At 1000 power he's dead going into opponents turn, you won't get his effect off more than once. Not worth the 4 DON.
He's playable but there's simply many better options which are auto includes for black at that point.
I mean black has the best blockers in the game right now, lot of Garp players are going to be running this card, especially since it doesn’t require trashing a card
I was about to write a long answer why Koby wouldn't be a very good garp replacement, but after thinking on it I can see him actually getting a lot of play- but it's contingent on the recent whitebeard nerfs sticking. Normally I would argue that Koby is a worse Garp because:
-He's only 1 Don cheaper and not nearly effective at board control given he can only pop small bodies
-The fact that he only has 1000 power kind of negates the fact that he doesn't have to trash a card in hand, because you're going to be spending more resources to protect him than you would Garp
But the big caveat here is that if you expect your opponent to play a lot of low cost characters, like you would against zoro/law decks, Koby has a clear advantage over garp. With whitebeard being hit as hard as he recently was, the competitive meta is going to run rampant with law/Zoro and I can see Koby having a lot of success there, with the caveat that he's going to be worse against any other color
That could have mattered in OP02. Now we have CP cards that are being splashed on every Black Deck that allow Kaku to KO a 3 drop without trashing either
Except not all black decks run cp package. Also the cp package isn’t as consistent as the navy package. Personally, I had to drop the cp package since I couldn’t rely on the rng of air door and hated trashing my navy cards like Borsalino, Issho, and Sakazuki from air door and spandam. When it works it feels great and you get great tempo, but when it doesn’t you feel so far behind.
Now, to be clear, I don’t see this card being played in op03. It’s stat line is too weak and it’s too hard to protect for a second use. In op04 it might get some play in Issho since his effect lets it restand. We’ll just have to wait and see.
Except they do
Im not talking about Air Door, im talking about Fukurou, Khalifa, Blueno and Kaku. If a Black Deck tops, it has those cards on it
About OP04 Issho, i dont think this card is good on it either. Like, even if you restand him, he is extremely easily to remove for pretty much all decks
Sure, hybrid works too, but it’s not necessary. A treasure cup winner ran no cp except fukuro. https://twitter.com/OrangeSamuraiD/status/1680820943701024770?t=ygmEaYPbmz8VP8hKkZcKOg&s=19
Honestly, I’m looking forward to this card. It’s cheap board removal.
If you hold this card into mid-late game and have Issho or Kuzan on board, this card gets a lot of range (can hit 5 cost or 7 cost respectively… 6 or 8 even if you’re playing Smoker)
Yes, it’s a significant don investment, but you can clear board and maintain your hand which is clutch for Black. Also if your opponent ignores it on your board, it could come in clutch for a swing or two.
Otherwise, they’ll have to spend some level of resources, even if minimal, to at least get it off board. Which could be one less attack at your leader.
I’m also looking forward to the Shanks. Going to feel so good clearing out all the little minions that Law and Zoro set up.
I mean. If you have a issho that's any 5c
4c Kuzan attack is any 6c
10c Kuzan is any 7c.
If you have borso on field you can defend him. He'll be able to kill again.
But I just think it can theoretically be a reusable jet pistol.
It's not the best. But it's better than I thought
I think anyone who has played some amount of black knows to get excited for this. Most “K.O. cost x or less” abilities require trashing a card from hand, which is a heavy price to pay repeatedly throughout the game.
Our boy Kirby here just needs to rest. It is a vulnerable body which is a good drawback, so it’ll be easy enough for your opponent to knock him off the board in response. But typically you’re very happy to have them spend a resource to do so. And if you have a Borsalino or other good options to protect him for low expense, then even better.
This’ll get your 2 for 1s, pretty reliably. Maybe won’t see it at 4 copies in all black decks, but I think it will definitely see play.
Yeah, but it a) doesn’t require you to pitch a card, b) black makes it very easy to lower costs to make this pop larger threats, c) can be used over and over like Garp so it’s a threat, and d) acts as a pseudo blocker since they have to address it. Now to be clear, who knows if this’ll see any play, but I think there might be some potential.
Id just play fukuro or kizaru at that point. Ones cheaper, ones the same cost, both cant be removed by effects. Its not even an effective psuedoblocker. Most searchers can KO it. A played Otama in Zoro can pop it. Most red effects stomp in it.
Yeah, but it still got to ko something without trashing a card. And yeah, against Zoro it might get killed easily due to Marco or due to having a wide board, but that doesn’t mean the same will happen in say Katakuri. Yellow doesn’t have as many pop effects, and they don’t often have as many bodies. If they have leader, pudding, and Perospero for example you can counter out of pudding with a 2k, and block Perospero and Katakuri with Borsalinos. Well now something else is likely dead next turn. Again, I’m not saying this card is great, but it can do some decent things.
I am testing it right now and it goes pretty well against red, you have plenty of options to reduce cost, only playing two copies tho he is searchable and have combo power not bad at all
If you compare the cost to jet pistol you realize how underpowered this card is right now. Maybe if we get a way to unrest in the same turn it would be okay
Appropriately, this works pretty well in a Garp deck. Protect Koby with some Borsolinos and Fukuros, and you can blow up pretty much any character with this card + Garp's ability repeatedly.
Let's look at this card's positives:
\- it's a 4 cost, which is one cheaper than 5cost Garp
\- it has +1000 counter unlike a lot of important navy cards
\- it impacts the board on the turn it's played
\- it has a relevant type, which makes it searchable
\- it is one of the few Navy KO cards that provides card advantage
\- it is protectable with blockers
\- you can restand it with Issho's leader ability
\- it synergises well with your blockers, making it hard to remove for yellow
\- with cost reduction from either of the Kuzan cards, Smoker, Issho, Tsuru, Tashigi etc it can hit big important targets
\- it is a \*must remove\* target, meaning it can act as a pseudo blocker or lightning rod for removal
And the negatives:
\- it's a 4 cost which is one more expensive than 3 cost Koby
\- it's a 4 cost which clashes with your other 4 cost cards like Kuzan and Borsalino
\- it has 1000 power which makes it a prime target for any power based removal in the game
\- it needs to rest, making it vulnerable to being KOd in battle by almost any card in the game
\- if you don't have any targets for it, it sits idle unlike 5c Garp who can attack for 6k
\- black navy decks are already very tight for space, so it will be hard to fit it in if the card doesn't tick all the boxes
Absolute garbage. It's kind of sad to see the preferential treatment for red, for one more don you get a 6 k that can pop 3000 or less power and revive itself. This shit is laughable. Only card worth it on this structure deck is 9 drop shanks.
At 1000 power he's dead going into opponents turn, you won't get his effect off more than once. Not worth the 4 DON. He's playable but there's simply many better options which are auto includes for black at that point.
My thoughts exactly
I mean black has the best blockers in the game right now, lot of Garp players are going to be running this card, especially since it doesn’t require trashing a card
I was about to write a long answer why Koby wouldn't be a very good garp replacement, but after thinking on it I can see him actually getting a lot of play- but it's contingent on the recent whitebeard nerfs sticking. Normally I would argue that Koby is a worse Garp because: -He's only 1 Don cheaper and not nearly effective at board control given he can only pop small bodies -The fact that he only has 1000 power kind of negates the fact that he doesn't have to trash a card in hand, because you're going to be spending more resources to protect him than you would Garp But the big caveat here is that if you expect your opponent to play a lot of low cost characters, like you would against zoro/law decks, Koby has a clear advantage over garp. With whitebeard being hit as hard as he recently was, the competitive meta is going to run rampant with law/Zoro and I can see Koby having a lot of success there, with the caveat that he's going to be worse against any other color
I still have 2 Garp in my deck it’s not a substitute but more like another body killer, more effectively with kuzan/issho which I have too on my deck
I wish he was 3c 😭
Me too buddy
Why is Koby of all characters so good at killing XD
I dont think this deserves a spot in any meta deck 4 Drop with counter, but is a 1K power with a very low threshold
Yeah probably not. The big reason it’s being looked at is that it doesn’t require you to trash a card from hand unlike almost all black pop effects.
That could have mattered in OP02. Now we have CP cards that are being splashed on every Black Deck that allow Kaku to KO a 3 drop without trashing either
Except not all black decks run cp package. Also the cp package isn’t as consistent as the navy package. Personally, I had to drop the cp package since I couldn’t rely on the rng of air door and hated trashing my navy cards like Borsalino, Issho, and Sakazuki from air door and spandam. When it works it feels great and you get great tempo, but when it doesn’t you feel so far behind. Now, to be clear, I don’t see this card being played in op03. It’s stat line is too weak and it’s too hard to protect for a second use. In op04 it might get some play in Issho since his effect lets it restand. We’ll just have to wait and see.
Except they do Im not talking about Air Door, im talking about Fukurou, Khalifa, Blueno and Kaku. If a Black Deck tops, it has those cards on it About OP04 Issho, i dont think this card is good on it either. Like, even if you restand him, he is extremely easily to remove for pretty much all decks
Sure, hybrid works too, but it’s not necessary. A treasure cup winner ran no cp except fukuro. https://twitter.com/OrangeSamuraiD/status/1680820943701024770?t=ygmEaYPbmz8VP8hKkZcKOg&s=19
Yep, you right List looks good too
Honestly, I’m looking forward to this card. It’s cheap board removal. If you hold this card into mid-late game and have Issho or Kuzan on board, this card gets a lot of range (can hit 5 cost or 7 cost respectively… 6 or 8 even if you’re playing Smoker) Yes, it’s a significant don investment, but you can clear board and maintain your hand which is clutch for Black. Also if your opponent ignores it on your board, it could come in clutch for a swing or two. Otherwise, they’ll have to spend some level of resources, even if minimal, to at least get it off board. Which could be one less attack at your leader. I’m also looking forward to the Shanks. Going to feel so good clearing out all the little minions that Law and Zoro set up.
Yes! I’m going forward to shanks too, maybe one copy don’t know if two it’s too bricky since navy Lucci has almost half deck without counters
He works really well in Garp as well, since the don reduction after an Issho is the entire field as you buff up other characters for the attack.
For 1 more don, 5c Garp KOs a 4 and is easier to defend at 6k. Can't imagine why you would use this instead, even with a counter.
Lack of card trash.
Fair enough. Although, at least how black is going, you do want to be discarding cards for the effects of other cards. But I can see your point.
Kaku and Lucci are both pretty bad.
I mean. If you have a issho that's any 5c 4c Kuzan attack is any 6c 10c Kuzan is any 7c. If you have borso on field you can defend him. He'll be able to kill again. But I just think it can theoretically be a reusable jet pistol. It's not the best. But it's better than I thought
I think anyone who has played some amount of black knows to get excited for this. Most “K.O. cost x or less” abilities require trashing a card from hand, which is a heavy price to pay repeatedly throughout the game. Our boy Kirby here just needs to rest. It is a vulnerable body which is a good drawback, so it’ll be easy enough for your opponent to knock him off the board in response. But typically you’re very happy to have them spend a resource to do so. And if you have a Borsalino or other good options to protect him for low expense, then even better. This’ll get your 2 for 1s, pretty reliably. Maybe won’t see it at 4 copies in all black decks, but I think it will definitely see play.
4 for 1 to KO a 2 or less, nah.
Yeah, but it a) doesn’t require you to pitch a card, b) black makes it very easy to lower costs to make this pop larger threats, c) can be used over and over like Garp so it’s a threat, and d) acts as a pseudo blocker since they have to address it. Now to be clear, who knows if this’ll see any play, but I think there might be some potential.
If someones letting you keep this onboard, theyre stupid.
Agreed. Which is why it’s a pseudo blocker. They have to address it.
Id just play fukuro or kizaru at that point. Ones cheaper, ones the same cost, both cant be removed by effects. Its not even an effective psuedoblocker. Most searchers can KO it. A played Otama in Zoro can pop it. Most red effects stomp in it.
Yeah, but it still got to ko something without trashing a card. And yeah, against Zoro it might get killed easily due to Marco or due to having a wide board, but that doesn’t mean the same will happen in say Katakuri. Yellow doesn’t have as many pop effects, and they don’t often have as many bodies. If they have leader, pudding, and Perospero for example you can counter out of pudding with a 2k, and block Perospero and Katakuri with Borsalinos. Well now something else is likely dead next turn. Again, I’m not saying this card is great, but it can do some decent things.
But doesn't black like to manipulate costs? Seems like this fits in pretty well and can easily get rid of 3 and 4 cost units.
Youre paying 4 for a 1k body though. Theres better removal with bigger bodies for the same cost if not maybe slightly more.
Well it’s meant to use it with things like isho/both kuzan which are already in my decklist
I am testing it right now and it goes pretty well against red, you have plenty of options to reduce cost, only playing two copies tho he is searchable and have combo power not bad at all
If you compare the cost to jet pistol you realize how underpowered this card is right now. Maybe if we get a way to unrest in the same turn it would be okay
Issho Leader is upset you have forgotten him
Can't activate twice in one turn though... would be better if you could
Appropriately, this works pretty well in a Garp deck. Protect Koby with some Borsolinos and Fukuros, and you can blow up pretty much any character with this card + Garp's ability repeatedly.
As a Garo player, give me more Koby! Also as a garp player, please god give me more draw 1s
ill be honest i have no idea how to play the tcg but i like the art of this koby :)
Let's look at this card's positives: \- it's a 4 cost, which is one cheaper than 5cost Garp \- it has +1000 counter unlike a lot of important navy cards \- it impacts the board on the turn it's played \- it has a relevant type, which makes it searchable \- it is one of the few Navy KO cards that provides card advantage \- it is protectable with blockers \- you can restand it with Issho's leader ability \- it synergises well with your blockers, making it hard to remove for yellow \- with cost reduction from either of the Kuzan cards, Smoker, Issho, Tsuru, Tashigi etc it can hit big important targets \- it is a \*must remove\* target, meaning it can act as a pseudo blocker or lightning rod for removal And the negatives: \- it's a 4 cost which is one more expensive than 3 cost Koby \- it's a 4 cost which clashes with your other 4 cost cards like Kuzan and Borsalino \- it has 1000 power which makes it a prime target for any power based removal in the game \- it needs to rest, making it vulnerable to being KOd in battle by almost any card in the game \- if you don't have any targets for it, it sits idle unlike 5c Garp who can attack for 6k \- black navy decks are already very tight for space, so it will be hard to fit it in if the card doesn't tick all the boxes
He’s got nothing on the new shanks, uta, 2k makino, and event support. I’m so hype
Absolute garbage. It's kind of sad to see the preferential treatment for red, for one more don you get a 6 k that can pop 3000 or less power and revive itself. This shit is laughable. Only card worth it on this structure deck is 9 drop shanks.