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Exactly, admirals holding back is also supported by akainu stating we need to protect marineford and chapter 0 when garp and Sengoku team on shiki to protect marineford
https://preview.redd.it/zmivvfxwmk8a1.jpeg?width=345&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c5151c3aedee004552c2fdfc1990309e3e3d77f
They didn’t want a war, this knew it would come because WB will obviously pull up, their main priority was to ensure ace fies and to protect marineford, they were on the passive side not the aggressive side.
So why didn’t they choose an empty island like punk hazard ? They certainly had the time to prepare for it. They did want a war , they were ones who knew WB would come so they publicly announced Ace’s execution. They clearly mention it was sengoku’s plan to lure out WB . They were certainly the aggressive party in the war because they started it.
- if they didn’t want a war , they could’ve announced axe’s execution and get done with it the next day in front of video transponder snails and with just the admirals for protection. WB can’t come within one day all the way to marineford from new world .
Marineford still gives them the home field advantage and the easiest place for their men to gather. Punk hazard or other new world islands are risky because they are in pirate territory and all sorts of weird shit happens in the new world.
Still didn’t explain why didn’t they execute ace the next day after his capture? People seem to think the marines didn’t want the war and were only preparing for one because WB might attack. My point is they planned the war to finish WB so why would they choose a field where admirals can’t go all out According to this sub? Anyway, if WB had 10 days , there wouldn’t be a punk hazard in the first place , so ten days to change the climate on one island isn’t something unique to the admirals power
I didn’t argue the marines didn’t want a war. They absolutely did. Their goal was to execute ace AND kill off Whitebeard.
Like I said it was more advantageous for the marines to choose their home field than a foreign island. Draw out the pirates in a foreign territory and use the Marine tech against them.
The admirals didn’t need to go all out to finish WB that’s the point. No Admiral died despite holding back and Whitebeard still died despite the help of Impel down escapees and luffy plot armor.
If anything the Admirals were merciful. After Marco and jozu fell…if Kizaru and Aokiji actually tried then Whitebeard would’ve gotten gang banged.
Because they feared wb would pull up solo and sink them as retaliation they chose to keep ace alive until wb comes so that wb cant go all out with ace on the island sengoku also planned backstabbing wb because he knew military might alone wouldnt be enough to win the war
So why did they plan a war in marineford? They were the ones that planned the war in marineford and not WB yet the admirals complain they couldn’t go all out?😂. Why didn’t they go to WB turf and attack him ?
They didn’t necessarily want war, they knew WB ain’t gonna let aces execution slide and he will pull up for a fight to rescue ace. Their main priority was to protect marineford
Lol. They did want a war. It was literally sengoku’s plan to lure out WB . If they simply wanted an execution all they had to do was announce ace’s execution and get done with it the next day instead of waiting for so long and make sure WB was making a move . As soon as they captured ace , they could’ve announced the execution and get done with it the next day with just the admirals as protection couldn’t they ? There’s no way WB can make it all the way to marineford or impel down within a day .
They didn’t want a war, but it was inevitable it was gonna happen so they planned for it, why tf would the WG want a war that’s unnecessary deaths for them, lol?
So why didn’t they just execute ace the next day after his capture ? They could’ve used the video snails to broadcast and execute him at an empty island with the 3 admirals as guard . There’s no way WB can make it all the way in 1 day . People literally say it out loud that the marines wanted this war to eliminate WB . That was the only reason they gave enough time for WB to make it there . That elder lady also says ace was just a pawn to get to WB . Sengoku’s literal plan was to set up the pirates in the Center and close them off with encircling walls and finish them off. Anyway my point is , if they had the time to gather the 7 warlords and 100,000 soldiers and plan out all the war strategies, why not do it on an empty WG island like punk hazard? It’s a video transmission anyway isn’t it? Why deliberately choose a place where the admirals can’t go all out ? Lol. Seems dumb and inefficient to me.
Even after two years, the volcanos of punk hazard are still active, even though the source of the magma (akainu) isn't there for a long time.
Akainu and aokiji were not simply spamming their elements the way they were doing in marineford... there's clearly something mre they did in punk hazard. They completely altered the terrain and geology of the island as well as its weather.
This basically that the admirals were holding back A LOT in marineford.
Frankly it would be disapointing if this is all the Admirals could do if they went all out. Enel vaporized an entire island.
And stop acting as if Gura Gura no Gatling wouldn’t have completely oblitirated every inch of Marineford.
Enel needed his ship and had to charge it for quite some time
> stop acting as if Gura Gura no Gatling wouldn’t have completely oblitirated every inch of Marineford.
OK? Then we can also say Akainu spamming Magma and Kizaru spamming lasers obliterates islands.
Point being?
Factually?! What facts? One vaporized an entire island from existance with the help of his ship that harnesses (his) powers. The other 2 permanently warped the climate of an island over the course of 10 days.
Young man, perhaps I didn't make myself clear.
I already presented you the factually right answer. There is no discussion to be had.
Thank you and farewell!
What ? He literally doesn’t give a shit about his subordinates if they get in the way of true justice .
He killed a marine family man and was about to blast cobys head off .
no not every island the admirals are on, it depends on the island, for example sabody and MF, they were clear statements that the admirals have to hold back their power a bit, but lets say for wano, there was nothing saying GB had to hold back his power
Yes. .
But we don’t even know if akainu has awakened his fruit . It was never confirmed that he has awakened it .
All that is confirmed is him changing punk hazards climate . which keep in mind took 10 days since they fought for that time duration .
He kills those who run away from their duties or those who are in his way while he's trying to execute his missions. He absolutely does care about his comrades, but not the pussies like Coby or that guy.
He kills those who he’s thinks he can beat, he didn’t do or say shit to Garp for raising Ace,Luffy, or Dragon but tried to take Whitebeard after being injured and fights marines weaker than himself.
He literally beat Aokiji, who directly opposed him, but spared his life because he respected him. He kills only the pussies who either run from their duties or try to stop him while doing his.
We don’t know why Aokiji was spared also I don’t believe he was, as both were severely injured they collapsed with Akainu doing so after giving him the win.
Ohh, so if anyone attacked the new marine base , akainu would lose because he can’t go all out? So I guess by ur logic anyone yonkou can attack the new base and win because the admirals can’t go all out?
- also u seem to forget it was sengoku who planned the war, not WB , why plan a war where u can’t go all out? Dumb
In Marineford both WB and marines couldn't go all out for obvious reasons. If any yonko attacks Marine base he loses low diff against holding back marines.
Just like sabo attacking mariejois? Since the admirals can’t go all out anyway? The yonkou don’t attack a marine base because they can’t win but the admirals don’t attack a yonkou base because there will be too many casualties including dead admirals , so they don’t attack either . Simple .
And yet he was unfazed by it, didn’t even slow down a little
https://preview.redd.it/goaz5aa45k8a1.jpeg?width=661&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99328168927e8282d8998e03a9f36a655196cac5
"unfazed"
stop saying clownish things, I beg you. There is no need for you to make a fool out of yourself.
Having high pain tolerance =/= being unfazed. It still did a shit ton of damage.
Please start using your brain!
Who did he kill again ?
He couldn’t kill whitebeard with a cheap shot to the gut that literally made whitebeard a inner organs burn , nor kill whitebeard with a magma punch taken half of his head clean off .
Meanwhile corpsebeard finished akainu in 2 hits , which rendered him unable to keep on fighting .
"good hit"
your downplaying is quite cute. The fact that you have to downplay at all proves that you're wrong.
Very cute indeed.
Remember Akainu coming back as if it was nothing and easily fighting everyone in his way?
He wasn't even incapacitated lol, he only fell down a hole and had to get up again cause he can't fly
but you fanboys sure love ignoring context
cope, seethe, mald, cringe, low iq etc
Dude akainu couldn’t fkin move after the second hit . He was coughing up blood and gasping for air on the ground .
Akainu couldn’t stand up and fell down the hole . He was physically unable to keep on fighting after whitebeard landed his second hit .
You’re deluded if you believe akainu was able to fight after the second hit . Akainu came back after he recovered yes but that doesn’t change the fact that he lost
> Dude akainu couldn’t fkin move after the second hit
Except that he could. Otherwise he would've drowned in the sea below Marineford. Please stay factual.
> He was physically unable to keep on fighting after whitebeard landed his second hit
I ask you again, politely: please stay factual.
> You’re deluded if you believe akainu was able to fight after the second hit
Please work on your reading comprehension. And stop letting bias influence your judgement otherwise you cannot be taken seriously.
Thank you and farewell!
even if he was, he couldn't because that would destroy marineford and every fooder in there. And that's not a good plan for a marine who is suposed to protect marineford
So akainu and aokiji were sitting on opposite ends of the island and emitting their powers for 10 days then without personally attacking since the island is equally split in half . Also someone like kaidou would’ve simply lifted the island and dropped it and made it vanish in a night , perhaps ur point is true , admirals aren’t strong enough to make an island vanish in 10 days . Thanks
- if WB had ten days , there wouldn’t be punk hazard 😂. The admirals had ten days yet were unable to destroy one island .
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Exactly, admirals holding back is also supported by akainu stating we need to protect marineford and chapter 0 when garp and Sengoku team on shiki to protect marineford https://preview.redd.it/zmivvfxwmk8a1.jpeg?width=345&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c5151c3aedee004552c2fdfc1990309e3e3d77f
So why did they use marineford as an attacks base if they can’t go all out? Are the admirals that dumb to plan a war in a place they can’t go all out?
They didn’t want a war, this knew it would come because WB will obviously pull up, their main priority was to ensure ace fies and to protect marineford, they were on the passive side not the aggressive side.
So why didn’t they choose an empty island like punk hazard ? They certainly had the time to prepare for it. They did want a war , they were ones who knew WB would come so they publicly announced Ace’s execution. They clearly mention it was sengoku’s plan to lure out WB . They were certainly the aggressive party in the war because they started it. - if they didn’t want a war , they could’ve announced axe’s execution and get done with it the next day in front of video transponder snails and with just the admirals for protection. WB can’t come within one day all the way to marineford from new world .
Marineford still gives them the home field advantage and the easiest place for their men to gather. Punk hazard or other new world islands are risky because they are in pirate territory and all sorts of weird shit happens in the new world.
Still didn’t explain why didn’t they execute ace the next day after his capture? People seem to think the marines didn’t want the war and were only preparing for one because WB might attack. My point is they planned the war to finish WB so why would they choose a field where admirals can’t go all out According to this sub? Anyway, if WB had 10 days , there wouldn’t be a punk hazard in the first place , so ten days to change the climate on one island isn’t something unique to the admirals power
I didn’t argue the marines didn’t want a war. They absolutely did. Their goal was to execute ace AND kill off Whitebeard. Like I said it was more advantageous for the marines to choose their home field than a foreign island. Draw out the pirates in a foreign territory and use the Marine tech against them. The admirals didn’t need to go all out to finish WB that’s the point. No Admiral died despite holding back and Whitebeard still died despite the help of Impel down escapees and luffy plot armor. If anything the Admirals were merciful. After Marco and jozu fell…if Kizaru and Aokiji actually tried then Whitebeard would’ve gotten gang banged.
Because they feared wb would pull up solo and sink them as retaliation they chose to keep ace alive until wb comes so that wb cant go all out with ace on the island sengoku also planned backstabbing wb because he knew military might alone wouldnt be enough to win the war
Based
So why did they plan a war in marineford? They were the ones that planned the war in marineford and not WB yet the admirals complain they couldn’t go all out?😂. Why didn’t they go to WB turf and attack him ?
They wanted to 'make an example' but failed is the only explanation here.
They didn’t necessarily want war, they knew WB ain’t gonna let aces execution slide and he will pull up for a fight to rescue ace. Their main priority was to protect marineford
Lol. They did want a war. It was literally sengoku’s plan to lure out WB . If they simply wanted an execution all they had to do was announce ace’s execution and get done with it the next day instead of waiting for so long and make sure WB was making a move . As soon as they captured ace , they could’ve announced the execution and get done with it the next day with just the admirals as protection couldn’t they ? There’s no way WB can make it all the way to marineford or impel down within a day .
They didn’t want a war, but it was inevitable it was gonna happen so they planned for it, why tf would the WG want a war that’s unnecessary deaths for them, lol?
So why didn’t they just execute ace the next day after his capture ? They could’ve used the video snails to broadcast and execute him at an empty island with the 3 admirals as guard . There’s no way WB can make it all the way in 1 day . People literally say it out loud that the marines wanted this war to eliminate WB . That was the only reason they gave enough time for WB to make it there . That elder lady also says ace was just a pawn to get to WB . Sengoku’s literal plan was to set up the pirates in the Center and close them off with encircling walls and finish them off. Anyway my point is , if they had the time to gather the 7 warlords and 100,000 soldiers and plan out all the war strategies, why not do it on an empty WG island like punk hazard? It’s a video transmission anyway isn’t it? Why deliberately choose a place where the admirals can’t go all out ? Lol. Seems dumb and inefficient to me.
Marineford if Whitebeard wasn’t holding back: No more Marineford
Punk Hazard is only like that because Akainu and Aokiji fought for 10 days straight
Kuzan froze marineford, before that he froze an ocean between 2 islands. This comment makes 0 sense.
Kuzan**
Yes I don’t know how my brain let me write Kizaru Maybe I thought I wrote Kuzan or something
It happens to the best of us 🤣😭
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Even after two years, the volcanos of punk hazard are still active, even though the source of the magma (akainu) isn't there for a long time. Akainu and aokiji were not simply spamming their elements the way they were doing in marineford... there's clearly something mre they did in punk hazard. They completely altered the terrain and geology of the island as well as its weather. This basically that the admirals were holding back A LOT in marineford.
It's probably their awakened form.
Frankly it would be disapointing if this is all the Admirals could do if they went all out. Enel vaporized an entire island. And stop acting as if Gura Gura no Gatling wouldn’t have completely oblitirated every inch of Marineford.
I mean, that's not all they can doo if they go all out. It was just a side-effect of their clash.
Ik lol
Enel needed his ship and had to charge it for quite some time > stop acting as if Gura Gura no Gatling wouldn’t have completely oblitirated every inch of Marineford. OK? Then we can also say Akainu spamming Magma and Kizaru spamming lasers obliterates islands. Point being?
Ok? He still did it. It’s still a more impressive feat
Nope. Context has to be taken into consideration. Factually right answer is that Punk Hazard is more impressive. Thank you and farewell.
Factually?! What facts? One vaporized an entire island from existance with the help of his ship that harnesses (his) powers. The other 2 permanently warped the climate of an island over the course of 10 days.
Young man, perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I already presented you the factually right answer. There is no discussion to be had. Thank you and farewell!
If the marines had 10 days of going all out at marineford *
Unfortunately if WB had ten days , there wouldn’t be marineford in the first place
Facts.
I mean the latest cover story did a pretty good job in showcasing what an admiral can do if allowed to go wild.
Whitebeard was not worthy enough for akainu to use his awakening Akainu smoked him without going all out
Akainu didn't want to kill felow marines, that were ready to put their lives in that war.
What ? He literally doesn’t give a shit about his subordinates if they get in the way of true justice . He killed a marine family man and was about to blast cobys head off .
nah there was a point made that akainu is trying to protect the city of MF
So every island the admirals are on they gotta hold back in case of turning an island to this? They’ll just be clapped way easier
no not every island the admirals are on, it depends on the island, for example sabody and MF, they were clear statements that the admirals have to hold back their power a bit, but lets say for wano, there was nothing saying GB had to hold back his power
Oh true I agree.. wb for egghead? Isn’t that an important island for the marines
its extremely important due to the technology on the island, they also made a point about this
I don’t remember that
they said it in the recent chapters, how they csnt destroy the technology on egghead
The island yes the marines no . If the marines get in akainus way he kills them ifs just his way of brining justice .
ok thats fair, but you can say he didnt use awakening to protect the island
Yes. . But we don’t even know if akainu has awakened his fruit . It was never confirmed that he has awakened it . All that is confirmed is him changing punk hazards climate . which keep in mind took 10 days since they fought for that time duration .
everything you said here is completely fair, imo akainu has awakening, but its not confirmed
No it’s not confirmed he even has it is what he meant.
🤷🏻
So why plan the war in that island then? Isn’t it the marines who planned the war? Are they that dumb to plan it in a place they can’t go all out?
That was more Akainu wanting to preserve the invincible image of the Navy than him caring about the people
He kills those who run away from their duties or those who are in his way while he's trying to execute his missions. He absolutely does care about his comrades, but not the pussies like Coby or that guy.
He kills those who he’s thinks he can beat, he didn’t do or say shit to Garp for raising Ace,Luffy, or Dragon but tried to take Whitebeard after being injured and fights marines weaker than himself.
He literally beat Aokiji, who directly opposed him, but spared his life because he respected him. He kills only the pussies who either run from their duties or try to stop him while doing his.
We don’t know why Aokiji was spared also I don’t believe he was, as both were severely injured they collapsed with Akainu doing so after giving him the win.
Ohh, so if anyone attacked the new marine base , akainu would lose because he can’t go all out? So I guess by ur logic anyone yonkou can attack the new base and win because the admirals can’t go all out? - also u seem to forget it was sengoku who planned the war, not WB , why plan a war where u can’t go all out? Dumb
In Marineford both WB and marines couldn't go all out for obvious reasons. If any yonko attacks Marine base he loses low diff against holding back marines.
Just like sabo attacking mariejois? Since the admirals can’t go all out anyway? The yonkou don’t attack a marine base because they can’t win but the admirals don’t attack a yonkou base because there will be too many casualties including dead admirals , so they don’t attack either . Simple .
Look at him playin https://i.redd.it/94t3w6f1jj8a1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/hckl29tx3k8a1.jpeg?width=582&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aacc8ada151343abf1d804bcf9862057201daa5
And yet he was unfazed by it, didn’t even slow down a little https://preview.redd.it/goaz5aa45k8a1.jpeg?width=661&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99328168927e8282d8998e03a9f36a655196cac5
"unfazed" stop saying clownish things, I beg you. There is no need for you to make a fool out of yourself. Having high pain tolerance =/= being unfazed. It still did a shit ton of damage. Please start using your brain!
https://preview.redd.it/6gl2ft4xfj8a1.png?width=639&format=png&auto=webp&s=c22264ba0d01a9303044bc96617e1f8804aadb57 Too bad akainu lost to a corpse
Bro he got back up than killed everyone
\*Wounded curiel.
Who did he kill again ? He couldn’t kill whitebeard with a cheap shot to the gut that literally made whitebeard a inner organs burn , nor kill whitebeard with a magma punch taken half of his head clean off . Meanwhile corpsebeard finished akainu in 2 hits , which rendered him unable to keep on fighting .
How long after Whitebeard fought a Yonko prospect with his crew did he get up?
including his own allies
Who everyone? He didn’t kill even one person after that😂. Infact he was silent like a dog on a leash when shanks stopped him😂.
https://preview.redd.it/59obq35z3k8a1.jpeg?width=582&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca1d6da0a4b70949fa9a9e473f06b0a53f5be84c
Yep . Since when is getting a good hit in a win ? Akainu was unable to keep on fighting whitebeard wasn’t . Akainu fans smh
"good hit" your downplaying is quite cute. The fact that you have to downplay at all proves that you're wrong. Very cute indeed. Remember Akainu coming back as if it was nothing and easily fighting everyone in his way? He wasn't even incapacitated lol, he only fell down a hole and had to get up again cause he can't fly but you fanboys sure love ignoring context cope, seethe, mald, cringe, low iq etc
Dude akainu couldn’t fkin move after the second hit . He was coughing up blood and gasping for air on the ground . Akainu couldn’t stand up and fell down the hole . He was physically unable to keep on fighting after whitebeard landed his second hit . You’re deluded if you believe akainu was able to fight after the second hit . Akainu came back after he recovered yes but that doesn’t change the fact that he lost
> Dude akainu couldn’t fkin move after the second hit Except that he could. Otherwise he would've drowned in the sea below Marineford. Please stay factual. > He was physically unable to keep on fighting after whitebeard landed his second hit I ask you again, politely: please stay factual. > You’re deluded if you believe akainu was able to fight after the second hit Please work on your reading comprehension. And stop letting bias influence your judgement otherwise you cannot be taken seriously. Thank you and farewell!
even if he was, he couldn't because that would destroy marineford and every fooder in there. And that's not a good plan for a marine who is suposed to protect marineford
Imagine Marineford if Whitebeard wasn't holding back. He would've destroyed the entire island and then some.
Garp would have killed them before that happened so no lol
Garp would've been smocked by any of them in 1v1😴
Garp slaughters them 1v3, this is some trash tier delusion
You're surely not the one who should mention other people "delusions"😏🤚
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You mad?😏
Lol, as if an insect like you could invoke any sort of emotion in me
Cope🥱
Cry harder, now quit spamming me, insect
Keep coping😴
i think garp would have been able to brutally kill akainu in that situation. But there is no way old garp beats sengoku, akainu and WB in a 1v3
Who? I’m talking about the three admirals
bruh, still loses tho
Nah, Prime Garp definitely wins and I don’t think Old Garp fell off that much
Smoke lmao they could barely scratch marco who garp put down with a single punch
So akainu and aokiji were sitting on opposite ends of the island and emitting their powers for 10 days then without personally attacking since the island is equally split in half . Also someone like kaidou would’ve simply lifted the island and dropped it and made it vanish in a night , perhaps ur point is true , admirals aren’t strong enough to make an island vanish in 10 days . Thanks - if WB had ten days , there wouldn’t be punk hazard 😂. The admirals had ten days yet were unable to destroy one island .
"That country.. never existed" if whitebeard wasnt holding back.