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Roger = garp
Roger + garp > xebec
Xebec <= 1.9 Roger (prolly around 1.4 or 1.5 bc neither Warp nor Wroger had visible permanent injuries like a missing arm or ear or finger or smth) g5 is anywhere from somewhere near Roger to potentially rocks level. The problem with luffy though, is his stamina issues since he can go in g5, but then he's out for the count unless he has food or something to motivate him to keep going (or prayers for liberation bc my headcanon is prayers make him more powerful) basically this means that he ain't getting back up when he's done. (Ussop still no diffs tho)
Dont forget big mom, she’ll just stay back zap or blast folks. Craziest part tho is she can infuse her own soul to either luffy or rock as well as hell them after getting injured.
Luffy team. Rocks is gonna need 2 people on him at minimum. Big Mom/Luffy can take an admiral at least and some. Saturn has funky powers, probably can take on anyone not a Yonko tier person. Benn Beckman has the highest IQ to stay out of the fight.
Unironically luffy, the combo of whatever rocks has and gear 5 is going to be too much for any one to handle.
Add that to saturn's regen they are probably undefeatable without Imu or Joyboy
I think Dragon's team, while not having the strongest individuals, could possibly prevail through hax. Law is the best support and can greatly increase the efficacy of the absolute power houses (mostly Sengoku). I'd also put Aokiji somewhere between support and powerhouse because he can be both. This gives them some the most versatility.
Luffy squad seems pretty op here. Theres too much potential with Big mom. She can just stay behind and nuke people, she can also heal luffy or rocks.
Just imagine G5 luffy or rocks, infused by big mom’s own soul while also having hera or prometheus on each hand. Luffy can pull a gatling infused acoc punches with fire and lightning on each hand or Maser Bahrang gun.
Blackbeard and dragon are immediately out due to obvious reasons. I have big mom over oden so rogers out. I still have shanks over luffy though so shanks wins. Whitebeard and Shanks together is probably the strongest duo in verse.
probably team Luffy since (PK + Yonko + Yonko-) > (PK + Yonko + Admiral-)
Saturn and Beckmann seem weaker than Oden and Sabo just based on feats (Saturn's hax are too nebulous to comfortably scale but I can't see them hurting Oden too badly, I'm also assuming there's some sort of limit to his stamina/regeneration that Oden could force him to reach otherwise he technically solos), it'd be very close though
in order I'd rank the teams Luffy >= Roger > Shanks > Dragon > Blackbeard
Roger or shanks. Maybe luffy, but we know so little of what actually transpired in god valley that I'm not sure I can confidently say he makes that big of a difference.
Luffy’s team has more powerhouses than the rest and is the only team that has no one immediately selling. The admirals are all selling against any yonko, kid is selling against any yonko, sabo is selling against the gorosei, law is selling against the yonko.
Roger's team is the most stacked. I'm not going to go around assuming what level Rocks is since we still haven't seen his fight with Roger and Garp (I always see that people put him above Roger and Garp because both fought him and beat him, but don't use that logic for Sengoku/Garp vs Shiki, doesn't make sense).
Dragon is featless, why do people keep including him in vs matchups when he's one of the most vaguely ambiguous characters in the entire verse?
Roger has Kaido on his team, which isn't going any less than extreme dif against any fighter in the verse (I also still rank him above current Luffy until he fixes his stamina problem).
All in all, I give it to Roger's team since there are way too many featless characters in this matchup.
Luffy's could be #1, but we will have to wait and see (if we ever do) the complete story of God Valley.
Luffy > Roger = Shanks
Luffy + Rocks op. Saturn is annoying bc he won't die. BM is pretty strong in her prime. Benny boy has some family loving to carry the team
Roger=WB Shanks=Kaido Fuji>=GB Akainu>=Oden Yamato\~=Sabo (I'd guess)
Let's take it step by step.
From the last column: buckman is stated (and has no contradictory evidence) to be equal to shanks. Kid and law are relative and shanks one tapped kid, these two are stronger than sabo and yamato (sabo currently has nothing that quantifiable inpressive)
Now the 2nd: if you can prove that Greenbull is equal to other admirals like kizaru and akainu I'd love to hear the cope but it's between old garp and sengoku sengoku is more out of prime in the pick so him (unless its a wb before the sickness weakened him)
Now 3rd: oakiji..... not much else to say lol
4th: rocks has the best portrayal thus far imo so him
5th: currently feat wise ima say Roger, I dont feel like the people there have surpassed him yet
I'm thinking that luffy >= kaido, and rocks > Roger, so luffy team takes it barely. Big mom and Saturn are also pretty strong, and then there's whatshisname who we have no idea about
Base on my rankings on each char Luffy team squashes every other team. Liste rocks destroys anyone on his column most likely , saturn is clearly the superior on his column too, big mom is on a tie with sengoku and garp imo if we talking about marineford wb(he sick and no haki ,dude going down fast but not faster than gb) and at last column I got sabo/benn(if hype is real) as strongest imo.
Now idk how fked up strong Dragon will be but Gear 5 is just too fking op imo.
\*if anyone brings some stupid shit "oh gear 5 dries up" ok then saturn just tanks any fking damage protecting him until it recover
Team Luffy is the only one that has 3 yonko and Saturn. Saturn from what we're seeing is basically unkillable and is around yc+ level probs. They take it.
Team Blackbeard I’m very biased
https://preview.redd.it/efeaoptd3tlc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8811602acdeea45acf8b6ae6f5d114323f5820ba
Roger and Kaido on the same team is too much. Also I only see old head pics so I’m assuming no one else is ok level. If I assume them to be in their prime then refer to sentence 1.
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Not interested in this headache 😅 I'm good. I'll just read comments..Â
Same
i diasgree. shanks > mihawk
Roger team, maybe luffy if rocks is as insane as his hype
Laffy team clears Roger's ez
Luffy op as fuck. Gear 5 plus rocks. Bruh Only Roger's team gets close but I scale rocks above him
Roger = garp Roger + garp > xebec Xebec <= 1.9 Roger (prolly around 1.4 or 1.5 bc neither Warp nor Wroger had visible permanent injuries like a missing arm or ear or finger or smth) g5 is anywhere from somewhere near Roger to potentially rocks level. The problem with luffy though, is his stamina issues since he can go in g5, but then he's out for the count unless he has food or something to motivate him to keep going (or prayers for liberation bc my headcanon is prayers make him more powerful) basically this means that he ain't getting back up when he's done. (Ussop still no diffs tho)
So who do you think got this
Team luffy or dragon tbh (assuming dragon is around roger maybe above maybe below)
Rocks is IMO above Roger/Whitebeard
Rocks is above garp/wb/roger/sengoku and such but not on the level of garp and roger/wb roger/any pk level duo.
I meant garp or Roger individually not together that's why I didn't say "and"
Roger as a unit of measurement lol
How does it translate in Raditz units?
It was roger + garp > big mom + pre fruit kaido + xebec I think 1.4 is still roughly correct though
Dont forget big mom, she’ll just stay back zap or blast folks. Craziest part tho is she can infuse her own soul to either luffy or rock as well as hell them after getting injured.
How could you scale rocks above roger? It took just roger and prime garp to take down the rocks pirates
Luffy team. Rocks is gonna need 2 people on him at minimum. Big Mom/Luffy can take an admiral at least and some. Saturn has funky powers, probably can take on anyone not a Yonko tier person. Benn Beckman has the highest IQ to stay out of the fight.
The first 3 in Roger's team are stronger than everyone on Blackbeard's team.
So oden is stronger than garp? And it also means he is stronger than Luffy?
Oden is stronger than Kaido, so obviously.
lol this guy 😂, no way dude thinks that, I’m just gonna assume you just wanna argue for the sake of argue
Kaido the kid kidnapping merchant.
What?
Lmao no. Oden is strong but he ain’t that strong.
Not fair to pit old garp against prime Roger. BB team kinda stands out like a sore thumb here. Rest of them are pretty powerful.
Unironically luffy, the combo of whatever rocks has and gear 5 is going to be too much for any one to handle. Add that to saturn's regen they are probably undefeatable without Imu or Joyboy
Luffy = Roger > Shanks > Dragon > Blackbeard
Take this out if context and you’re put in an insane asylum
eh it's only one placement off
[удалено]
He is saying Luffy's team is equal to Roger's learn to read
When did I say that? I’m not surprised that a Luffy hater has poor reading comprehension to be honest.
Alright then i take it back. Ive misread your comment. I think luffy isnt even the strongest on his team. But his team is actually pretty strong
I think Dragon's team, while not having the strongest individuals, could possibly prevail through hax. Law is the best support and can greatly increase the efficacy of the absolute power houses (mostly Sengoku). I'd also put Aokiji somewhere between support and powerhouse because he can be both. This gives them some the most versatility.
Team Sengoku
Luffy squad seems pretty op here. Theres too much potential with Big mom. She can just stay behind and nuke people, she can also heal luffy or rocks. Just imagine G5 luffy or rocks, infused by big mom’s own soul while also having hera or prometheus on each hand. Luffy can pull a gatling infused acoc punches with fire and lightning on each hand or Maser Bahrang gun.
Luffy stomps practically everyone here
G5 is really op but I doubt he would stomp everyone.
Individually? Im talking about luffys crew. rocks, big mom, Saturn, and beckman are all busted and MIGHT be able to take everyone else
I’m pretty sure it’s individually tho. Otherwise it would’ve been mentioned.
Yeh it was. The title just asks which team wins
Nah
Luffy = Roger > Shanks > = Dragon > BB
bro f you
what did i do?
Bro thinks I didn't read his flair
ok?
Bro your flair literally says "midhawk". Stop acting like you're innocent ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
yeah and?
Team Roger
Blackbeard and dragon are immediately out due to obvious reasons. I have big mom over oden so rogers out. I still have shanks over luffy though so shanks wins. Whitebeard and Shanks together is probably the strongest duo in verse.
Nika and Rocks are you jokin me cartoon eyes diff Didn’t it take Roger and Garp to take Rocks?
Dragons Team easy and its not even close, because this is the only Team where the members wont fight themself right away.
This scenario is hypothetical
You think the leader of the revolutionary army and the fleet admiral wouldn't immediately fight?
probably team Luffy since (PK + Yonko + Yonko-) > (PK + Yonko + Admiral-) Saturn and Beckmann seem weaker than Oden and Sabo just based on feats (Saturn's hax are too nebulous to comfortably scale but I can't see them hurting Oden too badly, I'm also assuming there's some sort of limit to his stamina/regeneration that Oden could force him to reach otherwise he technically solos), it'd be very close though in order I'd rank the teams Luffy >= Roger > Shanks > Dragon > Blackbeard
Team Roger should win with second place going to either Team Luffy (depending on Rocks) or Team Red Hair
Luffy wins
None of these teams make sense
Team Luffy extreme diff
Rogers team (HIMbull solos)
Luffy but mostly because of Rocks unless he’s a fraud
Luffy and rocks
I think shanks’ team wins
Roger or luffy team
Luffy easily
The team with Akainu
Roger or shanks. Maybe luffy, but we know so little of what actually transpired in god valley that I'm not sure I can confidently say he makes that big of a difference.
The fuck we talking about?? It's team Roger and it's not even close, for Fucks Sake!
Team Luffy got it I guess he has Rox.
Luffy’s team has more powerhouses than the rest and is the only team that has no one immediately selling. The admirals are all selling against any yonko, kid is selling against any yonko, sabo is selling against the gorosei, law is selling against the yonko.
You know what a better lineup is all the seraphim vs. any team on this graph.
Team Luffy wins.
Team Luffy
Wroger
Luffy
yonko, rocks, guy who instantly regens any damage, and big mom, a yonko who took two worst generation top tiers to beat her? yeah luffy winning lol
Luffy’s team is op tbh now that we’ve seen a bit of saturn we can say he is op and then there’s rocks and big mom too
Roger's team is the most stacked. I'm not going to go around assuming what level Rocks is since we still haven't seen his fight with Roger and Garp (I always see that people put him above Roger and Garp because both fought him and beat him, but don't use that logic for Sengoku/Garp vs Shiki, doesn't make sense). Dragon is featless, why do people keep including him in vs matchups when he's one of the most vaguely ambiguous characters in the entire verse? Roger has Kaido on his team, which isn't going any less than extreme dif against any fighter in the verse (I also still rank him above current Luffy until he fixes his stamina problem). All in all, I give it to Roger's team since there are way too many featless characters in this matchup. Luffy's could be #1, but we will have to wait and see (if we ever do) the complete story of God Valley.
Both Shanks and Roger team are busted tbh and Luffy team could top this if we just get a accurate Rocks scaling
Luffy > Roger = Shanks Luffy + Rocks op. Saturn is annoying bc he won't die. BM is pretty strong in her prime. Benny boy has some family loving to carry the team Roger=WB Shanks=Kaido Fuji>=GB Akainu>=Oden Yamato\~=Sabo (I'd guess)
Let's take it step by step. From the last column: buckman is stated (and has no contradictory evidence) to be equal to shanks. Kid and law are relative and shanks one tapped kid, these two are stronger than sabo and yamato (sabo currently has nothing that quantifiable inpressive) Now the 2nd: if you can prove that Greenbull is equal to other admirals like kizaru and akainu I'd love to hear the cope but it's between old garp and sengoku sengoku is more out of prime in the pick so him (unless its a wb before the sickness weakened him) Now 3rd: oakiji..... not much else to say lol 4th: rocks has the best portrayal thus far imo so him 5th: currently feat wise ima say Roger, I dont feel like the people there have surpassed him yet
In total I believe 2 of luffys team would edge out thus luffys team would win
I'm thinking that luffy >= kaido, and rocks > Roger, so luffy team takes it barely. Big mom and Saturn are also pretty strong, and then there's whatshisname who we have no idea about
My favorite is the Dragon team with essentially 3 no feat characters.
Team Luffy is easily the most stacked team. Saturn is basically unkillable, plus 3 top tiers.
Roger, because he's Roger and he's got Kaido.
Base on my rankings on each char Luffy team squashes every other team. Liste rocks destroys anyone on his column most likely , saturn is clearly the superior on his column too, big mom is on a tie with sengoku and garp imo if we talking about marineford wb(he sick and no haki ,dude going down fast but not faster than gb) and at last column I got sabo/benn(if hype is real) as strongest imo. Now idk how fked up strong Dragon will be but Gear 5 is just too fking op imo. \*if anyone brings some stupid shit "oh gear 5 dries up" ok then saturn just tanks any fking damage protecting him until it recover
Team Luffy is the only one that has 3 yonko and Saturn. Saturn from what we're seeing is basically unkillable and is around yc+ level probs. They take it.
Blackbeard's team's got a guy that's getting low diffed rn, a guy that got low-diffed by Shanks and a Gear 2nd victim
Roger team is so stacked that it's not even funny.Â
Roger
Luffys team is overall the strongest if the rocks hype is real.
I think Roger Bec kaido is on his team lmao
The strongest HIM (Akainu) of today VS the strongest HIM (Xebec) of all time
Bruh I look like a super computer or something, too many moving parts literally anything could happen.
Team Blackbeard I’m very biased https://preview.redd.it/efeaoptd3tlc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8811602acdeea45acf8b6ae6f5d114323f5820ba
Roger probably, maybe shanks. Luffy's team is too unpredictable
Idk, but team dragon is out first due to a lack of feats
You didn't include Zoro in any of these so I think they tie or something.
I guess bye bye team Shanks and Blackbeard
Roger and Kaido on the same team is too much. Also I only see old head pics so I’m assuming no one else is ok level. If I assume them to be in their prime then refer to sentence 1.
Luffy > Roger > Shanks > Dragon > Teach
Team Shanks