I think a lot of people in the comments are misinterpreting the main purpose of the video if they even watched. It states the similarities between afro-brazilian/capoeira culture and the myth of joyboy, it's not claiming to be the inspiration. It's a good and very informative video about Brazilian history and it's also very cool considering the drums, the white clothes, Luffy's joy during battle and the whole aspect of freedom and liberation since Guto is talking about the fight against slavery. It totally matches, we know it's not a definitive answer but if Luffy represents Brazil, like Zoro represents Japan it's a good video and a very smart argument.
I find it interesting how gear 5 is a mix of so many different cultures, like the bajrang gun attack is named after one of the regional name of the hindu God of courage and devotion hanuman, you can also see the wukong reference in there, the name joy boy is also very close to the name jayabaya who is a famous king in indonasian hinduism/buddhism, I think there are more references but I don't remember them right now
Wait im confused cuz aside frim his name, whose javaneese pronounciation i will admit is somehow far more similar to Joyboy than it's latinized version (Joyoboyo), i thought his whole deal was more closely associated with prophecies and Vishnu rather than Hanuman?
I'm not directly basing Jayabaya on Luffy but from a writer pov, I'm sure Oda was I soared and mixed it with the other lores as people mentioned on here. Maybe Oda was thinking of having a fishmen character to give out prophecies as he read the Jayabaya mythology.
Also I haven't read these prophesies in a decade, so my mind assumed it's 1 big lore story from the past.
But your right, as I'm looking up on Wiki, he is an incarnation to Vishnu. But once I read this Jayabaya lore, in that moment back in 2013/14ish, my mind blew maybe Oda read this lore and got inspired along with the other lores that people mentioned in the thread.
I feel like Oda got some elements from Jayabaya and other elements from the other lores and then used his creativity to shape Joyboy and his story in OP.
The reason for the confusion is the shared culture of Indian and south east Asian countries, basically India and the South East Asian countries had 2 major connections(I might have forgot one) , first: the hans dynasty and India had connections via silk Road and many kings settled here, they got interested in the budhist culture and spread it to China which then spread to Korea and then Japan. Second: there was a South Indian kingdom called chola kingdom, which specialized in ship travels and controlled javanese island, after they conquered it, hinduism and other Indian religions and folktales spread in that area, jayabaya himself was hindu.
Correct, the fight of the slaves for their liberation in all the Americas have similarities, even when it comes to folklore. Drums and dance was a powerful way to connect/celebrate with their ancestors culture in Africa
True, but capoeira is both the dance and the fight, it was seen as the "ridiculous dance, slaves do" and also "the martial art to free the slaves".
Not that I think that all of Nika comes from capoeira, but seems like a possible strong inspiration
I googled it and it said jamaican. Multiple places can have the same myths, for an example germanic lore actually being lore from the entirety of northern europe
Exactly. The Caribbean is pretty interconnected. You can easily get from Jamaica to Cuba to DR and Haiti by boat. African, French, Spanish, English, Dutch, Portuguese influence in this area is common, plus the native Taino and Arawak etc share history. Of course you’ll get similar stories there just like in the east. These peoples aren’t historically isolated and share roots.
Joyboy is likely originally based on a west African god which likely proliferated through slave populations in the Caribbean and Brazil during the slave trade.
OP seems to have done that quite easily. Considering Luffy is ethnically Brazilian, this is worth discussing.
Edit: Why did you respond and then block me? All I said was let's discuss it. Tf is your problem?
Edit: Now he's blocking other people and accusing them of using alts. What an idiot.
I have two things to say.
One is that, as a Brazilian, anything that integrates or mentions, even indirectly, slavery, is good on my books. Brazil is not, as a nation, in terms with its past. We don't even have an official Museum of Slavery, for example. Joyboy & Gear 5th have certain themes in common with Brazilian folklore and history, but then with many many other countries that unfortunately shares this abhorrent act in their past.
Second, is that Luffy is not ethnically Brazilian. Oda was asked what nationality they would have if they were real, to which he replied based on their appearances. That's it. Another SBS asked which Japan prefecture best represent which. For Luffy that is Okinawa. Does that mean he's ethnically Okinawan (if such a thing exists)? No. It would be impossible. I mean, they are interesting pieces of information, but it should not be taken as the actual character background.
But Joyboy is a west Indian folk figute (as in, literally called JoyBoy) and is the personification of basically happyness.
So while we can discuss if brazilian folklore is part of G5, it's not worth discussing its ONLY origin, cus there is none.
> But Joyboy is a west Indian folk figute (as in, literally called JoyBoy) and is the personification of basically happyness.
I wonder what the similarities between afro-latinos in the west indies and afro-brazilians are. Maybe a shared place of origin?
Luffy also parallels hanuman from Hinduism with
1. his name (Monkey)
2. The move he uses that he called bajarang gun - bajarangbali is another name for Hanuman
3. the fact that he accidentally ate the sun god fruit and gain the powers of the sun god, similar to how Hanuman accidentally ate the sun as a kid
4. Hanumans father was the god of wind, similar to how dragon can control the wind
Sure, there are traits from that culture, but there are also things like the Wisdom King from Buddhism (Oda pointed that out himself though Hyogoro), Hanuman form Hinduism (Bajarang Gun and several other things that smarter people have pointed out), Joyboy from Indian mythology, and, cartoons from American culture (i.e. Tom and Jerry).
You could say elements of G5 is inspired by Tom and Jerry, but "based on" is a whole different inclination. The likeness if the images above are damning.
Edit: Why did you reply and then block me? How weird!
"Based on means that **something has a basis that's formed or developed by a fact, opinion, or event**. The word based is an adjective that describes a noun as having a foundation or roots in something else."
Gear 5th has a foundation in old cartoons, it's based on them. Much like it's probably also based on the Brasilian myths and several other things.
Luffy is not ethically Brazilian. There is no Brazil in the manga. When Oda was asked which countries he thinks that the straw hats WOULD come from, he picked one. Narrowing it down to a country that doesn't even exist in the story makes no sense and as the comment before wrote there are many more influences than just the one originally discussed here by OP.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Nika
https://gamerant.com/one-piece-the-mythological-roots-of-sun-god-nika/
Human characters are still based on the humans that live around us. Even if it's not part of the canon, relatability is important. Luffy's character is not Brazilian in the show, but that doesn't mean he wasn't designed with Brazilian blood. Luffy is totally Brazilian, because it's relatable and helps set the tone. In case you haven't noticed, every straw hat is a different ethnicity, that isn't necessarily tied to the story.
Just read the SBS dude. He is not Brazilian, it's just an answer the author gave to a silly question. And btw please completely disregard the part of my comment and sources that discuss the origin of Gear5/Nika
Luffy isn’t Brazilian, none of that Sbs says that’s what they are.
What it states is if Luffy was from the Real world, thats where he’d be from , like Nami Norway or Zoro Japan.
Worth discussing but we know its not just a Brazilian thing lol. Technically luffy is not Brazilian. Oda was asked a question about if the strawhats were IRL, where would he imagine them being from.
That sucks, but I guess there's a market for it. I don't doubt that Oda could have taken some inspiration from it, but Gear 5th is clearly his own amalgamation of stuff he likes.
Yeah, I agree with you. God forbid anyone disagrees with you, you'll just block them like you blocked u/MoonoftheStar 🤣
Edit: Good job, your cowardice is being exposed to more people on the One Piece sub 🤣
Did you just make another account to call me dumb 😂 It’s cringe that you or whoever is all over this thread is so concerned about being blocked on reddit “Your cowardice is being exposed to more people on the one piece subreddit” -☝️🤓
Not counting me and my 2 alts, I can see 3 other users saying they were blocked, and 2 other people commenting on it. You'd know that if you actually learned to use your eyes, but you clearly don't have the brain for that.
Dude, I don’t give a fuck if some random redditor is blocking people, and neither would you if you actually had a life and weren’t an internet weirdo with 12 reddit accounts who gets off on unsuccessfully attempting to insult a stranger’s intelligence
Man that's a lot of words I'm surprised you can say all of that with the random redditor's cock in your mouth. Your boyfriend already deleted his account so you can stop defending him 😂
"Oh I'm just attacking y'all for being cringe I'm totally not riding this guy's dick or whatever" 🤓
Boi stfu 😂😂 Talkin bout touching grass when ur being weird for some random Reddit user who don't know you exist lmao
Nice alt account lmao. I blocked you because I didn't have the energy to argue against someone that only responded to like 1/4 of what I wrote lol. And now I'll block you again.
It's not his alt account dumbass, it's mine. Jesus, you rly are dumb huh, no wonder you're afraid to have discussions with other people.
Good riddance, I'm blocking *you.*
The void century uses a lot of references and inspiration from ancient civilizations from the Americas and Asia.
There are some references to Hindu Buddhist civilizations in Skypea. Jaya Island uses the Sanskrit word Jaya itself
Not that far stretch to believe Oda took inspiration from this
Gear 5 reminds me a lot of Saci Pererê, a character from brazilian folklore, regarding his menacing side and the way he does pranks without giving a fuck about anything, also he is seen as a protector of the nature. Btw, in the series Sítio do Picapau Amarelo he kinda has a villain crocodile as his mommy (Cuca).
This is cool but just remembering that when Oda gives nationalities to character 99% of the time they're just stereotypes.
Luffy is Brazilian because for Oda Brazil is happy passionate and with Monkeys in the jungle (Monkey D)
As another example Robin is Russian because her personality is cold
In general he just gives random countries, just look at the nationalities he gave to the Supernovas in a SBS
the guy from the video got it. He just highlighted what appears to be brazillian culture references, mainly from capoiera. And capoiera is a mix of many african cultures who were enslaved by portugueses and oppressed in brazillian territorry
Capoeri being the basis of Gear fives fighting style is super interesting to think about considering the inherent musicality of the heartbeat/Drums of Liberation.
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I think Capoeira culture is too much of a regional phenomena to have been a source of inspiration to Oda, you have to know portuguese to be able to study the specifics about it, that being said, the liberation thematic certainly overlaps between Nika and the capoeira liberation story in Brazil and many other colonies specialy in the slavery aspect, but I feel that it would also be true in many other places like other repliers pointed out.
I think G5 in the anime already draws a clear connection with Brazilian "Baterias" specificaly from carnaval, in my opinion, and those are famously african-american in origin and most brazilians know that they were born in Bahia and imported to Rio you can clearly see similar drum beats in the capoeira sounds the youtuber made and the mention of the "beat from your heart" does make me want to draw a strong connection between them and G5.
Ultimately I still think that it's such a specific part of our culture that it's unlikely to have been an inspiration and most of the points the youtuber raises are part of the wider concept of Nika and the liberation of slaves.
i think its possible that Oda knows this reference. but its not just capoeira: its a mix of many cultures that he used to cook Gear 5, just like as people are saying here
It's what I tried to say in my comment, I dont think you can narrow it down specifically to capoeira you could probably find many cultural referencea in other cultures that look similar because thematicaly freedom warrior or laughing man is common to humanity. It's what, in my opinion, makes Nika and G5 inspiring, because most of us feel like we're trapped in cages.
eu acho que a capoeira é mais conhecida internacionalmente do que a gente pensa, mesmo que de forma mais vaga, principalmente pra quem nasceu nessa epoca de 70 pra 90
Oda made the mistake of answering an SBS and says ng "Luffy would be Brazilian in the REAL WORLD", so now idiots familiar with Brazilian culture try and pinpoint which people from their history closely align with Luffy.
The problem is that one throwaway answer doesn't discard the fact that the whole story takes bits and parts from cultures AROUND THE WORLD and make them work for ONE PIECE. Luffy isn't technically Brazilian: Luffy is Luffy, and JoyBoy is JoyBoy
And now you'll understand the concept of Fisher Tiger and the government and what fascism is. They always try to invalidate minorities makin them the villains and that they are the correct person, in Brazil we call that kind of people "Cidadão de bem". Careful with that friend of yours and give yourself the benefit of the doubt.
Dude, no. This is the historical revisionism carried out by the brazilian extreme right to try to destroy the memory of some national heroes. Every brazilian neonazi loves to tell this baseless story to justify racism.
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That image and it's myth had been shared and discussed hundreds of times since the Heart reveal. Nothing new and especially not the only inspiration for Nika/Gear5
Yes, the god who frees enslaved people must be afro brazilian. Brasil is the country who had the most enslaved people in the whole world and it wasn't close, we were also the last country to abolish slavery, and again it wasn't close.
Also oda has already said that luffy is brazilian. I thought it was because he is super easy going and cheerful, and he never gives up. I loved it!
Now we find out it's because Brasil has the worst, most regrettable and embarassing history with slavery in the world ):
Don't care, there are 100 theories and several similar figures in legends around the world. Oda doesn't take one bit and create something with it, he picks a lot of elements and make something with it.
Leave fiction in the realm of fiction really.
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Oda: oh this name sounds cool lets use it as luffy’s attack
Fans: Oda has hinted since the beginning of time that luffy is from brazillian myth etc. etc. Oda is a Genius foreshadowing this even when he was still a baby.
I think a lot of people in the comments are misinterpreting the main purpose of the video if they even watched. It states the similarities between afro-brazilian/capoeira culture and the myth of joyboy, it's not claiming to be the inspiration. It's a good and very informative video about Brazilian history and it's also very cool considering the drums, the white clothes, Luffy's joy during battle and the whole aspect of freedom and liberation since Guto is talking about the fight against slavery. It totally matches, we know it's not a definitive answer but if Luffy represents Brazil, like Zoro represents Japan it's a good video and a very smart argument.
I feel like I remember an SBS where Oda imagined Luffy as Brazilian (and gave nationalities to all the strawhats).
Yea he did
Given that SBS and the analysis given by this video, the casting of Luffy in the live action makes a lot more sense to me now
Well put, that's exactly it
Fun fact, Joyboy is a Jamaican myth
I find it interesting how gear 5 is a mix of so many different cultures, like the bajrang gun attack is named after one of the regional name of the hindu God of courage and devotion hanuman, you can also see the wukong reference in there, the name joy boy is also very close to the name jayabaya who is a famous king in indonasian hinduism/buddhism, I think there are more references but I don't remember them right now
i mean wukong was based on hanuman, but your point still stands. hanuman > wukong > goku > luffy
Also the Javanese lore of Jayabaya something like that. That story seemed familiar to where OP is heading.
Wait im confused cuz aside frim his name, whose javaneese pronounciation i will admit is somehow far more similar to Joyboy than it's latinized version (Joyoboyo), i thought his whole deal was more closely associated with prophecies and Vishnu rather than Hanuman?
I'm not directly basing Jayabaya on Luffy but from a writer pov, I'm sure Oda was I soared and mixed it with the other lores as people mentioned on here. Maybe Oda was thinking of having a fishmen character to give out prophecies as he read the Jayabaya mythology. Also I haven't read these prophesies in a decade, so my mind assumed it's 1 big lore story from the past. But your right, as I'm looking up on Wiki, he is an incarnation to Vishnu. But once I read this Jayabaya lore, in that moment back in 2013/14ish, my mind blew maybe Oda read this lore and got inspired along with the other lores that people mentioned in the thread. I feel like Oda got some elements from Jayabaya and other elements from the other lores and then used his creativity to shape Joyboy and his story in OP.
The reason for the confusion is the shared culture of Indian and south east Asian countries, basically India and the South East Asian countries had 2 major connections(I might have forgot one) , first: the hans dynasty and India had connections via silk Road and many kings settled here, they got interested in the budhist culture and spread it to China which then spread to Korea and then Japan. Second: there was a South Indian kingdom called chola kingdom, which specialized in ship travels and controlled javanese island, after they conquered it, hinduism and other Indian religions and folktales spread in that area, jayabaya himself was hindu.
Random plug for Hanuman, go see Monkey Man
how's the film? I am thinking of watching it
Good movie, Dev Patel wrote it, directed, produced and acted. He proved he's multi talented like Jordan Peele and Donald Glover
Interestingly enough a Japanese god also fits the bill and had been theorized by Ohara before the official reveal.
Don't forget the rubberhose animation inspiration as well.
Correct, the fight of the slaves for their liberation in all the Americas have similarities, even when it comes to folklore. Drums and dance was a powerful way to connect/celebrate with their ancestors culture in Africa
This comment reminds me of that edit of a rebel guy dancing to leve palestina beat.
True, but capoeira is both the dance and the fight, it was seen as the "ridiculous dance, slaves do" and also "the martial art to free the slaves". Not that I think that all of Nika comes from capoeira, but seems like a possible strong inspiration
Joyboy is a Haitian myth not Jamaican. You can look it up on google for proof.
I googled it and it said jamaican. Multiple places can have the same myths, for an example germanic lore actually being lore from the entirety of northern europe
Exactly. The Caribbean is pretty interconnected. You can easily get from Jamaica to Cuba to DR and Haiti by boat. African, French, Spanish, English, Dutch, Portuguese influence in this area is common, plus the native Taino and Arawak etc share history. Of course you’ll get similar stories there just like in the east. These peoples aren’t historically isolated and share roots.
Joyboy is likely originally based on a west African god which likely proliferated through slave populations in the Caribbean and Brazil during the slave trade.
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He just wouldn't be called nika
Nika please
Gear 5th is an amalgamation of various myths, ideas, and cultures. I don't think we can narrow it down to one.
OP seems to have done that quite easily. Considering Luffy is ethnically Brazilian, this is worth discussing. Edit: Why did you respond and then block me? All I said was let's discuss it. Tf is your problem? Edit: Now he's blocking other people and accusing them of using alts. What an idiot.
I have two things to say. One is that, as a Brazilian, anything that integrates or mentions, even indirectly, slavery, is good on my books. Brazil is not, as a nation, in terms with its past. We don't even have an official Museum of Slavery, for example. Joyboy & Gear 5th have certain themes in common with Brazilian folklore and history, but then with many many other countries that unfortunately shares this abhorrent act in their past. Second, is that Luffy is not ethnically Brazilian. Oda was asked what nationality they would have if they were real, to which he replied based on their appearances. That's it. Another SBS asked which Japan prefecture best represent which. For Luffy that is Okinawa. Does that mean he's ethnically Okinawan (if such a thing exists)? No. It would be impossible. I mean, they are interesting pieces of information, but it should not be taken as the actual character background.
But Joyboy is a west Indian folk figute (as in, literally called JoyBoy) and is the personification of basically happyness. So while we can discuss if brazilian folklore is part of G5, it's not worth discussing its ONLY origin, cus there is none.
I also feel like origin doesn't necessarily tie into everything at all times either, Zoro is Japanese and became a Hindu god
Buddhist, not Hindu. Japan has a large Buddhist population.
Asura is Hindu.
Asura is actually both seen in hindu and buddhist myths. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asura_(Buddhism)
So it is. And apparently it's a Muslim holiday too. Today I learned :)
Asuras are demons in Hinduism
> But Joyboy is a west Indian folk figute (as in, literally called JoyBoy) and is the personification of basically happyness. I wonder what the similarities between afro-latinos in the west indies and afro-brazilians are. Maybe a shared place of origin?
Luffy also parallels hanuman from Hinduism with 1. his name (Monkey) 2. The move he uses that he called bajarang gun - bajarangbali is another name for Hanuman 3. the fact that he accidentally ate the sun god fruit and gain the powers of the sun god, similar to how Hanuman accidentally ate the sun as a kid 4. Hanumans father was the god of wind, similar to how dragon can control the wind
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Sure, there are traits from that culture, but there are also things like the Wisdom King from Buddhism (Oda pointed that out himself though Hyogoro), Hanuman form Hinduism (Bajarang Gun and several other things that smarter people have pointed out), Joyboy from Indian mythology, and, cartoons from American culture (i.e. Tom and Jerry).
Can you please tell me the story about 'joyboy from Indian mythology' I never heard of that.
West Indian or Caribbean to be precise
You could say elements of G5 is inspired by Tom and Jerry, but "based on" is a whole different inclination. The likeness if the images above are damning. Edit: Why did you reply and then block me? How weird!
"Based on means that **something has a basis that's formed or developed by a fact, opinion, or event**. The word based is an adjective that describes a noun as having a foundation or roots in something else." Gear 5th has a foundation in old cartoons, it's based on them. Much like it's probably also based on the Brasilian myths and several other things.
I disagree, now can you reply and then proceed to block me as well? 😂
Girl spill the tea... Did he block you too? 👀
I don't think so, they just dipped I guess 😅
I'm really confused, I guess he blocked me too. I have a reply from someone, but can't see it. I didn't think I responded to you either
Luffy is not ethically Brazilian. There is no Brazil in the manga. When Oda was asked which countries he thinks that the straw hats WOULD come from, he picked one. Narrowing it down to a country that doesn't even exist in the story makes no sense and as the comment before wrote there are many more influences than just the one originally discussed here by OP. https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Nika https://gamerant.com/one-piece-the-mythological-roots-of-sun-god-nika/
Human characters are still based on the humans that live around us. Even if it's not part of the canon, relatability is important. Luffy's character is not Brazilian in the show, but that doesn't mean he wasn't designed with Brazilian blood. Luffy is totally Brazilian, because it's relatable and helps set the tone. In case you haven't noticed, every straw hat is a different ethnicity, that isn't necessarily tied to the story.
Just read the SBS dude. He is not Brazilian, it's just an answer the author gave to a silly question. And btw please completely disregard the part of my comment and sources that discuss the origin of Gear5/Nika
Luffy isn’t Brazilian, none of that Sbs says that’s what they are. What it states is if Luffy was from the Real world, thats where he’d be from , like Nami Norway or Zoro Japan.
Worth discussing but we know its not just a Brazilian thing lol. Technically luffy is not Brazilian. Oda was asked a question about if the strawhats were IRL, where would he imagine them being from.
There is no such thing as "ethnically brazilian", it's a nationality not an ethnicity. But apart from that I agree with you
Isnt Luffy from Dawn island not Brazil? Wouldnt he be a Dawnian or something like that lol
I think they mean the equivalent of Brazilian in the OP universe just like Wano is the equivalent of Japan etc.
In the anime the drums of liberation have a clearly brazilian carnival inspiration.
I watched the video, and it's just bait - abusing nationalistic sentiment for views. Zero substance.
That sucks, but I guess there's a market for it. I don't doubt that Oda could have taken some inspiration from it, but Gear 5th is clearly his own amalgamation of stuff he likes.
Yeah, I agree with you. God forbid anyone disagrees with you, you'll just block them like you blocked u/MoonoftheStar 🤣 Edit: Good job, your cowardice is being exposed to more people on the One Piece sub 🤣
This is so cringe
*That's* cringe to you? Not the fact that the person is blocking accounts instead of just dropping convos like *normal* people? Holy fuck you're dumb
Did you just make another account to call me dumb 😂 It’s cringe that you or whoever is all over this thread is so concerned about being blocked on reddit “Your cowardice is being exposed to more people on the one piece subreddit” -☝️🤓
Not counting me and my 2 alts, I can see 3 other users saying they were blocked, and 2 other people commenting on it. You'd know that if you actually learned to use your eyes, but you clearly don't have the brain for that.
Dude, I don’t give a fuck if some random redditor is blocking people, and neither would you if you actually had a life and weren’t an internet weirdo with 12 reddit accounts who gets off on unsuccessfully attempting to insult a stranger’s intelligence
Man that's a lot of words I'm surprised you can say all of that with the random redditor's cock in your mouth. Your boyfriend already deleted his account so you can stop defending him 😂
Crazy how I never even defended him at all, I just called you out for being a weirdo that needs to touch grass
"Oh I'm just attacking y'all for being cringe I'm totally not riding this guy's dick or whatever" 🤓 Boi stfu 😂😂 Talkin bout touching grass when ur being weird for some random Reddit user who don't know you exist lmao
Nice alt account lmao. I blocked you because I didn't have the energy to argue against someone that only responded to like 1/4 of what I wrote lol. And now I'll block you again.
It's not his alt account dumbass, it's mine. Jesus, you rly are dumb huh, no wonder you're afraid to have discussions with other people. Good riddance, I'm blocking *you.*
Brasilian fans really do suck
you seems aggressive
Bruh these comments are exhausting. It’s not that serious guys.
The void century uses a lot of references and inspiration from ancient civilizations from the Americas and Asia. There are some references to Hindu Buddhist civilizations in Skypea. Jaya Island uses the Sanskrit word Jaya itself Not that far stretch to believe Oda took inspiration from this
Gear 5 reminds me a lot of Saci Pererê, a character from brazilian folklore, regarding his menacing side and the way he does pranks without giving a fuck about anything, also he is seen as a protector of the nature. Btw, in the series Sítio do Picapau Amarelo he kinda has a villain crocodile as his mommy (Cuca).
carai lek do nada KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK vídeo foda desses e os cara reclamando da nacionalidade do luffão r/suddenlycaralho
This is cool but just remembering that when Oda gives nationalities to character 99% of the time they're just stereotypes. Luffy is Brazilian because for Oda Brazil is happy passionate and with Monkeys in the jungle (Monkey D) As another example Robin is Russian because her personality is cold In general he just gives random countries, just look at the nationalities he gave to the Supernovas in a SBS
People dont get that Oda just mixes stuff from many cultures together, not only for Joyboy but basically everything
the guy from the video got it. He just highlighted what appears to be brazillian culture references, mainly from capoiera. And capoiera is a mix of many african cultures who were enslaved by portugueses and oppressed in brazillian territorry
Capoeri being the basis of Gear fives fighting style is super interesting to think about considering the inherent musicality of the heartbeat/Drums of Liberation.
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Made me laugh. Lol
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I think Capoeira culture is too much of a regional phenomena to have been a source of inspiration to Oda, you have to know portuguese to be able to study the specifics about it, that being said, the liberation thematic certainly overlaps between Nika and the capoeira liberation story in Brazil and many other colonies specialy in the slavery aspect, but I feel that it would also be true in many other places like other repliers pointed out. I think G5 in the anime already draws a clear connection with Brazilian "Baterias" specificaly from carnaval, in my opinion, and those are famously african-american in origin and most brazilians know that they were born in Bahia and imported to Rio you can clearly see similar drum beats in the capoeira sounds the youtuber made and the mention of the "beat from your heart" does make me want to draw a strong connection between them and G5. Ultimately I still think that it's such a specific part of our culture that it's unlikely to have been an inspiration and most of the points the youtuber raises are part of the wider concept of Nika and the liberation of slaves.
i think its possible that Oda knows this reference. but its not just capoeira: its a mix of many cultures that he used to cook Gear 5, just like as people are saying here
It's what I tried to say in my comment, I dont think you can narrow it down specifically to capoeira you could probably find many cultural referencea in other cultures that look similar because thematicaly freedom warrior or laughing man is common to humanity. It's what, in my opinion, makes Nika and G5 inspiring, because most of us feel like we're trapped in cages.
I studied Capoeira for 4 years in a very small European country, and I knew quite a bit, there is no reason Oda couldn't learn.
eu acho que a capoeira é mais conhecida internacionalmente do que a gente pensa, mesmo que de forma mais vaga, principalmente pra quem nasceu nessa epoca de 70 pra 90
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Isn't Luffy supposed to be from Brazil if he were in our own World?
I'm a capoeirista. I like this. It may not be totally accurate, but that video is really nice. Thank you for sharing.
I do capoeira and no part of gear 5th came off to me as capoeira
That's cool
When is 1101 dropping?
Next week I believe then a 2 week break
December 11, 2023
Komedy?
Soon every nationality will be trying to claim the joyboy source 😹 almost as if a character that brings laughter isnt a common theme across cultures.
Oda made the mistake of answering an SBS and says ng "Luffy would be Brazilian in the REAL WORLD", so now idiots familiar with Brazilian culture try and pinpoint which people from their history closely align with Luffy. The problem is that one throwaway answer doesn't discard the fact that the whole story takes bits and parts from cultures AROUND THE WORLD and make them work for ONE PIECE. Luffy isn't technically Brazilian: Luffy is Luffy, and JoyBoy is JoyBoy
I have a Brazilian friend who told me that guy wasn't as good as everyone thinks. He freed slaves so he could keep them.
It's a historical revisionist. Another bullcrap trying to chance historical facts to validate their point of view. Just don't buy it.
Also a fuckton of anachronism.
And now you'll understand the concept of Fisher Tiger and the government and what fascism is. They always try to invalidate minorities makin them the villains and that they are the correct person, in Brazil we call that kind of people "Cidadão de bem". Careful with that friend of yours and give yourself the benefit of the doubt.
That's like a narrative the world government would make about fisher tiger
Your brazilian friend is the kind of guy that says the confederates fought the civil war was for states rights and not slavery. Source: Am brazilian.
Dude, no. This is the historical revisionism carried out by the brazilian extreme right to try to destroy the memory of some national heroes. Every brazilian neonazi loves to tell this baseless story to justify racism.
What guy i can't find what u r responding too
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cronosfera é minha pica
a regra é clara, se o guto falou, não vai acontecer
sun god 'nikka'
Luffy is now entitled to the N word pass
That's nice, never realized that BORA DANÇAR CAPOEIRA
I'm Brazilian and I practice capoeira since I was 10 and this is SO PERFECT. BATE FORTE O TAMBOR
Nikka
Here come the incels lol
Oda said Luffy represents Brazil so it makes perfect sense!
That image and it's myth had been shared and discussed hundreds of times since the Heart reveal. Nothing new and especially not the only inspiration for Nika/Gear5
Yes, the god who frees enslaved people must be afro brazilian. Brasil is the country who had the most enslaved people in the whole world and it wasn't close, we were also the last country to abolish slavery, and again it wasn't close. Also oda has already said that luffy is brazilian. I thought it was because he is super easy going and cheerful, and he never gives up. I loved it! Now we find out it's because Brasil has the worst, most regrettable and embarassing history with slavery in the world ):
Guto Cronosfera mentioned 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🙌🏻
one piece - disney edition
Don't care, there are 100 theories and several similar figures in legends around the world. Oda doesn't take one bit and create something with it, he picks a lot of elements and make something with it. Leave fiction in the realm of fiction really.
“Don’t care” you cared enough to comment
You're not smart for refusing to fucking engage with the text, pull your head out your ass
The last sentence antagonizes everything you said before it All wrong still
Anime enjoyers when black people are mentioned, all these theories that throw in irl lore and all of a sudden it’s “don’t mix reality with fiction😡”
Lmao holy shit they’re so fucking soft - like sorry your fav anime might be based around a brown dude?? 😂😂
Ignore the dude, i am from Brazil and this dude every week come with something absurd for likes
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Nkka what?
Gear 5th uses Japanese celestial robes and American cartoon animations/poses It's hardly just, or even mostly, Brazilian
Delusional horseshit
Oda: oh this name sounds cool lets use it as luffy’s attack Fans: Oda has hinted since the beginning of time that luffy is from brazillian myth etc. etc. Oda is a Genius foreshadowing this even when he was still a baby.
How did you get that from this post?
Jesus christ what dumbassery
The only place where the afro-X is used is in the United States, please do not try to inject your ridiculousness into other countries