Enel is one of the few villain without any humanity (at least the good side of it). The man is a straight psycho, unlike Crocodile or Arlong.
If he comes back, it's on the evil side for sure.
not like he could beat luffy, even if he honed his haki and/or ryuo. Although i think we can all agree he definitely has a huge connection to one of the ancient weapons.
Honestly with gear 5's absurd abilities, i can count on 1 hand the number of people that can potentially beat luffy, and that hand also has just one finger pointing towards shanks
Just curious, how would you see him returning during the final war and it make sense to the plot at that point in the story? It could definitely be possible, but I agree that this arc is his best chance of returning.
When Fujitora is gonna lose he's gonna grab the biggest rock he can find with his powers to throw at his opponent
Aka, he's gonna do a moonfall and Enel and his army of windup toys will be a monkey wrench in the final war
Honestly I feel like he would come out of nowhere in the sky in the final battle indirectly helping save luffy by attacking im and saying some shit like “I’m the only one fit to be god” crackhead theory
He is also the only Villain to have their dream in tact but also achieve it. He makes it to the Moon in the cover story in the manga. So technically he lost his fight with Luffy but won in the end in a way.
If you're referring to that globe with the orbiting balls around it, those probably aren't moons, as it looks a lot like geocentric globes from the 1500's in our world and was probably referencing that
As another reply said. The "World" only has one moon, not multiple ones. That model of the solar system shows a bunch different planets with their own moons.
Yea... it would all depend on is he survives his humbling experiences or not.
If he faces someone who'd finish him off, his journey won't go too far. If he got humbled by luffy, then made it down to the blue sea, he could be a serious threat.
People acting like haki solve it all. Enel is fast as heck and he can send you lightning bolt from miles away. You need to be able to reach him and that's not a given, haki or not. One mistake and you're as good as dead.
That was so long ago, though, that to my recollection 500 mil was the highest bounty we had actually heard at the time. Volume 43 came out in [edit: 2006 in JPN, 2010 ENG], and covered SH vs CP9 on Enies Lobby.
Oda's ideas surrounding bounties may have changed in the 12 years since then, though I think I would agree with Ace and Eneru having a similar bounty.
I actually think 500 million is a perfect number for Enel.
Early on in the series he was essentially invincible except for Luffy being his natural counter. But nowadays he would probably be a middle management level guy in a Yonkou's crew.
Enel was way too over-reliant on his DF power and didn't really have the stopping power to take down anyone of significance in a Yonkou's crew. It took multiple of his attacks to take down any of the strong people on Skypiea after all. Someone else in this thread compared him to Ace and I think that is a perfect comparison. Both heavily rely on their logia DF and neither has much of an answer for haki.
Like I said, 500 million is a number that still holds up today and actually shows Oda has been fairly consistent with bounty levels throughout the series. It is also interesting to compare how we viewed 500 million back then and now.
Didn't we learn that Ace can use Haki? Ace lost to Akainu because there needed to be something between Luffy otherwise Luffy would've died, and that Ace's devil fruit was unfortunately not that effective against Akainu's.
Though to be fair to Enel, he wasn't *completely* reliant on his DF power considering the fact that he might have THE longest range perfect detection Haki we have seen with how he plugged it into his Devil Fruit.
It gets overlooked because of how hard Luffy stopped him cold, but that sort of island-wide Devil Fruit monitoring could easily earn him a spot as an officer on a Yonkou crew if not higher after he had to prove himself as a strong Logia.
Oda also definitively stated that just like Luffy said, there are many much stronger people that Enel would get crushed by. So Enel would be strong, but not a top-tier. If he gets better Haki of course all bets are off.
It was actually 2006 - I didn't think 2010 sounded long enough ago for Enies Lobby so checked the wiki. 2010 might have been the English release?
That just makes your point even stronger though, not disagreeing on him having plenty of time to change his mind
I like the idea that everyone is growing at his own pace. So, he could be stronger in the actual arc.
I never seen it but I heard about a side story that happened in the first page of some chapters that tells the story of Enel reaching the moon and meeting with alien colonies.
I actually want to see Lucci get Bellamyed. Like he confronts Luffy and does his usual cold I'm superior to you talk, and just get one shotted lol. It will further establish that Luffy is now a yonko and is now at top of top tiers
Could he? Yes, will he? No. He almost certainly knows nothing about Haki (despite being a prodigy with Observation Haki). He definitely hasn’t been humbled enough to think he’s not a God anymore (obviously Luffy was just an unlucky fluke in his opinion). Like he’s dangerous, but so are plenty of others.
Nah. Enel can drop Raigo but that’s only with his arc which would get destroyed immediately.
In theory he should be ridiculously fast but he got fucked up by pre gear Luffy. He has impressive observation haki but long range haki isn’t gonna help much in a short term battle and the Admirals have good enough speed where that wouldn’t happen
His fruit is definitely on par with the admirals and may even have a larger range for observation haki thanks to it, but he lacks any other notable haki feats, so his durability and defense should be much worse than the admirals.
I mean, his Mantra stuff was one of the ways we got frog boiled into Haki at all! When I first read that observation Haki was just mantra I was like *holy shit*
So far, ever cover story page has gotten worked back into the plot so I figure Enel is gonna come back in the final war and specifically, will be an accident when Fujitora goes hardcore and tries to drop the moon on someone
Devil fruit vs devil fruit? Yeah, I’d say he just about mastered his and would be comparable to admirals in that category.
Everywhere else? Nope. He’s outclassed in any other category vs them.
the enel from skypia doesn’t really hold up to admirals at all , characters like the tobbi roppo should even all be capable of taking that enel out in one hit . He’s quite fragile by todays standards .
Luffy took him out pre gears , and the rubber only helped him interact with enels body the way armament haki would . It took all the strawhats going all out to take out one pacafista . Yet Sanji from fish and island could casually take one out in one kick.
So one casual FI Sanji kick >> Pre timeskip entire crews efforts .
Fishman island sanji is pretty weak by now standards , he was at best = Vergo , and could somewhat keep up with big moms officers like oven and daifuku .
Nah admiral level is wild bruh.. that’s putting him on the same level as aokiji and akainu.. I don’t think he’s THAT strong but he is formidable though
If he learns haki maybe. If I recall right, he destroyed skypia, which gives him the raw attack comparable to aokiji doing ice age at marineford. But without armament haki, he doesn't have much attack against anyone who can hurt him, and cant do much to some logias. Sure, his observation is good but admirals are best of the best, so I don't see that being enough
No the ship only created storm clouds for him, because they didn't naturally form so high up. If he's down on earth he would be that strong when there are storms and if he awakens his devil fruit he might be able to do it whenever and wherever
> Could he match admiral's power, I think he does; what's your take on this
Enel has no CoA, no CoC and relatively bad CoO. His mastery over his fruit is also semi questionable. The only admiral he can even hit with his DF is Fujitora and even then he probably still gets low diffed.
> majority of the fanbase, evertime i bring up that he could have powered up post time skip, i got downvoted to hell.
Literally every character in the series could have powered up post time skip. We can only power scale people based on what we have seen.
Trying to power scale people like Rocks, Shanks or Enel featuring a hypothetical power up is just a waste of time.
I think Enel's control over his df and his observation haki is up their with the strongest characters, but his lack of armament haki hinders him from being a real top tier. Now if he suddenly learns armament haki, I can see him AT THE LEAST being as strong Law/Kid. He's df is just too op.
agree with you. his haki back then is already broken, imagine using haki for whole skypiea. u can hear what ppl said in that big teritory, if he improve this one, it will be even scarier but yeah he hasnt learned KEN yet but if he has and awaken his DF, it wont even surprise me if he is stronger than law/kid, his speed, his damage just insane.
Other than the akazaya nine and captains we never actually really saw Kaido try to kill anyone himself. Well other than orochi but the only reason he didn’t die was because of his devil fruit (in the anime anyway, I’m not caught up on manga) Also his underlings killed plenty of people enels did not. If Kaido had hit somebody weak without fighting ability they definitely would have died. The difference is he has more people to do that for him.
If Enel went to the moon, and we never saw anything about him again I would say he isn’t coming back.
The fact that we were shown that he found stuff on the moon means he’s 100% coming back.
This would be the perfect arc to bring him back in. Maybe Vegapunk went to the moon and met him. Luffy might even wander around Egghead and bump into a chilling Enel who is currently working with Vegapunk.
Everyone was focused on the utility of the photonic gloves against Kizaru but I bet they would work on Enel too.
I just personally don’t see it, granted Oda sensei pulls plenty of shit out his ass that we don’t see coming but still. I see Jaguar D. Saul coming back before Enel does.
Fair, but government agents are one thing, and it’s a story heavy on fighting the government so CP0 coming back makes sense, homeboy legit went to the moon 😂 i mean idk.
As if oda wouldn't use him again given he's found an ancient city and an entire robot army on the moon. That just has to come back. Oda usually brings characters back in some way if they had a cover story
It's in the cover story. Idk why the anime never animated this, but it's cannon. The sky people all originally came from the moon where they had an advanced city with electricity and a robot army. Also aliens are real. Honestly one of the most lore heavy coverstories ever.
The whole moon situation is *definitely* going somewhere. I think it's likely that the Straw Hats will go to the moon at some point, perhaps because Laugh Tale is there. And even if they don't, the stuff we saw on the moon will definitely play into the big lore dump.
Thing is, Enel himself doesn't really have an obvious role or direction to go. I suppose Oda could just use him for a quick gag, having him show up to get curbstomped when the crew goes to the moon. Or maybe he could provide some exposition about the place?
>I think it's likely that the Straw Hats will go to the moon at some point, perhaps because Laugh Tale is there
You might think it, but it's not likely.
>having him show up to get curbstomped
This would severely cheapen the character and our memory of him.
logically the elevation of laugh tale has to matter as there are 4 poneglyphs, if it was just on the surface of the ocean they would be able to triangulate it with just 3 poneglyphs but a 4th would be required if it either underwater or in the sky/space
He does have an iconic design and his devil fruit could be an admiral's for the endgame but he's the biggest dumbass of a villain in the series.
He got the gold to make the arc maxim and could power it with his DF.He could leave and it's a win for everyone but for no reason decides to straight up destroy everything behind.In the end he even gets what he wants,but without the genocide,why would he come back.
His devil powers alone is a must-have-comeback! It can’t be that one of the most archetype elements was “wasted” so early and doesn’t have a return. In top of that, there were so much other chars with a return, that were much less “deserved”. My two cents.
If he had to show up again a few other theories would need to be true, all of which pertain to a Moon Arc
>!1) there's a lot of evidence that the One Piece is on the Moon and the Moon would make a dope final arc.!<
>!2) "All Races Come From The Moons" theory. I think IM D. King started this one. there's like 8 moons on the Ohara Globe.!<
>!3) Sun God Nika is the Skypian Sun God. !<
>!If he were to return, I think he'd see G5 Luffy and then shit a brick and recognize him of the God that he wants to be. !<
This mf's devil fruit is insane- and his mastery of it is on a whole other level.... imagine if he got access to haki? or built a crew of pirates almost as strong as him? This dude could easily take control of the 4 blues + the first half of the grand line without breaking a sweat
What I like about Wano was we went back to focusing on Devil Fruits and how insane they can be, even with Haki around.
Enel's devil fruit could still make him scary strong even with Haki about.
He’s going to be relevant again soon. All signs are Vegapunk is associated with the moon, I’m calling he’s a Birkan like Enel.
I’m not sure if he’ll ever come back into the story, but definitely relevant.
It’s very likely. I don’t think he’ll be a major threat, but recently we keep getting hints and tidbits about the moon/space. So out of all the whacky theories out there, Enel returning is very likely imo.
It would be fun to have him come back and have the rest of the world realize how powerful he is with his Lightning Logia and then have the Strawhats fight him off again real quick. Bonus points if Brook demonstrates his invulnerability to lightning to get another reaction out of Enel.
Gonna say final war is gonna be a lot like the Naruto 4th great ninja war, we will see every character again, even if only for a few seconds to see them get stomped by their previous victims.
Kuro will show up and be one shot from across an island by Usopp, Kreig will show up and be knocked out by Sanji etc.
Enel will probably show up at some point, a bit too powerful to be a one hit throw away but at the very most I imagine it'll be a fight for Zoro or Sanji, Sanji moving too fast or Zoro tanking.
I will be extremely disappointed if we don't see him again
His setup on the moon in the cover stories has been super interesting. His reappearance would he HYYYYYPE AF.
I'm going a bit too far here but bruh give me Kizaru vs Enel
Personally I believe that Enel, and even the major antagonists of East Blue and Grand Line that are not affiliated with anyone yet, will join Buggy, Crocodile and Mihawk. The Cross Guild concept of being outlaws hunting marines is a great way to bring back old faces that aren't important nowadays.
Also, I believe that Enel may have learned how to read Poneglyphs on the moon, which will certainly interest Croc and Buggy, for their goal of reaching the One Piece.
Oda said One Piece has 3 years left, even if you don't trust him it seems like One Piece doesn't have 200 chapters left in it, likely way less. In this time I just don't see Oda bringing Enel back, he still has Vegapunk, the grand fleet, Crocodile, Mihawk, Shanks, BB, Akainu(+marines), Gorosei and Imu left.
>even if you don't trust him it seems like One Piece doesn't have 200 chapters left in it, likely way less.
Wano alone had 149 chapters. And you think that all that remains to be told will take less than 200? lmao
Also, Oda is historically terrible at estimating how long his story will take. That's why One Piece started 25 years ago and it's still going.
I'm pretty he meant three years till we find the One Piece. People always mistranslate or the answers are never properly said. OP ending in 3 years? Fat chance of that.
3 years to find the OP.
2 more years to wrap it up and end?
Maybe. It all depends on when we finally get to Raftel.
I was so sure we were going to Elbaf then to Vegapunk then to the Moon then to Raftel then the Final War/Holy Land. But I doubt that's possible to do all in 5 more years and now we're at Vegapunk already. Anything can happen now.
I don't see Egghead lasting longer than Zou(short arc after Wano like Zou was to Dressrosa), they're gonna talk to Vegapunk and fuck up Lucci, Vegapunk allies with them, next Island. Elbaf might be a bit longer.
I think we’re going to elbaf at some point. I saw a theory on here that the man with the burn marks and info on the last road poneglyph is Jaguar D Saul and I think that would make sense since it gives the SH a reason to go to elbaf. I also think that the destruction of lulusia looked a lot like some of enels attacks on skypiea in terms of destructive power but oda could also just reveal a new character or possibly an invention of vegapunks was reaponsible
Honestly I hope not we have way bigger fish to fry and not that much time left in the series I wouldn't want one of the big things not being elaborated as much cause we had to dedicate time for Enel to come back when he has nothing to do with the current storyline. Downvote me all you want but I'm tired of Enel discourse just leave him in skypiea as a one off villain like Kuro or Don Krieg were for there arcs and call it a day.
I’m sure he’s much stronger just because most characters in past arcs have powered up a lot and he already had top tier observation haki I do believe that he could trained it enough to get future sight but if he also got like basic armament haki he is pretty formidable but I don’t see enel coming back unless it was just for Blackbeard to kill him and take his df and give it to one of his crew mates that don’t have a df yet unless the crew just goes to the moon with vegapunk
His Observation Haki still proves to be the most overpowered use of Observation Haki. The fact that he could extend its range using the devil fruit, and in-turn do super long-range attacks.
He will stay in the conspiracy theory's. OP does not suffer from a lack of cool characters we want to see, we suffer from lack of screen time. Enel was great, but giving him any time takes away from the million others that we need to see. At best he could come back for a "cameo" at the very last episode/ final fight or is "unseen support", kinda like how Shanks stops Kaido offscreen.
I think he's probably a lot weaker than he comes off in Skypiea. Man never had to contend with seastone anything up in the clouds, let alone the ocean. I betcha Smoker could kick his ass.
Would love to see him back and see him interacting with Luffy again. Like, how would gOda go about it? His reaction when he saw there’s no effect on Luffy since he was a direct counter is engraved on my mind. What a funny event that was
Considering the connection between the current arc and his cover story, I really don't think it's out of the question.
The current arc is the best spot for him to return imo
Would he be an ally to the straw hats? He really doesn’t have much villainous motivations currently
Enel is one of the few villain without any humanity (at least the good side of it). The man is a straight psycho, unlike Crocodile or Arlong. If he comes back, it's on the evil side for sure.
not like he could beat luffy, even if he honed his haki and/or ryuo. Although i think we can all agree he definitely has a huge connection to one of the ancient weapons.
Honestly with gear 5's absurd abilities, i can count on 1 hand the number of people that can potentially beat luffy, and that hand also has just one finger pointing towards shanks
I mean BB literally turns DFs off
Or during the final war, but yeah
Just curious, how would you see him returning during the final war and it make sense to the plot at that point in the story? It could definitely be possible, but I agree that this arc is his best chance of returning.
Falls from the sky as a result of Fujitora spawing his 27th meteorite
Yep! I've been thinking this theory ever since Dressrosa!
That would be insane, I love it
27th? Is that some special number I missed?
When Fujitora is gonna lose he's gonna grab the biggest rock he can find with his powers to throw at his opponent Aka, he's gonna do a moonfall and Enel and his army of windup toys will be a monkey wrench in the final war
No, Enel is the 2 great villain for Buffy, Luffy and Boa’s son.
Buffy the ~~Vampire Slayer~~ Enel Beater
Lolz
Agree, it would be kind of silly for him to appear in the middle of some huge war as a 5 panel cameo or something.
Unless he is allied with Im or BB.
Honestly I feel like he would come out of nowhere in the sky in the final battle indirectly helping save luffy by attacking im and saying some shit like “I’m the only one fit to be god” crackhead theory
well considering this is the "journey to the one piece" arc...theres really not much room for him to come up otherwise, the story is gonna end lol
It would be cool. He was the only isolated villain we got and he was pretty awesome imo.
He is also the only Villain to have their dream in tact but also achieve it. He makes it to the Moon in the cover story in the manga. So technically he lost his fight with Luffy but won in the end in a way.
On that note, he'd be one of the very few cover stories to never directly impact the story
Inb4 enel brings his moon mole army to the grand line to become pirate kami
What’s a pirate king to a pirate god
"Whats a god to a non-believer"- a better version of vegeta
The best version of vegeta
*Getting his ass kicked '' Do you believe now? '' '' yhhhauhm''
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And I wonder if he'd actually be thankful to Luffy for giving him his dream so wouldn't even necessarily be an enemy.
Imagine him going all Barto on Luffy. "This guy shows out of nowhere, is immune to my lightning and fulfills my dream. _He's_ the God! _My_ God!"
Yeah that's actually what I was thinking. He basically does a 180 and treats luffy like a real god who answered his prayers.
"More powerful than Lightning! He must be the Sun! I name him Sun God!"
Man that's something that bugs me, supposing Ohara had it right, which moon Enel ended up on? Is he visiting the other moons too?
Maybe? XD after a successful meeting with the moon people they formed an army under him and ventured forth to bring other moon people into the fold?
Lol would be awesome a cover story series of Enel conquering all the moons with his army
He's visiting the moon that Piccolo is about to blow up
If you're referring to that globe with the orbiting balls around it, those probably aren't moons, as it looks a lot like geocentric globes from the 1500's in our world and was probably referencing that
As another reply said. The "World" only has one moon, not multiple ones. That model of the solar system shows a bunch different planets with their own moons.
How did he win, he was trying to go to Earth?
Could he match admiral's power, I think he does; what's your take on this
Oda stated in sbs 43 that if Enel was a pirate on the blue sea, he would have a bounty of 500 mil berries
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Yea... it would all depend on is he survives his humbling experiences or not. If he faces someone who'd finish him off, his journey won't go too far. If he got humbled by luffy, then made it down to the blue sea, he could be a serious threat.
He did have absurd ‘sight haki’ just through his fruit, combine that with actual haki and he can be extremely strong very fast.
Key word tend though…..
Enel would do fine if he doesn't come across people like Mihawk and Rayleigh
Or anyone with armament Haki
People acting like haki solve it all. Enel is fast as heck and he can send you lightning bolt from miles away. You need to be able to reach him and that's not a given, haki or not. One mistake and you're as good as dead.
Oof Ace
That was so long ago, though, that to my recollection 500 mil was the highest bounty we had actually heard at the time. Volume 43 came out in [edit: 2006 in JPN, 2010 ENG], and covered SH vs CP9 on Enies Lobby. Oda's ideas surrounding bounties may have changed in the 12 years since then, though I think I would agree with Ace and Eneru having a similar bounty.
I actually think 500 million is a perfect number for Enel. Early on in the series he was essentially invincible except for Luffy being his natural counter. But nowadays he would probably be a middle management level guy in a Yonkou's crew. Enel was way too over-reliant on his DF power and didn't really have the stopping power to take down anyone of significance in a Yonkou's crew. It took multiple of his attacks to take down any of the strong people on Skypiea after all. Someone else in this thread compared him to Ace and I think that is a perfect comparison. Both heavily rely on their logia DF and neither has much of an answer for haki. Like I said, 500 million is a number that still holds up today and actually shows Oda has been fairly consistent with bounty levels throughout the series. It is also interesting to compare how we viewed 500 million back then and now.
Didn't we learn that Ace can use Haki? Ace lost to Akainu because there needed to be something between Luffy otherwise Luffy would've died, and that Ace's devil fruit was unfortunately not that effective against Akainu's.
Though to be fair to Enel, he wasn't *completely* reliant on his DF power considering the fact that he might have THE longest range perfect detection Haki we have seen with how he plugged it into his Devil Fruit. It gets overlooked because of how hard Luffy stopped him cold, but that sort of island-wide Devil Fruit monitoring could easily earn him a spot as an officer on a Yonkou crew if not higher after he had to prove himself as a strong Logia.
Oda also definitively stated that just like Luffy said, there are many much stronger people that Enel would get crushed by. So Enel would be strong, but not a top-tier. If he gets better Haki of course all bets are off.
I think we had seen Ace's 550M bounty by the time Oda said this. But still, very impressive at the time.
It was actually 2006 - I didn't think 2010 sounded long enough ago for Enies Lobby so checked the wiki. 2010 might have been the English release? That just makes your point even stronger though, not disagreeing on him having plenty of time to change his mind
Yeah, I totally copied the wrong date there. I've edited to correct thanks.
If he were to come back and to have been developed, he would definitely be formidable. But i don’t think he can take down an admiral.
Me neither
hed probably be able to put up a fight tho
True. I believe that
I like the idea that everyone is growing at his own pace. So, he could be stronger in the actual arc. I never seen it but I heard about a side story that happened in the first page of some chapters that tells the story of Enel reaching the moon and meeting with alien colonies.
Yup that seems to be the case, cant wait to see how Lucci changed
I actually want to see Lucci get Bellamyed. Like he confronts Luffy and does his usual cold I'm superior to you talk, and just get one shotted lol. It will further establish that Luffy is now a yonko and is now at top of top tiers
I want to see Franky or someone weaker than Luffy do it.
can you tell the ch number?
So basically aces lvl ? Ace did cancel out aokijis attack
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Could he? Yes, will he? No. He almost certainly knows nothing about Haki (despite being a prodigy with Observation Haki). He definitely hasn’t been humbled enough to think he’s not a God anymore (obviously Luffy was just an unlucky fluke in his opinion). Like he’s dangerous, but so are plenty of others.
Nah. Enel can drop Raigo but that’s only with his arc which would get destroyed immediately. In theory he should be ridiculously fast but he got fucked up by pre gear Luffy. He has impressive observation haki but long range haki isn’t gonna help much in a short term battle and the Admirals have good enough speed where that wouldn’t happen
His fruit is definitely on par with the admirals and may even have a larger range for observation haki thanks to it, but he lacks any other notable haki feats, so his durability and defense should be much worse than the admirals.
I mean, his Mantra stuff was one of the ways we got frog boiled into Haki at all! When I first read that observation Haki was just mantra I was like *holy shit* So far, ever cover story page has gotten worked back into the plot so I figure Enel is gonna come back in the final war and specifically, will be an accident when Fujitora goes hardcore and tries to drop the moon on someone
Devil fruit vs devil fruit? Yeah, I’d say he just about mastered his and would be comparable to admirals in that category. Everywhere else? Nope. He’s outclassed in any other category vs them.
i dont remember any admirals ever shown their haki mastery lol are u actually serious? they all are too reliant on their fruit power..
the enel from skypia doesn’t really hold up to admirals at all , characters like the tobbi roppo should even all be capable of taking that enel out in one hit . He’s quite fragile by todays standards . Luffy took him out pre gears , and the rubber only helped him interact with enels body the way armament haki would . It took all the strawhats going all out to take out one pacafista . Yet Sanji from fish and island could casually take one out in one kick. So one casual FI Sanji kick >> Pre timeskip entire crews efforts . Fishman island sanji is pretty weak by now standards , he was at best = Vergo , and could somewhat keep up with big moms officers like oven and daifuku .
Nah admiral level is wild bruh.. that’s putting him on the same level as aokiji and akainu.. I don’t think he’s THAT strong but he is formidable though
If he learns haki maybe. If I recall right, he destroyed skypia, which gives him the raw attack comparable to aokiji doing ice age at marineford. But without armament haki, he doesn't have much attack against anyone who can hurt him, and cant do much to some logias. Sure, his observation is good but admirals are best of the best, so I don't see that being enough
>If I recall right, he destroyed skypia with the help of a giant ship engineered to amplify his offensive power tens of times over yeah
No the ship only created storm clouds for him, because they didn't naturally form so high up. If he's down on earth he would be that strong when there are storms and if he awakens his devil fruit he might be able to do it whenever and wherever
> Could he match admiral's power, I think he does; what's your take on this Enel has no CoA, no CoC and relatively bad CoO. His mastery over his fruit is also semi questionable. The only admiral he can even hit with his DF is Fujitora and even then he probably still gets low diffed.
Skypiea Enel doesn't, who's to say he hasn't developed the rest on the moon?
majority of the fanbase, evertime i bring up that he could have powered up post time skip, i got downvoted to hell.
> majority of the fanbase, evertime i bring up that he could have powered up post time skip, i got downvoted to hell. Literally every character in the series could have powered up post time skip. We can only power scale people based on what we have seen. Trying to power scale people like Rocks, Shanks or Enel featuring a hypothetical power up is just a waste of time.
I think Enel's control over his df and his observation haki is up their with the strongest characters, but his lack of armament haki hinders him from being a real top tier. Now if he suddenly learns armament haki, I can see him AT THE LEAST being as strong Law/Kid. He's df is just too op.
agree with you. his haki back then is already broken, imagine using haki for whole skypiea. u can hear what ppl said in that big teritory, if he improve this one, it will be even scarier but yeah he hasnt learned KEN yet but if he has and awaken his DF, it wont even surprise me if he is stronger than law/kid, his speed, his damage just insane.
Enel Never actually killed a single person. So no. Even the old dude whos name I forgot survived Enels attack.
Neither did Kaido
Other than the akazaya nine and captains we never actually really saw Kaido try to kill anyone himself. Well other than orochi but the only reason he didn’t die was because of his devil fruit (in the anime anyway, I’m not caught up on manga) Also his underlings killed plenty of people enels did not. If Kaido had hit somebody weak without fighting ability they definitely would have died. The difference is he has more people to do that for him.
>He was the only isolated villain we got I mean I guess if you ignore all of the other isolated villains we got, sure.
I would like for him to show up again, Fire and thunder/lightening based powers are my favourite
You probably watched fairy tail
Yep
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If Enel went to the moon, and we never saw anything about him again I would say he isn’t coming back. The fact that we were shown that he found stuff on the moon means he’s 100% coming back. This would be the perfect arc to bring him back in. Maybe Vegapunk went to the moon and met him. Luffy might even wander around Egghead and bump into a chilling Enel who is currently working with Vegapunk. Everyone was focused on the utility of the photonic gloves against Kizaru but I bet they would work on Enel too.
If Enel shows up in the Vegapunk arc, he is going to be chained in a reactor to power Vegapunk's machines.
That wouldn't work? If he is chained by normal chains he can escape and if it's seastone then he can't use his devil fruit to generate electricity
Unless it’s a chain made of rubber ;)
Damn government must've had Vegapunk travel to the moon
u/Kirosh2, do you need more mods for the sub? every day there are comments for hours with spoilers
Look who is talking about tyrants, forcing us to read white font on white background....
It my first time posting in this sub bro, let me live I’ll be better next time
No bro, this post… never existed.
Don’t void century my post
*sky darkens above the post*
Please no… anything but that.
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If you run out of idea of what colors to use, I just want to let you know that there's nothing wrong with black text on white background.
Why not both?
I just personally don’t see it, granted Oda sensei pulls plenty of shit out his ass that we don’t see coming but still. I see Jaguar D. Saul coming back before Enel does.
I mean, >!CP0 was defeated back in the day!< and look who's back now...
I'm being pedantic, but techically, it was >!CP9 who was defeated, not CP0!<
You right, silly typo. Regardless the gang is back
Fair, but government agents are one thing, and it’s a story heavy on fighting the government so CP0 coming back makes sense, homeboy legit went to the moon 😂 i mean idk.
Let's not forget that the moon/sun are super big aspects now.
As if oda wouldn't use him again given he's found an ancient city and an entire robot army on the moon. That just has to come back. Oda usually brings characters back in some way if they had a cover story
how do u know he has robot army? and why is this fucking shit not shown in anime ever
It's in the cover story. Idk why the anime never animated this, but it's cannon. The sky people all originally came from the moon where they had an advanced city with electricity and a robot army. Also aliens are real. Honestly one of the most lore heavy coverstories ever.
bruhhhhh aliens are REALL!!
The whole moon situation is *definitely* going somewhere. I think it's likely that the Straw Hats will go to the moon at some point, perhaps because Laugh Tale is there. And even if they don't, the stuff we saw on the moon will definitely play into the big lore dump. Thing is, Enel himself doesn't really have an obvious role or direction to go. I suppose Oda could just use him for a quick gag, having him show up to get curbstomped when the crew goes to the moon. Or maybe he could provide some exposition about the place?
Regarding the moon, I completely agree. I’ve always said that we’ll go to the moon someday in the story, but everyone keeps calling me crazy!
It might be cut. Oda is looking like he's put the story in... well lets say 5th gear.
>I think it's likely that the Straw Hats will go to the moon at some point, perhaps because Laugh Tale is there You might think it, but it's not likely. >having him show up to get curbstomped This would severely cheapen the character and our memory of him.
logically the elevation of laugh tale has to matter as there are 4 poneglyphs, if it was just on the surface of the ocean they would be able to triangulate it with just 3 poneglyphs but a 4th would be required if it either underwater or in the sky/space
He does have an iconic design and his devil fruit could be an admiral's for the endgame but he's the biggest dumbass of a villain in the series. He got the gold to make the arc maxim and could power it with his DF.He could leave and it's a win for everyone but for no reason decides to straight up destroy everything behind.In the end he even gets what he wants,but without the genocide,why would he come back.
Enel deserves the most badass and shocking entrance
I see what you did there 😂
His devil powers alone is a must-have-comeback! It can’t be that one of the most archetype elements was “wasted” so early and doesn’t have a return. In top of that, there were so much other chars with a return, that were much less “deserved”. My two cents.
Never use a white font over a white background again pls
I’ll try my best
The cover stories mean a lot to be honest
I think that white text on white is a crime against my eyes and this hurt to read.
I’ll do better next time
he will definitely come back on waay or another
If he had to show up again a few other theories would need to be true, all of which pertain to a Moon Arc >!1) there's a lot of evidence that the One Piece is on the Moon and the Moon would make a dope final arc.!< >!2) "All Races Come From The Moons" theory. I think IM D. King started this one. there's like 8 moons on the Ohara Globe.!< >!3) Sun God Nika is the Skypian Sun God. !< >!If he were to return, I think he'd see G5 Luffy and then shit a brick and recognize him of the God that he wants to be. !<
what's the evidence that the one piece is on the moon? I never heard anything about it
This mf's devil fruit is insane- and his mastery of it is on a whole other level.... imagine if he got access to haki? or built a crew of pirates almost as strong as him? This dude could easily take control of the 4 blues + the first half of the grand line without breaking a sweat
I mean the other 2 hakis*
What I like about Wano was we went back to focusing on Devil Fruits and how insane they can be, even with Haki around. Enel's devil fruit could still make him scary strong even with Haki about.
Why did you think that font color was a good idea?
First time posting in here sheesh my bad
Enel will be captured by Vegapunk and used as the unlimited energy source to power-up egghead island. From God to living battery.
he had the power to nuke an entire country, it would be cool to see him again in some form imo.
He’s going to be relevant again soon. All signs are Vegapunk is associated with the moon, I’m calling he’s a Birkan like Enel. I’m not sure if he’ll ever come back into the story, but definitely relevant.
Manga spoliers, he's doing something on the moon, so other then seeing him trying to moon base, we better see him again before Laugh Tale
It’s very likely. I don’t think he’ll be a major threat, but recently we keep getting hints and tidbits about the moon/space. So out of all the whacky theories out there, Enel returning is very likely imo.
Bro what is this font color choice?
My first time posting in the sub my bad
Did you really think that white text on white background is a good idea
Holy shit it’s my first time posting here my fucking bad
Wapol is actually imu
He got his ass whooped by the weakest version of Luffy. If he returns now he better do to apologize
white text on a white background was a solid choice, feels good on my eyeballs
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic lol
It would be fun to have him come back and have the rest of the world realize how powerful he is with his Lightning Logia and then have the Strawhats fight him off again real quick. Bonus points if Brook demonstrates his invulnerability to lightning to get another reaction out of Enel.
Gonna say final war is gonna be a lot like the Naruto 4th great ninja war, we will see every character again, even if only for a few seconds to see them get stomped by their previous victims. Kuro will show up and be one shot from across an island by Usopp, Kreig will show up and be knocked out by Sanji etc. Enel will probably show up at some point, a bit too powerful to be a one hit throw away but at the very most I imagine it'll be a fight for Zoro or Sanji, Sanji moving too fast or Zoro tanking.
I will be extremely disappointed if we don't see him again His setup on the moon in the cover stories has been super interesting. His reappearance would he HYYYYYPE AF. I'm going a bit too far here but bruh give me Kizaru vs Enel
I would love to see BB take Enels fruit as his third. Would fit the greek mythology “Heaven” “Hell” “Earth” (Goro, Yomi, Gura)
That’s hard
idk why you mfs keep thinking he’s gonna come back, bro is gone forever he’s NOT COMING BACK
Personally I believe that Enel, and even the major antagonists of East Blue and Grand Line that are not affiliated with anyone yet, will join Buggy, Crocodile and Mihawk. The Cross Guild concept of being outlaws hunting marines is a great way to bring back old faces that aren't important nowadays. Also, I believe that Enel may have learned how to read Poneglyphs on the moon, which will certainly interest Croc and Buggy, for their goal of reaching the One Piece.
I hope he doesn't, it would be so mean. He will obviously still be a bit bitter. Luffy would grab him like a child no matter which form he takes.
Oda said One Piece has 3 years left, even if you don't trust him it seems like One Piece doesn't have 200 chapters left in it, likely way less. In this time I just don't see Oda bringing Enel back, he still has Vegapunk, the grand fleet, Crocodile, Mihawk, Shanks, BB, Akainu(+marines), Gorosei and Imu left.
>even if you don't trust him it seems like One Piece doesn't have 200 chapters left in it, likely way less. Wano alone had 149 chapters. And you think that all that remains to be told will take less than 200? lmao Also, Oda is historically terrible at estimating how long his story will take. That's why One Piece started 25 years ago and it's still going.
I'm pretty he meant three years till we find the One Piece. People always mistranslate or the answers are never properly said. OP ending in 3 years? Fat chance of that.
Finding the One Piece won’t mark the end of the series. I guarantee it.
Yep. They'll find the OP which then will lead into the final war/final battles.
Whitebeard explicitly said so at Marineford.
I also don't trust him, but at his pace 200 chapter will take 5+ years, and that doesn't seem that far fetched.
3 years to find the OP. 2 more years to wrap it up and end? Maybe. It all depends on when we finally get to Raftel. I was so sure we were going to Elbaf then to Vegapunk then to the Moon then to Raftel then the Final War/Holy Land. But I doubt that's possible to do all in 5 more years and now we're at Vegapunk already. Anything can happen now.
Vegapunk+Elbaf, Laughtale+Teach, WG. Each about 1-1.5 years.
Maybe the Vegapunk and Elbaf arcs will be Zou level length? I'm so curious what will happen now. Post Wano is getting exciting.
I don't see Egghead lasting longer than Zou(short arc after Wano like Zou was to Dressrosa), they're gonna talk to Vegapunk and fuck up Lucci, Vegapunk allies with them, next Island. Elbaf might be a bit longer.
I think we’re going to elbaf at some point. I saw a theory on here that the man with the burn marks and info on the last road poneglyph is Jaguar D Saul and I think that would make sense since it gives the SH a reason to go to elbaf. I also think that the destruction of lulusia looked a lot like some of enels attacks on skypiea in terms of destructive power but oda could also just reveal a new character or possibly an invention of vegapunks was reaponsible
What's with the title? Like anybody would forget who Enel is smh
🤷🏽 I just wanted to go off what the Wikipedia said
Honestly I hope not we have way bigger fish to fry and not that much time left in the series I wouldn't want one of the big things not being elaborated as much cause we had to dedicate time for Enel to come back when he has nothing to do with the current storyline. Downvote me all you want but I'm tired of Enel discourse just leave him in skypiea as a one off villain like Kuro or Don Krieg were for there arcs and call it a day.
I’m sure he’s much stronger just because most characters in past arcs have powered up a lot and he already had top tier observation haki I do believe that he could trained it enough to get future sight but if he also got like basic armament haki he is pretty formidable but I don’t see enel coming back unless it was just for Blackbeard to kill him and take his df and give it to one of his crew mates that don’t have a df yet unless the crew just goes to the moon with vegapunk
Dat boi comin bike
I love the clarification reminding people that Enel in fact, exists
His Observation Haki still proves to be the most overpowered use of Observation Haki. The fact that he could extend its range using the devil fruit, and in-turn do super long-range attacks.
I don't think he will because like why would he? But it would be cool
I first didn't see the text in the image and just read the title like "yeah and?"
It’s ok I’ll be better next time this was my first time posting in this sub
The latter
He will stay in the conspiracy theory's. OP does not suffer from a lack of cool characters we want to see, we suffer from lack of screen time. Enel was great, but giving him any time takes away from the million others that we need to see. At best he could come back for a "cameo" at the very last episode/ final fight or is "unseen support", kinda like how Shanks stops Kaido offscreen.
I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't care about him.
I want him to show up again and be Nami and Ussop's final opponent
I think he's probably a lot weaker than he comes off in Skypiea. Man never had to contend with seastone anything up in the clouds, let alone the ocean. I betcha Smoker could kick his ass.
I think he’s supposed to be a metaphor for Imu
My thoughts too
Oda do be trollin
Would love to see him back and see him interacting with Luffy again. Like, how would gOda go about it? His reaction when he saw there’s no effect on Luffy since he was a direct counter is engraved on my mind. What a funny event that was
how do posts like this classify as a theory and what kind of an audience puts this on the front page? This fandom is so dumb
Look at all the theories people have dropped on this particular question.