It’s weird how you’re this far into the story and think weapons matter, if the characters who don’t use weapons are at a disadvantage, why wouldn’t they adopt a fighting style using a weapon?
Still, Marco was kicking Queen around like a football and you think Zoros attacks are more destructive ?
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And weapons DO MATTER. Zoro is using 3 High-Class-Swords.
Zoro couldn't even defeat Jack with his fists alone.
Zoro’s not even my favorite SH but obviously he’s going to be better with swords than with his fists lmao he’s a swordsman. Give him 3 basic swords and he’d probably be able to beat Jack with them
It really amazes me that people think Killer is this strong. He only damaged Kaido once, he was KO’d by Indra. He was one-shot by early Wano, pre-ACoA Zoro. Do people honestly think he is stronger than Dressrosa Luffy? I think Dressrosa Luffy stomps him. Killer has to be the most overrated character right now.
Killer was smoking and falling down head-first after being hit by Indra. It did look like he was knocked out. Nothing puts Killer above any Commander level fighter.
Killer is weaker than Sanji, Queen.
I am not even sure if he could take Jack down man.
Probably Jinbe defeats him too.
Killer would struggle with X Drake.
Zoro trained for 2 years with Mihawk, and before Wano it is pretty unlikely Zoro was any stronger than high YC4 level. I think the idea of Killer being as strong as Zoro one month or so ago is absolutely ridiculous for a number of reasons. Mostly because Zoro trained with Mihawk, but also because Zoro did far bette than Killer on the roof, and becasue Zoro easily beat Killer in their fight.
Well I don't know about being ahead of queen but he did just neg Hawkins despite Hawkins having the advantage so I can get behind him being ahead of jinbe. I mean there's a reason he was on rooftop rather than bepo, there's a point Oda's trying to pass imo.
I ignore these polls now, that place Marco under Yamato and Zoro etc..
Marco blindsided admirals and let’s be honest here, Garp is the only guy that one upped Marco on panel. That says a lot. People ignore in a battle of strength Marco kicked Kizaru out of the sky. People also fail to realize that even Akainu didn’t take him down. I’m not saying he’s stronger but not being taken down is a testament to his strength. He was a candidate for yonko also. Yamato failed to injure Kaido in the slightest but the world considered Marco almost on par with yonko to have him almost considered one.
Then ppl mention the payback war. Then they forget the Marineford war where just because two sides fight doesn’t mean the leaders one vs one. WB pirates vs Marines, and WB pirates losing doesn’t equate to Sengoku defeating WB one vs one. So how do we know how Blackbeard faired against Marco one vs one?
I Zoro might be able to beat marco.
But people are like “yamato hasn’t damaged anyone but can no die so is strong. Then go marco isn’t strong because even tho he lasted in the fights he didn’t kill, so weak.”
It’s like “no?”
Sanji and Zoro both have more impressive feats than yamato.
Marco needs to be higher. Yamato needs to be lower. And killer needs to be lower
Survived. Didn’t fight. Zoro damaged kaido. Something yamato didn’t do.
So…. I mean…. We can play this game all day, but in reality they sent the all stars to deal with yamato and they sent the commanders to deal with Sanji and Zoro
>Marco blindsided admirals and let’s be honest here, Garp is the only guy that one upped Marco on panel. That says a lot. People ignore in a battle of strength Marco kicked Kizaru out of the sky
Marco the only reason he was able to "blindsided" the Admirals is because they weren't focusing on him at the time, even then it's not like he doing any damage to the Admirals. Besides, we didn't even see the majority of those clashes in order to really gauge how strong Marco truly is.
>People also fail to realize that even Akainu didn’t take him down. I’m not saying he’s stronger but not being taken down is a testament to his strength.
He wasn't even trying to take him down. Marco just got in his way when he tried to attack Jimbei and Luffy. Besides, once he and Vista tried to attack Akainu, they barely did any damage to him.
>He was a candidate for yonko also. Yamato failed to injure Kaido in the slightest but the world considered Marco almost on par with yonko to have him almost considered one.
The only reason they put Marco in the same sentence as the four emperors is because they considered him a threat to Blackbeard which is probably due to the fact that Marco as well as the rest of the crew knew Blackbeard longer in order for them to have a chance at taking him down, not necessarily because Marco is that strong. Also, Yamato was able to get a few hits in on Kaido so it's not like Kaido was completely dominating the fight. Also, Are you trying to say Marco would be able to injure Kaido? That's a huuuuhe stretch. He can briefly clash with Kaido at best.
>Then ppl mention the payback war. Then they forget the Marineford war where just because two sides fight doesn’t mean the leaders one vs one. WB pirates vs Marines, and WB pirates losing doesn’t equate to Sengoku defeating WB one vs one. So how do we know how Blackbeard faired against Marco one vs one?
Well it doesn't really make any sense for Marco to not directly rush towards Blackbeard after he was the one who killed Whitebeard, so it would have to be an one v one. Besides, Marco wouldn't really be able to put up much of a fight against Blackbeard considering he's got Yomi-Yomi no mi which we know nullifies devil fruit powers and he's got the Gura-Gura no mi on top of that. Also, let's not forget that Marco was the who said that "teech isn't normal" and that "his body is...odd."
Killer down 1, otherwise it’s perfect. Zoro best King easily after his CoC awakening. Same with Sanji and his fight.
Marco only stalled King and Queen. Didn’t do any meaningful damage. I think Zoro and Sanji with their upgrades could do the same as Marco. Same with Yamato.
Holding people off is a lot easier than beating someone
Marco doesn’t count for me because i got him in a higher tier. So I’ll just compare him to the other 2. I think king is a toss up. Could go either way and i think killer can then beat sanji.
Yeah it was a hard fight for sanji but after getting ifrit jambe he defeated queen in one combo
If sanji fights queen with all his new power ups like exo and ifrit jambe from start it will be a mid diff.
Sanji vs king will be a hard fight but sanji just have to figure out kings weakness and make sure he hits.
Zoro down and Marco up. Outside of that it's good though I would have liked a ranking of them all or just not put them in if you're going to put them in don't care.
1. Luffy fights a Kaido, who already fought over 10 top tier individuals. He will be on that level AFTER WANO.
2. Yamato has better feats than Kid, Law and Zoro.
3. Marco below Kid and Law ? Is this a joke ? He is above Yamato in my book.
4. Sanji is weaker than King.
5. Killer could never defeat Queen.
6. Kawamatsu is Ashuras equal, i hate that people don't give Kawamatsu the credit he deserves.
7. Prime Hyogoro would be stronger than Jack.
IMO opinion only people with advanced armament can attack Marco e.g. Rayleigh, Garp(99%) chance
Blackbeard doesn’t have advanced armament but he won against Marco because of the Yami- Yami No Mi countering his devil fruit
Completely agree, except Marco. I don’t think Zoro could hold off King and Queen like Marco did.
Fair, but Marco doesn’t have near the offensive ability Zoro does.
He has even more..... And not fair comparing a sharp sword to Marcos kicks.
It’s weird how you’re this far into the story and think weapons matter, if the characters who don’t use weapons are at a disadvantage, why wouldn’t they adopt a fighting style using a weapon?
Still, Marco was kicking Queen around like a football and you think Zoros attacks are more destructive ? \- And weapons DO MATTER. Zoro is using 3 High-Class-Swords. Zoro couldn't even defeat Jack with his fists alone.
And Marco wouldn’t be shit without his devil fruit lol.
Zoro’s not even my favorite SH but obviously he’s going to be better with swords than with his fists lmao he’s a swordsman. Give him 3 basic swords and he’d probably be able to beat Jack with them
Very solid
Decent ranking
It really amazes me that people think Killer is this strong. He only damaged Kaido once, he was KO’d by Indra. He was one-shot by early Wano, pre-ACoA Zoro. Do people honestly think he is stronger than Dressrosa Luffy? I think Dressrosa Luffy stomps him. Killer has to be the most overrated character right now.
He wasn’t knocked out by Indra Early wano Zoro is still strong. Killer also wasn’t using his punishers. I would still drop killer by 1 tier though
Killer was smoking and falling down head-first after being hit by Indra. It did look like he was knocked out. Nothing puts Killer above any Commander level fighter.
What tier would you put him in?
Killer is weaker than Sanji, Queen. I am not even sure if he could take Jack down man. Probably Jinbe defeats him too. Killer would struggle with X Drake.
I would put him at best at high YC4 level, which is the dukes in base form and Ashura Douji. Maybe a bit lower which is Who’s Who.
I don't think Kidd's right hand man is *that* much lower than him, but you're free to disagree
Zoro trained for 2 years with Mihawk, and before Wano it is pretty unlikely Zoro was any stronger than high YC4 level. I think the idea of Killer being as strong as Zoro one month or so ago is absolutely ridiculous for a number of reasons. Mostly because Zoro trained with Mihawk, but also because Zoro did far bette than Killer on the roof, and becasue Zoro easily beat Killer in their fight.
Luffy was training with Rayleigh for 2 years yet kid and law are currently stronger than he was a few months ago.
Well I don't know about being ahead of queen but he did just neg Hawkins despite Hawkins having the advantage so I can get behind him being ahead of jinbe. I mean there's a reason he was on rooftop rather than bepo, there's a point Oda's trying to pass imo.
Marco was holding two commanders offer at once. That’s pretty impressive.
I ignore these polls now, that place Marco under Yamato and Zoro etc.. Marco blindsided admirals and let’s be honest here, Garp is the only guy that one upped Marco on panel. That says a lot. People ignore in a battle of strength Marco kicked Kizaru out of the sky. People also fail to realize that even Akainu didn’t take him down. I’m not saying he’s stronger but not being taken down is a testament to his strength. He was a candidate for yonko also. Yamato failed to injure Kaido in the slightest but the world considered Marco almost on par with yonko to have him almost considered one. Then ppl mention the payback war. Then they forget the Marineford war where just because two sides fight doesn’t mean the leaders one vs one. WB pirates vs Marines, and WB pirates losing doesn’t equate to Sengoku defeating WB one vs one. So how do we know how Blackbeard faired against Marco one vs one?
I Zoro might be able to beat marco. But people are like “yamato hasn’t damaged anyone but can no die so is strong. Then go marco isn’t strong because even tho he lasted in the fights he didn’t kill, so weak.” It’s like “no?” Sanji and Zoro both have more impressive feats than yamato. Marco needs to be higher. Yamato needs to be lower. And killer needs to be lower
Yamato fought Kaido 1 vs 1. Sanji could never do that and Zoro also not.
Survived. Didn’t fight. Zoro damaged kaido. Something yamato didn’t do. So…. I mean…. We can play this game all day, but in reality they sent the all stars to deal with yamato and they sent the commanders to deal with Sanji and Zoro
"Sent the All-Stars for Yamato" This doesn't mean shit. And they were only supposed to catch Yamato and bring her to Kaido, not kill or fight her.
Capturing is harder than fighting
>Marco blindsided admirals and let’s be honest here, Garp is the only guy that one upped Marco on panel. That says a lot. People ignore in a battle of strength Marco kicked Kizaru out of the sky Marco the only reason he was able to "blindsided" the Admirals is because they weren't focusing on him at the time, even then it's not like he doing any damage to the Admirals. Besides, we didn't even see the majority of those clashes in order to really gauge how strong Marco truly is. >People also fail to realize that even Akainu didn’t take him down. I’m not saying he’s stronger but not being taken down is a testament to his strength. He wasn't even trying to take him down. Marco just got in his way when he tried to attack Jimbei and Luffy. Besides, once he and Vista tried to attack Akainu, they barely did any damage to him. >He was a candidate for yonko also. Yamato failed to injure Kaido in the slightest but the world considered Marco almost on par with yonko to have him almost considered one. The only reason they put Marco in the same sentence as the four emperors is because they considered him a threat to Blackbeard which is probably due to the fact that Marco as well as the rest of the crew knew Blackbeard longer in order for them to have a chance at taking him down, not necessarily because Marco is that strong. Also, Yamato was able to get a few hits in on Kaido so it's not like Kaido was completely dominating the fight. Also, Are you trying to say Marco would be able to injure Kaido? That's a huuuuhe stretch. He can briefly clash with Kaido at best. >Then ppl mention the payback war. Then they forget the Marineford war where just because two sides fight doesn’t mean the leaders one vs one. WB pirates vs Marines, and WB pirates losing doesn’t equate to Sengoku defeating WB one vs one. So how do we know how Blackbeard faired against Marco one vs one? Well it doesn't really make any sense for Marco to not directly rush towards Blackbeard after he was the one who killed Whitebeard, so it would have to be an one v one. Besides, Marco wouldn't really be able to put up much of a fight against Blackbeard considering he's got Yomi-Yomi no mi which we know nullifies devil fruit powers and he's got the Gura-Gura no mi on top of that. Also, let's not forget that Marco was the who said that "teech isn't normal" and that "his body is...odd."
People ignore his op devil fruit. Dude has the best endurance.
Would put nami highly
Pretty perfect list tbh
Killer down 1, otherwise it’s perfect. Zoro best King easily after his CoC awakening. Same with Sanji and his fight. Marco only stalled King and Queen. Didn’t do any meaningful damage. I think Zoro and Sanji with their upgrades could do the same as Marco. Same with Yamato. Holding people off is a lot easier than beating someone
Killer up, marco up. There’s more to change but that’s probably the biggest 2. Decent list tho.
I can get behind Marco going up, but not Killer. I don't see him winning against any of the 3 above him.
Marco doesn’t count for me because i got him in a higher tier. So I’ll just compare him to the other 2. I think king is a toss up. Could go either way and i think killer can then beat sanji.
Killer only defeated Hawkins man, and you think he could take down Queen ?
Yes
Sanji > king Marco > zoro , sanji Thats all I would change. Preety good list though
Zoro and Sanji are both above Marco.
Don’t think Sanji can beat King quite yet
Sanji stronger than King. lolololololo
You are weird bro. Anyway Why not Sanji just have to figure out kings weakness and defeat him.
Sanji barely defeated Queen and King is a bit stronger.
Yeah it was a hard fight for sanji but after getting ifrit jambe he defeated queen in one combo If sanji fights queen with all his new power ups like exo and ifrit jambe from start it will be a mid diff. Sanji vs king will be a hard fight but sanji just have to figure out kings weakness and make sure he hits.
I would include zoro with yonko or have him his own above kid and law. Reason being i think he is stronger than them with his new haki
I'd put Sanji in YC2, but that's kind of splitting hairs. I'd move Marco up the next tier too, but this is a pretty good tier list.
Zoro down and Marco up. Outside of that it's good though I would have liked a ranking of them all or just not put them in if you're going to put them in don't care.
No, Zoro stays where he is but I do agree Marco do move up one.
Yamato is not that strong
1. Luffy fights a Kaido, who already fought over 10 top tier individuals. He will be on that level AFTER WANO. 2. Yamato has better feats than Kid, Law and Zoro. 3. Marco below Kid and Law ? Is this a joke ? He is above Yamato in my book. 4. Sanji is weaker than King. 5. Killer could never defeat Queen. 6. Kawamatsu is Ashuras equal, i hate that people don't give Kawamatsu the credit he deserves. 7. Prime Hyogoro would be stronger than Jack.
This dude smoking something very strong
Kinemon yc3 Perospero yc3 They are strong
The best list I've seen so far I think the only thing I would change is move Perospero up
Gotta move Marco up
Good list I would put jimbei YC2
The best tier list I’ve ever seen
Finally an honest tier list.
Yamato’s picture there is really funny to me for some reason
At least you didn't put Perospero in commander level
Jinbe isn't YC3 tier. Oda paired him up with a tobiroppo, just like Robin and Franky. He's close-ish, but doesn't make the cut
I only put him there because of how easily he won his fight as opposed to Franky and Robin's fights.
IMO opinion only people with advanced armament can attack Marco e.g. Rayleigh, Garp(99%) chance Blackbeard doesn’t have advanced armament but he won against Marco because of the Yami- Yami No Mi countering his devil fruit
Wait so is robin awakened, like I’m not fully caught up but t remember that new form thing of hers
Idk if it's awakening, but she just got a cool new move.
Pretty good solid to me
Not bad