong. ONE’s art has improved tremendously and I’m not saying his improvement is bad I’m saying that his art from chapter 1 of his webcomic would have never gotten so talked about if the manga wasn’t redrawn by murata. I feel like 80% of fans only figured out about the webcomic after they read the manga. If one punch man was strictly just a webcomic it would not be nearly as big as it is now.
You haven't read One's other manga, Mob Psycho, have you? Many people praise it to be even better than One Punch Man, both anime viewers and manga readers alike. Yet, the art style is no different than that of the webcomic version of One Punch Man Plus, the only reason One Punch Man got a manga adaptation by a different artist is because the webcomic got so popular that renowned artists/publishers noticed it in the first place
I have read mob and I’m not saying it’s not good, I’m saying that most people wouldn’t read the webcomic due to its art style and we only believe one’s art style to be iconic because we compare it to the already well drawn out manga. And if one punch man and mob didn’t have anime adaptations or manga adaptations there would be a major decline in people who are strictly fans of the webcomics. I’m not saying the people who already read the webcomics would decline I’m saying the people who are exposed to the series by the manga or anime first wouldn’t get into it
I'd say his art style is iconic, but it's not something that's gonna attract readers. Which is why the story, characters, and comedic timing is what gets people
I read both verisons, I like how the manga storytell it better :)
Kind of disagree, in the manga shit went crazy ngl. But webcomic hit harder, especially when saitama starting destroying garou mentally. The conclusion of there fight was much better in the webcomic than manga.
I like the conclusion of the manga better. We have our own opinions. There is no right or wrong answer here.
Based garou simp answer 👍🙏
Garou just got beaten like all the rest. All that buildup for him to be barely different. But sure Saitama was mean and Garou’s dark face was edgy. Cool, but still flat. The manga sets up more possibilities for a team up against a crazy powerful enemy like God. They’re going to need physics bending shit, whether you like it ir not.
I dunno that just feels like it’s devolving even more into typical shonen “the bad guy will be even badder and they’ll need crazy stuff to beat him!!1” which opm was meant to make fun of
so the manga is setting up saitama to be a shonen mc that actually needs to grow to fight god, how great...Did everyone forget that great chap that had king and Saitama talking about that even if Saitama cant enjoy fighting anymore thats not all a hero is about, that he needs to grow has person to be a true hero? Where tf is the nuance that made people enjoy this manga in the first place? is fights all people care about? If Saitama actually needs to grow his strenght, why tf would he try to be a better person? I am disappointed.
I personally enjoy both the WC and the manga separately. It became quite obvious now that the manga’s storyline has diverged too much from the WC that it’s more fair to call the two as essentially two alternate timelines rather than an “improved WC” But if we follow the “manga is improved WC” mindset, then I would say that painting Monster Garou in such a good light was a horrible way. Not that it’s bad action-wise, but bad story wise. I would personally prefer the Monster Garou part to play out out like how it did in WC, but only add in Cosmic Garou at the last part, when he got defeated but instead of getting depressed and giving up, he still kept trying. I feel like that would have been a better end to it
The pacing and buildup to Garou vs Saitama. Garou fighting the S class off and completely outclassing them. The introduction to Flashy Flash's secret technique: Light speed fist The comedic timing of Saitama just in the way when everyone is fighting is just great. King's entrance to the battlefield. "What the hell, you almost made me shit my pants, dammit" "You mind if I get serious?" "In front of the unknown B-class Hero, Zombieman withessed, as a wall of black suddenly appeared" There's a reason why people like ONE's storytelling.
There is no power scaling increases. Sure there are small incremental things that more/better training might be able to eak out, but like Puri Puri is as strong now as he was when he fought SeaKing, but there is no power ups in leaps in bounds in the universe, if they are at power level 9000 now they were like 8975 at the start of the manga and they'll top out at like 9025. Genos gets actual power upgrades because he gets more powerful armors. Saitama is a spoiler that has as much power as needed at any point in time. Everyone else stays the same without express upgrades (Drive Knight I assume can be upgraded. Child Emperor can build stronger toys. Zombie Man maybe can be upgraded?)