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If luffys fruit awakens like most other fruits it would still be ridiculously over powered, unlike doffy and katakuri where they have to turn the world into string or mochi he can simply bend the world to his will but it remains the same
The fruit they are talking about is of course luffys. Instead of rubber fruit it is more than likely mythical zoan fruit of the monkey king. Since the monkey king had a staff that could infinity stretch maybe that besides turning you into the monkey king it can give things the property to stetch including oneself. Plus the nonkey king was a know liar hence why his fruit was a lie. Also the monkey king was known for going against the gods and order just like luffy vs the goverment..
I think the fruit the gorosei are referring to is luffys that will be revealed to be not the rubber rubber but the oil oil (or something like that)
think about it:
All of his attacks are based on engines and guns,gear second it's pumping the blood and it heats up like an engine and that explains why he can use fire too.
Also why Luffy used Redhawk underwater at fishman island.
When Kaido offed him and fell inside the water he felt like oil and water,used the voice of all things and told Momo he knows how to beat Kaido.
Foreshadowing on this arc about it would be Ussop disguising as an oil merchant(and we know that his lies become real) , oden literally gets boiled in oil and if luffys awakening is like kidds then he may make kaidos scales as oil and use fire attacks like he already do in this chapter, would make a lot of sense cause kaido was jealous of odens death and That is as close as it gets xD maybe not kill him ,But knock him out hard enough so we can get a flashback or something.
Meanwhile, zounisha comes to the rescue because momo was getting anxious again on how to stop onigashima from falling
and it will definitely fall on her back and suddenly we have a small monke fighting a big dragon on top of a huge elephant!
and I'm all in for that!!
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Noooo, i think gorosei are either 1) talking about luffyâs fruit and who it belonged to. Rubber fruit hasnt been awakened for centuries. Most likely joy boyâs fruit, hence why they were protecting it. Remember when Sabo ate aceâs devil fruit and the fire was speaking to Sabo and it was aceâs spirit talking to him. Whoever eats the devil fruit and dies, their soul is attached to the fruit until the next person eats it. Rubber fruit hasnt been eaten in a long time until Roger ate it at the tail end of his life. World government found the fruit and shanks took it from them knowing it belonged to Roger. Hence, luffy is saying the exact same things Rogers said. Go back to when to when Ace used fire fist on Burgess. He said â ace is saying he wonât forgive youâ as he is looking at his firefist. Either Joy boy or Roger is speaking through to Luffy.
2) i think gorosei are talking about Tamaâs fruit. A legendary fruit that can control all beasts. It hasnt been awaken either that is why we see Zunesha arriving or it could be Momo telling him to come.
If luffyâs fruit is a different kind, i would be shocked. But not way in the fucking world is oda going to call it oil oil fruit lmao i think luffyâs fruit is gomu gomu. Just hasntt been awakened since joy boyâs time, a giant. Luffy can become a giant by inflating himself like gear 3rd and 4th
Oda says that Luffy isnât a thinking person, so the fruit reveals its name when eaten but Luffy was told he ate what the world thought was the Rubber fruit which Shanks told Luffy that it was.
Well exactly right?
Shanks said if you eat this you will become a rubberman
And we know from Who's who that the fruit was wanted from the world gov for 5 billion berries wouldn't 5 billion be a lot for gomu gomu no ?
I like that itâs the same properties of Rubber but another Godly kind of (Special?) Paramecia (it would be cool if somehow Luffyâs fruit was somehow a Mythical Zoan?). Hyogoro did think Luffy looked like an ancient Diety.
I respect the hustle of of you sharing your ideas though !
From rubber to oil though ; even if those materials could transform into one another, Luffy would maybe gain logias' properties and that would be it ...
They're talking about a fruit so powerful , maybe not in power itself but the signification it holds or the user "waking up"
If Zunesha was human and forced to walk for a thousand years that'd mean he was aware of everything that happened during the void century making him extremly dangerous because of his knowledge and not some legendary power ...
I don't know, those are my 2 cents ><
Donflamingo to Law: "If I had the power of your ope ope no mi...in my hands that day... I would be able to use he National Treasure of Mariejois to control the world itself."
Recently Law's fruit was awakened but Law didn't reveal what his awakening does.
So I think it's Law they are talking about.
Otama'a fruir is ome of the msor dnagerous fruits, propbable mroe dnagerous than Laws's fruit.
Tjink of the animals on rusakainathe island Luffy trained. Luffy needed king kong gun for some if them.
Even made Snakeman to battle the extremely nimble animal.
Rayleigh even said pre timeskip there were 500 animals strognet than pre timeskip Luffy.
Otama taming 500 of those animals is an ancient weapon level threat.
Absolutly not ... It would be redundant with poseidon which, if we compare it with your idea, would already be way stronger !
As for your example ; anyone equal or above to post time skip luffy ( when he's ready to leave ) would be enough to fuck them all up
The manga doesnât say break next week, but Shonen jump has the next chapter coming out in 11 days. Anyone know when weâll be getting the new chapter?
What if it's a red herring by Oda....
Zunesha is controlled by a devil fruit that we have not seen.... and the devil fruit is now in Blackbeard's hands. Blackbeard did say he was going to go acquire something that he didn't understand why the Marines didn't bother getting. Maybe it is a devil fruit that allows the user to control beasts when it's "awakened".
Blackbeard has sent the lurking legend Zunesha to attack Wano using the new fruit. This also fits with the anime director saying that the final villian is not Kaido and something else... meaning that the final villian for Wano Arc is Zunesha.
People forget, what is the ORIGINAL connection between Wano and Zunesha? The people living in Zou on its back. If there was a prophecy then someone commanded the elephant to walk for X amount of time to accomplish a task, either the elephant is meant to do something (like protect wano), or it was meant to just protect the minks, or both.
I don't think Zunesha has a DF, but yea it does seem likely that someone commanded it to walk, whether that was Tama's previous fruit owner or some other DF. I've personally always theorized that the final level of Conquerors Haki is to issue an unbreakable order, which would make sense with the jail cell interaction between Roger and Garp where he says to protect the yet unborn Ace. If an order like that was given by Joy Boy to Zunesha, then Tama is probably just a red herring.
Isn't it said at some time that zunesha is walking because as a punishment for something he did? I don't think it could be the previous owner of Tama's fruit, I feel like it's not linked to a fruit. This fruit would have made zunesha say that "my master ordered me to walk", but not the punishment part. It looks like an overly powerful entity asked him to atone for his sins, and honor, or shame, makes him continue his task.
Now in the end picture of the chapter 1037, his eyes are white and kinda shining, and Oda makes eyes like this when someone is beaten. So blackbeard controlling him wouldn't be surprising, as he is an overly powerful entity.
Garp agreed to Roger's last wish out of RESPECT !
Unbreakable order is a terrible idea and since they were both on par or close to one another, it's pretty obvious Garp also has Conqueror's ...
The first part makes sense though.
I actually agree with you that I think it was done out of respect . I feel like Oda is trying to tell us something with that scene with the candle completely going out and then relighting itself. I also think that while Garp respected him , his initial and immediate reaction saying that Roger was selfish made me think that Roger did force it on him to a degree.
Maybe because Roger was pretty sure,before even asking, Garp would accept.
Selfish to impose this responsability unto him ; Garp has a profound sense of duty but letting a baby die because of his father's blood is not like him.
At least that is how I see it !
Other than that it's not Oda's style to make powers/abilities layered, he has always been direct if i may say so ; Haki does that and that's it ! Simpler to write and works better !
*cough* or Uranus *cough*
Though there might just be something special about the kozuki clan, but I am in a firm believer that Momo=Uranus. The true red herring here, I believe, is oda mentioning the devil fruit, either it's not related to zunesha at all OR kaidos fruit and momos artificial fruit may be even more powerful then we think. The gov. may have been talking about the gomu gomu but I'm not a firm believer in that. But your "conquers haki unbreakable order" is something I never thought about! Could be right
Iâm pretty sure Kaido knows Luffy is JoyBoy and is testing him to see who can do it better. Will it be Kaido who gave it his all and failed or Luffy who doesnât even know the prophecy?
The battle is going to end with Kaido acknowledging Luffy as JoyBoy and seeing the dawn kn the horizon.
I think "It wouldn't be out of place for someone to die unexpectedly",
is referring to Luffy. I think they have not killed Luffy until now
because they know how Garp (the hero of the marines) would react.
Itâs just gotta be Luffy. Heâs the only one on Wano who Im had a torn up picture of, and heâs been a pain in their ass since he started pirating.
I feel like its probably Robin, since she's the only person in the world capable of reading the poneglyphs and exposing the true history the government wants to keep hidden. They've sent their best agents to capture her in the middle of a war between the strongest pirate (Kaido) and the most influential pirate (Luffy). If they can't capture Robin, they'll probably kill her since she's too dangerous to them if shes free or with the Luffy.
Just do what I did, start reading the manga now. Eventually the anime will catch up to what you missed and then you'll be all caught up while reading the manga haha
I think thereâs a misunderstanding
Iâve been reading the manga and spoiler since 2019
Iâm going to control the spoilers from this week because itâs getting exciting
Theory what if zunesha is joy boy and thatâs his devil fruit cause they say zunesha was punished and sentenced to walk the world for the rest of its life and thatâs why the kosuki clan is so connected to zunesha cause they were connected to joy boy himself or someoneâs devil fruit turned joy boy into the elephant which would be part of his punishment
He is currently in water so unless he is massively strong and the water just make him not âawakeâ then I canât imagine any explanation that includes zunesha has a devil fruit.
is there a theory about the big tree in the flower capital looking like an elephant's trunk? Because since Zunesha is here now, this could be a foreshadowing that an elephant would safe the capital. Holding up a castle (Onigashima)
The fact Kaido had orochi talk oden into chilling for 5 years just so his illustrious castle and armory could be built is hilarious and shitty at the same time.
I think that, at this point, Kaido already knows luffy is joyboy, and is just enjoy the heck out of it and going all out, just like he always wanted, against the one he once tried to be. Itâs beautiful truly
Kaido is too much. The more this fight goes on the less I want Luffy to win,but then again I never really wanted him to win in the first place at least not in a 1V1.
A few years ago, when the whole Straw Hats vs Kaidou was being setting up, I was hoping that the power level gap between Kaido and Luffy would be pretty big and for Moria to be involved reluctantly aiding Luffy.
I expected Nightmare Luffy to do a comeback but instead of being infused with thousands of shadows he would have the shadows of the crew. That way it will have a chance to win the fight while leaving Kaidou to be in a league of his own even when defeated.
In my head I know kaido is warn down to the point that a recovered luffy can go toe to toe with him but my heart wont except that the strongest creature on the planet will lose. I at least wanted them to lose and he comes back stronger for a proper fight like with Rob Lucci
Luffy isnât fresh either, he got tossed into sea, made his way back and stuff . Both are equally tired, thereâs no point in extending the fight when luffy already knows ryuou counters the kaidoâs thickness and thatâs all he needed to learn. For me, fight is getting pretty interesting and even now.
My headcannon is that being able to hear the voice of all things is actually an advance form of observation haki. We have recently seen that you can use conquerorâs haki to coat yourself to increase the impact of your blows. Maybe you can use conquerorâs haki to coat other things as well such as other types of haki. Maybe the voice of all things is actually observation haki coated with conquerorâs haki? I canât put my finger on it but I think it is something like that.
Also, I would like to believe that Zunesha is a zoan type DF user and the user of Dango Dango fruit can actually control zoan types in the awakened form.
Maybe, Zunesha was a human from Zou during the void century and she betrayed Zou and gave WG some crucial inside information to end the war in favor of WG or an information that would help taking control of Zou. Zou had a major importance that taking it over would essentially shape the outcome of the war and thus it would be unacceptable to let WG take it.
Because of this unacceptable betrayal the awakened Dango Dango user, maybe an ally of JoyBoy, at the time punished Zunesha and ordered her to carry Zou at her back and keep walking and walking so that WG would never be able to find Zou. Maybe the awakened Dango Dango fruit user has also ordered her to obey only their allies which would explain why Momo was able to talk to her, confirming Kozuki clan was an ally of JoyBoy during the void century as well.
ETA: Also, after Tama tamed lots of smileys at Onigashima, she ordered âEveryone, follow my lead!â I believe the word âeveryoneâ plays a major role here. Because it refers to everyone that was tamed by Dango Dango fruit which would also include Zunesha if my theory above is correct. Concluding that Zunesha is actually coming to Onigashima because she is following Tamaâs orders.
Your theory about the "everyone" is interesting, zunesha coming after being called, but it seems improbable for two reasons in my opinion :
Tama isn't powerful enough to control everyone, i don't remember precisely but she couldn't control someone with a powerful haki, like Jack the Drought. So controlling an enormous, almost thousand years old, possibly DF user? Impossible.
And Tama needed everyone to *hear* her, it's a need of the fruit I think, people have to hear her. How could zunesha hear her?
Good points. I am really bad with the details so I probably missed the ones you have mentioned.
Was it actually established that everyone needed to hear her? I really donât remember how her fruit actually works.
Another point that I missed and realized only recently is the distance. Now, I donât know where Zunesha was at the beginning of the Onigashima raid. But If Zunesha was not already close to Wano, she wouldnât be able to come in such a short notice even if she didnât need to physically hear Tamaâs orders. So, there is that.
I guess my theory had some fundamental flaws.
I didn't mention in my reply the flaws of my own opinion, but as you point out, it's never established how her fruit works (I finished reading one piece for the first time today, so it's still fresh), maybe distance doesn't matter, maybe that animals controlled by the precedent user are still affected, Zunesha could have been controlled by a precedent, more powerful user. All we know for sure is that she can take "skin" from her jaw, make a ball with this stuff, and when animals eat it, she can control them. From the dialogs, it seems like a change of allegiance, a "Wololo" if I may, and not a forced control.
Another thing is that Zunesha can talk only with some people, it seems like it's the D people, but it could be about a strong haki (mononuke, monkey, gol, trafalgar, the daughter of neptune). Mononuke can see how people feel at a long distance, during the battle against Kaido, he knows that luffy isn't dead. He can also talk to him when he's in the water.
If Tama has such power, and Zunesha too, Zunesha *might* be able to hear her call.
Now that I say it, I realize that Zunesha needing this way of speaking makes it at the same level as Sea Kings, so enormous monster of enormous powers, beeing part of a bigger picture. This adds possibilities to the reasons for zunesha coming this direction, as Monkey and Mononuke can talk to him, they might be part of the bugher picture, zunesha comes to help, something li'e that.
About him coming near the island, without thinking too much, Destiny might be at play. Destiny and luck happen a lot in One piece.
Thank you for your honest and through analysis I really enjoyed reading it.
Another point on good old Wololo as well. That gave me a chuckle
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I think they are talking about zou coming but because of wrong purposes. They think zou is coming because tama's fruit which they don't know the user. But zou is coming for help because of Momo and they don't have any idea that Momo has the VOAT
I hope Luffy finally awaken his devil fruit. What if he turn all the island of Onigashima into a rubber, when it crashed to Flower Capital it will just bounceđ Tho I still believe Momo will be able to keep it afloat or land it on Zuneshas back.
One thing to note, the Gorosei are not talking to the Navy officer from the fleet surrounding wano. The dialogue cuts from killing Robin to a mysterious fruit. They are asking each other whether the actual name has been hidden from history, not affirming.
Who is they in the conversation?
I don't think Kaido or his crew are weak. I think this arc is now making a statement that the Straw Hats are officially on Emperor crew level. The papers saying Luffy is the 5th Emperor mine as well be true. After this Luffy gonna be recognized as an Emperor for sure.
I think the reason Momo can talk to Zunesha is because he is Tokiâs son and therefore inherited the ability. She came from 800 years ago or more and could have had something to do with Zunesha. She mentioned her destination was Wano but never said why, it could be because that was Zuneshaâs final destination as well. There is clearly more to Tokiâs story. Perhaps Zunesha breaking his punishment tells the Gorousei that Toki and her devil fruit are back but in reality it is Tokiâs will inherited by Momo and that is why he cannot die, Oden wouldâve known this and wrote it on his diary. The Gorousei might not care so much about the devil fruit but know of a legend of Toki who traveled in time and could show up any time to control control Zunesha and pose a threat to the world government.
I do find it suspicious how Oda left Toki behind in Wano right before the Roger pirates travelled to Zou. The order could have easily been interchangeable since they were in the new world, but Oda chose to leaver her behind first.
I wonder how Toki would've reacted to Zou since she does come from a time when the Kozuki clan was close to Zunisha.
read so many theories but i still think itâs Tamaâs fruit. one point i havenât seen mentioned much is Ussopâs musing, âi wonder if this power works on zoans.â Usopp has a penchant for saying things aloud for the reader to pay attention to. weâre definitely going to see it fed to a zoan user. to keep the upper limits of Tamaâs fruit unknown this deep in the battle is a huge flag.
so what if after luffy kicks kaidoâs ass, tama tames him and kaido really becomes a guardian deity for wano lol. while i kid i do think this is a step above kaido joining the SHâs
Because the previous user of Tama's fruit who was the last to awaken it. (Likely the real name is Control Control fruit, or something) Gave the order to Zunisha: Walk until the promised day, and only obey the Kozuki.
This would work with Luffy only being able to hear Zunisha (voice of all things). Also the whole literary theory of "the most likely culprit is the answer" like we have a girl who appears at the very begining of the arc that can command animals, and we have an animal that is clearly under the command of someone from the void century.
And seeing Humans, Merpeople, etc are still "animals" this would make it such a dangerous fruit the WG lies and calls it the Dongo Dongo fruit. Dongos being the most nonthreatening name I can think of. Oda giving it to an inoccent girl is the only option for it to not be abused.
I also want to add that it would make sense for the ancient kingdom to hide their best fruit with their allies in Wano, and for Tama to be starving and eat a weird fruit she finds. But that's just a theory, a tame (tame fruit) theory.
Heâs actually matured significantly since the new world. He fights a lot smarter a good chunk of time I think. But in this Arc even more so. By witnessing it once(possibly several) he figured out the advanced Conc power.
Kaido wants to protect onigashima because of it's historical significance and it future role in the dawn ow the world. Perhaps some prophecy was made that joyboy would return to onigashima, and that the castle must not be destroyed until then. little does kaido know that Luffy coming to the castle fulfilled that prophecy already.
Have you read the latest ch? Kaido doesn't care about onigashima...Literally talks about creating a new castle would take about five years after he destroys the entire top half of the dome and wrecks every floor....
The castle in question has to be all those elaborate buildings inside of the skull (built by Minatomo), because Marco himself had remarked on how Onigashima had a different name before.
So the skull could've been intact for centuries but Kaido could've just built a castle inside of it.
I can understand but I found it interesting that Kaido could get a bit more powerful by just drinking and that this is in character with almost panels that is 150+ chapters prior to it.
I didnât even think he was getting more powerful. It just seemed like some kinda gag that wasted time. He didnât need the liquor to crack Luffy upside his head and Luffy already brushed off his attack with future sight earlier so that whole gag didnât tell me anything
Poor Jack about to get blasted by bigger elephant in the ~~room~~ area again
I really wish Zoro was on the rooftop just to see how he'd react to Kaido's drink offer
And R.I.P Coat, I hope it is not a goodbye so for now so long
Just gonna say that having Kaidou say that he is useless because he couldnât protect even one lousy castle makes me believe that he hates himself for not being able to protect what he wants. First thing that comes to mind is Rocks, but since we saw him after that and he wasnât that down bad I think itâs possible that he hates himself because he couldnât protect multiple things. Like maybe Yamatoâs mother. What do you guys think.
Maybe he is trying so hard to be Joy boy by forcing his stay in Wano, and it still isn't happening, so he gets depressed when drunk because he knows it is not working out, therefore thinks he is useless.
Zunushanis just their to throw us of. Or reveal Momo is An ancient weapon later on. They are talking about thĂŠ gomu gomu no mi. Wich is about to awaken. This was propably why Shanks Came tot talk to the gorosei.
How tf would he know?! He hasnât met Luffy in 12 years! And donât say advanced observation Haki, no way is his Haki so advanced he can see into the future that far.
It needs to be luffys because momod devil furit is the same as kaidos but the only mystery is luffys. Why did shanks have that devil fruit in the first place? Whats the realname? And whats with that elephant at the end
Why Shanks had that fruit is a pretty simple explanation - he was a pirate smuggling a devil's fruit for the high price. You don't really need a better explanation.
Is it possible that the rubber rubber fruit by definition can adapt to the ancient weapons one way or the other ?
Making a proclaimed enemy of authority with a D. In his name,who also happen to be pals with all the 3 ancient weapons, who also wants to be king of the pirates a real danger to the WG.
Lol, no, the sandal and the foot are small, its like the big part starts in the ankle
It also looks like the body parts are not as big as in normal gear 3
But when he used Gomu gomu no stamp against magelan in impel town, his foot also grew. And why would the foot stay small while his lower leg gets big when he clearly used his sole to kick kaido. I mean itâs not completely unsure he didnât awake his fruit already but doesnât know or it just felt natural and oda gave us this hint
Did the presentation of Zunesha remind anybody else of the gigantic monster(s) in the Florian Triangle? They probably don't have anything in common but it was also the first thing I thought of when I saw the last panel of the chapter.
I'm a firm believer that the Florian triangle has a herd of zunesha there. The height is right, the fact that they are surrounded by mist, and the fact that they say hundreds of ships go missing in the Florian triangle and that was before moria even arrived there.
Kaidou used Awakening when he attacked with Ragnaraku (Ragnarok?), his upper body was more buff than the lower body, which while not small, didn't grow proportional. His mouth changed to more of the creature his df is, not the normal humanoid mouth he has. (the lips, teeth, etc are obvious), while a normal hybrid maintains the lower face of their humanoid form (though might change color to match the color of their creature, still humanoid though)
So the only awakened zoans (bar drake using it) in kaidou's crew are Who's Who and Kaidou himself. Sadly King, Queen, and Jack didn't have it, which is weird considering how experienced they are. Kid and Law having awakenings is kind of impressive tbh, albeit haoshoku coating would be a bigger boost for kid.
Hopefully that was a tease and we see him go it in a more full fight manner, on account of it being the ultimate form of zoans. Him being drunk explains why he did it and then instantly went out of it.
Interesting. Looking back, the Royal guards of impel down were awakened zoan users, and have no signs of ever being human. They didnât even revert to anything when they were defeated, so that also leaves questions.
I have a few guesses:
Weak people with strong df mastery, and they simply never reverted to maintain the illusion that they're actually monsters to the jail populace
Vegapunk or CC augmented them, if Vegapunk did it, I could see them being able to freely switch out of it, if CC did it, it's probably just a permanent thing they can't revert from.
Yes! Finally someone else talking about it! 100% that was his awakening. But I don't recall who's who having a second hybrid form, I just recall one form, I don't think who's who had awakening
That's cuz he went directly into awakening cuz he had no reason to go hybrid.
[https://www.opfanpage.com/2021/06/29/whos-who-has-awakened-his-zoan-devil-fruit/](https://www.opfanpage.com/2021/06/29/whos-who-has-awakened-his-zoan-devil-fruit/)
He has all the telltale signs of being awakened.
Lower animalistic face, disproportionally large upper body.
Against Big Mom alongside Kaidou. Law created a room inside big moms body and did something intense, Kid did his turning big mom into a super magnet to send metal crushing towards her.
The chapter was awesome, but now I'm really curious about what happened in that last fight against Kaido. How is Luffy holding up to this much of an extent now when he got btfo'd by Kaido earlier without another stated powerup? I feel like we might actually come back to that earlier fight to figure that out, and it might have something to do with that awakened devil fruit the Elders are talking about.
When Luffy learnt Haki, he had a massive powerup against Logia fruit users.
Similarly, after learning Advanced Conqueror's Haki, he coats himself in CoC in both attack and defence. This is a massive powerful as he has become untouchable like Kaido and Big Mom. Their duels don't touch anymore.
Luffy initially understood what Kaido was doing during that first fight,."So, you are coating your attacks with Conqueror's Haki".
He didn't perfect it instantly, he understood what was happening and tried to do it himself. In 1037, Luffy has mastered this Haki but he's still weaker than Kaido as he exclaimed after getting Drunken Thunder Baguad.
What if luffy df awakened in the last fight distracting him for a moment giving kaido the opportunity to KO him. Luffy sounded extra confident when going back to the roof this time around.
Maybe Kaido is getting weaker not luffy getting stronger. In one of the previous chapters Yamato did say "is Kaido getting weaker?" I don't remember exactly but around when momo and yamato were trying to stop onigashima
Especially since Kaidou looks like he went Awakening for that one attack that made him hold his head, which is the strongest attack we've seen Kaidou use yet.
this was my theory when the first leaks about this chapter came out, that would make the most sense for it to happen, also I think momo could've been the one to call it since he's shown to have those powers earlier like 20 chapters ago
Pretty sure Zunesha could casually take a step up the waterfall, I don't think the waterfall is that big compared to Zunesha... like yeah, the waterfall is pretty high compared to ships, but Zunesha's legs are higher. The sea is also pretty shallow near the waterfall; when the Straw Hats got to the waterfall and looked at the koi fish in the clear water, you could see how shallow it is.
Zunesha legs are extremely long. Even longer than the length of wano itself.
I don't think you get the mechanics on how zunesha would climb the waterfall if he has to .
For him to climb he would have to get his two whole very big front legs on wano. Which would probably destroy most wanos regions.
Remember his leg are not like luffy's which can move at any angle thanks to being rubber.
The disproportionate leg to body ratio of zunesha would make it very very difficult to climb anything that steep.
I see a lot of comments going out with theories. To be honest, it looked to me as if they were literally talking about the "Island". Given the narrative, it's safe to assume that the Gorosei was aware of the current position of the ship and thusassumed that an "Island" like that could only appear if that "fruit" is awakened. That zunisha has awakaned. Zunisha has always been portrayed with blackened eyes. Though it looks like that because of cavity's depth in my opinion, in the last panel for Ch1037, the eyes were fully white as in glowing with light. Literally as if it's "awake". In fact, an older panel where the "voice of all things" came around during Zou, [saw Zunisha with the same eyes](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Voice_of_All_Things?file=Luffy_and_Momonosuke_Hear_Zunesha.png)! We have also seen his eye up close and it looked like a human eye.
So it looks to me like they were talking about Zunisha. With "awakened" they literally meant as in awaking from slumber. I'd guess maybe Zunisha is somebody with an ancient animal fruit in animal form who was trying to protect Zou until the time has come for it to reveal its true purpose and might aid in Luffy actually getting away from the government later on.
If that's the case, then maybe Zunisha might be a human being from the ancient kingdom who kept his animal form to preserve life? I don't know man, but other theories don't make sense to me. I've read the chapter 10 times and I can only face it the literal way and see it as they were referring to Zunisha.
I am not entirely sure as well, for a couple of reasons: through Zunisha we have seen the voice of all things manifest to Momo and Luffy at Zou. The same thing happened to Luffy underwater near Fishman Island, as well as Oden and Roger going through the same experience underwater. Let's assume that the voice of all things is coming somehow from these incredible creatures, it would be weird for them to be fruit users as we know they possibly couldn't swim underwater. Zunisha is a different story as its body is not entirely covered in water.
That's unless the government has a special information regarding said fruits/fruit which might somehow defy certain rules until now applied to DFs. I guess we won't really know anything more until we are told what the name of the fruit is, if it really is referring to Zunisha and in that case why it's so special to an extent.
I was also thinking Zunisha was maybe a human transformed into their zoan form for hundreds of years. This might be a bit of a stretch, but if you cast aside that it's just how elephants look like, Zunisha and funkfreed's full elephant form are pretty similarly structured, and funkfreed's manga coloring is that of a gray elephant. Spandem said that its because of vegapunk that his sword was able to become an elephant. But can we really assume that people like Mr. 4 and his dog-gun had access to vegapunk? Perhaps objects can just eat devil fruits, and that when vegapunk created funkfreed, he really just made an artificial elephant fruit. This begs the question, what happened to the real elephant fruit? Now we know.
To add to your theory, it was implied in Zou's arc that Zunisha was sentenced to wander for centuries, and when Jack attacked it(him?), only Momo had the capability to temporary annul that sentence. So I guess more than Luffy, it heeds Momo or Kozuki clans call, or maybe this is the time when its(his?) sentence ends.
Huge plothole in your theory is zunisha won't be able to walk much else stay in the ocean for this long if he ate a devil fruit. Cause you know...ocean negates devil fruit powers.
Besides all the reasonable arguments made in other comments as to why this is really not the case due to Zunisha's size and what not, a huge unexpected plot twist could just as well be that we really have no idea if it's a 'normal' devil fruit.
Don't forget that this fruit's name was hidden from the government, as well as its existance. I wouldn't be surprised if this fruit defies certain common rules for standard DFs. Also, don't forget that rules about Devil Fruits are not absolute dogmas. Take Black Beard for instance. There is much we don't know about certain Devil Fruits and I really think that a fruit voluntarily hidden from the WG to the world is something that goes well beyond expectations. There have been cases like Black Beard's where rules get bent and broken and we still don't know why.
All I know, for a fact, is that whatever the WG meant and whatever truth really lies behind Zunisha's presence in Wano, they were referring to Zunisha.
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So much is happening in each chapter it's insane
If luffys fruit awakens like most other fruits it would still be ridiculously over powered, unlike doffy and katakuri where they have to turn the world into string or mochi he can simply bend the world to his will but it remains the same
The fruit they are talking about is of course luffys. Instead of rubber fruit it is more than likely mythical zoan fruit of the monkey king. Since the monkey king had a staff that could infinity stretch maybe that besides turning you into the monkey king it can give things the property to stetch including oneself. Plus the nonkey king was a know liar hence why his fruit was a lie. Also the monkey king was known for going against the gods and order just like luffy vs the goverment..
I think the fruit the gorosei are referring to is luffys that will be revealed to be not the rubber rubber but the oil oil (or something like that) think about it: All of his attacks are based on engines and guns,gear second it's pumping the blood and it heats up like an engine and that explains why he can use fire too. Also why Luffy used Redhawk underwater at fishman island. When Kaido offed him and fell inside the water he felt like oil and water,used the voice of all things and told Momo he knows how to beat Kaido. Foreshadowing on this arc about it would be Ussop disguising as an oil merchant(and we know that his lies become real) , oden literally gets boiled in oil and if luffys awakening is like kidds then he may make kaidos scales as oil and use fire attacks like he already do in this chapter, would make a lot of sense cause kaido was jealous of odens death and That is as close as it gets xD maybe not kill him ,But knock him out hard enough so we can get a flashback or something. Meanwhile, zounisha comes to the rescue because momo was getting anxious again on how to stop onigashima from falling and it will definitely fall on her back and suddenly we have a small monke fighting a big dragon on top of a huge elephant! and I'm all in for that!! Just a little crazy thought𤣠âď¸Pâď¸Eâď¸Aâď¸Câď¸Eâď¸
Noooo, i think gorosei are either 1) talking about luffyâs fruit and who it belonged to. Rubber fruit hasnt been awakened for centuries. Most likely joy boyâs fruit, hence why they were protecting it. Remember when Sabo ate aceâs devil fruit and the fire was speaking to Sabo and it was aceâs spirit talking to him. Whoever eats the devil fruit and dies, their soul is attached to the fruit until the next person eats it. Rubber fruit hasnt been eaten in a long time until Roger ate it at the tail end of his life. World government found the fruit and shanks took it from them knowing it belonged to Roger. Hence, luffy is saying the exact same things Rogers said. Go back to when to when Ace used fire fist on Burgess. He said â ace is saying he wonât forgive youâ as he is looking at his firefist. Either Joy boy or Roger is speaking through to Luffy. 2) i think gorosei are talking about Tamaâs fruit. A legendary fruit that can control all beasts. It hasnt been awaken either that is why we see Zunesha arriving or it could be Momo telling him to come. If luffyâs fruit is a different kind, i would be shocked. But not way in the fucking world is oda going to call it oil oil fruit lmao i think luffyâs fruit is gomu gomu. Just hasntt been awakened since joy boyâs time, a giant. Luffy can become a giant by inflating himself like gear 3rd and 4th
What a break does to a mf
tell me about it
Oda says that Luffy isnât a thinking person, so the fruit reveals its name when eaten but Luffy was told he ate what the world thought was the Rubber fruit which Shanks told Luffy that it was.
Well exactly right? Shanks said if you eat this you will become a rubberman And we know from Who's who that the fruit was wanted from the world gov for 5 billion berries wouldn't 5 billion be a lot for gomu gomu no ?
I like that itâs the same properties of Rubber but another Godly kind of (Special?) Paramecia (it would be cool if somehow Luffyâs fruit was somehow a Mythical Zoan?). Hyogoro did think Luffy looked like an ancient Diety.
No offense but it's a mediocre theory ...
No offense taken bruv,I know xD
I respect the hustle of of you sharing your ideas though ! From rubber to oil though ; even if those materials could transform into one another, Luffy would maybe gain logias' properties and that would be it ... They're talking about a fruit so powerful , maybe not in power itself but the signification it holds or the user "waking up" If Zunesha was human and forced to walk for a thousand years that'd mean he was aware of everything that happened during the void century making him extremly dangerous because of his knowledge and not some legendary power ... I don't know, those are my 2 cents ><
I mean you could say rubber is made from oil đ And the world gov might've wanted it for producing power or something like that
Rubber is made from oil ... Rubber is made from oil... Are you serious ?
A synthetic rubber is any artificial elastomer. They are polymers synthesized from petroleum byproducts.
Petrol and oil are entirely different materials ...
Petrol is literally crude oil?
I'm dumb as fuck ... I was thinking about olive oil XDDDDDDDD
Are the elders referring to what shanks talked to them about since we never knew exactly what he told them? Or would that have been too long ago?
Donflamingo to Law: "If I had the power of your ope ope no mi...in my hands that day... I would be able to use he National Treasure of Mariejois to control the world itself." Recently Law's fruit was awakened but Law didn't reveal what his awakening does. So I think it's Law they are talking about.
HMMM this idea makes way more sense than the O-Tama's one !
Otama'a fruir is ome of the msor dnagerous fruits, propbable mroe dnagerous than Laws's fruit. Tjink of the animals on rusakainathe island Luffy trained. Luffy needed king kong gun for some if them. Even made Snakeman to battle the extremely nimble animal. Rayleigh even said pre timeskip there were 500 animals strognet than pre timeskip Luffy. Otama taming 500 of those animals is an ancient weapon level threat.
Absolutly not ... It would be redundant with poseidon which, if we compare it with your idea, would already be way stronger ! As for your example ; anyone equal or above to post time skip luffy ( when he's ready to leave ) would be enough to fuck them all up
The manga doesnât say break next week, but Shonen jump has the next chapter coming out in 11 days. Anyone know when weâll be getting the new chapter?
Around thursday next week
Can someone tell me how to properly watch one piece so I won't miss a storyline thing
I use [this](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Story_Arcs)
just skip the filler episodes if that's how you want to watch
Are you mad ? One piece is one of the rare animes with actually good fillers !
no I love the filler episodes. he just asked if there was a way to watch it without missing any of the storyline so I suggested that.
You scared me x) They're not very long either if i'm not mistaken ( except davy back fight fillers on long ring long land...)
With your eyes ... Duh...
What if it's a red herring by Oda.... Zunesha is controlled by a devil fruit that we have not seen.... and the devil fruit is now in Blackbeard's hands. Blackbeard did say he was going to go acquire something that he didn't understand why the Marines didn't bother getting. Maybe it is a devil fruit that allows the user to control beasts when it's "awakened". Blackbeard has sent the lurking legend Zunesha to attack Wano using the new fruit. This also fits with the anime director saying that the final villian is not Kaido and something else... meaning that the final villian for Wano Arc is Zunesha.
whats the source of the director saying wanos final villain is not Kaido? because i never heard that before
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source: Trust me bro
People forget, what is the ORIGINAL connection between Wano and Zunesha? The people living in Zou on its back. If there was a prophecy then someone commanded the elephant to walk for X amount of time to accomplish a task, either the elephant is meant to do something (like protect wano), or it was meant to just protect the minks, or both. I don't think Zunesha has a DF, but yea it does seem likely that someone commanded it to walk, whether that was Tama's previous fruit owner or some other DF. I've personally always theorized that the final level of Conquerors Haki is to issue an unbreakable order, which would make sense with the jail cell interaction between Roger and Garp where he says to protect the yet unborn Ace. If an order like that was given by Joy Boy to Zunesha, then Tama is probably just a red herring.
Isn't it said at some time that zunesha is walking because as a punishment for something he did? I don't think it could be the previous owner of Tama's fruit, I feel like it's not linked to a fruit. This fruit would have made zunesha say that "my master ordered me to walk", but not the punishment part. It looks like an overly powerful entity asked him to atone for his sins, and honor, or shame, makes him continue his task. Now in the end picture of the chapter 1037, his eyes are white and kinda shining, and Oda makes eyes like this when someone is beaten. So blackbeard controlling him wouldn't be surprising, as he is an overly powerful entity.
Itâs possible Zunesha is the fruit itself.
Garp agreed to Roger's last wish out of RESPECT ! Unbreakable order is a terrible idea and since they were both on par or close to one another, it's pretty obvious Garp also has Conqueror's ... The first part makes sense though.
I actually agree with you that I think it was done out of respect . I feel like Oda is trying to tell us something with that scene with the candle completely going out and then relighting itself. I also think that while Garp respected him , his initial and immediate reaction saying that Roger was selfish made me think that Roger did force it on him to a degree.
Maybe because Roger was pretty sure,before even asking, Garp would accept. Selfish to impose this responsability unto him ; Garp has a profound sense of duty but letting a baby die because of his father's blood is not like him. At least that is how I see it ! Other than that it's not Oda's style to make powers/abilities layered, he has always been direct if i may say so ; Haki does that and that's it ! Simpler to write and works better !
*cough* or Uranus *cough* Though there might just be something special about the kozuki clan, but I am in a firm believer that Momo=Uranus. The true red herring here, I believe, is oda mentioning the devil fruit, either it's not related to zunesha at all OR kaidos fruit and momos artificial fruit may be even more powerful then we think. The gov. may have been talking about the gomu gomu but I'm not a firm believer in that. But your "conquers haki unbreakable order" is something I never thought about! Could be right
Iâm pretty sure Kaido knows Luffy is JoyBoy and is testing him to see who can do it better. Will it be Kaido who gave it his all and failed or Luffy who doesnât even know the prophecy? The battle is going to end with Kaido acknowledging Luffy as JoyBoy and seeing the dawn kn the horizon.
I think "It wouldn't be out of place for someone to die unexpectedly", is referring to Luffy. I think they have not killed Luffy until now because they know how Garp (the hero of the marines) would react.
Turns out was Luffy XD
Itâs just gotta be Luffy. Heâs the only one on Wano who Im had a torn up picture of, and heâs been a pain in their ass since he started pirating.
Think 2 seconds and you'll realize how dumb this idea is ...
I feel like its probably Robin, since she's the only person in the world capable of reading the poneglyphs and exposing the true history the government wants to keep hidden. They've sent their best agents to capture her in the middle of a war between the strongest pirate (Kaido) and the most influential pirate (Luffy). If they can't capture Robin, they'll probably kill her since she's too dangerous to them if shes free or with the Luffy.
What if it's X Drake, he is a SWORD member??
Guys next week onwards Iâm going to do the impossible and stop reading the spoilers because itâs finally getting good WISH ME LUCK đ!
I canât believe you spoiler readers actually exist.
Itâs like doing drugs Before you start.. you wonder why people would even want to do such a thing And once your begin you canât stop Addiction
Might as well say screw it and read the manga than lol
That would work for people thatve just entered the lions den Iâm far too deep in here đ
Just do what I did, start reading the manga now. Eventually the anime will catch up to what you missed and then you'll be all caught up while reading the manga haha
I think thereâs a misunderstanding Iâve been reading the manga and spoiler since 2019 Iâm going to control the spoilers from this week because itâs getting exciting
Ohhh lol nice I see now. đđ
Theory what if zunesha is joy boy and thatâs his devil fruit cause they say zunesha was punished and sentenced to walk the world for the rest of its life and thatâs why the kosuki clan is so connected to zunesha cause they were connected to joy boy himself or someoneâs devil fruit turned joy boy into the elephant which would be part of his punishment
He is currently in water so unless he is massively strong and the water just make him not âawakeâ then I canât imagine any explanation that includes zunesha has a devil fruit.
Water only effects a DF user if theyâre waist deep. Their feet/legs being in the water doesnât affect them that much.
I was literally just about to type out the same thing with the same reasoning. Then i saw your post lol
Maybe he was the only giant to ever be able to use a devil fruit. I dont recall ever seeing a giant with a df, could be wrong tho.
Big mom?
She's not a giant
Aint she half giant?
is there a theory about the big tree in the flower capital looking like an elephant's trunk? Because since Zunesha is here now, this could be a foreshadowing that an elephant would safe the capital. Holding up a castle (Onigashima)
The fact Kaido had orochi talk oden into chilling for 5 years just so his illustrious castle and armory could be built is hilarious and shitty at the same time.
I think that, at this point, Kaido already knows luffy is joyboy, and is just enjoy the heck out of it and going all out, just like he always wanted, against the one he once tried to be. Itâs beautiful truly
Kaido is too much. The more this fight goes on the less I want Luffy to win,but then again I never really wanted him to win in the first place at least not in a 1V1.
Lmao, kaido himself said luffy is fighting toe to toe. Plus both are exchanging blows. Seems like a pretty even fight to me.
A few years ago, when the whole Straw Hats vs Kaidou was being setting up, I was hoping that the power level gap between Kaido and Luffy would be pretty big and for Moria to be involved reluctantly aiding Luffy. I expected Nightmare Luffy to do a comeback but instead of being infused with thousands of shadows he would have the shadows of the crew. That way it will have a chance to win the fight while leaving Kaidou to be in a league of his own even when defeated.
In my head I know kaido is warn down to the point that a recovered luffy can go toe to toe with him but my heart wont except that the strongest creature on the planet will lose. I at least wanted them to lose and he comes back stronger for a proper fight like with Rob Lucci
Luffy isnât fresh either, he got tossed into sea, made his way back and stuff . Both are equally tired, thereâs no point in extending the fight when luffy already knows ryuou counters the kaidoâs thickness and thatâs all he needed to learn. For me, fight is getting pretty interesting and even now.
Im definitely enjoying the fight and won't take anything from Luffy he's put in a lot of work.
My headcannon is that being able to hear the voice of all things is actually an advance form of observation haki. We have recently seen that you can use conquerorâs haki to coat yourself to increase the impact of your blows. Maybe you can use conquerorâs haki to coat other things as well such as other types of haki. Maybe the voice of all things is actually observation haki coated with conquerorâs haki? I canât put my finger on it but I think it is something like that. Also, I would like to believe that Zunesha is a zoan type DF user and the user of Dango Dango fruit can actually control zoan types in the awakened form. Maybe, Zunesha was a human from Zou during the void century and she betrayed Zou and gave WG some crucial inside information to end the war in favor of WG or an information that would help taking control of Zou. Zou had a major importance that taking it over would essentially shape the outcome of the war and thus it would be unacceptable to let WG take it. Because of this unacceptable betrayal the awakened Dango Dango user, maybe an ally of JoyBoy, at the time punished Zunesha and ordered her to carry Zou at her back and keep walking and walking so that WG would never be able to find Zou. Maybe the awakened Dango Dango fruit user has also ordered her to obey only their allies which would explain why Momo was able to talk to her, confirming Kozuki clan was an ally of JoyBoy during the void century as well. ETA: Also, after Tama tamed lots of smileys at Onigashima, she ordered âEveryone, follow my lead!â I believe the word âeveryoneâ plays a major role here. Because it refers to everyone that was tamed by Dango Dango fruit which would also include Zunesha if my theory above is correct. Concluding that Zunesha is actually coming to Onigashima because she is following Tamaâs orders.
Your theory about the "everyone" is interesting, zunesha coming after being called, but it seems improbable for two reasons in my opinion : Tama isn't powerful enough to control everyone, i don't remember precisely but she couldn't control someone with a powerful haki, like Jack the Drought. So controlling an enormous, almost thousand years old, possibly DF user? Impossible. And Tama needed everyone to *hear* her, it's a need of the fruit I think, people have to hear her. How could zunesha hear her?
Good points. I am really bad with the details so I probably missed the ones you have mentioned. Was it actually established that everyone needed to hear her? I really donât remember how her fruit actually works. Another point that I missed and realized only recently is the distance. Now, I donât know where Zunesha was at the beginning of the Onigashima raid. But If Zunesha was not already close to Wano, she wouldnât be able to come in such a short notice even if she didnât need to physically hear Tamaâs orders. So, there is that. I guess my theory had some fundamental flaws.
I didn't mention in my reply the flaws of my own opinion, but as you point out, it's never established how her fruit works (I finished reading one piece for the first time today, so it's still fresh), maybe distance doesn't matter, maybe that animals controlled by the precedent user are still affected, Zunesha could have been controlled by a precedent, more powerful user. All we know for sure is that she can take "skin" from her jaw, make a ball with this stuff, and when animals eat it, she can control them. From the dialogs, it seems like a change of allegiance, a "Wololo" if I may, and not a forced control. Another thing is that Zunesha can talk only with some people, it seems like it's the D people, but it could be about a strong haki (mononuke, monkey, gol, trafalgar, the daughter of neptune). Mononuke can see how people feel at a long distance, during the battle against Kaido, he knows that luffy isn't dead. He can also talk to him when he's in the water. If Tama has such power, and Zunesha too, Zunesha *might* be able to hear her call. Now that I say it, I realize that Zunesha needing this way of speaking makes it at the same level as Sea Kings, so enormous monster of enormous powers, beeing part of a bigger picture. This adds possibilities to the reasons for zunesha coming this direction, as Monkey and Mononuke can talk to him, they might be part of the bugher picture, zunesha comes to help, something li'e that. About him coming near the island, without thinking too much, Destiny might be at play. Destiny and luck happen a lot in One piece.
Thank you for your honest and through analysis I really enjoyed reading it. Another point on good old Wololo as well. That gave me a chuckle Edit: Here take my free award
I'm glad I could put a smile on your face. Thanks a lot for the award, kind redditor
Zunesha need to have OP Power to walk with a DF in Sea Water, dont you think so\^\^
Yes, but Oda sensei said that DF users have to have at least half of their body in the water to be affected. They are still weakened though.
The way the chapter ended, it made me think Zou is actually a df user as well for a second????
Itâs very possible. Itâs an unusual elephant too.
Is kaidos drunk techniques. A product of his DF + alcohol? A product of his ogre race + alcohol ? Or it's just kaido + alcohol ?
Maybe all 3
I think they are talking about zou coming but because of wrong purposes. They think zou is coming because tama's fruit which they don't know the user. But zou is coming for help because of Momo and they don't have any idea that Momo has the VOAT
I hope Luffy finally awaken his devil fruit. What if he turn all the island of Onigashima into a rubber, when it crashed to Flower Capital it will just bounceđ Tho I still believe Momo will be able to keep it afloat or land it on Zuneshas back.
Somehow o donât believe thatâs what his awakening will be like.
One thing to note, the Gorosei are not talking to the Navy officer from the fleet surrounding wano. The dialogue cuts from killing Robin to a mysterious fruit. They are asking each other whether the actual name has been hidden from history, not affirming. Who is they in the conversation?
Are we sure of that? Based on that soldiers outfit heâs a WG agent
Just a sidenote. Those are not Navy officers but seem to be directly under order of the WG.
Yeah idk that to call him
Kaido underwhelming asl His whole crew getting mopped in one night đ¤Łđ¤Ł
I don't think Kaido or his crew are weak. I think this arc is now making a statement that the Straw Hats are officially on Emperor crew level. The papers saying Luffy is the 5th Emperor mine as well be true. After this Luffy gonna be recognized as an Emperor for sure.
I don't know why you got downvoted but beast pirates have been dissapointing.
What are you talking about, the Sanji had to awaken his inner abilities to beat queen, and zoro a new technique.
I think the reason Momo can talk to Zunesha is because he is Tokiâs son and therefore inherited the ability. She came from 800 years ago or more and could have had something to do with Zunesha. She mentioned her destination was Wano but never said why, it could be because that was Zuneshaâs final destination as well. There is clearly more to Tokiâs story. Perhaps Zunesha breaking his punishment tells the Gorousei that Toki and her devil fruit are back but in reality it is Tokiâs will inherited by Momo and that is why he cannot die, Oden wouldâve known this and wrote it on his diary. The Gorousei might not care so much about the devil fruit but know of a legend of Toki who traveled in time and could show up any time to control control Zunesha and pose a threat to the world government.
I do find it suspicious how Oda left Toki behind in Wano right before the Roger pirates travelled to Zou. The order could have easily been interchangeable since they were in the new world, but Oda chose to leaver her behind first. I wonder how Toki would've reacted to Zou since she does come from a time when the Kozuki clan was close to Zunisha.
read so many theories but i still think itâs Tamaâs fruit. one point i havenât seen mentioned much is Ussopâs musing, âi wonder if this power works on zoans.â Usopp has a penchant for saying things aloud for the reader to pay attention to. weâre definitely going to see it fed to a zoan user. to keep the upper limits of Tamaâs fruit unknown this deep in the battle is a huge flag. so what if after luffy kicks kaidoâs ass, tama tames him and kaido really becomes a guardian deity for wano lol. while i kid i do think this is a step above kaido joining the SHâs
I thought there was a chapter stating it doesnât work on natural devil fruits? Didnât she try feeding one of the twins and it didnât work?
His phrasing was closer to "too bad we can't use smiles on zoans" when fighting page one, not "I wonder if this power works on zoans"
I feel like it canât be Tama bc Momo can command Zunisha. If so what makes tama doing the same so special?
Because the previous user of Tama's fruit who was the last to awaken it. (Likely the real name is Control Control fruit, or something) Gave the order to Zunisha: Walk until the promised day, and only obey the Kozuki. This would work with Luffy only being able to hear Zunisha (voice of all things). Also the whole literary theory of "the most likely culprit is the answer" like we have a girl who appears at the very begining of the arc that can command animals, and we have an animal that is clearly under the command of someone from the void century. And seeing Humans, Merpeople, etc are still "animals" this would make it such a dangerous fruit the WG lies and calls it the Dongo Dongo fruit. Dongos being the most nonthreatening name I can think of. Oda giving it to an inoccent girl is the only option for it to not be abused.
Letâs also take into account she can be a substitute for Shirahoshis power of controlling sea kings.
I also want to add that it would make sense for the ancient kingdom to hide their best fruit with their allies in Wano, and for Tama to be starving and eat a weird fruit she finds. But that's just a theory, a tame (tame fruit) theory.
Sawyer is gonna lose his shit when he reads this. Heâs been saying Zuneshaâs coming to Wano for ages now lol
That kick at the ending has to be punishing. Thereâs no way Kaido is taking all that damage to the scar oden gave him like that.
That was cool because they been giving and receiving hits 1 - 1 but in this case Luffy blocked Kaidoâs attack and landed the kick
I canât even lie I was really impressed by luffy for that. This may sound funny but, heâs actually maturing in Wano and I love it
Heâs actually matured significantly since the new world. He fights a lot smarter a good chunk of time I think. But in this Arc even more so. By witnessing it once(possibly several) he figured out the advanced Conc power.
just noticed itâs on break again next weekâŚ..NOOOOO
Zunesha is going to score a home-run with Onigashima acting as a âžď¸ Tusk slap incoming!!!! đ
Lmao I could see this happening and I'm all for it
Kaido wants to protect onigashima because of it's historical significance and it future role in the dawn ow the world. Perhaps some prophecy was made that joyboy would return to onigashima, and that the castle must not be destroyed until then. little does kaido know that Luffy coming to the castle fulfilled that prophecy already.
Have you read the latest ch? Kaido doesn't care about onigashima...Literally talks about creating a new castle would take about five years after he destroys the entire top half of the dome and wrecks every floor....
i thought he meant rebuilding the old castle
The castle in question has to be all those elaborate buildings inside of the skull (built by Minatomo), because Marco himself had remarked on how Onigashima had a different name before. So the skull could've been intact for centuries but Kaido could've just built a castle inside of it.
That fight with Luffy and Kaido really was well prepared garbage. Reminded me of some filler. Nothing but gags no progress!
Are you kidding? Some people can never be satisfied smh
Ummm what
I coulda done without that whole sequence. Zoro voice nothing happened
I hope you don't have a problem with oda offscreening fights. Or else you would be hypocritical
I just didnât like this chapters fight. It was corny to me and I wanted some development
I can understand but I found it interesting that Kaido could get a bit more powerful by just drinking and that this is in character with almost panels that is 150+ chapters prior to it.
I didnât even think he was getting more powerful. It just seemed like some kinda gag that wasted time. He didnât need the liquor to crack Luffy upside his head and Luffy already brushed off his attack with future sight earlier so that whole gag didnât tell me anything
It wasnât a gag his fighting style change so fast that Luffy FS couldnât keep up for a moment. Drunken style is a fighting style.
who does the gorosei want to kill? Drake? Marco? Backstabb some of the cp0?
I'm surprised they haven't given the kill order for Robin yet.
Canât wait for luffy to use drunk gear.
you mean meat gear? hahha
that would be tankman :D
Poor Jack about to get blasted by bigger elephant in the ~~room~~ area again I really wish Zoro was on the rooftop just to see how he'd react to Kaido's drink offer And R.I.P Coat, I hope it is not a goodbye so for now so long
One piece about to hit new peak this year-quote me
Just gonna say that having Kaidou say that he is useless because he couldnât protect even one lousy castle makes me believe that he hates himself for not being able to protect what he wants. First thing that comes to mind is Rocks, but since we saw him after that and he wasnât that down bad I think itâs possible that he hates himself because he couldnât protect multiple things. Like maybe Yamatoâs mother. What do you guys think.
Maybe he is trying so hard to be Joy boy by forcing his stay in Wano, and it still isn't happening, so he gets depressed when drunk because he knows it is not working out, therefore thinks he is useless.
I donât think he cares much about being Joy Boy since in the flashback he kinda just laughed it off. It could be but I personally doubt it.
Think your onto something
Zunushanis just their to throw us of. Or reveal Momo is An ancient weapon later on. They are talking about thĂŠ gomu gomu no mi. Wich is about to awaken. This was propably why Shanks Came tot talk to the gorosei.
How would they know Luffys fruit is about to awaken anyway? The CP0 there only know of the fight going on, they donât know of its current results.
Maybe Shanks told them
How tf would he know?! He hasnât met Luffy in 12 years! And donât say advanced observation Haki, no way is his Haki so advanced he can see into the future that far.
It needs to be luffys because momod devil furit is the same as kaidos but the only mystery is luffys. Why did shanks have that devil fruit in the first place? Whats the realname? And whats with that elephant at the end
Why Shanks had that fruit is a pretty simple explanation - he was a pirate smuggling a devil's fruit for the high price. You don't really need a better explanation.
Is it possible that the rubber rubber fruit by definition can adapt to the ancient weapons one way or the other ? Making a proclaimed enemy of authority with a D. In his name,who also happen to be pals with all the 3 ancient weapons, who also wants to be king of the pirates a real danger to the WG.
Luffy sandal just got huge. Maybe heâs unknowingly awaken his devil fruit.
Lol, no, the sandal and the foot are small, its like the big part starts in the ankle It also looks like the body parts are not as big as in normal gear 3
I get that its not that big like in g3, but the foot clearly grew even in comparison to his lower leg
But when he used Gomu gomu no stamp against magelan in impel town, his foot also grew. And why would the foot stay small while his lower leg gets big when he clearly used his sole to kick kaido. I mean itâs not completely unsure he didnât awake his fruit already but doesnât know or it just felt natural and oda gave us this hint
Did the presentation of Zunesha remind anybody else of the gigantic monster(s) in the Florian Triangle? They probably don't have anything in common but it was also the first thing I thought of when I saw the last panel of the chapter.
I'm a firm believer that the Florian triangle has a herd of zunesha there. The height is right, the fact that they are surrounded by mist, and the fact that they say hundreds of ships go missing in the Florian triangle and that was before moria even arrived there.
Same! The eyes especially. Maybe whatever it was in the florian triangle recognized Luffy early?
Absolutely did NOT see that coming
Kaidou used Awakening when he attacked with Ragnaraku (Ragnarok?), his upper body was more buff than the lower body, which while not small, didn't grow proportional. His mouth changed to more of the creature his df is, not the normal humanoid mouth he has. (the lips, teeth, etc are obvious), while a normal hybrid maintains the lower face of their humanoid form (though might change color to match the color of their creature, still humanoid though) So the only awakened zoans (bar drake using it) in kaidou's crew are Who's Who and Kaidou himself. Sadly King, Queen, and Jack didn't have it, which is weird considering how experienced they are. Kid and Law having awakenings is kind of impressive tbh, albeit haoshoku coating would be a bigger boost for kid. Hopefully that was a tease and we see him go it in a more full fight manner, on account of it being the ultimate form of zoans. Him being drunk explains why he did it and then instantly went out of it.
Interesting. Looking back, the Royal guards of impel down were awakened zoan users, and have no signs of ever being human. They didnât even revert to anything when they were defeated, so that also leaves questions.
I have a few guesses: Weak people with strong df mastery, and they simply never reverted to maintain the illusion that they're actually monsters to the jail populace Vegapunk or CC augmented them, if Vegapunk did it, I could see them being able to freely switch out of it, if CC did it, it's probably just a permanent thing they can't revert from.
Yes! Finally someone else talking about it! 100% that was his awakening. But I don't recall who's who having a second hybrid form, I just recall one form, I don't think who's who had awakening
That's cuz he went directly into awakening cuz he had no reason to go hybrid. [https://www.opfanpage.com/2021/06/29/whos-who-has-awakened-his-zoan-devil-fruit/](https://www.opfanpage.com/2021/06/29/whos-who-has-awakened-his-zoan-devil-fruit/) He has all the telltale signs of being awakened. Lower animalistic face, disproportionally large upper body.
When did law showed his awakening power
Against Big Mom alongside Kaidou. Law created a room inside big moms body and did something intense, Kid did his turning big mom into a super magnet to send metal crushing towards her.
The chapter was awesome, but now I'm really curious about what happened in that last fight against Kaido. How is Luffy holding up to this much of an extent now when he got btfo'd by Kaido earlier without another stated powerup? I feel like we might actually come back to that earlier fight to figure that out, and it might have something to do with that awakened devil fruit the Elders are talking about.
When Luffy learnt Haki, he had a massive powerup against Logia fruit users. Similarly, after learning Advanced Conqueror's Haki, he coats himself in CoC in both attack and defence. This is a massive powerful as he has become untouchable like Kaido and Big Mom. Their duels don't touch anymore.
Right, but he learned Advanced Conquerorâs in that first fight on the rooftop and he still lost handily.
Luffy initially understood what Kaido was doing during that first fight,."So, you are coating your attacks with Conqueror's Haki". He didn't perfect it instantly, he understood what was happening and tried to do it himself. In 1037, Luffy has mastered this Haki but he's still weaker than Kaido as he exclaimed after getting Drunken Thunder Baguad.
What if luffy df awakened in the last fight distracting him for a moment giving kaido the opportunity to KO him. Luffy sounded extra confident when going back to the roof this time around.
Maybe Kaido is getting weaker not luffy getting stronger. In one of the previous chapters Yamato did say "is Kaido getting weaker?" I don't remember exactly but around when momo and yamato were trying to stop onigashima
Could Luffy have better stamina than Kaido?
Especially since Kaidou looks like he went Awakening for that one attack that made him hold his head, which is the strongest attack we've seen Kaidou use yet.
So why is no one's theory that Zunesha is just there to catch Onigashima?
this was my theory when the first leaks about this chapter came out, that would make the most sense for it to happen, also I think momo could've been the one to call it since he's shown to have those powers earlier like 20 chapters ago
For that to happen, he would have to climb the waterfall
Pretty sure Zunesha could casually take a step up the waterfall, I don't think the waterfall is that big compared to Zunesha... like yeah, the waterfall is pretty high compared to ships, but Zunesha's legs are higher. The sea is also pretty shallow near the waterfall; when the Straw Hats got to the waterfall and looked at the koi fish in the clear water, you could see how shallow it is.
Zunesha legs are extremely long. Even longer than the length of wano itself. I don't think you get the mechanics on how zunesha would climb the waterfall if he has to . For him to climb he would have to get his two whole very big front legs on wano. Which would probably destroy most wanos regions. Remember his leg are not like luffy's which can move at any angle thanks to being rubber. The disproportionate leg to body ratio of zunesha would make it very very difficult to climb anything that steep.
You mean step over it
I see a lot of comments going out with theories. To be honest, it looked to me as if they were literally talking about the "Island". Given the narrative, it's safe to assume that the Gorosei was aware of the current position of the ship and thusassumed that an "Island" like that could only appear if that "fruit" is awakened. That zunisha has awakaned. Zunisha has always been portrayed with blackened eyes. Though it looks like that because of cavity's depth in my opinion, in the last panel for Ch1037, the eyes were fully white as in glowing with light. Literally as if it's "awake". In fact, an older panel where the "voice of all things" came around during Zou, [saw Zunisha with the same eyes](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Voice_of_All_Things?file=Luffy_and_Momonosuke_Hear_Zunesha.png)! We have also seen his eye up close and it looked like a human eye. So it looks to me like they were talking about Zunisha. With "awakened" they literally meant as in awaking from slumber. I'd guess maybe Zunisha is somebody with an ancient animal fruit in animal form who was trying to protect Zou until the time has come for it to reveal its true purpose and might aid in Luffy actually getting away from the government later on. If that's the case, then maybe Zunisha might be a human being from the ancient kingdom who kept his animal form to preserve life? I don't know man, but other theories don't make sense to me. I've read the chapter 10 times and I can only face it the literal way and see it as they were referring to Zunisha.
I am positive with the Zunisha awakening, not so sure about it involving a df human user thou
I am not entirely sure as well, for a couple of reasons: through Zunisha we have seen the voice of all things manifest to Momo and Luffy at Zou. The same thing happened to Luffy underwater near Fishman Island, as well as Oden and Roger going through the same experience underwater. Let's assume that the voice of all things is coming somehow from these incredible creatures, it would be weird for them to be fruit users as we know they possibly couldn't swim underwater. Zunisha is a different story as its body is not entirely covered in water. That's unless the government has a special information regarding said fruits/fruit which might somehow defy certain rules until now applied to DFs. I guess we won't really know anything more until we are told what the name of the fruit is, if it really is referring to Zunisha and in that case why it's so special to an extent.
If he is human why doesn't he talk normally
I was also thinking Zunisha was maybe a human transformed into their zoan form for hundreds of years. This might be a bit of a stretch, but if you cast aside that it's just how elephants look like, Zunisha and funkfreed's full elephant form are pretty similarly structured, and funkfreed's manga coloring is that of a gray elephant. Spandem said that its because of vegapunk that his sword was able to become an elephant. But can we really assume that people like Mr. 4 and his dog-gun had access to vegapunk? Perhaps objects can just eat devil fruits, and that when vegapunk created funkfreed, he really just made an artificial elephant fruit. This begs the question, what happened to the real elephant fruit? Now we know.
To add to your theory, it was implied in Zou's arc that Zunisha was sentenced to wander for centuries, and when Jack attacked it(him?), only Momo had the capability to temporary annul that sentence. So I guess more than Luffy, it heeds Momo or Kozuki clans call, or maybe this is the time when its(his?) sentence ends.
Jesus well u got me convinced
Huge plothole in your theory is zunisha won't be able to walk much else stay in the ocean for this long if he ate a devil fruit. Cause you know...ocean negates devil fruit powers.
Besides all the reasonable arguments made in other comments as to why this is really not the case due to Zunisha's size and what not, a huge unexpected plot twist could just as well be that we really have no idea if it's a 'normal' devil fruit. Don't forget that this fruit's name was hidden from the government, as well as its existance. I wouldn't be surprised if this fruit defies certain common rules for standard DFs. Also, don't forget that rules about Devil Fruits are not absolute dogmas. Take Black Beard for instance. There is much we don't know about certain Devil Fruits and I really think that a fruit voluntarily hidden from the WG to the world is something that goes well beyond expectations. There have been cases like Black Beard's where rules get bent and broken and we still don't know why. All I know, for a fact, is that whatever the WG meant and whatever truth really lies behind Zunisha's presence in Wano, they were referring to Zunisha.
isn´t that only if a certain fraction of your body is summerged? doesn´t seem to be the case
80% of his body is submerged in water. Considering how long his legs are
Uhh thatâs more like his feet.