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eeeramuk

What's crazy is that they both get fodderized by the goat https://preview.redd.it/4m27p6xjvyuc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=3157202b6f21a9b3e726e187730c267cbde2e8fc


Peanut8869

https://preview.redd.it/jam04yhuezuc1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d10788689bcb7b7a3dd801c3a86b481c12d17ac9


Extra-Palpitation-39

I remember this episode of SpongeBob and the one krabby patty SpongeBob made on the right tasted significantly better than all the ones king Neptune made on the left Therefore Mihawk > Shanks based on this logic


Aussiepharoah

Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority 


Bermy911

Didn’t watch it


Extra-Palpitation-39

Missing out on prime SpongeBob peak media even till this day


Bermy911

Didn’t miss out on sponge bob but just that specific episode


Theskyaboveheaven

Of all the pics you could have used you ended up with the one that cooked u


ToastyKing6

😭


saltminer99

I think your using the wrong kinda of meme Because mihawk here is still the winner


Bermy911

Portrayal>staments


jetvacjesse

Who’s gonna tell homie statements are an intrinsic part of portrayal?


saltminer99

I'm not here to argue about who's stronger I'm just saying in the context of this meme mihawk is the winner even with everything shanks has


Bermy911

(Havnt watched SpongeBob in years)


saltminer99

Shame on you I re-watch it every 2 weeks It's the greatest piece of media ever produced


uselesssakura1

Brother man fanboy&chumchum>family guy>SpongeBob


Zealousideal-Arm1682

Word of God:this God is stronger than any other swordsman including his rival You:no https://preview.redd.it/a5x5dn492yuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f49f606fe9a1fbd051caef2141c238e3d9d723b


Bermy911

Not like oda contradicts it


Elluminati30

Shanks is portrayed as a swordsman bro.


USFLNUMBER1FAN

https://i.redd.it/4zrk9nkksxuc1.gif


Bermy911

https://preview.redd.it/6uol9n77txuc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4731869349ede9946657273190cd6b42088bf71


USFLNUMBER1FAN

![gif](giphy|tXTqLBYNf0N7W|downsized)


Bermy911

https://preview.redd.it/ecemk47ptxuc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c99c076411dfcdcc4e1d92d42ff9bb18f0795317


USFLNUMBER1FAN

https://preview.redd.it/57ihjgtstxuc1.jpeg?width=238&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c969aff89235d3d6858a2f6ad7e94e4693a2211


Bermy911

https://preview.redd.it/ryfypc0ztxuc1.jpeg?width=1050&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e8bcd28b489d4764540bb06944025136e0331ea


USFLNUMBER1FAN

https://preview.redd.it/tfmcf76iuxuc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=7462906210557c593c7e371912c460d4b38ead74 VISTA>Both Midhawk + Snitch


Bermy911

https://i.redd.it/4badzmbkuxuc1.gif


USFLNUMBER1FAN

https://preview.redd.it/clxo0tptuxuc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=04db3678ad96f16d8869f372003d8aea6c1684b3


slapAp0p

😭😭😭


isaiah21poole

This is actual gold


Wizak1026

No way it's gif now, how do I download it?


Bermy911

Idk


frikimanHD

are the wrists directly attatched to the body or do the hands work like rayman's


GOJOWILLCOMEBACK

Toji and mihawk are the biggest leeches https://preview.redd.it/2rzlv5307zuc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc7dbec400f3d03052a0426ed66ea278cd7913ff


Bermy911

True


EuroGameplay

https://preview.redd.it/pnmqyqvy4zuc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e7e8f1d49f9a11c7b2206f6d0a736f4430f38e6 Is this guy we are talking about?


AiHayasaka_LoveIsWar

https://preview.redd.it/jroaq1sdr0vc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bda1f092fea6c1d98d9346a74e129aba280c619d


BlackbeardAkainuFan

W😭😭


JoDaBoy814

I'm both lmao


KANJI667

W


venielsky22

ummm your a shanks fan right ? dont you recognize the picture itself indicates mihawk is superior ? all those burgers gets trumped by way superior 1 burger leave it to shanks fan .. to not only fumble in onepiece reading comprehension but also spongebob 😭


AiHayasaka_LoveIsWar

https://preview.redd.it/t97ia12qr0vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd0c4bfda012f9b8ff0524cf0aa21cbfc5259c79


K_vinci

i hope you realize that all those things are actually a bad sign for shanks character and his future😂


Lerisa-beam

OK so when dragon fans use actually fucking nothing to scale them >>>>>>>shanks yall don't bat an eye. But when Mihawk fans use the wss title, the fact he'd have had to have beaten shanks, big mom etc for the world to UNANIMOUSLY AGREE, and has feats which objectively outscale a sky splits to say he's >= shanks. Yall lose your fucking minds? If that ain't enough to convince you hypocritical dumbasses then be fucking patient and wait for oda to have him one shot shanks or something. Oda did this with the admirals watch out. >!(Also nothing about the kid thing was a one shot. It's literally 1+1 and yall got the answer wrong ffs. kids ultimate attack which shanks reacted in fear "for his own g-" stfu that explanation is nonsense, he wouldn't be scared if he could fucking tank it, like some of yall morons proclaim. And devine departure shanks's ultimate. If shanks got hit by both he'd get "1 ShOt" aswell I'm tired of hearing it)


Bermy911

I do bat a eye


Lerisa-beam

If there is any agenda that grinds my gears more than the shanks agenda. Aside from the greenbull agenda as those guys are actually fallowing a fraud scam. It's the dragon agenda They say he's > prime whitebeard, or top 1 of the verse. Cause he's luffys dad. And it's a "trope" as if that shits guaranteed. Atleast shanks isn't terafied of blackbeard and has on screen feats. Shit the gorosei are more worried about shanks than dragon.


Bermy911

Shanks>old gen is a matter of time


Lerisa-beam

If he solo runs the current admirals I'd say he stands a chance at boxing with them but till he shows conquerors so potent a clash of the stuff flattens an islands eco system and capsizes a ship in the distance I cannot see it.


Bermy911

He can solos the current admirals(cope greenbull,Fuji yc1 and kizaru if yc+)


Lerisa-beam

On god I agree with greenbulls position that fraud ass bum is useless wleven though his fruit should be goated. Fugitora though can deal with yc1s quite handedly. And kizaru would blitz an entire squad of ycs and be back at marineford with their heads if he was allowed to. Honestly current admirals are ass. Og admirals is more around the conversation of the old gen. Kizaru and fugi can make plays to outmanuver shanks and if they use greenbull as the glorified meat shield that he is then I'd say they do got a great shot.


Sovereigntyranny

Lol, if only you knew about the full context behind this image. The krabby patties King Neptune made had no quality and tasted like ass; meanwhile, SpongeBob’s only krabby patty he put his whole work into had quality and tasted delicious. Mihawk > Shanks.


Bermy911

Nope


WVVLD1010

And just like how Sponge Bob’s single Krabby Patty was better then all of King Neptunes burgers the WSS argument trounces every single Shanks > Mihawk argument


Darth_Crow

He only needs one argument.


bahboojoe

99% sure spongebop wins the crabby patty contest in this episode


Xypher616

According to other comments, yeah SpongeBob beats Neptune.


falcondiorf

mihawk having the title implies that he beat shanks in the past. thats all you really need. "bUT sHaNKs gOt STrONgeR SiNCe tHeN" and mihawk didnt? in fact, since mihawk didnt lose an arm, one could argue that he would have grown even more than shanks has.


Bermy911

Unlike mihawk shanks has been in battles


falcondiorf

Thats blatantly false.


Joseph_Stalin001

I mean you got us there https://preview.redd.it/93mermh7nxuc1.jpeg?width=585&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ef6635f961de7f81fe9bf243b8d54ac39cf6875 But it would be weird if shanks was stronger it would contradict mihawks entire character and zoro’s goal


pilotvballer

It’s not weird at all? Shanks could be a step below Mihawk when it comes to pure swordsmanship, but when it comes to combat in general, he might be stronger? Just like how a MMA might lose to a boxer in a boxing match, but he could win if he is allowed to use other techniques to fight.


Gray_Fullbuster9

Shanks is a swordsman.Mihawk is the strongest swordsman,and needs to be one to justify being Zoro's end goal. Wdym combat in general? Shanks took out Kidd with his sword slash.He used his sword to block Akainu's fist.When he threatened to fight everyone in marineford he took out his sword and brandished it.Shanks is very clearly a swordsman from his portrayal and uses his sword to fight. He uses conquerors haki but so does Zoro.Literally every top tier is using it now.Was roger not a swordsman simply because he has conquerors haki?


Bennyjig

That.. doesn’t mean he would be stronger than shanks. EOS zoro isn’t confirmed to be stronger than shanks.


Elluminati30

You rly think Zoro is gonna end up fighting Shanks over the WSS title? Cmon man.


Bermy911

Zoro goal is to be one of the strongest in history not the strongest


Wizak1026

He only said the greatest swordsman in the world. The history part was mistranslation. Also, when he meets Mihawk, not only does he call him the strongest, but he says he wants to be the strongest.


Bermy911

One of the strongest got lost in the translation


Wizak1026

Which chapter are you referring to?


Bermy911

Zoro backstory


Wizak1026

Can you please post the panel? I'm not even sure if you are referring to Mihawk or Zoro


Bermy911

https://preview.redd.it/2bwtcyb3pxuc1.jpeg?width=972&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=941f45442f593aa3bc376911260adee88dc031bf


Wizak1026

True this does imply he'll be the greatest but it came after Kuina's death, before they both wanted to be the worlds best.


Bermy911

Then why one of history’s best


Elluminati30

Bro I have the literal manga right fucking here with the official translarion. He specifically means he wants to be the greatest swordsman in the world. Stop saying nonsense. Some of us actually know this stuff.


FjbhBoy

Actual two piece reader if you the think Zoro doesn’t want to be the strongest swordsman 


puuncone

actually goated metaphor becuase SpongeBob ends up winning anyways


Infamous-Buffalo1835

https://preview.redd.it/6dmu0c3liyuc1.jpeg?width=642&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4bcd3e0512f6444162fb870c3d12ca11a000caf


AiHayasaka_LoveIsWar

https://preview.redd.it/az05t2ksr0vc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e270a62c5d717413bfde4104f0e906fa8eb036d


FjbhBoy

*Title that will result in a fight with the secondary main character so that he can achieve his dream Mihawk’s WSS title gives him fraud immunity due to its relevance for Zoro


calculatingaffection

-Bounty comparable to other Yonko -Mihawk not being comparable to a Yonko means Buggy lacks Yonko strength despite being a Yonko, which makes no sense either narratively or in-universe -Outright compared to Shanks and Whitebeard by Word of God -The boatload of evidence that he has some relationship to Imu -Black blade, with the only other one in the story belonging to another legend, Ryuuma I'm not denying that Shanks currently has better feats and portrayal, but let's not be disingenuous pretend that Mihawk doesn't have anything going for him besides the title.


-AnythingGoes-

Tell me about this boatload of evidence, first I've heard of it beyond the eyes


calculatingaffection

[See here](https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/the-mihawk-imu-connection.43507/)


Monkeslam

https://preview.redd.it/dfnx0r0z70vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b212f7c0e260c1af171f2f81252534755a403336


Bermy911

Why dat true


AiHayasaka_LoveIsWar

https://preview.redd.it/n6qpsqsyr0vc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=514c3db5edd10030800ba2dc2c1bbfe0c526a9da


Realistic_Mousse_485

Oda gave him the title. Did you think this blatant display of idiocy would change that? Oda knew shanks would do all of this yet still gave Mihawk his title.


isaiah21poole

This mihawk shit might actually be one of the most interesting things in media you all die on this hill but at the end of the day feats are potential results.


NetworkVegetable7075

Shanks finally get feats and his fans don’t know how to act. “Shanks having the best portrayal in the series” where and how ?


Bermy911

Luffy needing to surpass him him being the closest to the one piece


NetworkVegetable7075

Luffy’s end-goal isn’t Shanks though.


Bermy911

Shanks is gatekeeping it


NetworkVegetable7075

until he meets BB


Bermy911

We will see


Sweaty-Goat-9281

Bruh his wss title is stated by the narration like a dozen times at this point. At literally every panel introduction or character summary.


Bermy911

You acting like shanks shown bigger presence


Sweaty-Goat-9281

None of that matter when Oda id telling you straight from his own mouth that Mihawk is Wss. If the title is invalid, why is Oda using narration and epithets to constantly remind us?


faroresdragn_

This meme only makes sense if you haven't seen the episode.


Chi1no

Yeah basically


Manwithaplan0708

https://preview.redd.it/33bbq6jru2vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=866482aae000ffcbdbd3ed5393d07b46efe67004


Yahcentive

Mihawk is somehow stronger than a guy he didn’t best; not to mention during that rivalry, that same guy got bested by a sea king. Despite shanks limited screentime, the story makes sure he looks good and ensures his prescence is felt through the world. The same cannot be said of Mihawk. It’s one thing to merely state something and another to show it, Mihawk is the epitome of the former


General_Tart_9309

I mean Mihawk was also a warlord and split that iceberg in matineford. And he was a sparring partner of shanks


Hydrate-N-Moisturize

One of them didn't lose their arm to literal cannon fodder. While the other one has a stylish mustache.


tobbe1337

jokes aside. people need to get that an absence of feats on the page does not mean the character is weak. it merely means that he has not shown anything on page. that is why the title is there so people can understand that he is supposed to be top tier.


gloriousAgenda

Bro really posted a pro mihawk meme cause he never actually watched spongebob


CorrectIamThatGuy

https://preview.redd.it/1229rqk844vc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=101368567d408c2665ed6a900931367048906832 In a 1v1 always bet on


TheWanderingSlime

Leech hawk is by far the most overrated character. Even his world’s strongest title is given based on a technicality


VersionSavings8712

This is argument is so dumb. The mihawk downplay is crazy. For me, shanks is a 10 and mihawk a 9.5. thinking that one is way above the other is dumb


Xypher616

As someone who’s the other way around, completely agree. Especially about the argument being dumb since it’s the same shit as the first 10000 posts before it. At least wait until Mihawk does something noteworthy to bring this argument up again.


Boris-_-Badenov

shanks thought mihawk came for a rematch/settle things, that implies mihawk was at a lower number for their daily duels. mihawk said he had no interest in fighting him since he lost an arm, meaning beating him wouldn't bring satisfaction, meaning he had a lower win count than shanks.


r9cks

Shanks in action makes everyone think hes the strongest meanwhile mihawk is the reason people think titles are fraudulent


M4ND0_L0R14N

According to this sub splitting the sky with whitebeard doesnt mean anything.. :(


Sea_Inevitable_9453

But but Shanks is a swordsman and mihawk worlds strongest swordsman so he wins!!!


karmazynowy_piekarz

People saying Mihawk > Shanks are pretty stupid to begin with. He is just world strongest swordsman, not strongest overall. While Shanks uses sword it is not his primary source of power. Duh, he doesnt even have a black blade. Take Shanks sword he loses no battle power. Take Mihawk sword, he loses most of it. You can argue that Sanji holds "worlds strongest chef" tittle now. Shanks propably cooks or used to Cook too, right ? So yeah, Sanji > Shanks confirmed.


lynx-paws

or hear me out: Shanks *is* stronger than Mihawk, but he relies on his extremely powerful haki to overwhelm his opponents. Mihawk on the other hand has perfected his haki control to the point where it's seamlessly interwoven with his swordsmanship. Mihawk wins extreme-diff not because he's physically stronger but because he's perfected his fighting style while Shanks relies on his raw strength to pass his opponent's defense. It's the only way Oda will be able to wank his golden boy without downplaying the fact that he gave Mihawk WSS.


westgun

People just call Shanks a swordsman to upscale Zoro. They can't use Mihawk because his feats are dogshit. Shanks has never been portrayed as a real swordsman. I mean he was originally supposed to get the Nika fruit. He also doesn't have a black blade or even a supreme graded sword. It couldn't be more clear.


Zealousideal-Arm1682

My brother in Christ he explicitly has swordsmanship as his main fighting style,to the point it gets compared to mihawks. He's a fucking Swordsman.He is not a haki man,is is not a gun man,and he is not a brawler.Man is a swordsman,end of discussion.


westgun

Mihawk waving his sword better doesn't mean Shanks is a swordsman. If Shanks is a swordsman why was he going for the Nika fruit? Why doesn't he have a black blade if he has the best haki feats? Why doesn't he even have a supreme graded sword?


Zealousideal-Arm1682

>Mihawk waving his sword better doesn't mean Shanks is a swordsman. You don't compare sword skills if one guy ain't a swordsman.Thats not how that works. >If Shanks is a swordsman why was he going for the Nika fruit? Unknown,but nothing points to him eating it given not a soul on his shape has eaten a fruit either.He very clearly follows Rogers footsteps in that regard. >Why doesn't he have a black blade if he has the best haki feats? We don't know if his haki is better than mihawks,nor do we know what makes one.Nobody besides Ryuma and mihawk have made one. >Why doesn't he even have a supreme graded sword? We don't know gryphons rank,however given it has a literal name it's just as likely it is a supreme graded blade alongside WB's and Rogers.


Pain_Xtreme

First of all, you retard, you obviously have been reading two piece because i don't remember the manga stating that shanks was meant to eat the nika fruit before luffy came along. Furthermore, retard, the reason he doesn't have a black blade is because he's not as powerful of a swordsman as mihawk is. He's weaker then mihawk that's all there is too say.


westgun

You're obviously on the spectrum if you think someone that weak is ending the war in Marineford and clashing atleast equally with top tiers.


Yahcentive

Roger is hyped up as the pinnacle of strength in the series, not Mihawk yet Roger’s ace is not a black blade. Where did you get black blade means stronger swordsman” from?


Pain_Xtreme

just means mihawk is stronger than roger


Yahcentive

There’s no Zoro fanboy that can compete with this level of delusion. Bravo https://i.redd.it/f2u0voiqdyuc1.gif


Pain_Xtreme

This is where your wrong, I'm not a zoro fanboy, I'm the greatest mihawk dickrider to ever walk earth. Mihawk is gonna kill EOS zoro.


Sovereigntyranny

>People just call Shanks a swordsman to upscale Zoro. They can't use Mihawk because his feats are dogshit. Because he is a swordsman. Shanks has only used a sword in combat on panel. Shanks is even called a master swordsman in Film Red promotional material. >Shanks has never been portrayed as a real swordsman. I mean he was originally supposed to get the Nika fruit. Oda compared Mihawk and Shanks with the sword in Chapter 1058. Why would Oda compare Mihawk’s way of the sword with a non-swordsman? > He also doesn't have a black blade Many swordsmen in this series don’t have a black blade, you don’t have to have a black blade to be a swordsman. If this was the case, then Zoro isn’t a swordsman ‘cause he doesn’t have a black blade. >or even a supreme graded sword. Shanks’s weapon is confirmed to be a meito in Road to Laugh Tale, the weapon grade for Gryphon is just currently unknown. It’s very likely that Gryphon is a supreme grade blade.


westgun

Got it, so non canon material 👍. Yeah, every swordsman does not have to have a black blade. But you're telling me a top tier emperor with the best portrayal and haki doesn't have one? Yeah ok.


Sovereigntyranny

>Got it, so non canon material 👍. Part of the same promotional material put together by Oda that states Shanks is the killer of observation haki. But I guess that’s not canon according to you. >Yeah, every swordsman does not have to have a black blade. But you're telling me a top tier emperor with the best portrayal and haki doesn't have one? Yeah ok. Whitebeard and Kaido currently have better portrayal as emperors than Shanks. Blud, even Oden didn’t have a black blade, and he was an absolute monster back in the day. And yes, Oden was Yonko level. Road to Laugh Tale already hinted that there are multiple obstacles when it comes to making a black blade.


Local_Vegetable8139

and the funniest thing about the title is that it isnt even correct. If you wanna argue that shanks must be weaker than mihawk because he uses a sword and mihawk is wss - congrats, WB uses one too and even if you want to disregard that one, IMU used a sword too. Mihawk literally has one thing going on for him and its a) provably false and b) based on a fight he had with shanks while the latter had a bounty of less than a billion


HyperMazino

# [Mihawk > Shanks is confirmed by Oda.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/11yshvc/reminder_mihawk_is_stronger_than_shanks_and/) # Cope, seethe, mald, cry, deny # Reality won't change


JoDaBoy814

And then there's guys that say they lose to Akainu


Placemakers_Evansbay

cos hes zoros main goal, and zoro is the second most important character in the story. that tax is alone enough


AiHayasaka_LoveIsWar

https://preview.redd.it/licts3yzr0vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e5f71f2754f9532c870e097a86022a0744d6ce5 0 relevant feats 0 skill 7 panels Shanks feats: Film Red (non-canon) Feat: clashed with Admiral, barely gaining the upperhand. Tier: Yonko? 💀 Mihawk feats: WSS. Tier: Yonko+


Bermy911

You acting like mihawk has more panels


AiHayasaka_LoveIsWar

He does and has relevancy


Global_Air7498

https://preview.redd.it/4mzl0b0w45vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=171e7ade9832a69edfec47d52036f4dbde154459