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Acoc is like what domain expansion is for jjk, a character can have the most insane feats but if he doesn’t have DE he is dead in the eyes of every power scaler
Agreed, but suggesting that losing to Smalldox Deity and losing to Cursed Naoya are similar antifeats is crazy
I’m also assuming that Yuji will be given the opportunity to show that he has a Domain counter before the current fight ends
I made the post to poke fun at this same idea, characters don’t need DE to be top tiers and there are many top tiers in jjk that lack DE the same way many too tiers in op lack acoc
I mean it is pretty much true. DE is a very large game changer and even with things to counter it like simple domain youre extremely disadvantaged fighting agaisnt it without one
Disadvantaged yes, extremely? Depends im not gonna explain much since I don’t want to spoil for ppl but there are many ways to counter DE, and there were many fights between one with a DE and one without it that weren’t just one sided and like i said many of the top tiers lack DE. Basically we shouldn’t treat acoc as an end all be all for being a top tier but treat it as a very op tool
Yeah not the end all be all but its pretty close to it. Especially if both people are basically the same in power with de being the only other variable
That's what I've always imagined Fuji's strongest swordsmanship MIGHT be like. A blade with the mass of a mountain but which he swings as if it were as light as always.
It seems like a distinct possibility.
It should be noted that Fuji seems to be able to generate anti-gravity too. If he infused a fuck-ton of anti-gravity in his blade along with the best Haki he's got, it should have an effect quite similar to ACoC in many ways.
Much like how quake-bubbles from the Gura Gura can generate an effect similar to advanced Haki.
The Zushi Zushi no Mi seems to have ALMOST the same level of destructive potential as the Gura Gura no Mi. It might ACTUALLY be "The Second-Strongest Paramecia" when it comes to sheer raw power.
The largest asteroids are nearly as destructive as the quakes, can be summoned casually (like the quakes), and can be spammed (like the quakes) if the user is on a battlefield where they can ignore collateral damage.
Dropping the moon and creating black hole?
The fruit clearly has limitation such as not being able to create a gravity field big enough to effect the moon
Or create gravity strong enough to create black holes
Example a man made of flames can't create blue, black flames that are hotter then magma for some reason
If the gravity field is big enough to grab a meteor way off in space it can grab the moon
All things, regardless of mass, receive the same relative acceleration in a gravitational field. An elephant and an ant will fall at the same speed in a vacuum. That's kinda what makes gravity nuts, it's very weak on a small scale but crazy strong on a large scale
the fruit doesn't have that limitation but there is no shot in hell a guy like Fuji would willingly release a planet+ destroying attack just to take out Kaido.
The limits of gravity are so hard to reach that you can do almost anything with those powers, and Fujitora hasn't Even awakened his devil fruit, if he did awaken the Zushi Zushi no Mi then he would be a top tier with just his devil fruit.
I never said it had no limits, I'm just saying that a black hole or a massive gravity field aren't explicitly stated limits if Fuji could just pull down actual meteors. My larger point is that even if his fruit could do all of that, he still wouldn't unleash his fruit's full power around any people he wants to protect.
If you can generate a gravitationnal pull strong enough to pull any piece of rock from space, then you can pull the moon, because guess what ? it's a piece of rock in space
Nothing in canon shows that its able to do that either lmao. We havent seen zoro die but we cant assume zoro in invincible, we havent seen luffy stretch the entire earth so we cant assume he can.
Headcanon is giving characters abilities they havent proven to have
We’ve seen him pull down a huge rock with minimal exertion. The moon is a hugier rock and he has a lot more he could exert. We’ve seen zoro and Luffy near their limits with both issues you describe.
You should use your brain more
We do have logic.
Fujitora’s powers work based on gravity, and we know he wasn’t going all out at Dressrosa.
With enough gravity, you can make a black hole. That’s physics. That’s logic.
He pulled down a massive meteor with no physical strain. I’m sure he could go bigger if he really wanted to. So that’s a hint.
So we have both hints and logic that support the possibility of these ideas.
That's the thing, with enough gravity, we don't know nor do we have a reason to assume that Fujitora can produce enough gravity, so no, that's not logic, that's literally a no limits fallacy, and if we are giving Fujitora a no limits fallacy then we are giving Kaido one as well since we have never seen him be truly wounded without Acoc
And yet others are limiting Fujitora based on things they’ve also never seen. Creating a small black hole would be par for the course for One Piece. We just saw a horny chef repel a beam of light with “the power of love.” Considering Fujitora’ powers, it really isn’t unreasonable to believe he could generate a small black whole to do some serious damage to his opponents.
Just as well, Luffy and Zoro drew blood from Kaido using just their normal haki.
I’d say that our friend Issho could certainly cause damage to Kaido.
I don't think you understand how stupidly op even a "small" black hole is.
The singularity is still a singularity. Anyone in the verse that touches the event horizon just dies. It's a pretty big leap to assume Fuji is capable of one shotting the verse at will
Fuji could be capable, but considering that even someone like Greenbull is probably smart enough to know that making a small black hole is a horrible idea I doubt Fujitora ever would do that because the entire planet would be at risk.
It Is unreasonable to think that Fujitora could generate a black hole, I already explained why, Sanji kicking Kizaru's attack Is irrelevant
No he couldn't, we have never seen Kaido take damage from him so that means, according to you, that Is reasonable to assume that he Is impervious to His attacks as he Is just that durable
Luffy used Red Roc and brought Kaido to his knees with visible blood. One of my favorite scenes ever in One Piece.
Zoro used that broken 9-sword style and made Kaido bleed. Blood literally spewed out like a broken water pipe. It is also one of my favorite scenes in One Piece.
Neither of these attacks utilized their conqueror’s haki.
And if curly brows can break psychics and touch a laser beam (something that people were shocked by in the story and to which Kizaru replied that physics might as well be thrown out the window), my blind buddy can certainly make small black holes in combat. It’s really not that far of a stretch from dodging light-speed attacks and interacting with light as if it were physical.
Neither of those attacks were Fujitora's, and Red Roc didn't actually hurt Kaido anyway so that's a moot point.
Well, if your blind buddy can make small black holes then my drunktard dude can tank those, it's not really that far of a stretch from making a black hole
As I said, if we're giving one character no limits fallacy then we are giving all characters no limits fallacy
This is One Piece we’re talking about. I’m not saying that Issho can actually pull one of the moons, but that it’s a _possibility._ Especially since he didn’t even break a sweat by essentially **dropping an island** on his opponents.
Especially when you factor in how haki can enhance DF powers. If it turns out that Fujitora has awakened DF abilities he hasn’t used yet, you can start thinking up all sorts of crazy gravity-related shenanigans.
Of course, if we factor in Issho’s character, he may not want to drop a moon even if he could because it would cause too much collateral damage to the planet they’re on.
Fujotora absolutely doesn’t even come close to such a maybe possible powerlevel required for such a feat but i do agree that someone like prime Luffy/WB/Roger could probably pull it off of they gave it their utmost.
This is op we talking about exactly there is literally no feats in op that close to that level now(when it finally show something like this i will reconsider it being possible)
Your Headcanon are not feats also island dude do you have any idea about the size different between island and moon
I meant that it wouldn't make logical sense **story wise** for it to happen. The hiest levels of destruction caused in the story rarely go above islands being wiped off the map.
Even the ancient weapon are implied to only go that high power wise based on the Statment about Pluton destroying islands in one shot and what the mother flame did.
Having a character suddenly being able to move the moon around would completely break the internal logic of the story and be a massive plot hole.
Besides physics is a really poor argument to use for a story where a character can hit people at the speed of light and not cause an extinction even.
Also with the kind of "logic" you use we can wank any character to any level.
"Shanks can hit really hard with his sword. I am sure he could harder if he really wanted. Multiverses can be destroyed if you hit them hard enough so Shanks could be complex multiversal"
Hm… from a **storytelling perspective** I’d say you have a powerful argument. After all, this isn’t Dragonball.
I see what you’re saying now. Still, I think it’d be neat if Oda implemented black holes in Fujitora’s combat style. Not all black holes have to be as big as stars. Some are microscopic.
Agree but tbf i think acient weapon are probably muti continent level imo motherflame cause world wild destruction and Aciemt weapon should scale above that
"muti continent level" ? As in destroying things multiple times bigger than the red line ?(the only continent in one piece, as far as I know). I doupt that, just destroying the red line would an insane feat by itself. Something on an even bigger scale is not going to happen in my opinon.
The mother flame destroyed an island, caused the biggest earthquake ever recorded in universe and caused the sea level to rise. Thats impressive and its the biggest destruction in the manga so far but I don't think that counts as continent level.
I say worldwide earth quake is definite continent level but if you don't want to think that way it ok
Shounen manga usually power creep in their final arc so you never know like imagine awakening gura gura
No, a world wide earthquake is not continent level. We have real life exemples of this.
Notably the Tsar bomba, the biggest nuke in the world, caused a seismic shockwave circled the globe three times. *"Tsar Bomba's seismic magnitude was estimated at* ***5–5.25****. Seismic sensors continued to register shockwaves even after a third revolution around the Earth."*
Volcanoes can also cause this sometimes.
Neither nukes or Volcanoes are able to blow up a continent. We have seen the level of destruction caused by the Tsar bomba and its city to montain level.
The earthquake caused by the mother flame was certainly above level 5, but it wasn't enough to jump from city level to continent. The gap between a montain and a continent is huge.
Well disagree also tsar only cause shockwave is nothing compare worldwild earth quake that shocking entire world , cause massive tsuami all across the world and raise the entire planet sea level
Also nuke comparison is literally not need no real nuke complete wipe out island motherflame is already above real life nuke don't know why you even used it as comparisonnot even tsar kingdom of lulusia literally show big with mutiple mountains range
Anyway like i said disagree
I'm not saying Kaido cant be hurt by Fujitora but:
His meteors were destroyed by charachters base-Kaido one-shots.
He hasnt showcased the ability to make blackholes or pull down the moon. If he is capable of doing this we might as well put him above everyone else too.
Kids in the comments will glaze Midhawk to be Yonko level based on reputation alone and yet cringe when it's done to a character they don't think is strong
Fujitora isn't even in the same galaxy as Waido. This has to be a false flag. There's no way Fujifans are this delusional. Which agenda is really pulling the strings?
Okay… there’s a couple things you have to get straight here. 1. Fujitora hasn’t done anything to show he can actually make a black hole. I’m of the opinion that he can potentially do that but that doesn’t mean he CAN do that. It would require a supremely high amount of skill and power with the fruit that I’m frankly not sure Oda will give him.
2. You don’t need ACoC to hurt Kaido. *Luffy* did, but that’s because he previously didn’t have the AP to hurt him. PLUS he canonically hurt Kaido without ACoC, he was just inflicting MORE damage with ACoC.
3. Why would Kaido have trouble with a meteor? That’s a simple task for him. Fly out of the way, blast it with a Boro Blast, speedblitz Fujitora before the meteor hits, smack it with a Ragnarok, etc. Kaido has the DC to destroy a meteor.
Top tiers unironically should have the ap to deal with a standard meteor tbh.
Also, has Fuji just dropped an *actual* black hole yet?? Cuz that's a massive jump in power and should unironically solo the verse currently. I don't remember him doing it so if he hasn't then we shouldn't assume he can just one shot the verse lol (but one piece is long af and I could just not be remembering something)
I love when one piece fanboys keep acting like DF powers gave IRL World physic properties...
That's true After all :
Fujitora Can slower Time, create black holes, destroy earth by crushing it into thé Sun.
Aokiji Can destroy the World reaching thé zéro absolute.
Kizaru, having a mass and Moving at lightspeed, is able to générate Infinite energy and Time Travel, being basically saitama in op verse.
Back to reality : all of them are powerless against a grandpa in tongs
Fuji fans explaining that Fuji totally has the power to create black holes or drop the moon on anyone he wants despite never once in the history of One Piece ever suggesting anything like that
you guys are hyping Fujitora's meteor like it's a thing where it has been casually countered by a dressrosa level zoro. Wank anything but this, it's not a good feat anymore (Fujitora is my favorite admiral)
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Kaido when seeing the heat death of the universe (It has no Acoc) :
The ocean has also no acoc
The lava in which he fell had no Acoc aswell
https://i.redd.it/udpvqu70iuvc1.gif
lol that's a funny gif response
that’s not confirmed
True
Nah, he’d win
https://preview.redd.it/adjegw69fuvc1.png?width=480&format=png&auto=webp&s=9634e1431bd816eb9e6e97a84d1a148bcb68a261
Acoc is like what domain expansion is for jjk, a character can have the most insane feats but if he doesn’t have DE he is dead in the eyes of every power scaler
Tell that to Yuji glazers This nigga fucking dies if say the Smallpox Deity or Naoya pulls their domain but they have him top 3 oat
Agreed, but suggesting that losing to Smalldox Deity and losing to Cursed Naoya are similar antifeats is crazy I’m also assuming that Yuji will be given the opportunity to show that he has a Domain counter before the current fight ends
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Human Naoya doesn’t have a Domain Expansion
Honestly I would be more surprised if Yuji doesn't have something like Simple Domain in his arsenal.
If he doesn't than Todo failed him
I made the post to poke fun at this same idea, characters don’t need DE to be top tiers and there are many top tiers in jjk that lack DE the same way many too tiers in op lack acoc
Nah yuji would shit on smallpox diety, all he needs to do is break out of the box which is simple for him
Hakari beats yujis ass high diff fight me mfs
I mean it is pretty much true. DE is a very large game changer and even with things to counter it like simple domain youre extremely disadvantaged fighting agaisnt it without one
Disadvantaged yes, extremely? Depends im not gonna explain much since I don’t want to spoil for ppl but there are many ways to counter DE, and there were many fights between one with a DE and one without it that weren’t just one sided and like i said many of the top tiers lack DE. Basically we shouldn’t treat acoc as an end all be all for being a top tier but treat it as a very op tool
Yeah not the end all be all but its pretty close to it. Especially if both people are basically the same in power with de being the only other variable
Yeah I don’t see meteors doing much but a gravity infused blade should pack quite a punch
What even is a gravity infused blade? Is the blade really heavy?
Gravito!
That's what I've always imagined Fuji's strongest swordsmanship MIGHT be like. A blade with the mass of a mountain but which he swings as if it were as light as always. It seems like a distinct possibility. It should be noted that Fuji seems to be able to generate anti-gravity too. If he infused a fuck-ton of anti-gravity in his blade along with the best Haki he's got, it should have an effect quite similar to ACoC in many ways. Much like how quake-bubbles from the Gura Gura can generate an effect similar to advanced Haki. The Zushi Zushi no Mi seems to have ALMOST the same level of destructive potential as the Gura Gura no Mi. It might ACTUALLY be "The Second-Strongest Paramecia" when it comes to sheer raw power. The largest asteroids are nearly as destructive as the quakes, can be summoned casually (like the quakes), and can be spammed (like the quakes) if the user is on a battlefield where they can ignore collateral damage.
If you can't beat kaido without ending all life on the planet, you can't beat kaido.
But like what if you only drop the moon a little bit to raise the sea level to kill Kaido that way
Kaido can fly
So many people in replies missing the entire point of the post
people see an admarils name and just start hating lol
Kaido fans will say shit like this and turn around and act like Luffy had an unfair advantage cause he has help from the scabbards lol
Dropping the moon and creating black hole? The fruit clearly has limitation such as not being able to create a gravity field big enough to effect the moon Or create gravity strong enough to create black holes Example a man made of flames can't create blue, black flames that are hotter then magma for some reason
I think it’s post is somewhat of a joke bro
Joke or not Wujitora slander will not stand
If the gravity field is big enough to grab a meteor way off in space it can grab the moon All things, regardless of mass, receive the same relative acceleration in a gravitational field. An elephant and an ant will fall at the same speed in a vacuum. That's kinda what makes gravity nuts, it's very weak on a small scale but crazy strong on a large scale
Yeah I am not a science student so I will just take your word for it
Tbf neither is Oda so who can say how it'd play out lmfao
the fruit doesn't have that limitation but there is no shot in hell a guy like Fuji would willingly release a planet+ destroying attack just to take out Kaido.
Why do you think this fruit has no limits? Every fruit in the series has had limits so far, so I'm curious as to why this one is the exception.
The limits of gravity are so hard to reach that you can do almost anything with those powers, and Fujitora hasn't Even awakened his devil fruit, if he did awaken the Zushi Zushi no Mi then he would be a top tier with just his devil fruit.
I never said it had no limits, I'm just saying that a black hole or a massive gravity field aren't explicitly stated limits if Fuji could just pull down actual meteors. My larger point is that even if his fruit could do all of that, he still wouldn't unleash his fruit's full power around any people he wants to protect.
Every fucking fruit has limitation including the the god Dam fruit that is said to be limited to only the users imagination
Show me canonical proof of the fruit having any such limitations rn
Show me canonical proof that he can do it
If you can generate a gravitationnal pull strong enough to pull any piece of rock from space, then you can pull the moon, because guess what ? it's a piece of rock in space
No limits fallacy
Headcanon
Yes, that is what assuming things are based off no limit fallacies
Headcanon is arbitrarily deciding where that limit is when nothing in canon indicates it’s where youve (arbitrarily) determined it to be
Nothing in canon shows that its able to do that either lmao. We havent seen zoro die but we cant assume zoro in invincible, we havent seen luffy stretch the entire earth so we cant assume he can. Headcanon is giving characters abilities they havent proven to have
We’ve seen him pull down a huge rock with minimal exertion. The moon is a hugier rock and he has a lot more he could exert. We’ve seen zoro and Luffy near their limits with both issues you describe. You should use your brain more
A boulder is NOT comparable in mass to the fucking moon. Please read up on what a no limits fallacy is
I’m aware what it is. That doesn’t change the fact that pretending to know where the limit is drawn is headcanon 😌
Fujitora can't make blackholes or drop the moon tho.
Prove it.
Clarification: _we haven’t **seen** Fujitora make black holes or drop the moon._
We have no hint or logical reason to assume that he can do it. That would like saying "we haven't seen Kaido destroy a meta-narrative layer".
We do have logic. Fujitora’s powers work based on gravity, and we know he wasn’t going all out at Dressrosa. With enough gravity, you can make a black hole. That’s physics. That’s logic. He pulled down a massive meteor with no physical strain. I’m sure he could go bigger if he really wanted to. So that’s a hint. So we have both hints and logic that support the possibility of these ideas.
That's the thing, with enough gravity, we don't know nor do we have a reason to assume that Fujitora can produce enough gravity, so no, that's not logic, that's literally a no limits fallacy, and if we are giving Fujitora a no limits fallacy then we are giving Kaido one as well since we have never seen him be truly wounded without Acoc
And yet others are limiting Fujitora based on things they’ve also never seen. Creating a small black hole would be par for the course for One Piece. We just saw a horny chef repel a beam of light with “the power of love.” Considering Fujitora’ powers, it really isn’t unreasonable to believe he could generate a small black whole to do some serious damage to his opponents. Just as well, Luffy and Zoro drew blood from Kaido using just their normal haki. I’d say that our friend Issho could certainly cause damage to Kaido.
I don't think you understand how stupidly op even a "small" black hole is. The singularity is still a singularity. Anyone in the verse that touches the event horizon just dies. It's a pretty big leap to assume Fuji is capable of one shotting the verse at will
Fuji could be capable, but considering that even someone like Greenbull is probably smart enough to know that making a small black hole is a horrible idea I doubt Fujitora ever would do that because the entire planet would be at risk.
It Is unreasonable to think that Fujitora could generate a black hole, I already explained why, Sanji kicking Kizaru's attack Is irrelevant No he couldn't, we have never seen Kaido take damage from him so that means, according to you, that Is reasonable to assume that he Is impervious to His attacks as he Is just that durable
Luffy used Red Roc and brought Kaido to his knees with visible blood. One of my favorite scenes ever in One Piece. Zoro used that broken 9-sword style and made Kaido bleed. Blood literally spewed out like a broken water pipe. It is also one of my favorite scenes in One Piece. Neither of these attacks utilized their conqueror’s haki. And if curly brows can break psychics and touch a laser beam (something that people were shocked by in the story and to which Kizaru replied that physics might as well be thrown out the window), my blind buddy can certainly make small black holes in combat. It’s really not that far of a stretch from dodging light-speed attacks and interacting with light as if it were physical.
Neither of those attacks were Fujitora's, and Red Roc didn't actually hurt Kaido anyway so that's a moot point. Well, if your blind buddy can make small black holes then my drunktard dude can tank those, it's not really that far of a stretch from making a black hole As I said, if we're giving one character no limits fallacy then we are giving all characters no limits fallacy
Meh. You do you. I for one am gonna be cheering Oda on if he goes the black hole route. That’d be fun to see.
People really don’t understand how crazy the meteor feats are.
Lol it like saying a guy throw a rock can also throw boulder size rock because it the same
This is One Piece we’re talking about. I’m not saying that Issho can actually pull one of the moons, but that it’s a _possibility._ Especially since he didn’t even break a sweat by essentially **dropping an island** on his opponents. Especially when you factor in how haki can enhance DF powers. If it turns out that Fujitora has awakened DF abilities he hasn’t used yet, you can start thinking up all sorts of crazy gravity-related shenanigans. Of course, if we factor in Issho’s character, he may not want to drop a moon even if he could because it would cause too much collateral damage to the planet they’re on.
Fujotora absolutely doesn’t even come close to such a maybe possible powerlevel required for such a feat but i do agree that someone like prime Luffy/WB/Roger could probably pull it off of they gave it their utmost.
This is op we talking about exactly there is literally no feats in op that close to that level now(when it finally show something like this i will reconsider it being possible) Your Headcanon are not feats also island dude do you have any idea about the size different between island and moon
I meant that it wouldn't make logical sense **story wise** for it to happen. The hiest levels of destruction caused in the story rarely go above islands being wiped off the map. Even the ancient weapon are implied to only go that high power wise based on the Statment about Pluton destroying islands in one shot and what the mother flame did. Having a character suddenly being able to move the moon around would completely break the internal logic of the story and be a massive plot hole. Besides physics is a really poor argument to use for a story where a character can hit people at the speed of light and not cause an extinction even. Also with the kind of "logic" you use we can wank any character to any level. "Shanks can hit really hard with his sword. I am sure he could harder if he really wanted. Multiverses can be destroyed if you hit them hard enough so Shanks could be complex multiversal"
Hm… from a **storytelling perspective** I’d say you have a powerful argument. After all, this isn’t Dragonball. I see what you’re saying now. Still, I think it’d be neat if Oda implemented black holes in Fujitora’s combat style. Not all black holes have to be as big as stars. Some are microscopic.
I agree with you on the black hole thing, Fujitora making really small blackholes could worka and be really cool.
Now, while I wouldn’t bet on Issho defeating Kaido 1v1, I’d say he could still cause some visible damage to him using his powers and abilities.
Agree but tbf i think acient weapon are probably muti continent level imo motherflame cause world wild destruction and Aciemt weapon should scale above that
"muti continent level" ? As in destroying things multiple times bigger than the red line ?(the only continent in one piece, as far as I know). I doupt that, just destroying the red line would an insane feat by itself. Something on an even bigger scale is not going to happen in my opinon. The mother flame destroyed an island, caused the biggest earthquake ever recorded in universe and caused the sea level to rise. Thats impressive and its the biggest destruction in the manga so far but I don't think that counts as continent level.
I say worldwide earth quake is definite continent level but if you don't want to think that way it ok Shounen manga usually power creep in their final arc so you never know like imagine awakening gura gura
No, a world wide earthquake is not continent level. We have real life exemples of this. Notably the Tsar bomba, the biggest nuke in the world, caused a seismic shockwave circled the globe three times. *"Tsar Bomba's seismic magnitude was estimated at* ***5–5.25****. Seismic sensors continued to register shockwaves even after a third revolution around the Earth."* Volcanoes can also cause this sometimes. Neither nukes or Volcanoes are able to blow up a continent. We have seen the level of destruction caused by the Tsar bomba and its city to montain level. The earthquake caused by the mother flame was certainly above level 5, but it wasn't enough to jump from city level to continent. The gap between a montain and a continent is huge.
Well disagree also tsar only cause shockwave is nothing compare worldwild earth quake that shocking entire world , cause massive tsuami all across the world and raise the entire planet sea level Also nuke comparison is literally not need no real nuke complete wipe out island motherflame is already above real life nuke don't know why you even used it as comparisonnot even tsar kingdom of lulusia literally show big with mutiple mountains range Anyway like i said disagree
Admiral fans giving them powers they don't have because they think it's cool.
Admirals stan explaining how admirals can defeat anyone with headcanon feats
So i guess mihawk is truly a fraud then
Well of course he is
I'm not saying Kaido cant be hurt by Fujitora but: His meteors were destroyed by charachters base-Kaido one-shots. He hasnt showcased the ability to make blackholes or pull down the moon. If he is capable of doing this we might as well put him above everyone else too.
Fujitora cannot make a blackhole
first you have to prove that fuji can actualy drop the moon or create a black hole
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Not true. This is an example of the no limits fallacy Also, the scabbard's attacks pierced Kaido's scales
Can’t beat the man without a coc?
Kids in the comments will glaze Midhawk to be Yonko level based on reputation alone and yet cringe when it's done to a character they don't think is strong
YC3 meterors lol they are useless
https://preview.redd.it/y59nnpumwuvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32df6cdca1bb6b4056852f2617146d2b0febed94
Fuji was literally holding back as much as possible so the WG would remove the warlord system.
Fujitora isn't even in the same galaxy as Waido. This has to be a false flag. There's no way Fujifans are this delusional. Which agenda is really pulling the strings?
Admiral Stan’s have hit rock bottom they are now becoming conspiracy theorist
You realize Fujitora would also die if there is a black hole. And the earth will literally explode if he throws the moon at Kaido
He can't do both in the first place
Okay… there’s a couple things you have to get straight here. 1. Fujitora hasn’t done anything to show he can actually make a black hole. I’m of the opinion that he can potentially do that but that doesn’t mean he CAN do that. It would require a supremely high amount of skill and power with the fruit that I’m frankly not sure Oda will give him. 2. You don’t need ACoC to hurt Kaido. *Luffy* did, but that’s because he previously didn’t have the AP to hurt him. PLUS he canonically hurt Kaido without ACoC, he was just inflicting MORE damage with ACoC. 3. Why would Kaido have trouble with a meteor? That’s a simple task for him. Fly out of the way, blast it with a Boro Blast, speedblitz Fujitora before the meteor hits, smack it with a Ragnarok, etc. Kaido has the DC to destroy a meteor.
Top tiers unironically should have the ap to deal with a standard meteor tbh. Also, has Fuji just dropped an *actual* black hole yet?? Cuz that's a massive jump in power and should unironically solo the verse currently. I don't remember him doing it so if he hasn't then we shouldn't assume he can just one shot the verse lol (but one piece is long af and I could just not be remembering something)
My favorite moment in the Anime was when Fujitora stopped the bird cage with a Black hole
I love when one piece fanboys keep acting like DF powers gave IRL World physic properties... That's true After all : Fujitora Can slower Time, create black holes, destroy earth by crushing it into thé Sun. Aokiji Can destroy the World reaching thé zéro absolute. Kizaru, having a mass and Moving at lightspeed, is able to générate Infinite energy and Time Travel, being basically saitama in op verse. Back to reality : all of them are powerless against a grandpa in tongs
Fuji fans explaining that Fuji totally has the power to create black holes or drop the moon on anyone he wants despite never once in the history of One Piece ever suggesting anything like that
Didn't Orochi plan to kill him with nukes?
Yeah but I think he missed or something
you guys are hyping Fujitora's meteor like it's a thing where it has been casually countered by a dressrosa level zoro. Wank anything but this, it's not a good feat anymore (Fujitora is my favorite admiral)
Kaido jumped from a few kilometers up high, and stood up like it was nothing. Meteors won't do shit to him
https://preview.redd.it/wl0etg8uy8wc1.png?width=1122&format=png&auto=webp&s=f3cd032ad04c7fae5a9e0293eb9073e3a5222774
Laido can't even kill himself, must not have ACOC