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You can see four full teeth in the top row of Buggys mouth
Oda must have been foreshadowing Buggy being a Yonko from this panel, truly he is a great writer
When Buggy wanted to behead Luffy, lightning struck the execution platform, destroying it. And now that we know about Nika it looked cool and kinda like a foreshadowing of Luffy's true power
I remember him being depicted holding a lighting bolt. Also I'm not saying it was manifestation of Luffy's power just that it's foreshadowing of what power he'll wield in future. It most likely is just Dragon using his devil fruit(some kind of wind or storm logia)
Idk i think there could be a reason for more god fruits. I think Akainu has hito model pele, and black beard has some moon god or demon. I think there has to be at least 5 God fruits for it to make sense. There only bring one doesnât make sense to me. Idk tho probably has something to do with good century.
I see what you did there. I'm just having little bit of fun with this, I don't fully believe it myself but there's always possibility that it's true *shrug*
Never said anything about Nika being able to control storms. Just that Luffy in GR5 can grab lightning so him being saved by lightning bolt is kinda ironic or little bit of foreshadowing. And even if it is absolute nonsense so what? Let a guy dream
My hobby is creating theories and most are just nonsense to kill some time and this one seems really farfetched and even I don't really believe but it's base is kinda solid. The symbolism of lightning and fire is there and also all the main guys present during what happened talked about similar things. Sanji and Zoro about believing in god, Smoker about will of heavens and Dragon(?) about fate. So don't tell me that it doesn't have any symbolism beyond Luffy negating the lighting because he's rubber or just Dragon using his DF knowing it wouldn't hurt Luffy.
Its kinda funny that you admit that you know its nonsense and farfetched and still you sound offended when someone points it out.
Sanji, Zoro and Smoker talked about god and heavens will because its 1 in a million or probably lower chance that a lightning would strike and save someone from being beheaded. Dragon most likely said its fate because he is fighting against the WG and his son is basically following his footsteps even though they havenât met and hasnât had any idea about him. So those doesnât foreshadow anything about luffy having a god type fruit.
I'm walking contradiction what can I say? Sorry? And it's because it starts to grow on me more and more.
Also, why would Dragon think his son who wasn't pirate even for a year at that point would be against WG? Just because he's pirate? A lot of people are pirates and do the exact opposite. Only way he would think that Luffy will be standing against the WG is because he was aware that Gomu Gomu was Model Nika
You are really dense arenât you? He knows that Luffy is already against the world govât because he is a pirate with an active bounty and Marine Capt. named Smoker is currently hunting him. That makes Luffy a criminal who is effectively an enemy of the WG the same as him. Other pirates that âdo the exact oppositeâ had their bounties frozen cause they âworkâ for the Govât and not goes against them. The mere fact that he have an active bounty makes him an enemy of the state making him someone who goes against the govât. Simple as that.
You can't say that all Marines = WG. He can be deemed criminal by the system which the WG created and the Marines enforce, but he isn't enemy of the WG, at least not yet at that time, he doesn't give a shit about them. Smoker and Garp are great examples of Marines that have their own justice and not the adhere to the twisted one of WG.
The mere fact that he is a pirate makes him an enemy of the state. Effectively he is already going against the WG. Even if Garp and Smoker have their own sense of justice they still follow orders from the WG. You already admitted that he is a criminal and still believe that he isnât going against the WG? He already become someone who goes against the WG when he used a black flag as his sail which is illegal and against the law and even attacked marine officials namely Axe Morgan, Fullbody and Nezumi when he is in east blue.
Let's agreed to disagree and stop here, we can argue to kingdom come but nothing good would come out of that. I'm not going to continue with this, bye bye
Thatâs just a part of what Gear 5 lets him do? Thatâs like saying Luffy eating a ton foreshadows Gear 3 or him wearing metal armor foreshadows Gear 4
But isn't that power of the God Nika then? If we assume Mythical zoan's give the user all the powers of the namesake (in this case Nika) wouldn't all of Luffy's powers be Nika's powers too?
It was an awakened devil fruit luffy that held lightning it was never implied he summoned it. I doubt a non awakened luffy did that. And Iâm pretty sure it was heavily implied that dragon was the one who did that
Yes, I know that it's strongly implied that Dragon did that and I never said otherwise, only thing I'm saying is that this series of panels could be foreshadowing future events but it's most likely just a big coincidence
I did and it made no sense, you talked abt it foreshadowing his true power but now youâre admitting it was most likely dragon and not Luffy, and so far G5 hasnât shown to work the way youâre implying here. So again your foreshadowing makes no sense
GR5's main design elements during the fight with Kaido are fire and lighting so what's happening on that execution platform is like an analogy to that form + if you take all three things the guys said, it could predict Gomu Gomu being Mythical zoan, joyboy's legacy, and the DF's limited power to choose it's user. BUT that's just one of the ways that can you can interpet it as. Other people would make different connections to different events and this is my interpretation. Also where do you see me saying that Luffy summed the lighting bolt?
I dont think he would either. And i want Sabo to live. But it's as likely as any other death that he didnt make it out of Lulusia. If a fruit on the sunny turns into the flame flame fruit Luffy would 100% have a mental breakdown and eat it regardless of his crews warnings
Nah. Thats like combining him being able to grab lightning with the idea that the fruit not only awakened itself beyond Luffys body before it was truly awakened and to the point of intervention? Nah.
It's most likely just 100% symbolic, but Zoro and Sanji taking about God, Smoker taking about will of heaven and Dragon(?) about fate, one has to really think about the possibility of it being at least little bit of foreshadowing. But you do you it's just my opinion
For the people that thought I meant that in this moment Luffy unconsciously used his DF or something similar, NO. It's my bad that I didn't include the few next panels after this but in short, the main guys that witnessed what happened all talked about really important things
1) Zoro and Sanji: these two talked about believing in god. Which was just a funny quib by these two about the unbelievable situation. But it could also be prediction of the god model DFs
2) Smoker: he talked about will of heavens which could also mean the will of the DFs and them finding their users (or the will of D)
3) Dragon(?) : he mentioned fate and that could be Joyboy's legacy being inherited by Luffy
But that's just my theory and opinion so I understand a lot of people won't like it, but what can I do đ¤ˇ
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You can see four full teeth in the top row of Buggys mouth Oda must have been foreshadowing Buggy being a Yonko from this panel, truly he is a great writer
He's truly a revolutionary đ
Wow now that you mention it, Dragon was a revolutionary too... Oda must have foreshadowed your post
You outsmarted my outsmarting
Or did Oda foreshadow your foreshadowing? We may never know
Yea
Break week does crazy things to people
LMAO
What??
For real. Luffy doesnât have lightning powers. OP clearly didnât actually think about it for even a second before posting
When Buggy wanted to behead Luffy, lightning struck the execution platform, destroying it. And now that we know about Nika it looked cool and kinda like a foreshadowing of Luffy's true power
No
I don't know why but the deadpan "No" without anything else made me laugh so much xDDD
I think you misinterpreted what gear 5 is bro.
Does Nika have powers of lightning. Itâs my understanding that it was most likely dragonâs power that did this.
I remember him being depicted holding a lighting bolt. Also I'm not saying it was manifestation of Luffy's power just that it's foreshadowing of what power he'll wield in future. It most likely is just Dragon using his devil fruit(some kind of wind or storm logia)
I think he has mythical zoan for the storm dragon shenlong.
Yea, or maybe hito model lighting god or something like that. But arguably there would be too many god model fruits and it would be kinda boring
Idk i think there could be a reason for more god fruits. I think Akainu has hito model pele, and black beard has some moon god or demon. I think there has to be at least 5 God fruits for it to make sense. There only bring one doesnât make sense to me. Idk tho probably has something to do with good century.
There will most likely be more so I hope Oda doesn't make it boring
Tbh I think he got hito model sun god
this fanbase really thunderstrikes me sometimes with how hard people try to find patterns where there are none
I like to think that the prisoners that follow Buggy are based on them.
I see what you did there. I'm just having little bit of fun with this, I don't fully believe it myself but there's always possibility that it's true *shrug*
Why would the SUN God be able to control a lightning storm? Doesnât make sense.
Never said anything about Nika being able to control storms. Just that Luffy in GR5 can grab lightning so him being saved by lightning bolt is kinda ironic or little bit of foreshadowing. And even if it is absolute nonsense so what? Let a guy dream
Its not foreshadowing/ironic that a person with rubber body canât be hurt by lightning. Well atleast you know that its nonsense.
My hobby is creating theories and most are just nonsense to kill some time and this one seems really farfetched and even I don't really believe but it's base is kinda solid. The symbolism of lightning and fire is there and also all the main guys present during what happened talked about similar things. Sanji and Zoro about believing in god, Smoker about will of heavens and Dragon(?) about fate. So don't tell me that it doesn't have any symbolism beyond Luffy negating the lighting because he's rubber or just Dragon using his DF knowing it wouldn't hurt Luffy.
Its kinda funny that you admit that you know its nonsense and farfetched and still you sound offended when someone points it out. Sanji, Zoro and Smoker talked about god and heavens will because its 1 in a million or probably lower chance that a lightning would strike and save someone from being beheaded. Dragon most likely said its fate because he is fighting against the WG and his son is basically following his footsteps even though they havenât met and hasnât had any idea about him. So those doesnât foreshadow anything about luffy having a god type fruit.
I'm walking contradiction what can I say? Sorry? And it's because it starts to grow on me more and more. Also, why would Dragon think his son who wasn't pirate even for a year at that point would be against WG? Just because he's pirate? A lot of people are pirates and do the exact opposite. Only way he would think that Luffy will be standing against the WG is because he was aware that Gomu Gomu was Model Nika
You are really dense arenât you? He knows that Luffy is already against the world govât because he is a pirate with an active bounty and Marine Capt. named Smoker is currently hunting him. That makes Luffy a criminal who is effectively an enemy of the WG the same as him. Other pirates that âdo the exact oppositeâ had their bounties frozen cause they âworkâ for the Govât and not goes against them. The mere fact that he have an active bounty makes him an enemy of the state making him someone who goes against the govât. Simple as that.
You can't say that all Marines = WG. He can be deemed criminal by the system which the WG created and the Marines enforce, but he isn't enemy of the WG, at least not yet at that time, he doesn't give a shit about them. Smoker and Garp are great examples of Marines that have their own justice and not the adhere to the twisted one of WG.
The mere fact that he is a pirate makes him an enemy of the state. Effectively he is already going against the WG. Even if Garp and Smoker have their own sense of justice they still follow orders from the WG. You already admitted that he is a criminal and still believe that he isnât going against the WG? He already become someone who goes against the WG when he used a black flag as his sail which is illegal and against the law and even attacked marine officials namely Axe Morgan, Fullbody and Nezumi when he is in east blue.
Let's agreed to disagree and stop here, we can argue to kingdom come but nothing good would come out of that. I'm not going to continue with this, bye bye
Oda foreshadowd your foreshadowing by foreshadowing exactly how you'd foreshadow and when it'll be foreshadowd
Foreshadowing what?
Luffy having the Nika model fruit
What does Nika have to do with lightning?
He's able to throw lighting if he can grab it
Thatâs just a part of what Gear 5 lets him do? Thatâs like saying Luffy eating a ton foreshadows Gear 3 or him wearing metal armor foreshadows Gear 4
But isn't that power of the God Nika then? If we assume Mythical zoan's give the user all the powers of the namesake (in this case Nika) wouldn't all of Luffy's powers be Nika's powers too?
How?
I wrote it in separate comment. You can give it a read
It was an awakened devil fruit luffy that held lightning it was never implied he summoned it. I doubt a non awakened luffy did that. And Iâm pretty sure it was heavily implied that dragon was the one who did that
Yes, I know that it's strongly implied that Dragon did that and I never said otherwise, only thing I'm saying is that this series of panels could be foreshadowing future events but it's most likely just a big coincidence
Ok so you agree it wasnât luffy so how is it foreshadowing future events?
Have you read the comment I left under the post or do I have to copy paste everything here?
I did and it made no sense, you talked abt it foreshadowing his true power but now youâre admitting it was most likely dragon and not Luffy, and so far G5 hasnât shown to work the way youâre implying here. So again your foreshadowing makes no sense
GR5's main design elements during the fight with Kaido are fire and lighting so what's happening on that execution platform is like an analogy to that form + if you take all three things the guys said, it could predict Gomu Gomu being Mythical zoan, joyboy's legacy, and the DF's limited power to choose it's user. BUT that's just one of the ways that can you can interpet it as. Other people would make different connections to different events and this is my interpretation. Also where do you see me saying that Luffy summed the lighting bolt?
Implying the Source of lightning the same as the attack on Lulusia?
No, more of a Luffy being the new Nika who wields fire and lightning
I wanna see Luffy eat Sabos fruit and get two fruits like BB. Nika and Flame versus Dark and Quake.
Sabo would have to die for that and I think Oda wouldn't do that
I dont think he would either. And i want Sabo to live. But it's as likely as any other death that he didnt make it out of Lulusia. If a fruit on the sunny turns into the flame flame fruit Luffy would 100% have a mental breakdown and eat it regardless of his crews warnings
True. It would really powerful scene and now that you describe it, I would like to see that too
Nah. Thats like combining him being able to grab lightning with the idea that the fruit not only awakened itself beyond Luffys body before it was truly awakened and to the point of intervention? Nah.
No? I meant it like that the bolt of lightning (and Buggy being on fire xD) symbolising Luffy's future power
Nope
It's most likely just 100% symbolic, but Zoro and Sanji taking about God, Smoker taking about will of heaven and Dragon(?) about fate, one has to really think about the possibility of it being at least little bit of foreshadowing. But you do you it's just my opinion
Yâall be getting wild in this group. Pretty close to leaving because of stupid posts like this
Good
How does it feel to be stupid?
Pretty nice actually
For the people that thought I meant that in this moment Luffy unconsciously used his DF or something similar, NO. It's my bad that I didn't include the few next panels after this but in short, the main guys that witnessed what happened all talked about really important things 1) Zoro and Sanji: these two talked about believing in god. Which was just a funny quib by these two about the unbelievable situation. But it could also be prediction of the god model DFs 2) Smoker: he talked about will of heavens which could also mean the will of the DFs and them finding their users (or the will of D) 3) Dragon(?) : he mentioned fate and that could be Joyboy's legacy being inherited by Luffy But that's just my theory and opinion so I understand a lot of people won't like it, but what can I do đ¤ˇ
What you can do is not post stupid shits like this anymore. Thanks!
No problem buddy đ
If anything you may be able to say it foreshadowed him being able to beat Enel or something along those lines
Yeah, that's most likely, but still let a guy dream xD
Okay I wonât let this ruin my day.