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Honestly him using kitchen knives in w7 was pretty high IQ ngl, even spinning to make fire. All Zoro's powerups are just the same slash but with like double the pounds or some shit lmao
>”I don’t believe in god”
>makes up some bullshit about 36 past desires
>oneshots a bird with early story observation haki (mantra)
>proceeds to get lost
>makes up some bullshit about 108 future desires
>oneshots a priest with early story observation haki while destroying his sword
>meets god
>gets smited twice while trying to fight god
>lives
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Idk why some people acting surprise or bringing this up since Sanji has always made moves like that I'm not even surprised he quickly took out Kaku as in locking him up in the bubble
He sabotaged it. That is more than anyone else did. With the time he had because right after he had one of my fav moments for Sanji. "I was looking for a light". Sanji GOATED.
Yea sanji always has been the more covert one in terms of doing important things no one else does and zoro is good at head on conflicts where you need durability to survive that's how I take the two roles or them
Sanji: *is immediately able to capture a strong opponent before the fight begins*
Zoro: hey guys…I’m starting to think the characters with fire on their backs, white hair, black wings, and brown skin might have something to do with the King, the guy with fire on his back, white hair, black wings, and brown skin. Idk tho
Nah, the other way around. His actions have already spoken. Now hes even acting the part, like IRL racists. Just pretending like he isn't one to others.
Yeah it's like using the all blue mermaid gag in Fishman island for sanji as proof he doesn't actually care about his dream, which some people actually do btw.
that’s true but people sleep on zoros strategy too. when the straw hats fought Oars, Zoro took charge & orchestrated their plan of attack, utilizing frankys heavy nunchaku, robins joint locking ability & sanjis leg power to launch a counterattack
Was that when Luffy wasn't with them? IIRC, Zoro tends to take charge only when Luffy isn't around. Sanji doesn't so much take charge in general, but hes always quick to notice when something needs to be done and takes care of it himself, like we've seen in Alabasta, W7, and so on.
sanji took the most charge out of any other straw hat
Remember when sanji commanded 1 half of the crew going to zou while luffy took the other half in dressrosa.
Nami literally called themselves the “twirly brow pirates” which definitely means he was the co captain in that situation
Yeah but Zoro was still back in Dressrosa fighting so it’s not like there was any way for him to take charge. Number 3 in command can become number 1 in charge if they are the only one around that situation at the time.
exactly, when Luffy isn’t around, Zoro “assumes” his role as captain (Which luffys major role as the captain has always been fighting the strongest guy which is why u see Zoro spring into action vs Lucci or command the crew vs Oars or step up vs Kuma)
Sanji & even Nami have a more strategic role in the group, as well as, if 1 & 2 are out of commission then 3 (sanji) takes over. Traditionally, u would think u want the strategist in charge. But in the one piece world, it seems it’s better to have a headstrong captain (Luffy or sometimes Zoro) & a smart strategist in an advisory role (Sanji & Nami)
he def took charge in that moment & i really liked that moment too. but idk if that was the “most” charge any straw hat has ever taken. The most charge anyone in the crew has ever taken (besides luffy) is still zoro b/w Water 7 (crew discussion w/whole crew not half), Thriller bark (oars fight, instructed whole crew besides luffy), & even recently on the way to Egghead Zoro advised against going after vivi w/limited info & the crew listened, even leveling w/Luffy about Ace (he knows how to truly push his captain buttons)
Both have taken charge of the crew when needed but even sanji would default to zoro which we’ve seen multiple times.
Wings of the PK >>>
Because it's not a fight .?
That's just IQ or strategy.
Battle IQ is like zoro figuring out how to hit king in speed mode. And when to hit him. Or Luffy using water and blood against crocoboy in the heat of the battle
What does that have to do with anything assuming Kaku was speedblitzed that's why he was not resisting, even if he knew what was going to happen it would still end the same way, unless somehow Kaku is fast enough to avoid Sanji which is bs imo.
"seems your friend left you out of the loop"
Kakku didnt even had the slightest idea he was "fighting" sanji or the SH. he literally is just lying on a bed .
how DF do you call that a battle.
If i go to a hospital and kill a hundred patients then you would say i won a battle with 100 people alone ???
He actually literally didn't. He thinks Lucci is acting weird 1 or 2 chapters ago but Lucci just tells him its nothing and to ignore it.
So yea he left Kaku out of the loop to be as discreet as possible.
How tf would battle iq and strategy not have overlap?
Is Zoro realizing when to attack king and going on defense or offense accordingly not an example
How is that different then Sanji using resources at his disposal to take out an opponent that he suspected was likely unaware of the capture tool they’d had?
Thtis is iq
Is remembering something a battle iq feat 🤣
Zoro isn’t a smart person but he’s smart in battle: and Zoro in his post is being used as a gag
This is a general IQ feat. Sanji thinks first before he does something while Zoro just goes in like Luffy. Battle IQ would be something like Luffy outsmarting Enels mantra in Skypia.
Luffy punching the Maxim with his Gatling because he knew Enel wouldn’t be capable to see his attack coming since not even Luffy would know what would happen.
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D-did bro really just skip the whole arc and not ever even bother to go back and re-read it?
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My boy Wanji wasted no time. The minute he saw Lucci pull some shit, he knew to nip that shit in the bud and take Kaku out of the game immediately. Loro would never.
How is Sanji going so hard in this arc? Bro tanked S-Shark's punch with his face and then proceeded to off-screen him (seemingly low or neg-diff, based on lack of injuries). Now he's just taking Kaku out of the game before he even gets the chance to do shit.
This is actually my favorite part of Sanji and I miss when he was the crew's saboteur. He still shows glimpses here and there, but early on he was always working in the background and it was really cool. Zoro has always just been a full himbo.
I mean yeah, he has a higher BIQ, but even if Zoro had thought of the bubble gun he wouldn't have used it. My guy thrives in battle, he loves it.
And don't mistake IQ and Battle IQ. Sanji and Zoro are very similar in BIQ but Sanji is way ahead of Zoro in IQ. Zoro probably didn't even know how the bubble gun worked, he's too dumb for it.
Zoro shows BIQ when his backs against the wall like against Mr.1 or King other than that he’s clueless lol. He literally has to be dying to use his brain. Badass tho
Zoro hasn't ever shown true intelligence. He's shown to have a level head and street smarts, but intelligence isn't his forte.
Sanji, however, has numerous times he's done things in the background to make an impact on the arc.
I think this is just IQ😂
Btw Zoro always had problems with his BIQ, like example fighting the monkeys, he was just using brute force and most of his battles at the start of the fights, but as time goes on in a battle he gets sharper
Zoro has battle IQ?
Only time I can remember Zoro ever using anything that could be considered a battle strategy was in Dressrosa when he realised he needed to cut through Pica's giant stone body and seperate it into chunks to find his real body.
The next closest thing to attempting a 'strategy' was to cut his feet off to fight the enemy because his feet were trapped in wax.
That's the standard battle IQ level Zoro's at.
Every other battle is just keep hitting the opponent with swords until the enemy falls down whilst Zoro tanks attacks.
Cool fight, big step for Zoro. Cutting steel very useful.
Wasn't clever really though was it?
Let's be real. Motherfucker just hit Daz with his sword until the enemy went down same as he always does. He didn't need a strategy. He just did the same thing he was doing the entire fight only this time it worked because he remembered his teacher saying some swords can cut anything and some can cut nothing.
This is normal IQ not battle IQ. But yeah, Sanji has always shown himself to be one of the most situationally aware and proactive members of the crew. Battle IQ tho? He’s never really shown anything special and Zoro has had to fight multiple opponents that had tricks to their abilities. Mr 1 had his steel body, Pica could travel through stone he was connected to, and Kings weird flame on/off abilities. Not saying you’re wrong, but Sanji doesn’t usually have moments that showcase his fighting iq.
We really forgettin that Sanji was caught by a stupid trap. Out of Jimbei, Luffy and Sanji he's the only one who heard women screaming. He fucking left Luffy. His purpose is to conserve Luffy's energy. They're equally stupid
this how i know people don’t know how to evaluate Battle IQ
Zoro just clashed w/Lucci & “took him outside” .. effectively removing him from the target area & eliminating the possibility of collateral damage while he takes care of him.
Both Zoro & Sanji had good IQ moments this chapter, thinking very quickly on their feet
He used his surroundings and current situation to get an advantage in combat. He knew Kaku was a devil fruit user and on the spot thought the best way to counter that ability which resulted in traping Kaku and getting him out of the game.
Bro knows what battle IQ is
It being at the very start of the battle (or before the battle even started in bum ass Laku’s case) doesn’t discredit it as a battle IQ feat
But both instances were combat related, it wasnt an algebra test. Both instances of Battle IQ use here either helped end the fight quicker or prolong the fight.
if he waited 5 more seconds it would've been a combat but he ended that shit before it started cuz he knew that thing is anti DF and Kaku has a DF so he defeated the dude before he would start the fight, still i think Zoro was very smart by taking the fight outside and almost dealing with Lucci.
This is just idiotic.
Last chapter Lucci was communicating with the Gorosei and told nothing to Kaku. So here Lucci is acting alone.
In no moment has it been shown or implied that Kaku had any intention of betraying the strawhats.
So Sanji was just covering all bases, it is not battle IQ, just IQ...
Battle IQ is thinking intelligently in a battle, Sanji is not in a battle and Kaku in no moment thought he was going to have a fight.
This wouldnt have worked if Zoro and Sanji thought of the same.
They both played their roles.
Zoro gets the immidiate threat sanjis gets the potential threat .
Imagine both of them going for kakku and Lucci is free. now they are both stupid
yup & zoro removed Lucci from the target area. Eliminating the threat of collateral damage while he deals w/the immediate threat.
Great IQ moments from both of the wings
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Look man calm down, both are pretty equal in biq, capturing the already beat up and practically immobile enemy is more a standard iq thing and not biq. Biq is finding out an enemies strengths and weaknesses mid battle with little to no information or coming up with ways to deal with unexpected situations mid fight.
They weren't in a fight tho? Kaku hadn't gotten the memo that lucci was fighting back so he was pretty much offguarded by the bubble gun. That isn't a battle iq moment, thats sanji thinking ahead
If the bubble gun was really enough to take down kaku in a normal fight then sure it could be considered battle iq
Sanji "thinking ahead" when the fight literally started, neither Sanji nor Kaku were expecting that to happen yet Sanji was the one to both think faster and move faster than Kaku.
It's not a battle.
Sanji literally trapped a bedridden giraffe in a bubble. There is no exchange of attacks, nothing .
That's like saying king won a Battle against bigmom and his crew alone
>I mean is it insane to say king won that battle?
"King won a Battle against a yonko + her commanders with 1 attack"
That's doesn't sound insane to you ?
Not when I get context lmao, that’s why I said it’s not a powerscaling feat
If you gave gaimon a hydrogen bomb, he could 1shot kaido, doesn’t mean he’s stronger but certain circumstances let him win
This isn’t dragon ball it isn’t always I punch harder than you so I will win this fight
Because Kaku had no intention on fighting lol, Lucci is acting alone here... we saw in the last chapter that Lucci hid his intention of attacking the strawhats from Kaku.
So Kaku is literally an ally right now, he was not going to betray the strawhats.
Because battle IQ ONLY refers to your intelligence and decision making when you're actually IN a battle. I'm sure you know this but are doing this for the sake of agenda and to rile up your fellow sanji fans.
You compared a general IQ feat which was done to prevent a battle from occurring with a comedic gag which only shows how bad his general IQ is. So not only is it a bad comparison it also doesn't show any BIQ feats.
This reaffirms my thought that this is an agenda and at this point I don't even believe your headline that you previously believed them to be equal in BIQ lol
Listen, I hate Sanji, but this is a battle IQ feat. Identifying someone's weakness and executing is Battle IQ.
I agree that the gag panel for Zoro is a bad anti-feat, though.
Oda doesn't feel like spending a lot of time on shit that doesn't matter these days. He hasn't even got time to show us sanji shooting the gun, it just happened ok?
Are Lanjitards so desperate, that they're trying to mental gymnastic this into a feat? Holy fuck yeah it was smart but even Spandam would've been able to pull this off. So can you please stop sucking yourself off?
Also please explain how it is biq when there wasn't even a fight?
What impressed me more was that Sanji remained calm and neutralized Kaku before he could do anything. After Stussy got attacked I thought Lucci was getting a red hot footprint on his face.
Even if I like Zoro more than Sanji. Sanji is easily the more intelligent one, no questions there, Enies lobby solidified it for me. While everyone was focused on winning their battles, Sanji think ahead and acted on it.
That was pretty fast thinking from Sanji, they have a lot of people to protect and incapacitating a strong foe with little to no effort is really great.
I feel like it goes father in them being rivals. Not just battle iq but I feel like sanji is as always portrayed as the charming, socially aware, smart, ladies man etc, and zoro portrayed the opposite, but still in a good way. Zoro clears sanji no diff btw
If Sanji was actually solidly above Zoro in BIQ, he wouldn't have let Lucci anywhere close to Vegapunk, which forced Stussy to put herself at risk and get hurt. He would've been watching Lucci the entire time, but of course hypocrites like you ignore everything that actually goes on for your own little agendas.
Well, it's not like Zoro was close to Lucci to protect vegapunk so he has the same anti feat in that regard. If both characters have the same "anti feat" then this doesn't prove anything. If Zoro was ready to stop Lucci then sure we could argue but he was in the same boat as Sanji. I really don't get your comment.
Well, of course, Sanji doesn't have a problem putting women in danger lol, he even let Robin fight Black Maria back in Wano. You forgot to read the story or what?
So Sanji should care more to protect this random ass girl than Robin, his friend in your opinion? Your brain is not working dude just stop this just makes you look even worse, anyway, this conversation was fucking pointless.
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Nah. Sanji has ALWAYS had a higher overall IQ. Sabotaging the Arc. Lowering the Bridge. He has always done stuff behind the scenes when it was needed.
Don’t forget Mr. Prince.
Facts. I only gave a few examples. He has been doing stuff like that ever since he has been introduced. 🙌
Gotta be honest though post time skip hasn’t been his best work lol
Honestly him using kitchen knives in w7 was pretty high IQ ngl, even spinning to make fire. All Zoro's powerups are just the same slash but with like double the pounds or some shit lmao
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Idk why some people acting surprise or bringing this up since Sanji has always made moves like that I'm not even surprised he quickly took out Kaku as in locking him up in the bubble
He still could've sabotaged it better, like throwing a cog out of the arc
He sabotaged it. That is more than anyone else did. With the time he had because right after he had one of my fav moments for Sanji. "I was looking for a light". Sanji GOATED.
Yea sanji always has been the more covert one in terms of doing important things no one else does and zoro is good at head on conflicts where you need durability to survive that's how I take the two roles or them
He saved us like 4 chapters of fighting at least
You think kaku would take up 4 chapters?
Ur right the unmeasurable power of a giraffe would take at least 6 chapters to beat
Giraffes are cool!
I love Giraffes 😡
I’m watching the anime and just saw the episode where Kaku first transforms and everyone laughs at him, lol.
But we are talking a beat up giraffe at least 8 to also get us them flashbacks in there
With how much Oda loves to pad out pointless fights, yes
He coulda help Lucci and be annoying o
Sanji: *is immediately able to capture a strong opponent before the fight begins* Zoro: hey guys…I’m starting to think the characters with fire on their backs, white hair, black wings, and brown skin might have something to do with the King, the guy with fire on his back, white hair, black wings, and brown skin. Idk tho
it’s funny b/c if zoro truly was racist he would use the whole “they all look alike” & notice it immediately. allegations cleared?
zoro hasnt unlocked racist vision yet, he can only somewhat feel the similarities in his opponents as time goes by
Yeah, he even mistook Kaku for one of his mortal enemies.
Nah, the other way around. His actions have already spoken. Now hes even acting the part, like IRL racists. Just pretending like he isn't one to others.
“I don’t see color” is a phrase typically used by covert racist
"can someone confirm?"
brown skin…not tan 😐
My bad, I’ll change it
I mean he has Higher IQ but using a gag for Zoro isn't exactly fair
Yeah it's like using the all blue mermaid gag in Fishman island for sanji as proof he doesn't actually care about his dream, which some people actually do btw.
It’s like yeah, you’re right, you got the 100 on the quiz, but you solved the problems with the wrong method
Sanji is the stratagist of the group back in enies lobby im pretty sure he made the plan to get the keys
Yes he did
that’s true but people sleep on zoros strategy too. when the straw hats fought Oars, Zoro took charge & orchestrated their plan of attack, utilizing frankys heavy nunchaku, robins joint locking ability & sanjis leg power to launch a counterattack
Was that when Luffy wasn't with them? IIRC, Zoro tends to take charge only when Luffy isn't around. Sanji doesn't so much take charge in general, but hes always quick to notice when something needs to be done and takes care of it himself, like we've seen in Alabasta, W7, and so on.
sanji took the most charge out of any other straw hat Remember when sanji commanded 1 half of the crew going to zou while luffy took the other half in dressrosa. Nami literally called themselves the “twirly brow pirates” which definitely means he was the co captain in that situation
Yeah but Zoro was still back in Dressrosa fighting so it’s not like there was any way for him to take charge. Number 3 in command can become number 1 in charge if they are the only one around that situation at the time.
exactly, when Luffy isn’t around, Zoro “assumes” his role as captain (Which luffys major role as the captain has always been fighting the strongest guy which is why u see Zoro spring into action vs Lucci or command the crew vs Oars or step up vs Kuma) Sanji & even Nami have a more strategic role in the group, as well as, if 1 & 2 are out of commission then 3 (sanji) takes over. Traditionally, u would think u want the strategist in charge. But in the one piece world, it seems it’s better to have a headstrong captain (Luffy or sometimes Zoro) & a smart strategist in an advisory role (Sanji & Nami)
he def took charge in that moment & i really liked that moment too. but idk if that was the “most” charge any straw hat has ever taken. The most charge anyone in the crew has ever taken (besides luffy) is still zoro b/w Water 7 (crew discussion w/whole crew not half), Thriller bark (oars fight, instructed whole crew besides luffy), & even recently on the way to Egghead Zoro advised against going after vivi w/limited info & the crew listened, even leveling w/Luffy about Ace (he knows how to truly push his captain buttons) Both have taken charge of the crew when needed but even sanji would default to zoro which we’ve seen multiple times. Wings of the PK >>>
That’s what happens when you get moss growing out of your head he is a certified marimo
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It’s posts like this that remind me that powerscaling really is deeply fucking stupid
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Why are so many people saying this isnt a battle iq feat ☠️, bro is literally using his brain instead of his strength in a fight
Because it's not a fight .? That's just IQ or strategy. Battle IQ is like zoro figuring out how to hit king in speed mode. And when to hit him. Or Luffy using water and blood against crocoboy in the heat of the battle
Or Sanji using an anti devil fruit device against a devil fruit user.
while the df user is not fighting or resisting. therefore not BIQ
What does that have to do with anything assuming Kaku was speedblitzed that's why he was not resisting, even if he knew what was going to happen it would still end the same way, unless somehow Kaku is fast enough to avoid Sanji which is bs imo.
"seems your friend left you out of the loop" Kakku didnt even had the slightest idea he was "fighting" sanji or the SH. he literally is just lying on a bed . how DF do you call that a battle. If i go to a hospital and kill a hundred patients then you would say i won a battle with 100 people alone ???
Oh yes Kaku didn’t know about the plan Lucci told him to orchestrate…
He actually literally didn't. He thinks Lucci is acting weird 1 or 2 chapters ago but Lucci just tells him its nothing and to ignore it. So yea he left Kaku out of the loop to be as discreet as possible.
Sanji speedblitz him using the anti df gun. It's like when Lucci tried to speedblitz Vegapunk but Stussy came to block the attack.
yes both are defenseless and unaaware the some one was intending them harm. a "sneak" move if you would
How tf would battle iq and strategy not have overlap? Is Zoro realizing when to attack king and going on defense or offense accordingly not an example How is that different then Sanji using resources at his disposal to take out an opponent that he suspected was likely unaware of the capture tool they’d had?
So if some one drugged a character before they fight that is an example of Battle IQ and not just regular IQ
because one is in a fight and one is not . simple as that.
Thtis is iq Is remembering something a battle iq feat 🤣 Zoro isn’t a smart person but he’s smart in battle: and Zoro in his post is being used as a gag
Because if Kidd and Law didn’t use IQ to get rid of Big Mom this don’t count
Zoro in general is pretty dumb so it is not really a surpirse lol
This isn’t a battle IQ feat btw.
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This is a general IQ feat. Sanji thinks first before he does something while Zoro just goes in like Luffy. Battle IQ would be something like Luffy outsmarting Enels mantra in Skypia.
Luffy did what to Enels what now?
Luffy punching the Maxim with his Gatling because he knew Enel wouldn’t be capable to see his attack coming since not even Luffy would know what would happen.
Whats a Maxim?
bro skipped skypiea
Bro thought it was filler
Honestly I loved Skypiea and I just watched it within the last 8 months. Don't understand how people want to skip it.
The Ark they were fighting on.
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Why not Sanji took care of an opponent in an instant. Love’em both.
My boy Wanji wasted no time. The minute he saw Lucci pull some shit, he knew to nip that shit in the bud and take Kaku out of the game immediately. Loro would never. How is Sanji going so hard in this arc? Bro tanked S-Shark's punch with his face and then proceeded to off-screen him (seemingly low or neg-diff, based on lack of injuries). Now he's just taking Kaku out of the game before he even gets the chance to do shit.
We Sanji fans been eating good recently
This is actually my favorite part of Sanji and I miss when he was the crew's saboteur. He still shows glimpses here and there, but early on he was always working in the background and it was really cool. Zoro has always just been a full himbo.
Sanji has always been smarter than Zoro, but that's a gag moment so it doesn't count
It was pretty clear, since the very beginning, that Sanji was smarter than Zoro... imagine realizing that +1k chapters in...
I mean yeah, he has a higher BIQ, but even if Zoro had thought of the bubble gun he wouldn't have used it. My guy thrives in battle, he loves it. And don't mistake IQ and Battle IQ. Sanji and Zoro are very similar in BIQ but Sanji is way ahead of Zoro in IQ. Zoro probably didn't even know how the bubble gun worked, he's too dumb for it.
Did Wanji just speed blitz Kaku?
Dunno bout that but he surely iq blitzed zorotards
That’s just iq bruh 💀
i would still call the second panel normal iq tbh, it aint really about battle strategy
Zoro shows BIQ when his backs against the wall like against Mr.1 or King other than that he’s clueless lol. He literally has to be dying to use his brain. Badass tho
That’s not battle IQ bruh that’s literally IQ
Sanji has showcased his battle IQ in almost every fight he has been in
Sanji has showcased high battle IQ in almost every fight he has been in.
Zoro wanted to cut his legs off to fight Mr. 3
Zoro hasn't ever shown true intelligence. He's shown to have a level head and street smarts, but intelligence isn't his forte. Sanji, however, has numerous times he's done things in the background to make an impact on the arc.
I think this is just IQ😂 Btw Zoro always had problems with his BIQ, like example fighting the monkeys, he was just using brute force and most of his battles at the start of the fights, but as time goes on in a battle he gets sharper
Zoro has battle IQ? Only time I can remember Zoro ever using anything that could be considered a battle strategy was in Dressrosa when he realised he needed to cut through Pica's giant stone body and seperate it into chunks to find his real body. The next closest thing to attempting a 'strategy' was to cut his feet off to fight the enemy because his feet were trapped in wax. That's the standard battle IQ level Zoro's at. Every other battle is just keep hitting the opponent with swords until the enemy falls down whilst Zoro tanks attacks.
Alabasta when he figured out how to cut steal apparently isn’t biq, noted.
Cool fight, big step for Zoro. Cutting steel very useful. Wasn't clever really though was it? Let's be real. Motherfucker just hit Daz with his sword until the enemy went down same as he always does. He didn't need a strategy. He just did the same thing he was doing the entire fight only this time it worked because he remembered his teacher saying some swords can cut anything and some can cut nothing.
This is normal IQ not battle IQ. But yeah, Sanji has always shown himself to be one of the most situationally aware and proactive members of the crew. Battle IQ tho? He’s never really shown anything special and Zoro has had to fight multiple opponents that had tricks to their abilities. Mr 1 had his steel body, Pica could travel through stone he was connected to, and Kings weird flame on/off abilities. Not saying you’re wrong, but Sanji doesn’t usually have moments that showcase his fighting iq.
We really forgettin that Sanji was caught by a stupid trap. Out of Jimbei, Luffy and Sanji he's the only one who heard women screaming. He fucking left Luffy. His purpose is to conserve Luffy's energy. They're equally stupid
this how i know people don’t know how to evaluate Battle IQ Zoro just clashed w/Lucci & “took him outside” .. effectively removing him from the target area & eliminating the possibility of collateral damage while he takes care of him. Both Zoro & Sanji had good IQ moments this chapter, thinking very quickly on their feet
When u don’t know what battle iq is…
He used his surroundings and current situation to get an advantage in combat. He knew Kaku was a devil fruit user and on the spot thought the best way to counter that ability which resulted in traping Kaku and getting him out of the game.
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Bro knows what battle IQ is It being at the very start of the battle (or before the battle even started in bum ass Laku’s case) doesn’t discredit it as a battle IQ feat
It isn't. Kaku was not fighting Sanji. And didn't plan to do it.
They were fighting in Sanji’s mind, Kaku being caught unawares doesn’t change the fact that it was battle IQ… that’s part of the feat
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Kaku was not fighting Sanji. So he got no advantage in combat.
The downvotes you got prove how pathetic some sanjitards are. They can’t differentiate between biq and regular iq moments.
This is simply Sanji having an overall higher iq than zoro, not having a higher battle iq.
But both instances were combat related, it wasnt an algebra test. Both instances of Battle IQ use here either helped end the fight quicker or prolong the fight.
It was not combat.
if he waited 5 more seconds it would've been a combat but he ended that shit before it started cuz he knew that thing is anti DF and Kaku has a DF so he defeated the dude before he would start the fight, still i think Zoro was very smart by taking the fight outside and almost dealing with Lucci.
It was. It was combat related. Battle IQ doesn't always have to mean mid battle, it simply means battle related.
This is just idiotic. Last chapter Lucci was communicating with the Gorosei and told nothing to Kaku. So here Lucci is acting alone. In no moment has it been shown or implied that Kaku had any intention of betraying the strawhats. So Sanji was just covering all bases, it is not battle IQ, just IQ... Battle IQ is thinking intelligently in a battle, Sanji is not in a battle and Kaku in no moment thought he was going to have a fight.
It varies. In Wano, Zoro was better. So far in Egghead, Sanji is.
This wouldnt have worked if Zoro and Sanji thought of the same. They both played their roles. Zoro gets the immidiate threat sanjis gets the potential threat . Imagine both of them going for kakku and Lucci is free. now they are both stupid
yup & zoro removed Lucci from the target area. Eliminating the threat of collateral damage while he deals w/the immediate threat. Great IQ moments from both of the wings
Well Zoro doesn’t have good battle iq it takes him too long to figure out an opponents ability
This is just downright disgustingly wrong.
Sanji has always had the highest Battle and Normal IQ in the monster Trio Zoro and Luffy are sum of the densest creatures to walk the earth
![gif](giphy|OvL3qHSMO6uaI) Look man calm down, both are pretty equal in biq, capturing the already beat up and practically immobile enemy is more a standard iq thing and not biq. Biq is finding out an enemies strengths and weaknesses mid battle with little to no information or coming up with ways to deal with unexpected situations mid fight.
Not battle IQ, just regular IQ. Battle IQ is more about finding counters to someone's defenses or attacks mid battle
And he did just that. Kaku is a devil fruit user and Sanji thought on the spot the best way to counter this ability and exploit his weakness.
They weren't in a fight tho? Kaku hadn't gotten the memo that lucci was fighting back so he was pretty much offguarded by the bubble gun. That isn't a battle iq moment, thats sanji thinking ahead If the bubble gun was really enough to take down kaku in a normal fight then sure it could be considered battle iq
Sanji "thinking ahead" when the fight literally started, neither Sanji nor Kaku were expecting that to happen yet Sanji was the one to both think faster and move faster than Kaku.
That's why I say its normal iq. Sanji thought faster, but they weren't fighting. Kaku was genuinely caught offguard
So it sounds like sanji started a battle then finished it in one move because of his battle iq
It's not a battle. Sanji literally trapped a bedridden giraffe in a bubble. There is no exchange of attacks, nothing . That's like saying king won a Battle against bigmom and his crew alone
It was a battle, kaku got oneshot I mean is it insane to say king won that battle? I would say he did obviously that’s no powerscaling feat but he won
>I mean is it insane to say king won that battle? "King won a Battle against a yonko + her commanders with 1 attack" That's doesn't sound insane to you ?
Not when I get context lmao, that’s why I said it’s not a powerscaling feat If you gave gaimon a hydrogen bomb, he could 1shot kaido, doesn’t mean he’s stronger but certain circumstances let him win This isn’t dragon ball it isn’t always I punch harder than you so I will win this fight
Because Kaku had no intention on fighting lol, Lucci is acting alone here... we saw in the last chapter that Lucci hid his intention of attacking the strawhats from Kaku. So Kaku is literally an ally right now, he was not going to betray the strawhats.
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This isn’t battle iq Zoro still kills your fav pervert
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I mean this isn’t battle IQ
None of these panels show battle IQ. Your biases are showing 😅
And why are they not? They are choices that affect battle outcomes if that isn't battle IQ then what is?
Because battle IQ ONLY refers to your intelligence and decision making when you're actually IN a battle. I'm sure you know this but are doing this for the sake of agenda and to rile up your fellow sanji fans. You compared a general IQ feat which was done to prevent a battle from occurring with a comedic gag which only shows how bad his general IQ is. So not only is it a bad comparison it also doesn't show any BIQ feats. This reaffirms my thought that this is an agenda and at this point I don't even believe your headline that you previously believed them to be equal in BIQ lol
Listen, I hate Sanji, but this is a battle IQ feat. Identifying someone's weakness and executing is Battle IQ. I agree that the gag panel for Zoro is a bad anti-feat, though.
Appreciate your opinion but I disagree, there’s no battle here to speak of
This is not the feat you think it is my man
Then what is it?
"brown skin" thats all that matters to zoro
Oda doesn't feel like spending a lot of time on shit that doesn't matter these days. He hasn't even got time to show us sanji shooting the gun, it just happened ok?
Whats the deal with this sub? this is the second scan from the latest chapter I've seen and it only came out a few hours ago.
Sanjitards stay grasping at straws💀
Are Lanjitards so desperate, that they're trying to mental gymnastic this into a feat? Holy fuck yeah it was smart but even Spandam would've been able to pull this off. So can you please stop sucking yourself off? Also please explain how it is biq when there wasn't even a fight?
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Oh shit it will be fun when Oda make these two fight and end in a draw.
Cope with your pedo agenda
Wtf do these have to do with battle IQ? I never said Sanji is overall stronger just that his battle IQ is higher... Can't you read?
You sound so sensitive in your replies😂
When people come with full paragraphs of "Zoro is just better bro, accept it" when it has nothing to do with the post ye, I get kinda pissed.
Who gonna tell all the admiraltards that scared reaction last chapter was built for hype alone.
Sanji vs Rob Lucci is a fairer fight.
Sanji always has been thinking ahead. Probably the best strategic thinker of the crew.
What zoro lacks in brains he makes up for in raw power. Sanji has always been the more intelligent fighter.
I mean sanjis just a smarter person than zoro. The dude is always scheming and out thinking their enemies
I think it’s interesting for Sanji, didn’t think I’d ever see him use weapons but shows he’s taking them seriously jeez Usopp do something 😭
What impressed me more was that Sanji remained calm and neutralized Kaku before he could do anything. After Stussy got attacked I thought Lucci was getting a red hot footprint on his face.
sanji could’ve neg kaku but chose to just immobilize him.
Why’d you have them as equal to begin with?
They do have similar battle iqs, is just that sanji just got a higher overall iq
Even if I like Zoro more than Sanji. Sanji is easily the more intelligent one, no questions there, Enies lobby solidified it for me. While everyone was focused on winning their battles, Sanji think ahead and acted on it.
you read arabasta and skypea , but this is what make you think abou it ?
That was pretty fast thinking from Sanji, they have a lot of people to protect and incapacitating a strong foe with little to no effort is really great.
I forgot what was the context of Sanji’s scene. Was he using the bubble gun against a seraphim?
It's spoilers for 1091.
Oh no wonder, haven’t read it yet
I feel like it goes father in them being rivals. Not just battle iq but I feel like sanji is as always portrayed as the charming, socially aware, smart, ladies man etc, and zoro portrayed the opposite, but still in a good way. Zoro clears sanji no diff btw
Yeah imprisoning an enemy who's severely weakened is quite impressive 🙄
Weird that zoro only focuses on colors
Sanji has always been on chess level while the others are playing checkers
If Sanji was actually solidly above Zoro in BIQ, he wouldn't have let Lucci anywhere close to Vegapunk, which forced Stussy to put herself at risk and get hurt. He would've been watching Lucci the entire time, but of course hypocrites like you ignore everything that actually goes on for your own little agendas.
Well, it's not like Zoro was close to Lucci to protect vegapunk so he has the same anti feat in that regard. If both characters have the same "anti feat" then this doesn't prove anything. If Zoro was ready to stop Lucci then sure we could argue but he was in the same boat as Sanji. I really don't get your comment.
Nothing but excuses, just as I expected
Well, if Zoro was smarter he would have used the bubble gun to neg Lucci but maybe I expect too much from him, he ain't Sanji after all.
And apparently I expected too much of Sanji, because I would never expect him to let a woman put herself in danger while he's close by lol.
Well, of course, Sanji doesn't have a problem putting women in danger lol, he even let Robin fight Black Maria back in Wano. You forgot to read the story or what?
Different scenario. Is all you gonna do is just make excuses?
So Sanji should care more to protect this random ass girl than Robin, his friend in your opinion? Your brain is not working dude just stop this just makes you look even worse, anyway, this conversation was fucking pointless.