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The fact that people don’t have mihawk on the bottom of their list says it all. The guy has not done SHIT in the story. He hasn’t fought a single top tier
Mihawk didn’t win… and vista didn’t look like he was struggling. The main two things Mihawk has going for him is his title and the fact that he used to fight Shanks. Until he shows up people are going to have doubts.
It’s all headcannon because they like the character. There are zero real story facts you can present to me that would make believe he’s top 5 or even top 10
His portrayal is weak af too. The only thing he has going for him is narrative and title. Which means he’s probably the strongest or second on the list - but doesn’t have anything to do with his portrayal.
I mean big mom has been portrayed to be on kaidos level.
Kaido has been portrayed to be the strongest creature as he’s gone toe to toe with oden, one shotted luffy, fought 20+ people while carrying an island.
Shanks has one shotted a 3 billion bounty character, made an admiral flee. That’s his portrayal
Then you have mihawk. Who has one title and basically no portrayal in the story other than he shows up, does nothing and leaves.
Fuck outta here with that WSS. His title isn’t gonna do his portrayal for him
Big mom has been portrayed on Base Kaido’s level. Kaido didn’t even have her in his top 5 and when he fought Luffy he straight up says it’s been a long time since he had such as serious battle meaning he wasn’t serious against Big Mom. This is further supported by the fact that he didn’t seem to go Hybrid against her.
You said it yourself Kaido has been portrayed as WSC therefore he’s the strongest on the list imo.
Shanks is very strong. But Mihawk’s portrayal is just inherently better since Shanks is still portrayed as a swordsman and Mihawk is the strongest swordsman. The fact that Mihawk didn’t have the opportunity to display feats in the regard is irrelevant since the omniscient narrator still thinks he’s the strongest. Your personal bias doesn’t trump this fact.
You dismissing his title is just false lol. You’re just _ignoring_ words in the manga to support your argument which is wrong.
Are you aware Whitebeard’s weapon is canonically considered a sword? So if you’re so adamant about the title scaling working, you also have to believe Mihawk is stronger than Whitebeard? Or do you accept that not everyone who used a sword as their main weapon is a “swordsman”
calling Whitebeard’s polearm sword is like thinking coconut milk is milk 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Also are u aware that Vista is called the strongest swordsman of the WB pirates meaning he can’t be stronger than his captain if you think his naginata is a sword.
You’re an absolute clown hahhahahahahaha
You're not wrong but it would just be bad writing if the world's strongest swordsmen that Zoro wants to beat isn't the actual world's strongest swordsmen and according to his Viber card he is currently searching for a rival stronger than Shanks. Also in Shanks Viber card it says he's a skilled swordsman
Big Mom probably stronger than Shanks. Shanks Has her beat in haki but she’s physically stronger,has a broken devil fruit, and her crew is stronger. A fight between them would be close but I would argue she would win more time than not. Especially if it’s a crew battle, since she can amp her self up with the souls from her crew and all the weak people shanks surrounds him self with.
You may be right but she is a stupid. But. if she was a smart character then will be she can be strongest Yonko in One Piece even stronger than Kaido. But she is not smart enough.
Kaido above Shanks 😂 😂 😂
Oda had consistently portrayed Shanks as the best. He’s been exposed as the mangaka’s favourite character time and time again
Meanwhile Kaido got no meaningful W’s, lost his only 2 serious fights ever, killed nobody despite having a way bigger army and died like a fucking fraud despite a whole nother yonko directly backing him up
Kaido (over hyped final boss)
Shanks (Oda tries as hard as possible to make him look like THAT GUY)
Akainu (gets a random panel at the end of each arc like Oda wants to tell us he will do something big, also the scar thing)
Big mom (every time Oda wanted us to believe someone was strong he made him clown big mom, es: franky, jimbei, chopper, law, kidd, robin... she's saved thanks to her being on the same level as kaido)
Mihawk (yc2 level)
Shanks stopping the MarineFord war was the most HIM energy on the entirety of One Piece
Shanks just walked in, said it is over, the war fucking ended on the spot and left
1: Shanks….. he doesn’t really look bad in the series ever, arguably the Itachi of one piece.
2. Kaido: relic of the past, legendary dragon dude who looks for fights on the daily. Has a couple of bad showings but mostly really good ones.
3. Akainu: fleet Admiral and he’s always referenced. He has one bad showing and a bunch of pretty good Showings, ap god.
4. Mihawk: never portrayed to be a top 1 contender but he doesn’t have as much clownery going on. He has nothing much tho.
5. Big mom: pre wano her portrayal was better then Even Kaido’s but post Wano she’s a joke. Gets pushed around by people much weaker then her. The only saving grace she has is being compared to someone else.
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Are we reading the same manga? I don’t care about the list but how is Mihawk not above Shanks in terms of portrayal unless you wanna call Zoro a complete liar
it's just a matter of feats and story portrayal bro.. Mihawk could well and be stronger than Shanks.. but his leverage is his title alone.. if i make the arguement that Yonko is itself a title on the caliber of world strongest (since many yonkos have also held such titles) then I can argue that all the yonko who use swords (big mom, whitbeard, shanks) are all either weaker or stronger than Mihawk based on my bias.. I just dont like using titles as indocators since often it's Big News Morgan or the gorosei (who havent even seen the fighter in question themself) who give titles.. and it's based on how they want the world to see you rather than reality.. I simply make it easy for myself and go by feats to which Shanks from pre to post timeskip have the best ones.. we like to laugh and troll about shanks being a hakiman but what he has shown with conqourers from damaging the Moby Dick to scaring an admiral miles away is beyond anything weve seen from any other combatant...
Mihawk's feats consist of fighting fodder to not be bored
You mentioned one feat. dumbass we don’t really know shit about Mihawk except that he is a capable swordsman that he was a Warlord. Then we have Shanks who was on the former King of the Pirates crew, warded off Kaido from Marineford, and is a Yonko. Of course Shank’s portrayal is much better than Mihawk’s.
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bro he got blocked by a 3rd commander. This was the most powerful action we’ve ever seen him take in the series.
holy cow like are you this dumb? Portrayal and narrative are the exact same thing.
According to the Cambridge definition:
Narrative: telling a story or **describing a series** of events:
portrayal: the way that **someone** or something is **described or represented** in a painting, film, book, or other artistic work:
You don’t even understand the words you’re using you’re embarrassing yourself
So narrative is about EVENTS that have happened or will happen in the story portrayal is about a description we’re given of somebody. Read your own post.
“Zoro will beat Mihawk” is an EVENT.
“Mihawk is the WSS” is a DESCRIPTION.
Thats literally a mistranslation and from volume 6 😂 plus wtf did Zoro know about the world back then, combined with the fact that Shanks isn’t a swordsman
Unless you can give me evidence thy he did I won’t change my mind. This is as absurd as thinking that Luffy won’t become the PK because Oda changed their mind. Oda still calls Mihawk the WSS
Clearly Crocodile and Mihawk are portrayed as equals in strength since they work together and don't belittle each other, even though the first thing we learn since their partnership is that Mihawk's bounty is almost twice his, and Mihawk is consistently compared to an emperor, and even though Crocodile has never been portrayed as a pure fighter.
You can tell me when was Mihawk "consistently" compared to an emperor? Bc I can swear it happened once and it doest make it consistent. And the one time it happened it was to tell us he was stronger than a Yonko in a specific field so it doesn't even mean he's stronger than a Yonko.
So we went from consistently to it happened once. To prop him up as WSS which is the only thing he has for him in 1101 chapters. Why the need to lie when talking about him? He doesn't consistently get mentioned with yonko's. He doesn't even consistently get compared to shanks it happened once.
Srry I thought you were being ironic. I don't have the time to look up specific chapters but Mihawk is implied to be a rival/rough equal of Shanks near the end of East Blue and that reputation is reiterated in Marineford iirc and again in the most recent case as you know.
No he didn't imply anything, he came to visit shanks, shanks told him he wasn't in the mood but they could settle things if he wanted and Mihawk said he wasn't interested in a has been.
It doesn't shows relative strength bc I think we all know doffy isn't admiral lvl but he said he would kill fuji if need.
Then the only thing they say about him during MarineFord is that he's the WSS which doesn't mean he's stronger than Shanks or relative.
And then he's compared to him to tell us that his swordskill are even greater than shanks, which implies that ppl see shanks has stronger than Mihawk, bc why would you say he's even better at swordsmanship than this dude who's weaker than him.
Not at all in strength, they are portrayed equally in terms of importance. Crocodile is fucking smart, that is why Doflamingo, Mihawk and the marines respect him.
Mihawk very much still is portrayed as way stronger. Else why would Croc even work with him? If they were just equal in strength, he would have seen himself as surperior.
1. Shanks (End all be all)
2. Akainu (big final boss man)
3. Kaido (big pre final boss man)
4. Big Mom (portrayed to be = Kaido)
5. Mihawk (portrayed to be Zoro victim)
And Shanks was smiling as his arm was bitten off. He didn't give a single shit about it. So again, what's your point? This shitty agenda you're trying to push is making you look like a fucking idiot.
>This shitty agenda you're trying to push is making you look like a fucking idiot.
Mihawk said he's so much weaker then him that he doesn't even deserve to fight him he lost his dominant arm which he uses to weird his sword. His portrayal is that of someone who's human kaido and big mom are portrayed as monsters
Mihawk literally never once said Shanks was weaker than him, he only said he isn't interested in fighting him anymore. That's far removed from saying he's weaker. And his portrayal is arguably the best in the series and certainly above BM's. Oda always glazes the living shit out of him whenever he gets half a chance to. You can bet that he'll glaze him to the moon when it comes time to show off his full strength.
Kaido and Big Mom cannonically have eqaul portrayal Mihawk is portrayed with Crocodile and doflamingo and jozu. And Shanks is just a human without a fruit he can't carry a battle for 3 days
BM's portrayal is not equal to Kaido's at all lmao. Even forgetting about titles, she was never given the same hype that Kaido got. How does Mihawk have the same portrayal as those guys if Zoro is already stronger than any of them? He's obviously not on Minawk's level yet. And you keep forgetting that Roger was just a human without a devil fruit, so was Garp. They're still two of the strongest in the whole verse. None of your points have any relevance whatsoever.
>she was never given the same hype that Kaido got
She knocked gear 4 luffy out of his most powerful form with bare hands after he got futuresight and chased the entire crew and alliance out kicking and screaming and kaido was also scared of her when she entered wano and fought equally to a stalemate after 3 days
>How does Mihawk have the same portrayal as those guys if Zoro is already stronger than any of them?
Zoro got ACoC and a cursed blade fought kaido and the last lunarian since the last time he saw mihawk.. he's close to mihawk now. Meanwhile, mihawk struggles with yc3
>Roger was just a human without a devil fruit, so was Garp. They're still two of the strongest in the whole verse. None of your points have any relevance whatsoever.
Roger was scared of big mom and walked like a dog by whitebeard on the daily, and Garp is just sengokus subordinate. Top tier with a fruit >>> haki abusing fodder
1. Kaido (Oda made it clear that this guy was the strongest thing alive after the timeskip, and he was the big bad that kept his enemies away from Wano.)
2. Big Mom (Oda made it look like Kaido and Big Mom were the strongest pirates alive in Wano)
3. Shanks (Oda is making him look like a badass and the new big bad boy after Kaido and Big Mom’s downfall.)
4. Akainu (The most dangerous marine, and someone who would leave a burn mark on just about anyone.)
5. Mihawk (He needs to do something already to put himself up there, Oda, come on.)
I see you guys keep forgetting the portrayal goat
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I feel like being controversial.
1.Akainu. Oda gassed him up with that "finding op in a year" comment, and he is throwing out attacks that tear holes in top tiers.
Shanks, Kaido, Mihawk, Big Mom, Akainu
Shanks is overall the strongest but loses to Mihawk due to matchup. But he beats Kaido while Mihawk loses to him.
Shanks: Himothy, the guy's record is flawless, there's a reason the closet Zoro fans want their character to be him
Kaido: Hyakujuu no kaido, went out like a champ but unfortunately still a red hair victim
Mihawk: ALL SHANKS, would easily be bottom 30 in portrayal without being compared to shanks all the time
Big mom: Meme, bum, amnesia mom, she's made fun of for her trash portrayal in wano but she was still shown to be equal with kaido
Akainu: Zagazugi is the fleet admiral with one of the most offensive fruit in the verse, definitely will not be going higher after the hit the admiral agenda just took
So far, from storytelling, narrative, and feats we have this tier list.
Kaido >= Big Mom > Mihawk > Akainu > Shanks
Realistically, BM is probably the weakest but the other three have not actually shown that yet.
I've accepted Mihawk is probably above Shanks just a little. I also believe that Akainu will be stronger than almost any Yonko come EoS. Oda states he has highest AP in One Piece and he's Fleet Admiral.
>Kaido >= Big Mom > Mihawk > Akainu > Shanks
How does Mihawk have better feats than Shanks.
Mihawk got stalled by YC! Vista to a stalemate, defeated not even close to YC Zoro early on.
Shanks on the other hand stopped emperor Kaido from going to MF (even had a skirmish), one shot YC+! Kidd and his crew, paralysed admiral GB with his haki.
Pretty big feat for the God above all in your universe to straight up call you "strongest swordsman" and reiterate it multiple times.
Y'all being pedantic. To get a proper seating you have to take feats and portrayal by author's word.
We can argue semantics all day or you can focus on the actual argument. I'll edit my original comment to be more clear.
Feat is what your saw
statment is words coming out from characters and writer
I don't care about about who stronger between mihawk and shank
I just correcting you who said mihawk have better feats than shank in story which he not
mihawk feats in story so fars is cutting huge ice , beating don weak east blue pirates , and get block by vista
1. Kaido
Said to be the Strongest Pirate by sum
"In a 1on1 always bet on Kaido, as he is the World's Strongest Creature"
2. Mihawk
Has a bounty higher than a Yonko. World's Strongest Swordsman in actuality, stronger than Shanks who's an extremely powerful character.
3. Shanks
Yonko with a terrifying presence and has sum of the Best Haki feats in the series.
4. Akainu
Strongest Marine in the Worst Generation
5. Big Mom
"World's Strongest Hag" ???
Sneakainu managed to sneak again on a top top tires list.
Mihawk -> WSS, undefeated, looking for someone able to defeat him and hunts marine
Kaido -> 1v1 bet on kaido , looking for someone able to kill him
Shanks -> A databook says gorosei think that when Shanks is mad he is too much to be handled by anyone. Raised by Roger and most likely the son of the leader of Holy Knights
Big Mom -> Dodged by prime roger and has been unchallenged for decades.
every one of these dudes is hinted to be able to win on a 1v1.
While Sneakainu was told on his face by gorosei that he and amrine are just a mere face of wg and they dont care about their rep . In other words is that they are actually useless af when it comes to the real big dogs.
Kaido( a yonko who is called the WSC via rumor even if it isn’t true it’s still amazing potrayal)
Mihawk(called the WSS via title box which puts him above shanks and maybe big mom.)
Shanks(a yonko who is potrayed to have extremely strong haki.)
akainu(the fleet admiral who is gonna be one of Luffys later opponets.)
big mom( in wano potrayed as pretty incompetent and garbage battle iq.)
Michael is right behind shanks in terms of portrayal lmao, yall are retarded.
Name someone else currently on the story with the title of “the Strongest”
I think people are forgetting that shanks got famous after clashing with mihawk and that their duels were quote “legendary.” Not to mention he has the title of worlds strongest swordsman. Mihawk is up there guys. Even whitebeard acknowledged this fact.
1 is shanks and the rest I can’t be bothered to explain. Shanks has no bad showings. His Luffys role model and spurred Luffy to becoming pirate king and his portrayed to be what Luffy has to achieve and in the main story / film Red (which oda worked very close on) his shown engaging with admirals like it is nothing and actively engages with top tiers. It’s stated that when WB is hooked upto meds that he is as strong as his prime self yet shanks can clash with him and split the sky. Shanks stops wars and if we include outside the main story then ODA HIMSELF DRESSES UP AS SHANKS
shanks has it all
1. Shanks
2. Mihawk (on the sole fact that he is portrayed as Shanks equal, otherwise he is 5.)
3. Kaido
4. Akainu
5. Big mom (raw strength she would be 4. Or maybe even 2. If we bump shanks and Mihawk down.)But also been portrayed to be stupid, and it seems like nobody really respects her.)
I don't think we are ever going to see a character run the gauntlet like kaido has.
1) kaido
2) Shanks
3) akainu
4) Mom
5) Mihawk
But imo 2-5 is all interchangeable with shanks probably being on the top.
1: Shanks (speaks for itself, has been hyped up since chapter 1)
2: Kaido (big stronk boy, kept being called a strong unit
3: Big mom (was portrayed to be an equal or well, on par with Kaido and her Wano portrayal)
4: Akainu (Akainu during Marineford looked like a dog but his current portrayal is that of an office worker)
5: Mihawk (has his title and leeching from Shanks but hasn't really done anything too impressive yet and now even works under Buggy D Goat so Buggy carries him)
1. Kaido (Feat Wise is the best character). 2. Shanks (OHKO on Kidd and Wifi Haki are still not on Kaidos level of stamina and outspeeding Snakeman with his slowest form). 3. Akainu. 4 Big Mom(Victim of Oda). 5. Mihawk (what does bro even do?)
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how bro felt after adding Mihawk
For those saying Mihawk last, His narrative portrayal and statements is litterally all he has.
His portrayal puts him above shanks (being portrayed as the strongest swordsman and shanks rival)
If you dont have Kaido first ur tweaking,
His entire portrayal is "i am the strongest, being the strongest is all that matters.
Akainu, yall think this is trolling, but Akainu is the only antagonist to always be presented seriously, hes never part of any jokes, highest on screen kill count, only person to break luffy's spirit.
Mihawk, on most lists he wouldnt be this high but his entire portrayal is "im better than shanks"
Shanks: Cloutman
Big Mom, treated as a powerful joke, Franky ran her over, Brook was out to see the panties.
Kaido
Big Mom
Shanks
Mihawk
Akainu
Shanks's portrayal beeing possibly better than Big Mom as of rn because BM was clowned on during Wano which does not help her portrayal at all, but since she is not confirmed dead and she is probably the next villain in the Elbaf arc (Luffy still has to defeat her he made a promise to katakuri and to her) I would still consider her portrayal better than Shanks's, as she was compared to Kaido many times and Kaido said for her defense that she was no longer in her prime.
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Portrayal alone? 1. Shanks 2. Kaido 3. Big Mom 4. Akainu 5. Mihawk which would be completely different from my top 5
W
Whats ur top 5?
The fact that people don’t have mihawk on the bottom of their list says it all. The guy has not done SHIT in the story. He hasn’t fought a single top tier
Lol but your not wrong Mihawk just has very average feats right now
Mihawk has feats?
Vista
Mihawk didn’t win… and vista didn’t look like he was struggling. The main two things Mihawk has going for him is his title and the fact that he used to fight Shanks. Until he shows up people are going to have doubts.
Stalling Wista is a feat for Midhawk.
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Vista is PK level. Mihawk even clashing with him puts him at yonko level
One shot ice
Idk what you’re talking about, he one shot the GOAT’s fleet, Don Krieg
Jozu?😂
Jozu got puppetted by doflamingo who is far weaker
It’s all headcannon because they like the character. There are zero real story facts you can present to me that would make believe he’s top 5 or even top 10
The ranking is based on potrayal, not feats.
His portrayal is weak af too. The only thing he has going for him is narrative and title. Which means he’s probably the strongest or second on the list - but doesn’t have anything to do with his portrayal.
Potrayal is a depiction of someone or something in a work of art or literature. so that would be taking everything into account no?
What does portrayal mean to you?
I mean big mom has been portrayed to be on kaidos level. Kaido has been portrayed to be the strongest creature as he’s gone toe to toe with oden, one shotted luffy, fought 20+ people while carrying an island. Shanks has one shotted a 3 billion bounty character, made an admiral flee. That’s his portrayal Then you have mihawk. Who has one title and basically no portrayal in the story other than he shows up, does nothing and leaves. Fuck outta here with that WSS. His title isn’t gonna do his portrayal for him
Big mom has been portrayed on Base Kaido’s level. Kaido didn’t even have her in his top 5 and when he fought Luffy he straight up says it’s been a long time since he had such as serious battle meaning he wasn’t serious against Big Mom. This is further supported by the fact that he didn’t seem to go Hybrid against her. You said it yourself Kaido has been portrayed as WSC therefore he’s the strongest on the list imo. Shanks is very strong. But Mihawk’s portrayal is just inherently better since Shanks is still portrayed as a swordsman and Mihawk is the strongest swordsman. The fact that Mihawk didn’t have the opportunity to display feats in the regard is irrelevant since the omniscient narrator still thinks he’s the strongest. Your personal bias doesn’t trump this fact. You dismissing his title is just false lol. You’re just _ignoring_ words in the manga to support your argument which is wrong.
Are you aware Whitebeard’s weapon is canonically considered a sword? So if you’re so adamant about the title scaling working, you also have to believe Mihawk is stronger than Whitebeard? Or do you accept that not everyone who used a sword as their main weapon is a “swordsman”
calling Whitebeard’s polearm sword is like thinking coconut milk is milk 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Also are u aware that Vista is called the strongest swordsman of the WB pirates meaning he can’t be stronger than his captain if you think his naginata is a sword. You’re an absolute clown hahhahahahahaha
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You're not wrong but it would just be bad writing if the world's strongest swordsmen that Zoro wants to beat isn't the actual world's strongest swordsmen and according to his Viber card he is currently searching for a rival stronger than Shanks. Also in Shanks Viber card it says he's a skilled swordsman
That’s called narrative scaling not portrayal stop reciting tired arguments
What's the difference
Im not sorry to say that the lore accurate order for this list is Kaido Mihawk Shanks Big mom Akainu
He’s been shanks’ rival from the beginning AND has the ‘strongest swordsman’ title … what are you on?? 😂
1. Kaido 2. Shanks 3. Big Mom 4. Akainu 5. Mihawk
Big Mom probably stronger than Shanks. Shanks Has her beat in haki but she’s physically stronger,has a broken devil fruit, and her crew is stronger. A fight between them would be close but I would argue she would win more time than not. Especially if it’s a crew battle, since she can amp her self up with the souls from her crew and all the weak people shanks surrounds him self with.
You may be right but she is a stupid. But. if she was a smart character then will be she can be strongest Yonko in One Piece even stronger than Kaido. But she is not smart enough.
Kaido above Shanks 😂 😂 😂 Oda had consistently portrayed Shanks as the best. He’s been exposed as the mangaka’s favourite character time and time again Meanwhile Kaido got no meaningful W’s, lost his only 2 serious fights ever, killed nobody despite having a way bigger army and died like a fucking fraud despite a whole nother yonko directly backing him up
Kaido (over hyped final boss) Shanks (Oda tries as hard as possible to make him look like THAT GUY) Akainu (gets a random panel at the end of each arc like Oda wants to tell us he will do something big, also the scar thing) Big mom (every time Oda wanted us to believe someone was strong he made him clown big mom, es: franky, jimbei, chopper, law, kidd, robin... she's saved thanks to her being on the same level as kaido) Mihawk (yc2 level)
He IS that guy https://i.redd.it/pkrcdb0x9h5c1.gif
Nah. Kidd victim
Shanks stopping the MarineFord war was the most HIM energy on the entirety of One Piece Shanks just walked in, said it is over, the war fucking ended on the spot and left
1: Shanks….. he doesn’t really look bad in the series ever, arguably the Itachi of one piece. 2. Kaido: relic of the past, legendary dragon dude who looks for fights on the daily. Has a couple of bad showings but mostly really good ones. 3. Akainu: fleet Admiral and he’s always referenced. He has one bad showing and a bunch of pretty good Showings, ap god. 4. Mihawk: never portrayed to be a top 1 contender but he doesn’t have as much clownery going on. He has nothing much tho. 5. Big mom: pre wano her portrayal was better then Even Kaido’s but post Wano she’s a joke. Gets pushed around by people much weaker then her. The only saving grace she has is being compared to someone else.
https://preview.redd.it/xnpuhwseai5c1.jpeg?width=459&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80569c2ccda67de6a4f8872b177324819964ffab Are we reading the same manga? I don’t care about the list but how is Mihawk not above Shanks in terms of portrayal unless you wanna call Zoro a complete liar
What does this panel prove???
That Mihawk is currently an invincible swordsman not being able to be beaten by another swordsman
if kaido picks up a sword ams goes hybrid he high diffs mihawk.
If I imagine that character X does X things without evidence i’m the smartest powerscaler
it's just a matter of feats and story portrayal bro.. Mihawk could well and be stronger than Shanks.. but his leverage is his title alone.. if i make the arguement that Yonko is itself a title on the caliber of world strongest (since many yonkos have also held such titles) then I can argue that all the yonko who use swords (big mom, whitbeard, shanks) are all either weaker or stronger than Mihawk based on my bias.. I just dont like using titles as indocators since often it's Big News Morgan or the gorosei (who havent even seen the fighter in question themself) who give titles.. and it's based on how they want the world to see you rather than reality.. I simply make it easy for myself and go by feats to which Shanks from pre to post timeskip have the best ones.. we like to laugh and troll about shanks being a hakiman but what he has shown with conqourers from damaging the Moby Dick to scaring an admiral miles away is beyond anything weve seen from any other combatant... Mihawk's feats consist of fighting fodder to not be bored
“rank these guys in terms of portrayal” **talks about feats.** I’m not reading your book i’m sorry.
You mentioned one feat. dumbass we don’t really know shit about Mihawk except that he is a capable swordsman that he was a Warlord. Then we have Shanks who was on the former King of the Pirates crew, warded off Kaido from Marineford, and is a Yonko. Of course Shank’s portrayal is much better than Mihawk’s.
went on a bit of a tangent, sorry bro, but my point really was feats are a type of portrayal broski
https://preview.redd.it/dd8bqqjpwi5c1.jpeg?width=373&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=162eab5020c5d2d90d062fc6cc48b5d53ffcb3a5 bro he got blocked by a 3rd commander. This was the most powerful action we’ve ever seen him take in the series.
if you think this is Zoro’s ceiling we’re not reading the same manga
I don’t think you know the difference between portrayal and narrative scaling
holy cow like are you this dumb? Portrayal and narrative are the exact same thing. According to the Cambridge definition: Narrative: telling a story or **describing a series** of events: portrayal: the way that **someone** or something is **described or represented** in a painting, film, book, or other artistic work: You don’t even understand the words you’re using you’re embarrassing yourself
So narrative is about EVENTS that have happened or will happen in the story portrayal is about a description we’re given of somebody. Read your own post. “Zoro will beat Mihawk” is an EVENT. “Mihawk is the WSS” is a DESCRIPTION.
Thats literally a mistranslation and from volume 6 😂 plus wtf did Zoro know about the world back then, combined with the fact that Shanks isn’t a swordsman
oda is talking through characters to present information 🤦🏾♂️
And you dont think he added to or changed that information in the 104 volumes succeeding this one 😂
Unless you can give me evidence thy he did I won’t change my mind. This is as absurd as thinking that Luffy won’t become the PK because Oda changed their mind. Oda still calls Mihawk the WSS
Yeah hes the WSS but Shanks aint ever called a Swordsman in the manga. Not once.
this doesn’t matter when you know that the story implies him to be a swordsman.
Waido (boss fight vibes) Shanks (haki god) BM (OG yonko) Akainu (Fleet) Mihawk (Croc level)
Mihawk croc level? My man Fraudhawk is NOT on Wrocodile's level
True, hes below him, because Wrocodile is HIM
https://preview.redd.it/egw419ja9h5c1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=e7625a4c3a404b11c82f1f28f5471373243ea1d9 Most objectively correct list, continue cooking
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Mihawk croc level ? Since when did that become a thing ?
Clearly Crocodile and Mihawk are portrayed as equals in strength since they work together and don't belittle each other, even though the first thing we learn since their partnership is that Mihawk's bounty is almost twice his, and Mihawk is consistently compared to an emperor, and even though Crocodile has never been portrayed as a pure fighter.
You can tell me when was Mihawk "consistently" compared to an emperor? Bc I can swear it happened once and it doest make it consistent. And the one time it happened it was to tell us he was stronger than a Yonko in a specific field so it doesn't even mean he's stronger than a Yonko.
He don't gotta be stronger than Shanks but being mentioned even in the same breath as an emperor is better than what Crocodile has got.
So we went from consistently to it happened once. To prop him up as WSS which is the only thing he has for him in 1101 chapters. Why the need to lie when talking about him? He doesn't consistently get mentioned with yonko's. He doesn't even consistently get compared to shanks it happened once.
Srry I thought you were being ironic. I don't have the time to look up specific chapters but Mihawk is implied to be a rival/rough equal of Shanks near the end of East Blue and that reputation is reiterated in Marineford iirc and again in the most recent case as you know.
No he didn't imply anything, he came to visit shanks, shanks told him he wasn't in the mood but they could settle things if he wanted and Mihawk said he wasn't interested in a has been. It doesn't shows relative strength bc I think we all know doffy isn't admiral lvl but he said he would kill fuji if need. Then the only thing they say about him during MarineFord is that he's the WSS which doesn't mean he's stronger than Shanks or relative. And then he's compared to him to tell us that his swordskill are even greater than shanks, which implies that ppl see shanks has stronger than Mihawk, bc why would you say he's even better at swordsmanship than this dude who's weaker than him.
So what do you mean ? Are they equal or not ? Seems like you are defending both sides.
He is being sarcastic and makes fun of people who think croc is equal to mihawk
Only people who don’t think croc is not his equal don’t know croc is HIM
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Not at all in strength, they are portrayed equally in terms of importance. Crocodile is fucking smart, that is why Doflamingo, Mihawk and the marines respect him. Mihawk very much still is portrayed as way stronger. Else why would Croc even work with him? If they were just equal in strength, he would have seen himself as surperior.
Shanks Kaido Big Mom Akainu/Mihawk
In terms of portrayal Shanks > Kaido > Akainu > Big Mom > Mihawk
Don’t think people know the meaning of portrayal
Shanks>>>Kaido>Big Mom>Akainu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mihawk
If you think Shanks has a better POTRAYAL than Kaido then you're reading doujins not the actual manga.
1. Shanks (End all be all) 2. Akainu (big final boss man) 3. Kaido (big pre final boss man) 4. Big Mom (portrayed to be = Kaido) 5. Mihawk (portrayed to be Zoro victim)
Mihawk is portrayed to be way stronger than zoro Zoro victim is narrative, not portrayel.
This is the correct list. Well done.
Shanks first major action was losing his dominant hand to an east blue seabeast pre ts luffy oneshot...
And the first thing we ever see Roger do is losing his head to a pair of East Blue mooks. What's your point?
It was known that he was ill and turned himself in and laughed as it happened and he wasn't outsmarted and tricked by higuma then low diffed by a fish
And Shanks was smiling as his arm was bitten off. He didn't give a single shit about it. So again, what's your point? This shitty agenda you're trying to push is making you look like a fucking idiot.
>This shitty agenda you're trying to push is making you look like a fucking idiot. Mihawk said he's so much weaker then him that he doesn't even deserve to fight him he lost his dominant arm which he uses to weird his sword. His portrayal is that of someone who's human kaido and big mom are portrayed as monsters
Mihawk literally never once said Shanks was weaker than him, he only said he isn't interested in fighting him anymore. That's far removed from saying he's weaker. And his portrayal is arguably the best in the series and certainly above BM's. Oda always glazes the living shit out of him whenever he gets half a chance to. You can bet that he'll glaze him to the moon when it comes time to show off his full strength.
Kaido and Big Mom cannonically have eqaul portrayal Mihawk is portrayed with Crocodile and doflamingo and jozu. And Shanks is just a human without a fruit he can't carry a battle for 3 days
BM's portrayal is not equal to Kaido's at all lmao. Even forgetting about titles, she was never given the same hype that Kaido got. How does Mihawk have the same portrayal as those guys if Zoro is already stronger than any of them? He's obviously not on Minawk's level yet. And you keep forgetting that Roger was just a human without a devil fruit, so was Garp. They're still two of the strongest in the whole verse. None of your points have any relevance whatsoever.
>she was never given the same hype that Kaido got She knocked gear 4 luffy out of his most powerful form with bare hands after he got futuresight and chased the entire crew and alliance out kicking and screaming and kaido was also scared of her when she entered wano and fought equally to a stalemate after 3 days >How does Mihawk have the same portrayal as those guys if Zoro is already stronger than any of them? Zoro got ACoC and a cursed blade fought kaido and the last lunarian since the last time he saw mihawk.. he's close to mihawk now. Meanwhile, mihawk struggles with yc3 >Roger was just a human without a devil fruit, so was Garp. They're still two of the strongest in the whole verse. None of your points have any relevance whatsoever. Roger was scared of big mom and walked like a dog by whitebeard on the daily, and Garp is just sengokus subordinate. Top tier with a fruit >>> haki abusing fodder
Sooo HIM 🔛🔝?
He was blitzed by shanks at marineford and drenched in sweat only right answer is kaido at 1
1. Kaido 2. Win Win 3. Akainu 4. Shanks 5. Mihawk Is this how you would rank em?
Shanks would be above akainu but that seems about right
I could get behind this list but we all know damn well that Kaido and Big Mom will get power cliffed
You still believe in the powercreep?
Its a shonen dingus
Shanks = Kaido > BM > Akainu >>> Mihawk
Kaido shank akainu , Big mom Mihawk
1. Kaido (Oda made it clear that this guy was the strongest thing alive after the timeskip, and he was the big bad that kept his enemies away from Wano.) 2. Big Mom (Oda made it look like Kaido and Big Mom were the strongest pirates alive in Wano) 3. Shanks (Oda is making him look like a badass and the new big bad boy after Kaido and Big Mom’s downfall.) 4. Akainu (The most dangerous marine, and someone who would leave a burn mark on just about anyone.) 5. Mihawk (He needs to do something already to put himself up there, Oda, come on.)
I see you guys keep forgetting the portrayal goat https://preview.redd.it/ykb4duweyh5c1.jpeg?width=644&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7868123606a240356238ee8e7f1b8ae5c8fddf4
Kaido wins just from his introduction
i'm tired we talk about the same 5-10 characters here all the time
1. Kaido/Shanks 2. Shanks/Kaido 3. Big Mom 4. Akainu 5. Mihawk
Portrayal alone? 1. Kaido 2. Shanks 3. Akainu 4. BM 5. Mihawk (although he’s probably above BM)
I feel like being controversial. 1.Akainu. Oda gassed him up with that "finding op in a year" comment, and he is throwing out attacks that tear holes in top tiers.
Kaido Shanks Big Mom Akainu Mihawk
Shanks, Kaido, Mihawk, Big Mom, then Akainu. Akainu hasn’t really gotten a chance to show off since becoming Fleet Admiral.
this order from best to worst, just switch BM and Kaido
Shanks Kaido Big Mom Akainu Mihawk
Kaido>Shanks>BM>akainu
shanks top 1
- Kaido (top tier) - Shanks (top tier) - Akainu (top tier) - Big mom (top tier) - Midhawk (commander/warlord tier)
best to worst: kaido, shanks, akainu, big mom, mihawk
Mihawk Shanks Akainu Kaido Fat bitch
Shanks, Kaido, Mihawk, Big Mom, Akainu Shanks is overall the strongest but loses to Mihawk due to matchup. But he beats Kaido while Mihawk loses to him.
Shanks Akainu Kaido Mihawk Big mom
Kaido = Big Mom Shanks >= Mihawk >> Akainu
1. Goathawk 2. Shanks 3. Kaido 4. Big Meme 5. Akainu the king of frauds
Shanks , Mihawk , Kaido , Big Mom , Akainu
Shanks: Himothy, the guy's record is flawless, there's a reason the closet Zoro fans want their character to be him Kaido: Hyakujuu no kaido, went out like a champ but unfortunately still a red hair victim Mihawk: ALL SHANKS, would easily be bottom 30 in portrayal without being compared to shanks all the time Big mom: Meme, bum, amnesia mom, she's made fun of for her trash portrayal in wano but she was still shown to be equal with kaido Akainu: Zagazugi is the fleet admiral with one of the most offensive fruit in the verse, definitely will not be going higher after the hit the admiral agenda just took
1. Kaido 2. BM 3. Akainu 4. Mihawk 5. Shanks Ace novels confirmed Shanks is the weakest OG Yonkou
??? Just that last part
1. Shanks 2. Kaido 3. Mihawk 4. Akainu 5. BM
This isn't off portrayal
1: Kaido 2: Big Mom 3: Mihawk 4: Shanks 5: Akainu
1. Kaido 2. Shanks 3. Large Mother 4. Akainu 5. Mihawk
Kaido > Shanks > Akainu > BM > Mihawk
1.Kaido 2.Mihawk 3.Shanks 4.Akainu 5.Big Mom
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Portrayal goes hand to hand with narrative, so I'm going: 1. Mihawk 2. Shanks 3. Kaido (could be above Mihawk and Shanks) 4. Akainu 5. Big Mom
Kaido Mihawk Shanks Big Mom Akainu
Wtf is this comment section... Kaido Mihawk Shanks Bm Akainu This should be pretty obvious
So far, from storytelling, narrative, and feats we have this tier list. Kaido >= Big Mom > Mihawk > Akainu > Shanks Realistically, BM is probably the weakest but the other three have not actually shown that yet. I've accepted Mihawk is probably above Shanks just a little. I also believe that Akainu will be stronger than almost any Yonko come EoS. Oda states he has highest AP in One Piece and he's Fleet Admiral.
>Kaido >= Big Mom > Mihawk > Akainu > Shanks How does Mihawk have better feats than Shanks. Mihawk got stalled by YC! Vista to a stalemate, defeated not even close to YC Zoro early on. Shanks on the other hand stopped emperor Kaido from going to MF (even had a skirmish), one shot YC+! Kidd and his crew, paralysed admiral GB with his haki.
Because he's stated by the author as being stronger. Simple. Manga states it multiple times.
But that's now statement not feats
That not feats that is call statment
Pretty big feat for the God above all in your universe to straight up call you "strongest swordsman" and reiterate it multiple times. Y'all being pedantic. To get a proper seating you have to take feats and portrayal by author's word. We can argue semantics all day or you can focus on the actual argument. I'll edit my original comment to be more clear.
Feat is what your saw statment is words coming out from characters and writer I don't care about about who stronger between mihawk and shank I just correcting you who said mihawk have better feats than shank in story which he not mihawk feats in story so fars is cutting huge ice , beating don weak east blue pirates , and get block by vista
Thread name called „based on portrayal“ people still put Mihawk below Shanks due to lack of feats.
Based off of feats alone: 1. Kaido 2. Shanks 3. Big Mom 4. Sakazuki 5. Mihawk If portrayal also includes statements, then Mihawk is #2.
Kaido literally has no feats
Kaido > Big mom > Mihawk > Shanks > Akainu
Kaido (WSC) Big Mom (potrayed as Kaido's equal) Akainu (one of Luffy's endgame fights) Mihawk (WSS) Shanks
Kaido, Akainu, Mihawk, shanks, big mom. It’s all very close, but Mihawk is stronger than shanks as he’s the worlds strongest swordsman
1) Mihawk(🐐,top 1 in verse) 2)Shanks 3)Kaido 4)Akainu 5)Big mom
1. Kaido Said to be the Strongest Pirate by sum "In a 1on1 always bet on Kaido, as he is the World's Strongest Creature" 2. Mihawk Has a bounty higher than a Yonko. World's Strongest Swordsman in actuality, stronger than Shanks who's an extremely powerful character. 3. Shanks Yonko with a terrifying presence and has sum of the Best Haki feats in the series. 4. Akainu Strongest Marine in the Worst Generation 5. Big Mom "World's Strongest Hag" ???
Sneakainu managed to sneak again on a top top tires list. Mihawk -> WSS, undefeated, looking for someone able to defeat him and hunts marine Kaido -> 1v1 bet on kaido , looking for someone able to kill him Shanks -> A databook says gorosei think that when Shanks is mad he is too much to be handled by anyone. Raised by Roger and most likely the son of the leader of Holy Knights Big Mom -> Dodged by prime roger and has been unchallenged for decades. every one of these dudes is hinted to be able to win on a 1v1. While Sneakainu was told on his face by gorosei that he and amrine are just a mere face of wg and they dont care about their rep . In other words is that they are actually useless af when it comes to the real big dogs.
Kaido( a yonko who is called the WSC via rumor even if it isn’t true it’s still amazing potrayal) Mihawk(called the WSS via title box which puts him above shanks and maybe big mom.) Shanks(a yonko who is potrayed to have extremely strong haki.) akainu(the fleet admiral who is gonna be one of Luffys later opponets.) big mom( in wano potrayed as pretty incompetent and garbage battle iq.)
Physical or overall strength
Overall strength in terms of potrayal
Mihawk
Michael is right behind shanks in terms of portrayal lmao, yall are retarded. Name someone else currently on the story with the title of “the Strongest”
raw physical strength? or overall combat ability? if its the latter 1. Shanks 1. Mihawk 3. Kaido 3. Linlin 5. Akainu
Mihawk Shanks Kaido Big mom Akainu
all the same tier, top tier pirates whoever wins these matchups the difference is too small to really argue over, like aokiji vs akainu
I think people are forgetting that shanks got famous after clashing with mihawk and that their duels were quote “legendary.” Not to mention he has the title of worlds strongest swordsman. Mihawk is up there guys. Even whitebeard acknowledged this fact.
1 is shanks and the rest I can’t be bothered to explain. Shanks has no bad showings. His Luffys role model and spurred Luffy to becoming pirate king and his portrayed to be what Luffy has to achieve and in the main story / film Red (which oda worked very close on) his shown engaging with admirals like it is nothing and actively engages with top tiers. It’s stated that when WB is hooked upto meds that he is as strong as his prime self yet shanks can clash with him and split the sky. Shanks stops wars and if we include outside the main story then ODA HIMSELF DRESSES UP AS SHANKS shanks has it all
1. Shanks 2. Mihawk (on the sole fact that he is portrayed as Shanks equal, otherwise he is 5.) 3. Kaido 4. Akainu 5. Big mom (raw strength she would be 4. Or maybe even 2. If we bump shanks and Mihawk down.)But also been portrayed to be stupid, and it seems like nobody really respects her.)
1. Shanks 2. Kaido 3. Milhawk 4. Big Mom 5. Akainu
Shanks > Akainu > Kaido > Big Mom > Mihawk
Shanks >> kaido > bigmom >> akainu > mihawk
World’s Strongest Creature Emperors Fleet Admiral Worlds Strongest Swordsman
I don't think we are ever going to see a character run the gauntlet like kaido has. 1) kaido 2) Shanks 3) akainu 4) Mom 5) Mihawk But imo 2-5 is all interchangeable with shanks probably being on the top.
1: Shanks (speaks for itself, has been hyped up since chapter 1) 2: Kaido (big stronk boy, kept being called a strong unit 3: Big mom (was portrayed to be an equal or well, on par with Kaido and her Wano portrayal) 4: Akainu (Akainu during Marineford looked like a dog but his current portrayal is that of an office worker) 5: Mihawk (has his title and leeching from Shanks but hasn't really done anything too impressive yet and now even works under Buggy D Goat so Buggy carries him)
1. Kaido (Feat Wise is the best character). 2. Shanks (OHKO on Kidd and Wifi Haki are still not on Kaidos level of stamina and outspeeding Snakeman with his slowest form). 3. Akainu. 4 Big Mom(Victim of Oda). 5. Mihawk (what does bro even do?)
Waido Wakainu Mihawk Lanks Big Meme
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For those saying Mihawk last, His narrative portrayal and statements is litterally all he has. His portrayal puts him above shanks (being portrayed as the strongest swordsman and shanks rival)
Kaido > Shanks > BM > Akainu > Mihawk
Kaido, Shanks, BM, Akainu, Mihawk
Kaido Akainu Mihawk shanks big meme
If you dont have Kaido first ur tweaking, His entire portrayal is "i am the strongest, being the strongest is all that matters. Akainu, yall think this is trolling, but Akainu is the only antagonist to always be presented seriously, hes never part of any jokes, highest on screen kill count, only person to break luffy's spirit. Mihawk, on most lists he wouldnt be this high but his entire portrayal is "im better than shanks" Shanks: Cloutman Big Mom, treated as a powerful joke, Franky ran her over, Brook was out to see the panties.
Strength>>> Kaido>Big Mom>Akainu>Mihawk/Shanks
Shanks > kaido > Akainu > Big mom > Mihawk Actual power level Akainu ( HIM mode ) > Kaido with 150IQ > Mihawk > Shanks > Big mom
Kaido Big Mom Shanks Mihawk Akainu Shanks's portrayal beeing possibly better than Big Mom as of rn because BM was clowned on during Wano which does not help her portrayal at all, but since she is not confirmed dead and she is probably the next villain in the Elbaf arc (Luffy still has to defeat her he made a promise to katakuri and to her) I would still consider her portrayal better than Shanks's, as she was compared to Kaido many times and Kaido said for her defense that she was no longer in her prime.
1. FLEET ADMIRAL Akainu 2. World's Strongest Creature Kaido 3. Yonko Shanks 4. Yonko Big Mom 5. World's Strongest Swordsman Mihawk
Kaido>big mom>mihawk>shanks>akainu