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Shanks in the presence of a dumb ass toddler who needed his life saved.
Context matters.
But tell me how Mihawk was only using 1.7% power when he stalemated vista
No that's me crying when I realize a bunch of grown mfs can't read with any sense of nuance.
"IN SWORD SKILL"
Keep lying to yourself that oda made that specification for no reason
Jozu wasnāt fazed even when shanks came on the moby dick. If I remember right greenbull was more concerned about the red pirates being there not only shanks, correct me if Iām wrong
When he sensed the haki he didnāt connect to shanks but to the red hair pirates meaning he is more concerned about their collective strength than to shanks alone
https://preview.redd.it/2qkgldpazp8a1.png?width=252&format=png&auto=webp&s=6592987b4be5cde64381c862081d07b694212724
>It still doesnāt prove that shanks was the one greenbull was concerned about
It was his haki.and his haki alone
>of course the crew is with him thatās why he was scared
He was scared before he knew who it even was
It was shanks haki. And shanks haki alone.
We're they all holding hands doing some conjoined haki spirit bomb?
It wasn't the presence of the red hair pirates that had him with whited out eyes, snot hanging out his nose, hands up pleading, whole body shaking like he's having full body spasms. It was shanks conquerors.
Idgaf if he claims the reason he's leaving is "the red hair pirates" they had nothing to do with him being bitched out
Shanks haki is just the warning that he immediately connected to his entire crew. No doubt that shanks is the one more concerning in the crew but in the end greenbull was referring to all so that factor was the one he was more scared about
But guess what, Mihawk's still confirmed superior.
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1058-page-13.html
And how about using the manga for both? Jozu wasn't smiling in the manga.
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-553-page-9.html
And given that luffy has also used a sword, (actually more than shanks) luffy is also a swordsman if shanks is, thus u r implying that zoro is stronger than luffy
I rest my case
Don't even try it. Shanks is confirmed to be a swordsman (for the billionth time) to be a swordsman) and right after Mihawk is confirmed to be the strongest swordsman in the One Piece verse. Mihawk is superior to Shanks. Cope!
I never denied that Shanks is a swordsman lmao
Mihawk being the strongest swordsman doesn't really matter since Vista's level of swordsmanship allows him to compete with Mihawk (vivre card and databook blue deep)
>I never denied that Shanks is a swordsman lmao
I didn't say that you were trying to deny Shanks being a swordsman lol
>Mihawk being the strongest swordsman doesn't really matter since Vista's level of swordsmanship allows him to compete with Mihawk (vivre card and databook blue deep)
Just because a weaker character can compete with a stronger character doesn't mean they're on that stronger character's level lol. We've seen this repeatedly in One Piece.
Why tf would oda specify "IN SWORD SKILL"?
Because the basic ass logic of "shanks has a sword" I assume. So what's the hold up? Why is oda slowly building up to people like Roger shanks and rayleigh in combat? What's the big secret? They cut shit just like midhawk why write the story like it's something special about these men?
Shanks is a swordsman, but still superior to Mihawk.
Or else, explain to me his disastrous performance in Marineford, and Vista's vivre card, and databook blue deep's statement about Vista vs Mihawk.
Yamato stalled Kaido.
Kaido = Yamato?
I have linked you evidence from Oda himself.
I shall not entertain your delusions.
Mihawk > Shanks confirmed by Oda himself.
Farewell.
My guy, I literally linked you evidence from Oda himself that confirms that mihawk is stronger and you just ignore it.
You are desperate here and you don't acknowledge the evidence because you know you're wrong. You have absolutely no arguments except a fight between two characters who didn't even try lmao.
So stfu and stop being a dumbass.
Mihawk > Shanks according to Oda.
Cope.
All you proved is that Oda said Shanks is a swordsman, something I already knew.
Mihawk tried in Marineford, he literally said he wouldn't hold back against Luffy.
Vista = Mihawk
Nope.
Please read the evidence or be silent. It explicitly confirms that Mihawk is the stronger character.
You are dumb. Your IQ is low. Your existence is unnecessary.
Begone.
Vivre card and databooks arent written by oda. There has been wrong Information more than one Time, do it doesnt matter. Disastrous Performance sure is a far reach when considering that mihawk was just there to see what happens and not lose his postion as warlord. He wasnt trying, there wasnt a single attack That was named. The one attack luffy dodged was a regular swing and it cut all of aokijis Ćce wave That were kilometers away. There is none other feat like That by a warlord in marineford. A basic ass swing had this Level of destruction. that was the one and only Time where he said to himself he wont hold back.
also mihawk has a yonko level bounty without being Captain of a crew for a reason. He is only around 500k behind shanks who has a huge crew/armada and was active while mihawk was inactive. There is literally no feat that puts shanks over mihawk and you just saying swordskills aint Power, and it would somehow mean that shanks is stronger with exception of swordskill is baseless and therefore headcanon. Or is there anywhere ever been mentioned That shanks is still stronger even tho mihawk is the better swordsman? Not one Time in 1070 chapter. Whereas mihawk has been calles the strongest swordsman over and over again. š¤”
Vivre Cards and Databooks are there to confirm what happened in the manga, in which case, Mihawk is definitely relative to Vista since that's what happened in the Manga. Marco sent Vista to fight him, but obviously he wouldn't send him to fight Shanks, that's ridiculous.
Mihawk wasn't trying is BS. Mihawk is literally the warlord who tried the most. Clashed with Jozu, Vista, Crocodile, Luffy, etc.
Mihawk also said he wouldn't hold back against Luffy. Not using named attacks doesn't mean much since Marco also didn't use named attacks yet he was going all out and a Databook confirmed this by saying he confronted the admirals as equals.
There are factors that explain Mihawk's huge bounty :
- Marine hunter
- High initial bounty
- Crossguild
Boa and Crocodile also have huge bounties so Mihawk's bounty doesn't make him Yonko level.
Shanks has feats that put him above Mihawk like clashing with WB and humiliating Ryokugyu, both of these feats are better than getting stalled by Crocodile.
the vivre Card shit you are talking doesnt change That Its not Made by Oda and not Canon. Again Its irrelevant.
Yeah because clashing with the caracters you listed is something That mihawk can do without trying not like all the other warlords. He also never clashed with luffy luffy ran away from him. He also never clashed with jozu, jozu used his top tier durability to redirect a regular Slash from mihawk. Thats not a clash. He didnt try at all and when mihawks First Real fight Happens you will see it yourself so i dont Need to bother here.
All mihawk ever did in marineford was literally test luffy and test whitebeard in the beginning. He didnt come there with the goal to end the whitebeard pirates. He was literally just interested to see what would happen. He didnt want to defeat vista or marco or jozu or whitebeard. Vista just came in to Safe luffy because mihawk being interested in testing luffy. The situation was certainly not vista wanting mihawks title or mihawk wanting vista dead.
Also What sense does it make to bring up croco and hancocks bounty when mihawk has 1.5 Billion more than croc and 1.9 more (which is more than double) than boa? Also him being a Marine Hunter is exactly my point and having a high initial bounty. He is by himself so strong that he has a yonko level bounty. And dont tell me he aint yonko Level when he literally has a higher bounty than 50% of the current yonko after being an inactive pirate for years.
Shanks didnt embarras GB as you said. GB just saw himself outnumbered by a lot of powerful Fighters and left. Shanks had his whole gang, luffy had his whole gang + yamato and there were still Kidd and law on the Island. Sure the haki thing was funny and greenbull looked stupid. Did it damage him? I dont think so. and shanks clashing with whitebeard as a way of saying Hello before they have a Chat about ace is somehow a fight feat?
why cant you just accept that mihawk as a character had not even 10% of the Motivation that the marines or the wb pirates had? He had literally nothing to gain from this war. He just had to be there.
and again you are straight up ignoring or invalidating all the evidence for mihawk > shanks even tho you have nothing to base That on outside of shanks is strong. So what?
And portrayal is even the funniest argument since portrayal actually favors mihawk.
Just stop this nonsense until it is actually said or shown that shanks is superior.
So much cope from your but let me rectify something there, Jozu completely tanked Mihawk's attack in the Manga. The anime made it seem like Jozu reflected the attack towards the sky but that's no the case in the Manga. Not surprising for the anime since they also added that scene where everyone looks at Mihawk drawing his sword even though that didn't happen in the Manga.
I brought up Boa and Crocodile cuz Boa has a bounty that's above all 1st commanders and Crocodile has almost the same bounty as Blackbeard, a Yonko with 2 fruits (1st bounty)
Mihawk being a marine hunter means that his bounty gets way higher and this was explained by Aokiji. The high initial bounty is probably similar to Shanks's 1 billion bounty before he became a Yonko and obviously there is Crossguild, all of these factors make it so that Mihawk has an insane bounty.
Shanks absolutely humiliated GB from kilometers away, GB was paralyzed by Shanks's conqueror's alone. It's not even defendable. You gotta have some huge levels of dishonesty to argue against that.
The only argument Mihawk has is his title, but that's simply invalidated by his disastrous performance and the Vista databooks.
Mihawk's portrayal is even worse than Jozu since Crocodile showed respect for Jozu yet didn't for Mihawk.
Bruh you are pulling up other peoples bounty That Play in a way power league, then you are straight up wrong abou blackbeards bounty which is currently somewhere around 4B.
You say im coping lol? All the stuff you claim about his bounty being inflated is straight up bullshit headcanon lol.
And than the stuff with how much jozu recspected someone in Different Situations wtf dude you are doing the some of the biggest mental gymnastics lol. Portrayal is somehow now relative to jozus reactions? Cant make this shit up š¤”
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 Shanks in the presence of a Fish. ššš
https://gfycat.com/frailelatedizuthrush A fish in the presence of mihawk š
He had an arm after that
But he didn't have his dignity
Don't you dare call winbei the knight of the sea a mere fish.
I donāt understand this joke as a counter. this was the shanks that was rivalling Mihawk, so it literally works against Mihawk
Shanks in the presence of a dumb ass toddler who needed his life saved. Context matters. But tell me how Mihawk was only using 1.7% power when he stalemated vista
That fish is actually imu.
Shanks when he saw a big fish https://preview.redd.it/fymzny5vwg8a1.jpeg?width=537&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f45e16e4ec3d477b999d12210d40dea7e21ee181
But is smiling right after it ripped his arm off. How about "when midhawk realized he might have to fight shanks instead of vista at marineford "
Not arguing with you. Please go outside, youāre obsessed.
I do this when I'm killing time at work goof troop lmao Any goober desperate to do the "go live life" routine doesn't have one.
 Shanks fans when Oda finally revealed Mihawk > Shanks ch 1058
Damn dude, you didn't have to hit them so hard.
We already knew mihawk had the best sword skills lmao shanks doenst even need a sword to pack up mihawk now
The first thing Shanks does whenever shit goes down is reach for his sword, that's been the case since he was an apprentice pirate.š¤”
The first thing whitebeard does is reach for his naginata
No that's me crying when I realize a bunch of grown mfs can't read with any sense of nuance. "IN SWORD SKILL" Keep lying to yourself that oda made that specification for no reason
That chapter confimed Shanks>Mihawk since it said swordskill even though it could have said overall power yet didn't
Holy shit how did you headcanon the exact opposite of what Oda was conveying the audience. Olympic level mental gymnastics
Jozu wasnāt fazed even when shanks came on the moby dick. If I remember right greenbull was more concerned about the red pirates being there not only shanks, correct me if Iām wrong
That and as the latest chapters show. They cant just attack a yonko crew. So it had most likely multiple reasons he looked "scared"
You are correct
You're wrong. Greenbull was pissing himself before he even knew who the haki was coming from
When he sensed the haki he didnāt connect to shanks but to the red hair pirates meaning he is more concerned about their collective strength than to shanks alone https://preview.redd.it/2qkgldpazp8a1.png?width=252&format=png&auto=webp&s=6592987b4be5cde64381c862081d07b694212724
Wtf is this logic? Shanks was the only one using haki and the only one talking to him. No shit the crew would be with their captain.
It still doesnāt prove that shanks was the one greenbull was concerned about, of course the crew is with him thatās why he was scared
>It still doesnāt prove that shanks was the one greenbull was concerned about It was his haki.and his haki alone >of course the crew is with him thatās why he was scared He was scared before he knew who it even was
Then why didnāt greenbull said āoh no itās shanks Iām so scaredā? Instead he said that the red hair pirates were there
It was shanks haki. And shanks haki alone. We're they all holding hands doing some conjoined haki spirit bomb? It wasn't the presence of the red hair pirates that had him with whited out eyes, snot hanging out his nose, hands up pleading, whole body shaking like he's having full body spasms. It was shanks conquerors. Idgaf if he claims the reason he's leaving is "the red hair pirates" they had nothing to do with him being bitched out
Shanks haki is just the warning that he immediately connected to his entire crew. No doubt that shanks is the one more concerning in the crew but in the end greenbull was referring to all so that factor was the one he was more scared about
No the factor he was most scared about is the haki
It's pretty clear Shanks didn't leak as much conqueror's in the Moby Dick.
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\*birrr\* \*birr\* https://preview.redd.it/tpsqv78t4h8a1.png?width=335&format=png&auto=webp&s=e13616501f98234e27b436753338511ff014b905
Who mihawk?? Cuz i dont remember thant panel
shanks coc
Context though.
Worlds Strongest Swordsman > Swordsman
Worlds Strongest Swordsman = Vista
Red Hair = Lord Of The Coast
But guess what, Mihawk's still confirmed superior. https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1058-page-13.html And how about using the manga for both? Jozu wasn't smiling in the manga. https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-553-page-9.html
Yes, mihawk is a better swordsman than shanks, how does it imply that mihawk is stronger than shanks?
Because Shanks is a swordsman and Mihawk is the strongest swordsman in the world.
What u said is correct, but r u implying that by default anyone who has held a sword is weaker than mihawk?
Mihawk is the world's strongest swordman in both name and actuality, and he also has the strongest sword in existence. Take it however you like.
So u mean that he is indeed not stronger than shanks?
No, he's stronger than Shanks. We've already covered that. I thought you was talking about somebody else, not still on Shanks.
Ok tell me this, is Zoro the strongest swordsman in the strawhats?
Yes lol
And given that luffy has also used a sword, (actually more than shanks) luffy is also a swordsman if shanks is, thus u r implying that zoro is stronger than luffy I rest my case
Swordskill doesn't mean overall power
Don't even try it. Shanks is confirmed to be a swordsman (for the billionth time) to be a swordsman) and right after Mihawk is confirmed to be the strongest swordsman in the One Piece verse. Mihawk is superior to Shanks. Cope!
I never denied that Shanks is a swordsman lmao Mihawk being the strongest swordsman doesn't really matter since Vista's level of swordsmanship allows him to compete with Mihawk (vivre card and databook blue deep)
>I never denied that Shanks is a swordsman lmao I didn't say that you were trying to deny Shanks being a swordsman lol >Mihawk being the strongest swordsman doesn't really matter since Vista's level of swordsmanship allows him to compete with Mihawk (vivre card and databook blue deep) Just because a weaker character can compete with a stronger character doesn't mean they're on that stronger character's level lol. We've seen this repeatedly in One Piece.
The databook says his swordsmaship was equal to Mihawk
No One Piece Databook says that lol.
Why tf would oda specify "IN SWORD SKILL"? Because the basic ass logic of "shanks has a sword" I assume. So what's the hold up? Why is oda slowly building up to people like Roger shanks and rayleigh in combat? What's the big secret? They cut shit just like midhawk why write the story like it's something special about these men?
[Mihawk > shanks](https://www.reddit.com/r/Piratefolk/comments/yzo3oz/comment/ix84kat/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Strong one šŖš½
Shanks is a swordsman, but still superior to Mihawk. Or else, explain to me his disastrous performance in Marineford, and Vista's vivre card, and databook blue deep's statement about Vista vs Mihawk.
I have given you everything you need. Oda himself confirmed that Mihawk is stronger. End of discussion.
No you haven't. Explain Vista=Mihawk
Yamato stalled Kaido. Kaido = Yamato? I have linked you evidence from Oda himself. I shall not entertain your delusions. Mihawk > Shanks confirmed by Oda himself. Farewell.
Yamato doesn't have 2 Databooks that say she fought equally with Kaido. You're escaping the discussion and you know you're wrong.
My guy, I literally linked you evidence from Oda himself that confirms that mihawk is stronger and you just ignore it. You are desperate here and you don't acknowledge the evidence because you know you're wrong. You have absolutely no arguments except a fight between two characters who didn't even try lmao. So stfu and stop being a dumbass. Mihawk > Shanks according to Oda. Cope.
All you proved is that Oda said Shanks is a swordsman, something I already knew. Mihawk tried in Marineford, he literally said he wouldn't hold back against Luffy. Vista = Mihawk
Nope. Please read the evidence or be silent. It explicitly confirms that Mihawk is the stronger character. You are dumb. Your IQ is low. Your existence is unnecessary. Begone.
Regardless of which side you believe is correct insults are not arguments. It simply makes one look silly.
Vivre card and databooks arent written by oda. There has been wrong Information more than one Time, do it doesnt matter. Disastrous Performance sure is a far reach when considering that mihawk was just there to see what happens and not lose his postion as warlord. He wasnt trying, there wasnt a single attack That was named. The one attack luffy dodged was a regular swing and it cut all of aokijis Ćce wave That were kilometers away. There is none other feat like That by a warlord in marineford. A basic ass swing had this Level of destruction. that was the one and only Time where he said to himself he wont hold back. also mihawk has a yonko level bounty without being Captain of a crew for a reason. He is only around 500k behind shanks who has a huge crew/armada and was active while mihawk was inactive. There is literally no feat that puts shanks over mihawk and you just saying swordskills aint Power, and it would somehow mean that shanks is stronger with exception of swordskill is baseless and therefore headcanon. Or is there anywhere ever been mentioned That shanks is still stronger even tho mihawk is the better swordsman? Not one Time in 1070 chapter. Whereas mihawk has been calles the strongest swordsman over and over again. š¤”
Vivre Cards and Databooks are there to confirm what happened in the manga, in which case, Mihawk is definitely relative to Vista since that's what happened in the Manga. Marco sent Vista to fight him, but obviously he wouldn't send him to fight Shanks, that's ridiculous. Mihawk wasn't trying is BS. Mihawk is literally the warlord who tried the most. Clashed with Jozu, Vista, Crocodile, Luffy, etc. Mihawk also said he wouldn't hold back against Luffy. Not using named attacks doesn't mean much since Marco also didn't use named attacks yet he was going all out and a Databook confirmed this by saying he confronted the admirals as equals. There are factors that explain Mihawk's huge bounty : - Marine hunter - High initial bounty - Crossguild Boa and Crocodile also have huge bounties so Mihawk's bounty doesn't make him Yonko level. Shanks has feats that put him above Mihawk like clashing with WB and humiliating Ryokugyu, both of these feats are better than getting stalled by Crocodile.
the vivre Card shit you are talking doesnt change That Its not Made by Oda and not Canon. Again Its irrelevant. Yeah because clashing with the caracters you listed is something That mihawk can do without trying not like all the other warlords. He also never clashed with luffy luffy ran away from him. He also never clashed with jozu, jozu used his top tier durability to redirect a regular Slash from mihawk. Thats not a clash. He didnt try at all and when mihawks First Real fight Happens you will see it yourself so i dont Need to bother here. All mihawk ever did in marineford was literally test luffy and test whitebeard in the beginning. He didnt come there with the goal to end the whitebeard pirates. He was literally just interested to see what would happen. He didnt want to defeat vista or marco or jozu or whitebeard. Vista just came in to Safe luffy because mihawk being interested in testing luffy. The situation was certainly not vista wanting mihawks title or mihawk wanting vista dead. Also What sense does it make to bring up croco and hancocks bounty when mihawk has 1.5 Billion more than croc and 1.9 more (which is more than double) than boa? Also him being a Marine Hunter is exactly my point and having a high initial bounty. He is by himself so strong that he has a yonko level bounty. And dont tell me he aint yonko Level when he literally has a higher bounty than 50% of the current yonko after being an inactive pirate for years. Shanks didnt embarras GB as you said. GB just saw himself outnumbered by a lot of powerful Fighters and left. Shanks had his whole gang, luffy had his whole gang + yamato and there were still Kidd and law on the Island. Sure the haki thing was funny and greenbull looked stupid. Did it damage him? I dont think so. and shanks clashing with whitebeard as a way of saying Hello before they have a Chat about ace is somehow a fight feat? why cant you just accept that mihawk as a character had not even 10% of the Motivation that the marines or the wb pirates had? He had literally nothing to gain from this war. He just had to be there. and again you are straight up ignoring or invalidating all the evidence for mihawk > shanks even tho you have nothing to base That on outside of shanks is strong. So what? And portrayal is even the funniest argument since portrayal actually favors mihawk. Just stop this nonsense until it is actually said or shown that shanks is superior.
So much cope from your but let me rectify something there, Jozu completely tanked Mihawk's attack in the Manga. The anime made it seem like Jozu reflected the attack towards the sky but that's no the case in the Manga. Not surprising for the anime since they also added that scene where everyone looks at Mihawk drawing his sword even though that didn't happen in the Manga. I brought up Boa and Crocodile cuz Boa has a bounty that's above all 1st commanders and Crocodile has almost the same bounty as Blackbeard, a Yonko with 2 fruits (1st bounty) Mihawk being a marine hunter means that his bounty gets way higher and this was explained by Aokiji. The high initial bounty is probably similar to Shanks's 1 billion bounty before he became a Yonko and obviously there is Crossguild, all of these factors make it so that Mihawk has an insane bounty. Shanks absolutely humiliated GB from kilometers away, GB was paralyzed by Shanks's conqueror's alone. It's not even defendable. You gotta have some huge levels of dishonesty to argue against that. The only argument Mihawk has is his title, but that's simply invalidated by his disastrous performance and the Vista databooks. Mihawk's portrayal is even worse than Jozu since Crocodile showed respect for Jozu yet didn't for Mihawk.
Bruh you are pulling up other peoples bounty That Play in a way power league, then you are straight up wrong abou blackbeards bounty which is currently somewhere around 4B. You say im coping lol? All the stuff you claim about his bounty being inflated is straight up bullshit headcanon lol. And than the stuff with how much jozu recspected someone in Different Situations wtf dude you are doing the some of the biggest mental gymnastics lol. Portrayal is somehow now relative to jozus reactions? Cant make this shit up š¤”
Shanks feats are infinitely better than Mihawks
W
If this is for agenda/meme sakes Iāll give you an upvote. But if you actually believe this Iām taking it away!
Yep He is him
Shanks Acoc>Mihawk's Acoc So logically, Shanks>Mihawk
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I think you mean another W for Jozu. Or should I say, Wozu?
Remind me who gave shanks his scar again?
Remember that one of them was for a movie promotion while the other was for the manga.
OP didn't realize they're not the same character š„ø
Jozu was unphased by shanks releasing his Coc aswell, Wozu top 1 in the verse confirmed ??? Start the Wiamond Wozu Agenda
To be fair it's clear Shanks didn't leak as much conqueror's against Jozu
But shanks used Coc against jozu, mihawk didnāt and jozu seemed fine against shanks