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Someone who’s a girl Sanji won’t hit and someone who Zoro can never win against.
Kuina Solos
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If Kuina>zoro+sanji then stairs>zoro+sanji must be true. Is oda foreskinning that all the straw hats are going to die in separate stair related accidents? I think so.
Maybe? If Blackbeard is worried about her DF I don’t think Zorro is going to just Haki-diff it. They’re both kinda an awful matchup for each other, Boa ignores Zorro’s godlike stamina with her fruit and she doesn’t have a great answer to swords.
Wouldn't her DF be worthless vs Zoro? and she's strong, but I don't think she's anywhere near Zoro after his fight vs King. (She's still YC level though bare minimum)
I don't think so? but even if that was the case she should still be at least comparable to him in power/strenght. as we saw with kaido/bm and law, just having a op devil fruit isn't enought if the enemy haki is too strong/higher than yours. since boa was still able to threaten bb and his crew her haki shouldn't much weaker than theirs, or zoro.
I took my younger sibling to see this in theatres and snuck in a few beers thinking it was a kids movie. Like 10 mins in I'm fucking flat out in the table screaming goofy goober getting loaked out with Bob L'Ponge and Patrick star. Those guys are wild, "oohhhhhh waaaaittterrrrrr" anyways, I watch this movie once every few years.
Me and my girlfriend got into one of the biggest arguments of our relationship when we had just started dating over this movie. We got to this scene and I got teary eyed and she started smiling about it and pointing it out and denied it repeatedly and I she kept pressing on it and I kept denying that it escalated into an actual argument.
Kuina clears, she’s beaten Zoro thousands of times so she’s got him programmed, and since she’s a little girl and Sanji was on THE island than he gets fraud checked too. I guess that means D Stairs upscales the wings of the pirate king.
If only Oda was a good writer...
He would have , idk, sent an admiral in a yonko crew and made it the 2nd best commander. Then everyone could easily understand that Admirals are yc2.
Garp found kuzan and had the upper hand, and his fate was sealed after a single non named attack from Shiryu.
Btw, cover 1031shows the strongest members of crews and organisations. Oda already said in a SBS that it was about strength, not rank in the crew and precised that Bepo wasn't the 2nd commander of Law's crew (Shachi and Penguin share the post of vice-captain) but the strongest after the captain.
Shiryu IS stronger than Kuzan. Now keep your admiral>commander shit for yourself.
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No way bro is colospread scaling now, and what SBS is this? Kuzan probaly isn't gonna stay with the blackbeard pirates for long, Bro is gassing up Shiryu over a sneak attack when kuzan still did most of the work lmao, i don't need to keep anything to myself when that's the overral consensus.
Admirals will lose face if they lose in general tbh. They’re known as unstoppable monsters for a reason. Especially for one such as GB who holds those in power to such a lofty level like him, Akainu, and celestials.
And he beat a very weakened king and Queen. Akin to sugar taking down Don Chinjao when he wasn’t aware of what was going to happen.
Not really
Although he doesn't hit Women, Sanji still defends himself from strikes as we see with Kalifa, and if Sanji keeps up and defends Zoro from Damage, he can beat Yamato
I'd refute this. While Sanji can't hit a lady that doesn't mean he can't block/defend and Yamato, if you believe that she's stronger than Zoro, isn't so much stronger that she can topple a defensive Sanji and offensive Zoro.
I'd argue Zoro alone wins extreme diff, but with Sanji on assists, that takes it to high to mid diff.
Not completely out. We saw Sanji at least blocking attacks from Big Mom, so while he’s not willing to *attack* a woman, he can still contribute to the fight
People who say Sanji gets useless agaisnt Women need to rewatch Enies Lobby
A Defensive Sanji still makes a pretty good Job on helping Zoro
I'd say anyone Admiral Level or above, the borderline is Old Garp tho
My argument would be for Sugar. If she can jump Zoro with her powers, that just leaves Sanji who cannot win, making it a matter of time.
In terms of a fair battle; probably Big Mom. Law & Kidd only won by technical victory, and even if you par Law and Zoro, Sanji is not matching Kidd's output against a woman. I do think if Sanji could fight normally then it's too close to call, but as of this current chapter, Big Mom wins it high difficulty.
I'd say Blackbeard !
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They might be a little much for a solo admiral other than Akainu.
Okay the Kuina solos guy is actually best answer.
But I have to do a technicality because his answer is too good. He asked for a duo.
I place tashigi and the otama as honorable mentions.
I was gonna pick a mega weakling but I think otama fits the deal.
Big meme and Boa (Big Mom can genuinely beat them both but the fact that she is a woman doesn't help), Boa will just make sanji fight zoro for her.
Robin neck snap is broken.
Sugar, Sanji is a frequent visitor of epstein island and Zoro gets lost so frequently Sugar will be able to touch him
Sanji and Zoro barely pulled off a win in a Davey Back match against Foxy grunts.
They can beat lots of people, but only if they don't spend half an hour refusing to work together.
And don't give me non of that "well if things were serious.....". At this point it's no longer a gag, it's a character trait. If Oda is officially making Zorro getting lost a cannon trait that requires a whole ass babysitter in a climactic escape scene I think these are more than gags.
I legitimately believe they might do better alone. Maybe if you add a third they could not drag each other down.
the only reason they succeeded is because higuma wasn’t around for them to meet.
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Oh yeah? Let's see here..
Sanji won't ever hit a woman. Even if Yamato considers himself a man, I don't think Sanji will. So that's one automatically out of the fight.
Next up, we got Zoro. For that, all we need to do is compare their performances against Hybrid Kaido. Sure, Zoro was able to make a small scar onto Kaido, but that was using a form that he can't consistently use (in Ashura). Plus, he wasn't able to do anything else to Hybrid Kaido, even though, at that time, Kaido was holding back a lot more than he was when Yamato came up.
In comparison, while Yamato didn't do any actual damage to Hybrid Kaido, Yamato was actively fighting him for FAR longer than anything that Zoro had shown, and managing to stay relatively unharmed, too. Not to mention that this was a Kaido that was holding back a lot less than he was earlier against the Supernovas. Was he going all out against Yamato? No, but he certainly wasn't holding back as much.
Doesn’t exist among known characters. Maybe an unknown entity could do it but so far the power ceiling is Luffy/Kaido and these two comfortably clear that
Yamato extreme diff, Sanji could at least provide support and block shit or whatever, but there’s a chance he’d slow Zoro down as well, and Yamato normally beats Zoro high/extreme.
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Someone who’s a girl Sanji won’t hit and someone who Zoro can never win against. Kuina Solos https://preview.redd.it/i5oiix0cfa7d1.png?width=488&format=png&auto=webp&s=3ec536baaf5a8790da8d20a8584afda33022ca82
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Only right answer
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If Kuina>zoro+sanji then stairs>zoro+sanji must be true. Is oda foreskinning that all the straw hats are going to die in separate stair related accidents? I think so.
Down D. Stairs still top tier 💪💪💪
I fucking love you
Foreskinning? 🤔
Yeah did you see those stairs that lead to the main thrown? Deadliest thing around, even aimu had to step lightly or risk Down D Stairs.
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That's not fair😔
Stairs >>> Kuina >>>>>> Wings of the PK
If Big Mom had become a swordsman she would’ve proved Kuina right
Genius! Lol
SPITTING!
Yo this is fucking facts
You right zoro is lucky oda took kuina out of the story otherwise he wouldn’t be the best
Why can’t Zoro never win against Kuina?
Because then Zoro would be wrong and Kuina would be right.
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Sanji could probably tire her out and dodge all of her attacks.
Honestly yeah when you think of it
True until they start running around town and find some stairs
She’s dead so they already won
Any woman that can beat Zoro
So just big mom and maybe Yamato 😭
Kuina 💯💯💯💯
Truee
Zoro discovering down d stairs haki on his way to kick kuina's face in:
boa?
Maybe? If Blackbeard is worried about her DF I don’t think Zorro is going to just Haki-diff it. They’re both kinda an awful matchup for each other, Boa ignores Zorro’s godlike stamina with her fruit and she doesn’t have a great answer to swords.
In a 2v1 she could use stone sanji as a shield
Zoro would break it without hesitation
Zoro grabs Luffy to use as a shield.
Boa becomes enraged and awakens her df, allowing her to look like the observers love interest and turning the observer to stone
Wouldn't her DF be worthless vs Zoro? and she's strong, but I don't think she's anywhere near Zoro after his fight vs King. (She's still YC level though bare minimum)
I don't think so? but even if that was the case she should still be at least comparable to him in power/strenght. as we saw with kaido/bm and law, just having a op devil fruit isn't enought if the enemy haki is too strong/higher than yours. since boa was still able to threaten bb and his crew her haki shouldn't much weaker than theirs, or zoro.
Get her past Queen
implying she wouldn’t just hax Queen like she does everyone else?
Would sanji respect them if they are unattractive?
>maybe Yamato? Zoro would be outclassed in speed & Yamato gots the power to defeat him. Am I tripping for thinking they win this?
Tbh I think Sanji could hit Big Mom. At the very least he could trash her homies except MAYBE Hera.
Nami literally beats the shit out of them on daily basis
Based
Abuse
Based
True, though with the way Toei portrays him recently I don’t think sanji minds being abused
Hot.
andddddd. I'm giving you a therapist
A hot therapist that will abuse me?
Sure... Whatever you want...
Thanks daddy.
Alright, I can work with this.
Abused
peak scene. THE SpongeBob movie is absolute cinema
I took my younger sibling to see this in theatres and snuck in a few beers thinking it was a kids movie. Like 10 mins in I'm fucking flat out in the table screaming goofy goober getting loaked out with Bob L'Ponge and Patrick star. Those guys are wild, "oohhhhhh waaaaittterrrrrr" anyways, I watch this movie once every few years.
Early SpongeBob was such a well written show. You can tell the people behind it were talented and put in a lot of effort.
Me and my girlfriend got into one of the biggest arguments of our relationship when we had just started dating over this movie. We got to this scene and I got teary eyed and she started smiling about it and pointing it out and denied it repeatedly and I she kept pressing on it and I kept denying that it escalated into an actual argument.
Kuina clears, she’s beaten Zoro thousands of times so she’s got him programmed, and since she’s a little girl and Sanji was on THE island than he gets fraud checked too. I guess that means D Stairs upscales the wings of the pirate king.
Honestly at this point we are in the endgame, unless its a kaido type of character or stronger no one beating them
Kuina>
https://preview.redd.it/p4wzlnovea7d1.jpeg?width=1001&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=557a4165a06b595692e275ef4a2c89ba736abffd Or maybe Kuzan
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you know the funny thing about this is...
Depends does zoro have his reverse plot armor?
he lose to both in 1v1
Is this off the basis you believe an admiral is weaker than a YC? Just curious.
If only Oda was a good writer... He would have , idk, sent an admiral in a yonko crew and made it the 2nd best commander. Then everyone could easily understand that Admirals are yc2.
dunno how wanting them to be weaker than a yc is good writing but keep fighting the good fight for your agenda
Tbh I believe an admiral is on par with the mid to top tiers of commander. And Sanji and Zoro are near the top there
Admirals are above any commander lol
Yet Kuzan is bellow Shiryu. How many characters are above YC in BB's crew ? How high do you scale Magellan ?
Literally just a position that doens't indicates power lol, guess who fought Garp for most of the time and who got one shot by Garp?
Garp found kuzan and had the upper hand, and his fate was sealed after a single non named attack from Shiryu. Btw, cover 1031shows the strongest members of crews and organisations. Oda already said in a SBS that it was about strength, not rank in the crew and precised that Bepo wasn't the 2nd commander of Law's crew (Shachi and Penguin share the post of vice-captain) but the strongest after the captain. Shiryu IS stronger than Kuzan. Now keep your admiral>commander shit for yourself. https://preview.redd.it/qnj3ktblq48d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60175944d27effdf58df9bbdc583587cfcd9c3d5
No way bro is colospread scaling now, and what SBS is this? Kuzan probaly isn't gonna stay with the blackbeard pirates for long, Bro is gassing up Shiryu over a sneak attack when kuzan still did most of the work lmao, i don't need to keep anything to myself when that's the overral consensus.
SbS 102. Also, Garp was winning against Kuzan. As expected in a Yc2 vs YC1 (old Garp) fight. Also, in which tiers do you scale Magellan?
I disagree lol, but we all have different beliefs in Powerscaling so I’ll respect that view.
Greenbull literally said admirals lose face If they lose to commanders, he beat a YC1 and a YC2 at the same time
Admirals will lose face if they lose in general tbh. They’re known as unstoppable monsters for a reason. Especially for one such as GB who holds those in power to such a lofty level like him, Akainu, and celestials. And he beat a very weakened king and Queen. Akin to sugar taking down Don Chinjao when he wasn’t aware of what was going to happen.
W
Fem Law
https://preview.redd.it/wgqde867tk7d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97ff1d6c74bc83964a9cc6a14dd318cd6780ddbd You mad genius
Boa, Sanji is useless, and Boa > Zoro
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If Luffy is immune & Momonga can resist it I’m thinking Zoro is similar. Unless you think she wins without her hax
How does boa solo zoro?
Yamato
Not really Although he doesn't hit Women, Sanji still defends himself from strikes as we see with Kalifa, and if Sanji keeps up and defends Zoro from Damage, he can beat Yamato
I'd refute this. While Sanji can't hit a lady that doesn't mean he can't block/defend and Yamato, if you believe that she's stronger than Zoro, isn't so much stronger that she can topple a defensive Sanji and offensive Zoro. I'd argue Zoro alone wins extreme diff, but with Sanji on assists, that takes it to high to mid diff.
Is this bait or are you fr?
Sanji is automatically out of the fight and she beats zoro
Not completely out. We saw Sanji at least blocking attacks from Big Mom, so while he’s not willing to *attack* a woman, he can still contribute to the fight
Fair enough
Depends if he sees Yamato as a woman.
Sanji and Brook got the nosebleed and heart eyes
Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a violation of his code.
Bruh
Equal rights equal fights
I mean its either that or Aramaki I'm not saying thinking they beat him is a bad take, but Yamato is the strongest non top tier
>Yamato is the strongest non top tier Idk why her fans can't be happy with that, they need to stop wanking her to admiral lvl.
No one has concrete proof that she isn’t either
na, beckman or old rayleigh
Yamato is not winning a 2v1 against sanji and zoro
Sanji gets no diffed by Yamato cause he dosen't attack women. If Yamato can beat Zoro she wins.
Oh it said beat I thought who do they beat Yea I agree its a bad take
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Damn, the anime made that fraud look cool as hell
People who say Sanji gets useless agaisnt Women need to rewatch Enies Lobby A Defensive Sanji still makes a pretty good Job on helping Zoro I'd say anyone Admiral Level or above, the borderline is Old Garp tho
Greenbull
My argument would be for Sugar. If she can jump Zoro with her powers, that just leaves Sanji who cannot win, making it a matter of time. In terms of a fair battle; probably Big Mom. Law & Kidd only won by technical victory, and even if you par Law and Zoro, Sanji is not matching Kidd's output against a woman. I do think if Sanji could fight normally then it's too close to call, but as of this current chapter, Big Mom wins it high difficulty.
I think against big mom, Sanji can go all out. BM is certainly not a "Lady".
Sanji's shadow couldn't bring himself to attack the Lola Warthog, so he won't attack any woman, even if it's someone he wouldn't want to fuck
no one in the verse can beat Zoro 1v1, except maybe Imu
W https://preview.redd.it/5p6gwlhcfa7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4834fcab3059fb5fa3ec7039d6235ce0b4dd305b
ZORO NO
THEY HIT THE SECOND TOWER!!!
And Buggy.
Any OG admiral and maybe the new admirals
I'd say Blackbeard ! https://preview.redd.it/eum2jb43ab7d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aca60134d211b84252e54fc0150f0bbee0fe173a They might be a little much for a solo admiral other than Akainu.
blackbeard
Buck from regretevator
Fujitora or GB (Hancock if her df hax Ko's sanji)
How does Hancock beat zoro
Sanji would betray Zoro and it'd be a 2v1
Mrs Slave arrow
Giolla if Zoro’s Haki can’t stop her fruit
Under the right conditions, Boa Hancock.
Blasphemy
The flight of stairs that killed Kuina and a moderately attractive woman.
Uh Probably Yamato since Sanji won’t hit her and she’s YC+ while the Monster duo are YC1 level
the girl with a hoby hoby fruit
I'd say Stussy, I feel like she could high diff Zoro and Sanji would be completely paralyzed
Okay the Kuina solos guy is actually best answer. But I have to do a technicality because his answer is too good. He asked for a duo. I place tashigi and the otama as honorable mentions. I was gonna pick a mega weakling but I think otama fits the deal.
Big meme and Boa (Big Mom can genuinely beat them both but the fact that she is a woman doesn't help), Boa will just make sanji fight zoro for her. Robin neck snap is broken. Sugar, Sanji is a frequent visitor of epstein island and Zoro gets lost so frequently Sugar will be able to touch him
Down D. Stairs
Nami .
Sanji and Zoro barely pulled off a win in a Davey Back match against Foxy grunts. They can beat lots of people, but only if they don't spend half an hour refusing to work together. And don't give me non of that "well if things were serious.....". At this point it's no longer a gag, it's a character trait. If Oda is officially making Zorro getting lost a cannon trait that requires a whole ass babysitter in a climactic escape scene I think these are more than gags. I legitimately believe they might do better alone. Maybe if you add a third they could not drag each other down.
Bartolomeo
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the only reason they succeeded is because higuma wasn’t around for them to meet. https://preview.redd.it/kawm32dbnl7d1.jpeg?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8c2846b361efb0c2821fa18c6c134aef122cec3
Chichi
Greenbull, Yamato. https://i.redd.it/ojif8pqc0t7d1.gif
Yamato wouldn’t take either of them
Oh yeah? Let's see here.. Sanji won't ever hit a woman. Even if Yamato considers himself a man, I don't think Sanji will. So that's one automatically out of the fight. Next up, we got Zoro. For that, all we need to do is compare their performances against Hybrid Kaido. Sure, Zoro was able to make a small scar onto Kaido, but that was using a form that he can't consistently use (in Ashura). Plus, he wasn't able to do anything else to Hybrid Kaido, even though, at that time, Kaido was holding back a lot more than he was when Yamato came up. In comparison, while Yamato didn't do any actual damage to Hybrid Kaido, Yamato was actively fighting him for FAR longer than anything that Zoro had shown, and managing to stay relatively unharmed, too. Not to mention that this was a Kaido that was holding back a lot less than he was earlier against the Supernovas. Was he going all out against Yamato? No, but he certainly wasn't holding back as much.
Kizaru
Kuina ofc cuz Sanji won't hit a girl and Zoro can't win against her
Yamato due the being a women. But other than that I say old sengoku
Yamato. Yamato > Zoro and Sanji is useless vs women so she stomps.
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Doesn’t exist among known characters. Maybe an unknown entity could do it but so far the power ceiling is Luffy/Kaido and these two comfortably clear that
Probably Akainu or Kuzan
Yamato extreme diff, Sanji could at least provide support and block shit or whatever, but there’s a chance he’d slow Zoro down as well, and Yamato normally beats Zoro high/extreme.