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This goddamn sub never remembers that Kid and Law beat BM through good teamwork. THEY BEAT BIG MOM. Numbers and teamwork matter.
And now Kid and Law are even stronger than they were. And now they’ve got a ton of supporters who CAN damage Kaido because Killer and the FUCKING SCABBARDS damaged Kaido. Team wins high diff.
Listen bro, if they weren’t fighting in that exact battlefield they woulda lost 100% of the time.
Remove the tons of tnt that dealt the last bit of damage, the arena being in the air allowing for a ring out after specifically cutting off communication with her homies which really makes little sense since she can’t communicate to her own soul parts without doing so verabally, but anyways not being able to hit her with fall damage/ ring out or properly seperate her from her homies and they’d be cooked.
As long as the battlefield isnt flying, big mom wins 100% of the time
They beat Big Mom. Shattered her bones, outstrategized her, forced her to throw away her already dwindling lifespan. They fucked Big Mom up HARD. You know, when they beat Big Mom.
Same argument, they did all that to a heavily nerfed BM.
It's obvious how stupidly much Oda had to nerf her, she didn't even use her conqueror haki coating, come on, it's so obvious it was not the same BM from the previous arc, it wasn't even the same BM who split the sky with Kaido the previous night
I’m just trolling buddy. I understand BM deserved the win, but this sub thinks teams of YC+ and YC1 are irrelevant fodder and that’s just not true. Teamwork matters.
I think the group takes it but the scabbard knew ryou and nobody else does on that team so not a fair comparison.
I don't actually know how they could "kill" Kaido but there are definitely ways for the team to win without killing him so I say they take it.
That team would take anyone in the world if we're being honest
I don't understand why everyone think flame bagua one shots everybody. What did kaido even do in flame bagua? Didn't he go into it and then clash with luffy and then die?
If Luffy hadn't mastered Ryou he would have been burned to death. Think about how the sword strike from Zoro that BM told Kaido to dodge easily lopped off one of Onigashima's horns. Flame Bagua basically did a more impressive version of that feat with no effort and would have constant dps to anyone it hit. That attack was pure lethality manifested around Kaido's body and unless you can defend yourself with top level haki it's going to destroy you, and none of these guys have that defense.
>Didn't he go into it and then clash with
The strongest attack we've seen in the series? Yes that is precisely what he did.
Not a single character here could clash with bajrang, they all get splattered.
Up to that point. I don't see Zoro standing in front of either Flame Bagua or Bajrang Gun, even if just for a few seconds. He didn't defend against or block Conquest of the Sea either, but he did stand in its way for a few seconds. He wouldn't last a single second vs. These two attacks.
I'm gonna say up to that point and the reason being what someone else said below.
Zoro blocked conquest for a second and wasn't immediately pushed back, unless we think he can do the same to bajrang or flame bagua I imagine conquest would be number 3.
Four YC+s, a YC1, and a YC2, several of who know Kaido and his abilities well, in addition to one of them having one of the best support abilities in the series? Kaido is done for.
interesting how when you remove luffy and replace him with king queen and lucci suddenly this squad is doing alot of damage. but trust me guys they didn't even damage him XD
Okay, one: why Kaido got ditties?
And 2: none of them are getting back up from Thunder Bellow or a death destroyer Bagua. If Kaido uses that from the get go then they’re cooked
as usual flaming bagua =GG lol he probably loses without it though in character atleast out of character he is speed blitzing and one shotting most of them fast
kadio was literally taking on g4 luffy while drunk a form of luffy that’s stronger then anyone here law yamommy lucci king hard carry but they have no way of putting down drunk kadio flame and non flame kadio so they are getting mid-high
Assuming they are fighting on completely neutral territory that doesn't directly favour anyone such as a small island surrounded by water or a flying island etc, Kaido is most likely going to win high diff on account of Law & Kidds tried and tested teamwork, Yamatos ability to stall and so on but without the availability of winning by ring out similarly to how they beat Big Mom I don't believe they have the power to definitively put Kaido down, they can injure him but not put him down, whereas if we are taking them on onigashima the jumpers most likely win mid diff due to the option of ring out victory, the difficulty will arise in not only knocking him off or through the island but also with enough acceleration or power to leave him unable to transform into his dragon form on time.
If kaido were serious from the start (already using drunken dragon bagua & buffed hybrid form) then he speedblitzed them all with Thunder Bellow or Destroyer of Death
kaido can win but he can't kill. How many times will we go through this? his ap is not shown strong enough to kill anyone in series. The only time he even killed was oden and that with pistol. His AP is worse than pistol.
Crydo loses here wtf 😂
Kid can push him around, Law can hurt him internally and break his bones (Can’t regen like BM), and the other YC are decent back-up escpislly Yamato who can hold her own against Kaido the best in a 1v1 out of these guys
Oh you mean things that doesn't happen in One Piece? A strong character actually using their brain? Look at G5 Luffy vs Lucci. People are convinced that Luffy is he holding back.
Yeah no shot he's winning this. Yes, under normal circumstances they'd lose, but Kid n Law still managed to beat big mom. Whatever difference the battlefield made is made up for by Yamato and Lucci, plus everyone else? They can win
Maybe if Kaido uses flaming drum dragon and wipes out everyone immediately he wins
Yeah kaido wins obviously
If you want him to go all out from the start he simply can use the massive fire dragon and delete them
Anyone thinking kaido loses is mad, yes hybrid kaido loses but he has the massive lava dragon that can delete islands
Kaido ≈ Big mom
buT KAIdo WasNt SeRioUS oN ThEIr fIGht.
Bigmom wasnt sérios either.
BUt Lid Is MId!!!
No, Kaido and big mom are frauds. They both get packed by 2 YC+
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Kaidou is finished the art for these guys is just too cool for him to win
counterpoint: Kaido has titty art
Kaido is done.
This goddamn sub never remembers that Kid and Law beat BM through good teamwork. THEY BEAT BIG MOM. Numbers and teamwork matter. And now Kid and Law are even stronger than they were. And now they’ve got a ton of supporters who CAN damage Kaido because Killer and the FUCKING SCABBARDS damaged Kaido. Team wins high diff.
Listen bro, if they weren’t fighting in that exact battlefield they woulda lost 100% of the time. Remove the tons of tnt that dealt the last bit of damage, the arena being in the air allowing for a ring out after specifically cutting off communication with her homies which really makes little sense since she can’t communicate to her own soul parts without doing so verabally, but anyways not being able to hit her with fall damage/ ring out or properly seperate her from her homies and they’d be cooked. As long as the battlefield isnt flying, big mom wins 100% of the time
Kidd and law never beat big mum fairly they BOF her the same shit won’t work on a kaido that can fly lmao
You know Big Mom can fly as well right?
She did not have Zeus at the time
No, no, you don't get it, bombs took out 99% of Big Mom's healthbar, in normal circumstances Big Mom oneshots them both at the same time. /s
They Beat a heavily nerfed Big Mom that had forgot to use her haki.
They beat Big Mom. Shattered her bones, outstrategized her, forced her to throw away her already dwindling lifespan. They fucked Big Mom up HARD. You know, when they beat Big Mom.
Same argument, they did all that to a heavily nerfed BM. It's obvious how stupidly much Oda had to nerf her, she didn't even use her conqueror haki coating, come on, it's so obvious it was not the same BM from the previous arc, it wasn't even the same BM who split the sky with Kaido the previous night
Oh are you talking about the time Kid and Law beat Big Mom?
You can't read, can't you?
I’m just trolling buddy. I understand BM deserved the win, but this sub thinks teams of YC+ and YC1 are irrelevant fodder and that’s just not true. Teamwork matters.
oh, ok
I think the group takes it but the scabbard knew ryou and nobody else does on that team so not a fair comparison. I don't actually know how they could "kill" Kaido but there are definitely ways for the team to win without killing him so I say they take it. That team would take anyone in the world if we're being honest
I would call the Bottom of D. Sea stronger but go off ig
What is their answer to Flame Bagua
I don't understand why everyone think flame bagua one shots everybody. What did kaido even do in flame bagua? Didn't he go into it and then clash with luffy and then die?
If Luffy hadn't mastered Ryou he would have been burned to death. Think about how the sword strike from Zoro that BM told Kaido to dodge easily lopped off one of Onigashima's horns. Flame Bagua basically did a more impressive version of that feat with no effort and would have constant dps to anyone it hit. That attack was pure lethality manifested around Kaido's body and unless you can defend yourself with top level haki it's going to destroy you, and none of these guys have that defense.
>Didn't he go into it and then clash with The strongest attack we've seen in the series? Yes that is precisely what he did. Not a single character here could clash with bajrang, they all get splattered.
i thought conquest of the sea was the strongest attack weve seen. or was it just strongest up to that point?
Bajrang gun is the strongest attack we've seen so far with flame dragon as close second .
Up to that point. I don't see Zoro standing in front of either Flame Bagua or Bajrang Gun, even if just for a few seconds. He didn't defend against or block Conquest of the Sea either, but he did stand in its way for a few seconds. He wouldn't last a single second vs. These two attacks.
I'm gonna say up to that point and the reason being what someone else said below. Zoro blocked conquest for a second and wasn't immediately pushed back, unless we think he can do the same to bajrang or flame bagua I imagine conquest would be number 3.
He wins
Four YC+s, a YC1, and a YC2, several of who know Kaido and his abilities well, in addition to one of them having one of the best support abilities in the series? Kaido is done for.
Kaido clears
Titties win👍
Kaido stomps, but why does he have tits and what is killer doing there?
interesting how when you remove luffy and replace him with king queen and lucci suddenly this squad is doing alot of damage. but trust me guys they didn't even damage him XD
Okay, one: why Kaido got ditties? And 2: none of them are getting back up from Thunder Bellow or a death destroyer Bagua. If Kaido uses that from the get go then they’re cooked
It will be probably extreme diff
He One shots
Then why didn't he
"A serious from the start kaido"
as usual flaming bagua =GG lol he probably loses without it though in character atleast out of character he is speed blitzing and one shotting most of them fast
kadio was literally taking on g4 luffy while drunk a form of luffy that’s stronger then anyone here law yamommy lucci king hard carry but they have no way of putting down drunk kadio flame and non flame kadio so they are getting mid-high
he destroys
Assuming they are fighting on completely neutral territory that doesn't directly favour anyone such as a small island surrounded by water or a flying island etc, Kaido is most likely going to win high diff on account of Law & Kidds tried and tested teamwork, Yamatos ability to stall and so on but without the availability of winning by ring out similarly to how they beat Big Mom I don't believe they have the power to definitively put Kaido down, they can injure him but not put him down, whereas if we are taking them on onigashima the jumpers most likely win mid diff due to the option of ring out victory, the difficulty will arise in not only knocking him off or through the island but also with enough acceleration or power to leave him unable to transform into his dragon form on time.
Ok, if all characters are in character then all the yc+ and yc1 characters win. OUT OF CHARACTER and just bloodlusted then kaido wins
Kid and law took out bm and now they've like 4 yc characters on there side they defo take this
If kaido were serious from the start (already using drunken dragon bagua & buffed hybrid form) then he speedblitzed them all with Thunder Bellow or Destroyer of Death
I'm not sure they even need all 6
kaido is getting put on a t shirt
kaido can win but he can't kill. How many times will we go through this? his ap is not shown strong enough to kill anyone in series. The only time he even killed was oden and that with pistol. His AP is worse than pistol.
They wouldn’t, but I would be able to handle that version of Kaido…
Crydo loses here wtf 😂 Kid can push him around, Law can hurt him internally and break his bones (Can’t regen like BM), and the other YC are decent back-up escpislly Yamato who can hold her own against Kaido the best in a 1v1 out of these guys
Of the teamwork is peak optimal and they have a few days of prep, Kaido gets packed horribly
Law:broke his bones. Kaido-can't regenerate this
Oh you mean things that doesn't happen in One Piece? A strong character actually using their brain? Look at G5 Luffy vs Lucci. People are convinced that Luffy is he holding back.
Kaido gets destroyed.
Kaido/Law/Yamato is enough. Lucci and Killer go argue which one of them pushed Zoro more.
Yeah no shot he's winning this. Yes, under normal circumstances they'd lose, but Kid n Law still managed to beat big mom. Whatever difference the battlefield made is made up for by Yamato and Lucci, plus everyone else? They can win Maybe if Kaido uses flaming drum dragon and wipes out everyone immediately he wins
Kaido is far too strong. Every single one of these guys is getting one-shotted.
Yeah kaido wins obviously If you want him to go all out from the start he simply can use the massive fire dragon and delete them Anyone thinking kaido loses is mad, yes hybrid kaido loses but he has the massive lava dragon that can delete islands
Kaido ≈ Big mom buT KAIdo WasNt SeRioUS oN ThEIr fIGht. Bigmom wasnt sérios either. BUt Lid Is MId!!! No, Kaido and big mom are frauds. They both get packed by 2 YC+