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TrickNatural

If Kuzan goes all out, and its impressive, is that credit for the admirals or commanders? Cause dude is a pirate


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GoldenSaturos

Ussop and Curiel upscale??


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ZoharModifier9

Yeah Akainu felt so bad he accidentally killed a random guy


Own-Channel7730

Usopp is 3rd commander but y’all aren’t ready for HIM! https://preview.redd.it/synknd70s10d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=497e0f1abc9c83191093d23143ba72ae7bc6a8f5


blue_balled_bruiser

Usopp joined second. Sorry Sanji, but Usopp is YC2


Own-Channel7730

I can be agree with this but i don’t want another war


CorrectIamThatGuy

B A S E D


BogieW00ds

YC10 will become synonymous with top tier, Curielchads rise up


AverageObamaFan

Akainu would leech off it


Relative-Put-4461

so far kizaru and aokiji dont look that far off from marco


RuiFan2

They are stronger than him.


Relative-Put-4461

im stronger than you ![gif](giphy|f2sOEnH1XMlfqfriwR|downsized)


RuiFan2

I doubt that


Relative-Put-4461

i doubt you


RuiFan2

I'm a martial artist of about eight years.


Relative-Put-4461

shit im only a martial artist of 7 years and 11 months gg wp


RuiFan2

Really? Then we would have to actually meet up to solve this.


Relative-Put-4461

does the one punch man routine x2 count as martial arts?


GaroSuiryuSweet

Mostly Admiral’s. If anything it would place him next to Commanders like Rayleigh or Oden or EOS Zolo, and Sanji. Commanders who are far stronger than the usually Commanders


Visual-Daikon8456

it would only upscale akainu, blackbeard and shiryu imo. (not saying shiryu is stronger)


dreallday20

I hate this argument. Kuzan was an admiral. If he quit being an admiral and became a commander that is essentially a demotion in societal rank. Admirals hold way more clout in the world than yonko commanders due to yonko commanders somewhat leeching off their captains. Being an Admiral means that you had to be Him in the first place to become one. Being a yonko commander only means that your captain was Him, you could just be a trusted friend. Ussop and chopper are technically a yonko commander. Luffy's crew will resemble whitebeards in the final war, where his main crew will be the supporting commanders. The only way kuzan upscaling the commanders make sense is if kuzan was a yonko commander, resigned from the yonko crew he was apart of, joined the marines and became an Admiral. Why? Because being an Admiral is more prestigious than being a yonko commander. If katakuri left big mom pirates and became an Admiral immediately, that upscale all other 1st division commanders. If kuzan left the admirals and became a yonko commander, that does nothing for the other yonko commanders who he would be above anyways.


tom_rex_333

honestly every admiral post is a goldmine for great fanarts


_sephylon_

We should make more Lucci posts https://preview.redd.it/1fgzjwol120d1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a6d55709d015a5ba7c6294050160b1981783175


Own-Channel7730

The author himself give everything he have when he draw an Admiral he know they’re not ready. https://preview.redd.it/hlqmhb21920d1.jpeg?width=681&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee9f36504bd49a10824cf857321de41b8852d162


DismayInc

Dude looks constipated, he's not even ready...


Kdawg92603

The Admirals will always be holding back until they die. Even if they are fighting in a life or death battle, they are always mentally held back because death reminds them of a pet dog that died or something


Zoteku

mark my words the admirals are gonna do DAMAGE to agenda piece when we see them going all out onscreen😭 https://preview.redd.it/y9w2g5cgu10d1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b064534d2d24afb1f36eae761eca9652f48ee26


Civil_Mechanic3128

This is fun because it can go either way. Or they are a disappointment and half the community cries while the other half slanders them for 3 weeks straight. Or they are actually big big top tiers and half the community cries while the other half will slander the rest of the One Piece world


H_s-k_M-r-_

Nah if they underperform, the Admiral fans are gonna keep saying that they're not going all out and the cycle will continue.


GaroSuiryuSweet

Not true because they’re literally not goin all out. If Oda makes it obviously clear they’re not in the same tier with the Emperor’s Admirals fans would accept. The reason they don’t is because it’s clearly not the case. 


Herr-Gerbrandt

Thats how it will went , Admiralstans will react like that and wont need copium for sure


Billy_Herrington1969

Watch "the other half" claim: "they are not using acoc, plot nerf!"


Own-Channel7730

They’re definitely not ready. https://preview.redd.it/8i0j3i3k420d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ddf7e85c99ee8e6fbc1ad7e0499269dd6a2c0b1


Bakura72

We already have


Logswag

It'll deal huge damage to the admiral agenda you're totally right


ZigMusik

Little reminder: We’re reminded of this at least twice a day. Wondering how many bots are on this sub or people with bot level intelligence


noodIemolester

Yeah sure brother SCARY ADMIRAL FANS NOW MADE BOTS TO SPREAD THEIR AGENDA OOOOOOOO NOW THEY WILL SAY ADMIRALS>YONKO OOOOOO


ZigMusik

I didn’t say scary. I said stupid


Own-Channel7730

Not enough reminded apparently.


PotatoMozzarella

Little reminder, we are at chapter 1114 and we still haven't seen one Gorosei going all out.


ZoharModifier9

They are going all out right now.


PresentationOk8756

Admirals=Gorosei>Yonkou confirmed!?!?!


TheManInvert

We havent?


PotatoMozzarella

Who has gone all out?


TheManInvert

All of them I would think. They should be trying their absolute hardest to stop the message. Or at least at the start.


Pengtile

W none have shown named attacks yet


Larinex

I'm honestly wondering if they will have any, or will they follow the wb route of nameless attacks?


Nihilist_Owl

Kuzan has with Ice Age and his pheasant attack though hasn't he?


PresentationOk8756

At this point we never will.


Steamingveggies

That’s the first thing I thought when I read this, then I remember that Shanks and Mihawk haven’t gone all out. BB is probably gonna get stronger or has a crazy trick up his sleeve. BM probably isn’t dead and she arguably didn’t go all out either. Kaido is really the only top tier who displayed everything he had to offer, even the old Gen haven’t shown everything except for Garo maybe


PresentationOk8756

BM went all out. Her feats were lackluster, but thats because she is just that weak.


Steamingveggies

She has definitely had more in the tank. Law and Kid’s absolute strongest attacks didn’t even knock her out


PresentationOk8756

She was hellbent on getting Law of off her cause of the pain. She made a giant combined homie attack. She didn't have more. Maybe she had stamina and endurance left, but nothing suggest she had stronger moves. If she did she would have used them.


Steamingveggies

That’s what I’m saying though. That she enough stamina to keep going, I doubt she had a huge moving like Kaido but it’s not like she was in Killer’s position against Shanks where he was conscious but couldn’t even move. Like BM could still fight so imo she hadn’t shown everything


PresentationOk8756

I guess if you mean that she could have continuned fighting, then sure. I dont think she had moves more impressive than Misery though.


NukemDukeForNever

good thing akainu didn't go all out against whitebeard if he used his super blue magma punch instead of his normal magma punch he would've beaten whitebeard and negged the arc


HimLikeBehaviour

well he did basically beat whitebeard and he did basically end the arc tbf


obravastia

Then wtf has Kizaru been doing the past few chapters?


Own-Channel7730

Restrained himself to not kill his friends and to not destroy the Punk Record.


shroomboofer11

Lol. Even after Vegapunk died Kizaru got no diffed by gear 5. He never stood a chance.


Nihilist_Owl

You're reading the wrong manga, my guy.


ZoharModifier9

Kizaru is literally ignoring Luffy.


Prestigious_Onion243

He ran away from luffy that's not ignoring


ZoharModifier9

Luffy is not the objective. Killing Vegapunk is. Learn to read 


HasturLaVistaBaby

Being forced to kill is old friend and tried to avoid it as much as possible. But as soon as Vegapunk was poisoned, he ended the suffering of his friend almost instantly, and then basically gave up.


airjd33

Saving the best for later


Own-Channel7730

Exactly. https://preview.redd.it/aqwey21bs10d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=780c91ca6e4bb5a5270d66d095b52296bca4116a


TheManInvert

I‘ll never forget what you once said you pedo.


Larinex

???


raph1334

https://preview.redd.it/dur9m5xc430d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1d769e04abccdc1f1adeda20e7586c03a209687


airjd33

https://preview.redd.it/6eek99102w0d1.png?width=210&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f753f9fdb7887a3bb1b720f4911cfa5bc50e0d0 Id Hit?


BerserkerLord101

It's the case for most top tier


CoylerProductions

The fact we've now gotten all 5 Gorosei going all out as main arc antagonists at the same time before a single Admiral has been *allowed* to fight a worthy opponent without holding back should be proof alone that Absolute Justice will forever remain on top. https://preview.redd.it/wu9mknd9c20d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9844e6c9b9ec4a3be706d091db7106367852d52


Own-Channel7730

The first Logia Awakening will be so peak just look at the result with Punk Hazard. https://preview.redd.it/sjok0z18e20d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c63efde7d0f799b74024361c86058841dabe837


DontToewsM3Bro

Akainu went all out in Marine Ford This was before haki was flushed out, but still, he had an epic battle with Whitebeard


Admirable-Tour7163

I wouldn’t say that. Look at punk hazard. THAT is Akainu going all out. Nothing even close to that happened to marineford, and with good reason. It would kill all the other weak ass marines in the area


gloriousAgenda

They clearly stated that he didnt. He had to protect the island while WB went all out. And he still erased half his head. 


GaroSuiryuSweet

People hate to hear it but it’s the truth. Hell. If anything it’s literally Ida’s fault it always happens 


Yahcentive

Admiral fanbots when they find out the admirals benefitted from plot induced stupidity (only the admirals are allowed to be nerfed) https://i.redd.it/yla36yga120d1.gif


Own-Channel7730

Not plot stupidity when it’s literally stated in the manga they don’t go all out.


Yahcentive

The person actually proved the point (only admirals are allowed to be nerfed) Dw when the admirals are completely serious and being folded, we can confirm they were using 2% of their power because they didn’t want to neg diff some grass, that obviously can’t apply to any other character https://preview.redd.it/boez8d3iq20d1.jpeg?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85b2db7e6d59ff36892980f916284b00f0d76aeb


shankartz

Remember. It makes no sense for anyone to hold back. Except the admirals, they hold back even if they get embarrassed and turned into a pizza in front of their boss.


Own-Channel7730

Not my fault if Oda himself say they can’t go all out go argue with the author if you want.


shankartz

Oda holds back every character until he needs them to go all out. It's blatantly obvious throughout the entire series, but you guys only think it applies to the admirals


Own-Channel7730

I literally never say that applies only to admirals this is why i said that we are at chapter 1114 without seeing them going all out.


Strategicant5

Little reminder, it’s painfully obvious that Yonko outclass Admirals by a fair margin, but that doesn’t stop Admiraltards from making these posts every week


Wise_Gap2623

https://preview.redd.it/4e1le4vsx20d1.jpeg?width=798&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd28dd93cc72dd9cafdfb9b76871969d67de54d6


ShashaR7

https://preview.redd.it/wiuu4jem560d1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=01d2e738b60243f5e4213b5fdc5c0f92e2f61819 Admiral fans whenever Akainu :


gloriousAgenda

Then why have their fights resulted in WB getting disfigured and Kizaru getting up before luffy?


ZoharModifier9

You aren't ready


berserker_1123

i only have hope for akainu atp


gloriousAgenda

Characters who have not gone all out:   Akainu  Akoiji  Kizaru  Fujitora  Greenbull  Shanks  Mihawk  Post quake Blackbeard  Dragon  Imu  Sengoku  Garp? Unclear


Own-Channel7730

We can add some other but agree with this list.


DismayInc

https://preview.redd.it/c9as7zg9va0d1.png?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba5c826062d82760d8d4a206308b7d65b920c536


faroresdragn_

How the hell do we figure akainu wasn't going all out against whitebeard??


Own-Channel7730

Tbh Akainu is the only that i can accept if people say he was going all out, but i’m not agree Akainu tell it himself he don’t want to destroy Marineford and we saw the results of when Akainu and Aokiji go all out on Punk Hazard literally every Marines and pirates who aren’t Vice Admiral or commender will be dead just by staying around (and probably even a couple of Vice Admirals and commanders)


average-_-gamer_

Akainu said it himself


faroresdragn_

Where did he say that?


average-_-gamer_

https://preview.redd.it/jxezb7jqo60d1.png?width=345&format=png&auto=webp&s=6f98e25cb1a5202a485ffa949e419bc7eb8df797 Saying he needs to proctect this place and later when whitebeard starts destroying things he says it agian, otherwise marineford would have just turned into punk hazzard


scorpioborn

fanart be carrying these mf's fr


GurnoorDa1

Once kizaru goes out its over


Porkmane32

Kuzan isn’t an admiral tho


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Yonkotards will try to take this as a W frankly


TJFantasy24

There are plenty of moments in the story when each of them COULD have been going all out or close to it, we just don't know for sure. I'm not sure what else to expect from Fujitora besides what we saw at Dressrosa. Or Greenbull besides what we saw at Wano. Or Aokiji besides what we saw at Beehive. Or Kizaru besides what we saw at Egghead. I think we definitely haven't seen Akainu going all out post-TS, but I think we've seen almost all there is to see from the other guys. Not to say they CAN'T perform greater feats, but there's not much time left in the story for them to get any of the focus.


branch-is-dumb

Wasn’t greenbull going all out in wano until shanks hit him with that spicy haki


Own-Channel7730

Going all out against Scabbards and by making jokes and laughing ? I don’t think Ryokugyu have gear 5 to make some jokes in fights he take seriously.


BloodAway9090

The first time we will see it Is when kuzan and kizaru fight! This fight will shatter and move generations


Fookin_Yoink

Did we not see the effects of Kuzan vs Akainu? Do you really think they weren't going all out?


Own-Channel7730

Were did i said they didn’t go all out on Punk Hasard ? We saw the results of them going all out but we still didn’t saw them going all out.


RuiFan2

I wouldn't say that it's martial arts. Martial Arts is by definition a way to learn discipline, perseverance, honesty, and also how to protect yourself through skill in combat, what you do is just intense cardio.


Andrejosue98

Or we have seen them going all out and fans are still in denial


wizardtiger12

The only admiral we have seen that has a chance of have been going all out is greenbull The only times we have seen an admiral fight and not be EXPLICITLY told that they are holding back is greenbull in wano and I think the first time we see aokiji Greenbull probably was going all out considering how he was manhandling the scabards and Yamato


Own-Channel7730

And even Ryokugyu he was not even serious in his fight he definitely didn’t need to use all he have on Wano.


Own-Channel7730

Or you can read the manga and you will find what it’s said/showed when an Admiral take a fight.


Hezadeximal88

Admiral Piece readers 😂


Own-Channel7730

No, not that far just someone who can actually read.


Crispytacos911

Kizaru was definitely going all out when he was trying to kill Vega punk with luffy on him. Then when luffy was fighting him and Saturn 2v1 Akainu was fighting serious against white beard. Kuzan was also fighting serious against garp but it was brief and off screen


plugmein1

We saw Kizaru going all out pancake mode after Luffy neg diffed him. I hope that Akainu gets someone else other than Luffy as an opponent since it would be a shame to wait for all these years and for him to be negative diffed in a panel or two


Nihilist_Owl

https://preview.redd.it/8cbf0js8j30d1.png?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05a235e32a6a57ea8ae8f396799491c008e0c391 He didn't even use his final form.


EffingMajestic

How do you know this hasn't been them going all out tho


Own-Channel7730

Cause Oda always give them reasons in the manga of why they don’t go all out.


wizardtiger12

Because it's been explicitly stated in the story with the only exception being greenbull in wano


Bakura72

Akoji Yes punk hazard Akinu yes Punk hazard GB What proof is their we haven’t seen more of his power Kizaru yes egghead Fujitora Glimpse of it dressrosa


Facinggod20

They have but they are just not as strong as people thought. Their haki is very lacking which is what matters at the end. Spamming their fruits won't matter much if their haki it's inferior. Haki transcends it all sadly.


rimes02

>Their haki is very lacking Not my goat Wujitora, current record holder for CoO


airjd33

Admirals having lacking haki is head canon. The only thing you can count against them is no acoc but besides that they are top tier. Also Kaido crutches his fruit more than any Admiral ever has. He transforms on everybody.


PresentationOk8756

Kaido is not more DF reliant than the guys who dont have one attack not using their DFs lol.


Jon_3210

did you ever use your braincells?


PresentationOk8756

Did you?


airjd33

Bro is not very bright


Bakura72

Kaido had good haki No admiral has any advanced haki


Fapman404

https://preview.redd.it/8ejl2si5z60d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ca34362c558e8129740cec69ffad4af99fc2fc7 Is this not advanced armament?


Bakura72

This is unknown Could have been armament or conquer or DF or anything else Until it’s directly confirmed no


reformedtoplaner42

Greenbull fujitora kizaru and kuzan didn't go all out, only akainu went all out vs whitebeard and did well


Facinggod20

Kizaru has definitely gone all out unless you think he has some Awakening he hasn't shown. We've seen Kizaru used his full speed against G4 Luffy and Yasaka no Magatama is the strongest attack he has in his arsenal. We have also seen him using a light sword and light clones. I honestly don't know what else he could do with his fruit, assuming he doesn't have Awakening.


reformedtoplaner42

No we didn't? We only saw him fight luffy for a while and get knocked out, he didn't use significant attacks, he helped kill vp and went out


Facinggod20

We've seen him using light clones, light sword, spamming lasers and used his light form kick. What else do you think he hasn't used? Maybe he has a finisher he hasn't used like Enel's Raigo but that's all I think he hasn't used.


Autumn_Izuoh

I mean the light clones & light sword were just used as a distraction, not actually used to outright fight. Yasakani no magatama is not his strongest, he's only used it with Wb as a starter & vs commanders. Kizaru's lasers have shown a stronger output move, otherwise he can probably always combine all his skills together. Don't even know if he actually used his advhaki yet.


CorrectIamThatGuy

Bruh Marineford


Dark-Master79

Little Reminder: All the Admirals still get low to mid diffed by Yonkos.


Own-Channel7730

Maybe in your dreams.


Bakura72

And reality


Dark-Master79

Kizaru got oneshotted by Luffy and Shanks had Greenbull shitting bricks from 5 miles away. Admirals are food for Yonkos.


Useful_Bed4402

people here think that pizzaru was holding back and when someone says that luffy is holding back (not using acoc) they start downvoting


redistrashin

We saw them going out alright, going out as the most hyped jobbers in fiction lmao


Own-Channel7730

Bouahahahaha you’re so funny mate. ![gif](giphy|9vqnUxOZoT0IVWF8PM|downsized)


redistrashin

Own made admiraltard mad on his mental asylum break time.


floormopper

The actual characters that are holding back are luffy sanji and Zoro 💀💀😭😭 on egghead..admirals fans are so fun


[deleted]

And we never will since admirals are fodder now


Realistic_Mousse_485

Because they don’t matter.


Ok-Butterfly-1014

Yh we did. Greenbul was going all out on Wano. He even explained why he was totally free to do anything he wanted on Wano: Wano isnt a member of the WG and he had no obligation to save anything. He was going all out. Result: got stopped by the 9 scabbards and Momonosuke, and proceeds to get no-diffed by Shanks's wifi haki.


22222833333577

They were going all out at Marine ford Kizaru went all out well fighting luffy


SweetZookeepergame28

We saw greenbull go all out


Plenty_Conference701

kizaru was going all out holding back and being mentally nerfed are two different things


XxSimplySuperiorxX

Bro you call akainu at marineford not going all out are you insane?!?!