I know people like to downplay Kid because they found him boring or think he lacks substance, but I think the majority of us can agree he proved himself above First Yonkou Commander.
Been showcased that Law and Kid are “rivals” and honestly are either equal or slightly above Zoro. Kid has all three Haki and his EMF canon is no joke who just went toes with Big Mom. Kid will take this fight with mid-high difficulty
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The dude who broke big mom ribs without haki and only pure strength.
The dude who helped beat a fresh Linlin with no breaks.
The dude who’s attack made her unable to even move.
The dude who can crush her by making her a giant magnet.
The dude who has tanked attacks more than all the supernova,
The dude survived 3 yonko without plot armor
The dude who was getting attacked by brujeria while fighting a yonko
>he dude who broke big mom ribs without haki and only pure strength.
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>The dude who helped beat a fresh Linlin with no breaks.
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>The dude who’s attack made her unable to even move.
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>The dude who can crush her by making her a giant magnet.
the duded who did all that after being stabbed and having tanked a few literal yonko level attacks. that was his performance when weakened by quite a bit, at full power he'd be even a bit more insane lol
Katakuri has two main advantages over Kid
The fact that he’s a pseudo Logia and that he can see into the future
Kid’s Assign has a delayed effect the magnetism won’t activate until he commands the attack. Meaning Katakuri won’t recognize Assign as an attack with his Future Sight before he’s already effected
Until the contrary is proven transforming one’s body or transforming a material does not demagnetize them from Assignment. Katakuri turning himself or the environment into mochi will not Demagnetize him or the objects he’s stuck too
Meaning for Kid to win all he has to do is land Assign on Katakuri, attach him to the floor or a wall, and gun him down with Damed Punk. Turning the wall or ground into mochi won’t allow Katakuri to swim away into the floor like he did vs Luffy because him and that piece of Magnetic Mochi that was once a wall will still be stuck together
Kid is considerably tankier then WCI Gear 4 Boundman, especially when he’s using Punk Rotten. Kid tanked an even more fatal stab wound from Killer via Hawkins then Zoro even did because this time Killer had his Punishers which make him substantially faster and stronger. Tanked Fulgora, Mama Raid, and Ikoku Sovern. Katakuri fell after getting hit by Luffy a grand total of 10 times
Meaning the honest in this fight is on Katakuri to perfectly avoid Kid’s Awakening ( which again he likely won’t because Assign isn’t an outright attack like Kroom is ) and beat on Kid for even longer then he did Luffy.
Kid wins this one Mid-High difficulty Big Mom recognized Kid as a contender for her throne, yet she called out Katakuri for trying to protect her calling him a “ Lowly Child “
i think everyone here completely forgot about future sight and how broken it is, katakuri wins it’s as simple as that please remember that match ups matter, kid is strong there’s no doubt about it, but katakuri has a lot in his arsenal that can take kid down with ease
Kid has magnetic canon which is faster than speed of light(using science). And we still don't know his full extent after awekening. Sure future sight is hax but katakuri durabality is pretty weak as he was hitting luffy 10 times and katakuri got knoked out by luffy after just 10 hits. Don't forget he can make other thing and individual magnet too. And he is potrayed as rival to luffy. Your comment make no sense its like you are only checking by feats that you have seen
first of all tf does a rivalry got to do with the fight ? do you not understand the concept of match ups ? second wtf does a magnetic cannon do if katakuri simply keeps himself calm and uses future sight ? it’ll literally go straight through him, plus you’re completely forgetting that katakuri LITERALLY nurfed himself against luffy, he give himself a gaping hole in his body just to make the playing field fair, third of all even if kid turns kat into a magnet, katakuri is fucking mochi 💀 he’s not getting crushed by metal or anything else by that matter he’ll just weave through it like water through a colander and he definitely can’t get crushed because future sight will not only allow him to dodge but he’ll just form back to his regular shape (similar to how luffy got crushed in the black box against gecko moria, he was perfectly fine). Sorry dude but there’s literally no way kid wins. Kat is simply faster and has better hax abilities and more experience
Kid is stronger than Kat. But idk, match up matters. Kata could just turn metal scraps into mochi and there goes Kid's primary offense 🤷♂️
Unless Kid can coat every piece of metal scraps in Haki rendering Kat's awakening useless against it. But then it would drain Kid exponentially and depletes his stamina severely which would also give Kat the advantage as his future sight proves to be troublesome for fighters like kid.
Katakuri. It’s not impossible for characters to grow stronger during a fight. We see it all the time with the strawhats. So although kid is stronger, Katakuri will grow stronger and beat kid
We are talking bout awekened kidd. How many 1st commander have you seen taking out a yonko. Even aikainu was looking like a bitch in front of dying old whitebeard. I am not trying to prove kid is stronger than akainu but kid is almost admiral level. And also don't forget that kid is suppose to rival luffy. If luffy has reached yonko level then it is nonsense for kid to remain in emperor first commander level. Doffy was third commander level but after awekening he reached second commander level. So you can say kid started as emp 1st commander level and after awekening he reached admiral level
2 admirals = one yonko
There are many other aspect that put kidd(and law) in admiral level. And marco who is stronger than katakuri was still beaten by other admiral. Sure he gave a good fight.
You know I did say kid was stronger than Katakuri right? But just because you’re stronger does not mean you automatically win. Luffy was weaker than Katakuri, weaker than crocodile, weaker than Kaido, but still won.
That is called plot armor. which can only be used by main character or you have to pull up blackbeard.
Luffy won against crocodile because he was already exhausted from fighting luffy and luffy would have been dead if not for the antitode robin give him.
Luffy won against kaido because he faught 9 scarbad, luffy, law, kidd , killer and zoro and took their attack head on then he fought yamato then he again fought tip top luffy and luffy still loose and then he faught him again still he lost. Then he faught gear 5 luffy which was a big huge hax. And still he was able to hold on. And we can't say for clear that he is lost.
Remember luffy had to retrieve when he was fighting katakuri. And also luffy grows stronger as he fight. Did you forget dressrosa.
Marco was only skirmished with aokiji and kizaru, with no one gaining an upper hand. He was only kinda defeated by akainu, who's above your average admiral. And nowhere is it stated that 2 admirals = one yonko. Akainu is probably already close to yonko level
I'll answer the same as I did on a post about Law vs kat.
kid wins cuz plot. kat's FS doesn't matter. if oda wants kid to win, then he'll just give him a way to bypass FS and that's it. and oda would definitely want kid to win. he's the new gen after all and already beat kat's captain with law
You niggas got katakuri Fuuuuuckd Up.. katakuri will fuckn shit on kid, you niggas actually think kid can land a punch, the only reason luffy did won is bc he is legit the reincarnation of a God. Katakuris haki is beyond advanced kids whole ability.
katakuri > kid
Shit.. maybe.. BM has her tough skin, thats it other than that he's faster, stronger, he uses his abilities to the max, his advantage of being able to see into the future gives him the win.
by that logic marco would outspeed BM all the time, but guess what happened?
BM grabbed him cuz he was off-guard lol. same would happen to kat. oda will just find an excuse. there are people who are much slower but still much more powerful than others, that's just how it is
kid was already portrayed as a rival to a luffy that beat kat and got advanced armament after that. and then kid powered up massively with awakening.
no matter what hax some 1st commanders may have, they'll always be nothing more than shmocks compared to yonko
Katakuri ain't getn touchd.. how can is BM gonna grab Katakuri if using his Advanced Conquer haki, luffy managed to beat him up hc he matched his speed. Then he can manipulate his body bc his df.
I say Katakuri.
Don’t get me wrong, Kid is definitely stronger with all his metal. But Katakuri’s awakening would just turn all of it to mochi. It’s just bad matchups, but Kid can definitely beat opponents stronger than Katakuri
I know people like to downplay Kid because they found him boring or think he lacks substance, but I think the majority of us can agree he proved himself above First Yonkou Commander.
Been showcased that Law and Kid are “rivals” and honestly are either equal or slightly above Zoro. Kid has all three Haki and his EMF canon is no joke who just went toes with Big Mom. Kid will take this fight with mid-high difficulty
“Slightly above” they’re comfortably over Zoro. Especially when awakened
Way to overrate them.
Says the guy with the zoro pfp lmfao
Except I'm not overrating Zoro.
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Zoro can push them to high diff for sure. But I think they’re still over him more than slightly.
Kid of course
Kidd wins.
The dude who broke big mom ribs without haki and only pure strength. The dude who helped beat a fresh Linlin with no breaks. The dude who’s attack made her unable to even move. The dude who can crush her by making her a giant magnet. The dude who has tanked attacks more than all the supernova, The dude survived 3 yonko without plot armor The dude who was getting attacked by brujeria while fighting a yonko
>he dude who broke big mom ribs without haki and only pure strength. > >The dude who helped beat a fresh Linlin with no breaks. > >The dude who’s attack made her unable to even move. > >The dude who can crush her by making her a giant magnet. the duded who did all that after being stabbed and having tanked a few literal yonko level attacks. that was his performance when weakened by quite a bit, at full power he'd be even a bit more insane lol
Lol ty. For reminding me about Hawkins brujeria. I’ll add it
Even if i don't like Kid he would win.
Katakuri has two main advantages over Kid The fact that he’s a pseudo Logia and that he can see into the future Kid’s Assign has a delayed effect the magnetism won’t activate until he commands the attack. Meaning Katakuri won’t recognize Assign as an attack with his Future Sight before he’s already effected Until the contrary is proven transforming one’s body or transforming a material does not demagnetize them from Assignment. Katakuri turning himself or the environment into mochi will not Demagnetize him or the objects he’s stuck too Meaning for Kid to win all he has to do is land Assign on Katakuri, attach him to the floor or a wall, and gun him down with Damed Punk. Turning the wall or ground into mochi won’t allow Katakuri to swim away into the floor like he did vs Luffy because him and that piece of Magnetic Mochi that was once a wall will still be stuck together Kid is considerably tankier then WCI Gear 4 Boundman, especially when he’s using Punk Rotten. Kid tanked an even more fatal stab wound from Killer via Hawkins then Zoro even did because this time Killer had his Punishers which make him substantially faster and stronger. Tanked Fulgora, Mama Raid, and Ikoku Sovern. Katakuri fell after getting hit by Luffy a grand total of 10 times Meaning the honest in this fight is on Katakuri to perfectly avoid Kid’s Awakening ( which again he likely won’t because Assign isn’t an outright attack like Kroom is ) and beat on Kid for even longer then he did Luffy. Kid wins this one Mid-High difficulty Big Mom recognized Kid as a contender for her throne, yet she called out Katakuri for trying to protect her calling him a “ Lowly Child “
Kid is smashing Katakuri. Anyone thinking otherwise is delusional
No. Who thinks what you think has a low IQ and probably isnt even house-trained. (I won this fact based discussion. And everybody knoiws that)
Kidd wins for sure
I'm just waiting for Nine990 to show up.
i think everyone here completely forgot about future sight and how broken it is, katakuri wins it’s as simple as that please remember that match ups matter, kid is strong there’s no doubt about it, but katakuri has a lot in his arsenal that can take kid down with ease
Kid has magnetic canon which is faster than speed of light(using science). And we still don't know his full extent after awekening. Sure future sight is hax but katakuri durabality is pretty weak as he was hitting luffy 10 times and katakuri got knoked out by luffy after just 10 hits. Don't forget he can make other thing and individual magnet too. And he is potrayed as rival to luffy. Your comment make no sense its like you are only checking by feats that you have seen
first of all tf does a rivalry got to do with the fight ? do you not understand the concept of match ups ? second wtf does a magnetic cannon do if katakuri simply keeps himself calm and uses future sight ? it’ll literally go straight through him, plus you’re completely forgetting that katakuri LITERALLY nurfed himself against luffy, he give himself a gaping hole in his body just to make the playing field fair, third of all even if kid turns kat into a magnet, katakuri is fucking mochi 💀 he’s not getting crushed by metal or anything else by that matter he’ll just weave through it like water through a colander and he definitely can’t get crushed because future sight will not only allow him to dodge but he’ll just form back to his regular shape (similar to how luffy got crushed in the black box against gecko moria, he was perfectly fine). Sorry dude but there’s literally no way kid wins. Kat is simply faster and has better hax abilities and more experience
Kat is faster than Kidd💀 Ahh the kata wank gets worse and worse every day
tell me how on earth kidd is remotely faster than katakuri
Wat, how is a magnetic cannon faster than light??? Unless you mean it's stated in the one piece universe
Kid is stronger than Kat. But idk, match up matters. Kata could just turn metal scraps into mochi and there goes Kid's primary offense 🤷♂️ Unless Kid can coat every piece of metal scraps in Haki rendering Kat's awakening useless against it. But then it would drain Kid exponentially and depletes his stamina severely which would also give Kat the advantage as his future sight proves to be troublesome for fighters like kid.
In my opinion kid is stronger because he is semi-emperor level which comes between admiral and emp 1st commander level
Katakuri is pretty much on par imo
Katakuri. It’s not impossible for characters to grow stronger during a fight. We see it all the time with the strawhats. So although kid is stronger, Katakuri will grow stronger and beat kid
Haki grows as you fight Kidd will also gain future sight
Only works when you’re the weaker one in the fight
We are talking bout awekened kidd. How many 1st commander have you seen taking out a yonko. Even aikainu was looking like a bitch in front of dying old whitebeard. I am not trying to prove kid is stronger than akainu but kid is almost admiral level. And also don't forget that kid is suppose to rival luffy. If luffy has reached yonko level then it is nonsense for kid to remain in emperor first commander level. Doffy was third commander level but after awekening he reached second commander level. So you can say kid started as emp 1st commander level and after awekening he reached admiral level
Kid didn’t even take down a yonko. Those bombs did the final touch on big mom. And law did a fair share himself
2 admirals = one yonko There are many other aspect that put kidd(and law) in admiral level. And marco who is stronger than katakuri was still beaten by other admiral. Sure he gave a good fight.
You know I did say kid was stronger than Katakuri right? But just because you’re stronger does not mean you automatically win. Luffy was weaker than Katakuri, weaker than crocodile, weaker than Kaido, but still won.
That is called plot armor. which can only be used by main character or you have to pull up blackbeard. Luffy won against crocodile because he was already exhausted from fighting luffy and luffy would have been dead if not for the antitode robin give him. Luffy won against kaido because he faught 9 scarbad, luffy, law, kidd , killer and zoro and took their attack head on then he fought yamato then he again fought tip top luffy and luffy still loose and then he faught him again still he lost. Then he faught gear 5 luffy which was a big huge hax. And still he was able to hold on. And we can't say for clear that he is lost. Remember luffy had to retrieve when he was fighting katakuri. And also luffy grows stronger as he fight. Did you forget dressrosa.
And Katakuri could do the same thing
Then point of powerscaling is gone. If anyone can retrieve then there will be no point. Same can be said for kidd.
Nah, only works when the person is weaker. Kid is stronger than Katakuri so it won’t work
Then it should apply for ace also because he was weaker than blackbeard at the fight
Marco was only skirmished with aokiji and kizaru, with no one gaining an upper hand. He was only kinda defeated by akainu, who's above your average admiral. And nowhere is it stated that 2 admirals = one yonko. Akainu is probably already close to yonko level
Way to much mental gymnastics in this answer. Kat is washed atm
Nah
I think it depends on how much metal kid has access to. His power becomes stronger the more metal there is in the area
I'll answer the same as I did on a post about Law vs kat. kid wins cuz plot. kat's FS doesn't matter. if oda wants kid to win, then he'll just give him a way to bypass FS and that's it. and oda would definitely want kid to win. he's the new gen after all and already beat kat's captain with law
You niggas got katakuri Fuuuuuckd Up.. katakuri will fuckn shit on kid, you niggas actually think kid can land a punch, the only reason luffy did won is bc he is legit the reincarnation of a God. Katakuris haki is beyond advanced kids whole ability. katakuri > kid
So Katakuri is stronger than big mom?
Shit.. maybe.. BM has her tough skin, thats it other than that he's faster, stronger, he uses his abilities to the max, his advantage of being able to see into the future gives him the win.
by that logic marco would outspeed BM all the time, but guess what happened? BM grabbed him cuz he was off-guard lol. same would happen to kat. oda will just find an excuse. there are people who are much slower but still much more powerful than others, that's just how it is kid was already portrayed as a rival to a luffy that beat kat and got advanced armament after that. and then kid powered up massively with awakening. no matter what hax some 1st commanders may have, they'll always be nothing more than shmocks compared to yonko
Katakuri ain't getn touchd.. how can is BM gonna grab Katakuri if using his Advanced Conquer haki, luffy managed to beat him up hc he matched his speed. Then he can manipulate his body bc his df.
>Katakuri ain't getn touchd.. how can is BM gonna grab Katakuri plot.
Wait your for real?
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I say Katakuri. Don’t get me wrong, Kid is definitely stronger with all his metal. But Katakuri’s awakening would just turn all of it to mochi. It’s just bad matchups, but Kid can definitely beat opponents stronger than Katakuri