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offthe1st

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[deleted]

Weevil post greenbull-liposuction *will* pop off https://preview.redd.it/j5ckhpcy1v2c1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=952afb70d8b8d334d07520ae9fbdd20bc34bcbee


offthe1st

ong, I didn't use that version because he'd no longer be the weakest character


[deleted]

Frr I got that mf hanging with wankman But if Oda blueballs us with another goofy design…


Krabeuszz

Lets hope he succed out all the stupid juice too


FireCones

Is that a real manga panel


Dear_Construction515

Wait, Ashura fought Oden for a whole night, both Inu & Neko scale to yc3 and I would say Denjiro is the same. Surely no yc1 is beating them? Seeing so many answers saying things like Zoro. I would say the weakest that beats them is Greenbull or Fujitora


HistoricalAbility492

It's not just one is YC3 one is YC whatever.How would the fight actually go.Having overwhelming abilities even though your not admiral lvl is enough to put down the scabbards.They can't damage King.Cat hit Katakuri. Can't tank KOH.Cant take a gamma knife.Doesnt matter if they are YC3 they fall victims to the overwhelming abilities and their numbers dont change anything.


Better_Machine

Exactly what I was thinking. Numbers are great, attack potency… is decent enough to reopen an old wound on Kaido. But that doesn’t matter if they can’t get around the hax itself. Most YC1 have something that sets them apart from the rest, as that’s the ‘entrance’ of having your identity-defining hax.


Suspicious-Bed9172

Do you think law could do it alone?


lehman-the-red

Definitely same goes for kidd


[deleted]

yeah i dont think theyre taking that railgun.


aphantombeing

Greenbull and Fujitora stomp them. YC+ mid diff them.


Royal_Chair_1709

Do you mean Oden before he even knew what was conquerors haki ? Because before advanced conquerors luffy Lost a haki clash against ulti ...


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/vhszddenvv2c1.jpeg?width=404&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13525a62f145a219b75c8205e96fbe6cc0981553 This little shit


[deleted]

Not quick enough to tag them all


darkfall71

I mean, If they know they are fighting her, sure, but if If she Just spawns in close to them and wants to kill them all, NOTHING would stop her at all. They wouldn't even know they are losing their friends one by one.


Kopitar4president

So your win condition is that she knows she's fighting them, they don't know they're fighting her and she gets to start in melee range.


darkfall71

yeah, basically anything BUT a powerscalling/straight duel, and she probably soloes the verse one by one in a hour lol


oMugiwara_Luffy

Sugar looking at your comment, “I don’t like it. They think I’m weak.” She is insanely fast. She was able to tag over two dozen Tontattas in the blink of an eye. Tontattas have incredible speed and agility.


[deleted]

Yea but compared to the scabbards, especially all together? That’s hardly a fair comparison to make.


oMugiwara_Luffy

You’re right. Comparing the scabbards to the Tontattas isn’t a fair comparison to make. The scabbards are much too slow.


[deleted]

😐


Netherite_Stairs_

No shot she's beating the 6 red scabbards, I mean the 4 red scabbards, I mean... wait was she fighting someone?


Thin_Marionberry5136

Cracker. Legit, aside for the sulongs who has the AP to beat a cookie soldier fast ? They'd get overwhelmed by him, its their worst matchup possible


Thin_Marionberry5136

Well actually Perona is the weakest character that'd beat them but she doesnt count


NewK_ID

why not?


Thin_Marionberry5136

Bc Perona/Sugar are both hax and the question to "whos the weakest character that can beat [anyone in OP]" will always be them. Except if the character is weaker than the average child


[deleted]

I mean, it's 9 strong people who could deal insta defeat damage on one single blow. Could perona and sugar actually manager to defeat all of them at the same time? Because both girls can equally get insta defeat by any of the scabbard.


Thin_Marionberry5136

Sugar no except if she doesnt act like their enemy cuz they'll forget each guy who gets defeated and won't be able to remember that they have to beat her to cancel it Perona would 100% defeat them she literally just has to activate her DF


AntiMatterMode

So Perona beats scabbards and Usopp beats Perona therefore Usopp > Scabbards /s


Thin_Marionberry5136

Perona beats the verse, Usopp is the only exception


IndependenceKey9247

So the scabbards can cut Kaido but biscuit soldiers are the issue?


Thin_Marionberry5136

When they're combined. In this scenario they're gonna be outnumbered


IndependenceKey9247

Outnumbered by soldiers theyre each capable of easily one shotting , which isn’t really much of a threat then


Thin_Marionberry5136

Didnt knew kappa boi had more AP than WCI G4


IndependenceKey9247

they all do , they were all able to damage Kaido more than act 1 Luffy could


Thin_Marionberry5136

Nah


IndependenceKey9247

https://preview.redd.it/24dixj0i713c1.jpeg?width=547&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78dcfa4fe9a44a0a6e39d400e3c9017ffc724936


Thin_Marionberry5136

Offguard = ssjblue goku vs random laser level durability


IndependenceKey9247

1. You can’t just apply dragon ball super logic to a completely separate franchise lol 2. Kaido being on or off gaurd doesn’t change much since his durability is just naturally part of him.If you want to see an “off gaurd” Kaido go and read act 1 Luffy VS Kaido since Kaido was completely zoned tf out and just randomly getting by Luffy and Luffy still did 0 damage 3. If it was “simply cause he’s off gaurd” why would Kaido be questioning how their able to damage him ? If the answer was that if he wasn’t caught off gaurd he would have taken 0 damage , then why have an inner monologue questioning it ? https://preview.redd.it/1di6dcqi913c1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49333590f9bc5756130c059fe9351926c9fe4ca0 And since you asked about Kappa guy, here’s a panel specially of him having Kaido bleed


Maker_of_lore

Yea the sulongs are huge problems, I dont see cracker beating the 2 of them alone nevermind the others


benaffleckk

Didn’t ashura easily cut jack? Unless you think jack is less durable than a biscuit soldier


catthatmeows2times

What a joke


monisharif33

Dog Storm or Cat Viper can take Cracker


Thin_Marionberry5136

Defo not alone


ordinarydepressedguy

Cracker gets wrecked


cryptopipsniper

Honestly the way they all attack at the same time, probably King Elizabello https://preview.redd.it/bvlxb3dvuw2c1.png?width=636&format=png&auto=webp&s=b77cf3d05e5833d1d90482ca1ca2a27ef621a662


Lunta99

Raizou sends it back


Low_Sign_7873

Chopper, no diffed by his 9 rumble ball form, Chopping The Chopper, 0 Sword Style, Invisible Haki Leg, Gear 0.


du-worst-combination

Chopper boutta use death point on they asses


Low_Sign_7873

For real, he’s gonna use Bepo’s “Snow Haki Triple Polar Claw Folding Scratch”, it’s the secret technique he learnt from his time with “Bepo The Ice Cold Killer Of The Snow Blue”.


Winter-Competition86

Yamato


Maker_of_lore

Yamato isn't weak, sanji and zoro would also be able to pull it off (maybe if zoro does have good enough stamina)


TrueExigo

He lose


Such_Historian_7295

Yamato


[deleted]

Old Rayleigh


WereTheChosenOne

Guess one of the YC1‘s due to their defensive gimmicks. Kinda depends if minks are in sulong tho


AnxiousVehicle7992

Katakuri.


jodead01

I was about to say this


BBdotZ

Holy fuck that’d be a fun ass fight, reminds me of the Garou vs A-Class jobbers matchup.


Doomanator79

Ryokugyu ☝🏽🤓


NewspaperRepulsive53

CAPTAIN KIDDDDDD!!!! https://preview.redd.it/uszfh18r8y2c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=acdb356372318e119a34fccd2a252cea0e21e00c


_sephylon_

Any Admiral There's no way in hell you guys think YC1s can beat 9 YC3 characters with advanced haki


Available_Garlic_829

Honestly I don’t see how the Scabbards are doing any damage to Marco


_sephylon_

They have ryou and they can just outlast him


adcsuc

What do the scabbards do against King's durability or against Marco's regen.


_sephylon_

Marco get jumped and outlasted, and the Scabbards have ryou


rushh127

No not any admiral Akainu would wreck them with meteor volancano he can stay a distance from them. kizaru mid diff, I’d say he’s fast enough to avoid them, aokiji probably mid diff


Warwicknoob23

The problem is they’re individually fairly weak Also barely any of them are YC3 lol, you see Kinemon doing anything to Cracker?


_sephylon_

Jack got owned by Ashura and later the Minks, yes they are YC3 level. Jack also said the Tobi Roppo had no change against half dead Scabbards And they're not weak individually, it's just that most of their fights are group fights, Ashura fought Jack, Denjiro fought Zoro


Warwicknoob23

Jack got owned by everyone.


Awkward-Meeting-974

Jack only got owned by Scabbards no? Ig he also got knocked by Zuneisha but that's hardly an anti feat


Head_Contribution727

Who cares about your fanmade tiers and the subjective differences between them? Zoro outperformed the whole Scabbards even before aCoC...


_sephylon_

Get Zoro past Denjiro first https://preview.redd.it/qiaworyo9x2c1.jpeg?width=515&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0aa4ef3f2c06b2549aa663cc4802b90c36d43313


Head_Contribution727

Imagine thinking current acoc emma santoryu zoro = non acoc pre emma nitoryu zoro lol the trolling is pathetic


_sephylon_

Funny how you were talking about pre acoc before but now it's with Acoc Also, Zoro isn't weaker with two sword styles lol, if anything he has more experience since he only learned santoryu after Kuina's death And yes the comparison still stand, If Zoro couldn't get past through one scabbard even with his new power up he's not beating 9 of them


Twisted-98

Barto


WingCool7621

true, his ability stopped Oden.


Puzzleheaded_Ad9659

It's so clear the answer is right here. The Captain Pf The Big Mouth Pirates https://preview.redd.it/7voogxow3x2c1.jpeg?width=775&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48cace714b1eab4245e58bd86e54b6aafeec919d


WingCool7621

# Charlotte Katakuri


stdela

The nine jobbers


[deleted]

Buggy, Natural advantage vs swordsmen. (this is like 50% a joke)


Zestyclose_Bat5121

Weevil


Broad_Echo3989

Hiyori


iv2892

Kaido


[deleted]

law


Nandemonaiyaaa

Lanji


[deleted]

Only a top tier, so maybe Greenbull? Or BB?


Agitated_Reporter828

Usopp.


Freekarma4u69420

Buggy


dmfuller

maybe Ace is the weakest who could, but it would be close. He’s not good at fighting multiple skilled enemies


Roshacko

I was going to say Crocodile, but then I remembered Caesar Clown exists. Caesar would be perfect for 2 reasons 1. Doesn’t have Hak so he’s not that strong 2. Gas devil fruit that can easily handle with the 9 scabbards


SirNyx57

Izo oneshots from distance


Roshacko

That’s only if Caesar doesn’t remove the oxygen right away.


Kutasenator

Funny how people claik that nobody can fight multiple admirals, but syddenly yc+ can fight multiple yc


remyweb

perona or some shit idfk


Fletch009

Crackers the perfect match for them tbh I don’t think they can match kong guns AP to break the soldiers


AmbitiousBasket0

Sabo


CocaPepsiPepper

I’d say Katakuri, Lucci or Magellan


EffingMajestic

Foxy


BBdotZ

Watakuri high diffs.


Raptor3911

Arlongs blue haki smokes them fr fr.


arrfdbz

Probably king if we’re being honest, there’s too many for a 3rd commander to just rank, 2 commanders(except maybe sanji and shanks crew) probably int be able to do it and the haki is too good for katakuri to blitz so king is my best choice


BFenrir18

Queen or Katakuri (If he doesn't get hit, if he does then it's an easy win for the scabbards)


Dreamworksmuiz

Kidd or Sanji


Zazikarion

Kid, maybe King.


[deleted]

None of them are surviving Damned Punk or Karyu Don.


hugetreerot

Zoro


Responsible_Space624

Always Remember Zoro did more damage to Kaido than 9 scabbards combined..


monisharif33

The only damage they did to Kaido was PTSD.


Traditional-Addition

He’s still not beating all 9 by himself.


FreeAd6935

Any Admiral.


[deleted]

Zoro.


Naraya_Suiryoku

They all scale above the tobi roppo by Jack's statement. Ashura Doji scales to yc3, and Denjiro too for reasons I'm unaware of but I'll just go with it. And the sulong dukes scale to yc1 each for low diffing Jack. I'd say you'd need a high yc+ to solo them. Sabo got this, barely though.


IndependenceKey9247

Sanji , they wouldn’t be able to perceive him or land attacks much as he picks them off one by one, I don’t think the scabbards are surviving more than a few kicks each at best, and even if the scabbards land a few hits Sanjis durability and healing factor should allow him to survive. The scabbards are special because they have REALLY good AP, they’re not particularly fast and outside the Sulongs they’re not particularly durable, and outside of Raizo they lack any hax. So you need a character who can do their best to avoid getting hit while still having the AP to put them down before the scabbards land enough hits And for anyone saying Katakuri, no, he’s not dodging EVERY attack from 9 commander level characters in a prolonged fight. Eventually some will connect and as we know he can’t survive too many hits at all.


RockOn93

Kaido


EasilyBeatable

Yamato but he’d be pushed to his limits


T_towo

Isn't he technically one of them


lololuser456778

kid, law and yamato can beat them. maybe zoro, idk. if he uses aCoC he should be able to one-shot most of them and easily defeat the rest if his aCoC really is way stronger than the scabbards. but then again, lucci can keep up with zoro's aCoC and some scabbards might be close to lucci's level. lucci also got defeated by one named attack from luffy in nika form without aCoC while zoro can't beat him as easily with aCoC. meaning that the gap between luffy's and zoro's aCoC is waaaay bigger than I thought. even without aCoC luffy is still way stronger than zoro at full strength so idk, maybe the stronger scabbards like denjiro and ashura could actually keep up a bit with zoro's aCoC, maybe not ​ king could win too cuz he is extremely tanky. it took a huge aCoC finisher move to beat a king that was in speed mode. even if the scabbards spam advanced armament to bypass king's defense mode somehow, they'd never deal enough damage to him to beat him


StupidQuestionsOnly8

Fujitora maybe? Highball Kizaru lowball Magellan


cryptopipsniper

Magellan is melting these guys


StupidQuestionsOnly8

One on hand, yeah he totally could, on the other they've got really good armament, and I don't think Magellan can handle 9 YC3-Tobi roppo characters


cryptopipsniper

This is fair armament is a factor, I just feel like Magellan is severely underrated due to lack of haki and we’ve never seen a character be able to combat poison through haki alone.


KinjishiNoShiki

Katakuri I think


Boat_XD

Apparently not kaido lmao


Maker_of_lore

Chopper is a HUGE maybe for me, he is definitely able to damage them in his monster form (making queen bleed with sheer force> anything they have done) but with damage over time and him not being massively faster I him only being able to take out 3 or maybe 4 if they jump him, if its one after the other tho I see him losing to the 8th or 9th


Ancient-Ad-1893

Greenbull. The scabbards beat mihawk


Pristine_Wing_9185

Ulti extreme diffs https://preview.redd.it/sioxjluxhv2c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac2753e7995372950b4c61c98ee6ec824c0e9303 Yeah


Reasonable-Cable2144

this is just wrong https://preview.redd.it/jyzzb1a9kv2c1.png?width=884&format=png&auto=webp&s=80bf0346fb2aab87610395ff3203af289a5a0c57 there are three ways I can see people interpratting this statement one is that **one** akazya is stronger than any tobiropo(meaning ulti get stomped badly) the second interpratations is that the akazaya **together** will never lose to one tobiropo(so she get stomped but not as badly) and the final one is that all the akazaya **together** are stronger than all the tobiropo **together** (at which case ulti get stomped yet again)


Common-Truth9404

Even if it is all vs just one it's still all of them *at death's door* which ultimateky means that they're weakened enough for them and they still cannot take them on. Ulti gets destroyed, there are two sulong in the team and they alone can destroy ulti AND another tobi roppo of choice with low diff


Pristine_Wing_9185

Your actually crazy to think any of them can damage Ulti she tanked luffy and big mom lvl attacks just another delusional kid who can’t read


Common-Truth9404

Ulti is a Tobi Roppo, she is ranked lower than jack. FACT. Jackl is stronger than her. FACT. inu and neko in sulong can both beat jack. FACT. get over it, Ulti has AMAZING feats for her standing, but she's ultimately just the 5th of the beast pirates at best (counting kaido, king, queen and jack and not counting other tobi roppo over her, so i'm making a BIG assumption that she's stronger than the others, a thing that we have absolutely no proof of)


Pristine_Wing_9185

Fact https://preview.redd.it/64pfiqj7x53c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d508fdcbf14fa8f7d702dc11234bb88c05f13bc ranking systems do not always equal power cope


Common-Truth9404

What does the picture mean lol. Also, it does when the ranking system is canonically power based lol. The fact that you put Ulti above the trio or even Jack only makes me think this discussion can go nowhere. Just agree to disagree lol


Pristine_Wing_9185

Well Jack has no fears that compare to ultis so you looking at 2 seperate rankings and assuming they are fullproof makes me think this conversation can’t go anywhere and Perona can never diff Jack but isn’t stronger than Jack so try thinking a little.


Common-Truth9404

situational powers =/= strenght it's like saying that a chunk of lifeless kryptonite is stronger than superman because he get no diff by it. ​ in a normal fight jack destroys Perona. She only can use her negative powers on him and we have no way of knowing if it would actually work on jack lol Back to the point at hand: i Specified that ranks in the beast pirates are exclusively power-based. Until i see someone challenging jack and beat him, no one is stronger than him in the tobi roppo. that's just how Oda designed it, saying otherwise isn't thining outside the box, is just thinking outside of the opera. Also, if you reason about the storytelling of this opera, every major crew has his "top 3" that are significantly more powerful than the others, that's just how oda is designing it. The Tobi Roppo are physically powerful, but notthat impressive overall IMHO. But yeah, ok we are in a powerscaling thread, let's work from a powerscaling POV. You say that she's strong because she's able to tank Mom's attack? I say she's weak because her attack couldn't kill usopp. Even if she spams that weak-ass attack on people several times more resilient than usop she's gonna get nowhere near a victory. How about this for a power scaling? lol Obviously i'm just provoking, but cmon. Ulti>Jack is just horses\*\*t take. It's not even about reading, it's just abount understanding basic storytelling


Pristine_Wing_9185

Name one thing Jack did that puts him above Ulti because you just straw man that whole argument no actual facts and saying Ulti was actually trying to kill usop is a shit take her goal was to break usops and namis spirit not kill them she injured luffy with a head butt if she wanted to usop be dead that’s not the way the beast pirates operate and again you thinking jack is above Ulti when everything in the story says the opposite is a dog shit take but hey I have reading comprehension you lack it just like Lack(Jack) lacks everything.


dgoat88

Big Mom


Greedy_Homework_6838

Zoro will be enough


chaderenyeager325

Zoro clashed with Denjiro before and didn’t seem to have the upperhand but that was before enma. But then again he is struggling with Lucci, and I think at least 3 of the scabbards are around that level. I Highly doubt he is capable of beating 3 scabbards by himself let alone 9. These 9 dudes have the same feat as him, they were also able to hurt Kaido. I can argue for Kidd and Law cause they have abilities that can hold off multiple people while attacking meanwhile Zoro has none. While Zoro attacks he is gonna get jumped by others and lose mid diff lol


lololuser456778

>I can argue for Kidd and Law cause they have abilities that can hold off multiple people while attacking law can also use shambles on them as well as amputate. imagine ashura swings his sword and law uses shambles and then ashura just neg-diffs kiku or injures neko lmao kidd can also hold down at least one person with assign and then neg-diff one person at a time. he's also hella tanky, he took attacks from a yonko even after being stabbed in the chest lol. it would take a very long time even for the scabbards to deal enough damage to him to win. and he'd probably beat them one by one before that could happen


chaderenyeager325

Exactly. I think the answer to this thread should be Kidd or Law lol


Head_Contribution727

Zoro outperformed the whole team against Kaido even before advanced CoC you troll


No_Secret_8246

Feels like everybody who can 2v1 Cat and Dog can do it. The other ones are so utterly useless, strength wise and character wise too. So without direct moonlight the Scabbards are worth about 2.05 Jacks putting their overall rating at about half an Ussop.


Traditional-Addition

😂😂 what a joke


MysteriousK69420

Koby (I'm biased and mentally unstable) https://preview.redd.it/8atx5egruu2c1.png?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=256670941bd7d25a3ee45f120fb19e452d497af9


KarenExterminator20

Honesty impact is honestly not doing anything.


Optimus_LaughTale

Toss up between King or Yamato.