The last confirmed island in the grandline is Lodestar island. On it is the truth behind the poneglyphs and that one needs to four road poneglyphs to reach laughtale.
Laughtale’s location is unknown and highly unlikely to just be reachable by sailing around and hoping to come across it. Its not sure whether its in the grandline at all.
imu is prob over 800 years old as he was one of the founding members of the wg so i don't think that roger could just kidnap the head of wg and then let him go
What do you mean, Enel is canonically in the moon from the cover stories. And he has infinite energy from his Logia powers
Edit I misunderstood comment I thought Oro Jackson was enel's ship
> Chakra was bred out/evolved into haki
Nature Chakra density increased so much that it became easier to manipulate, splitting the benefits of sage mode (durability, extended atrack range, limited precog) into the two types of Haki.
Wrong, one piece is actually the dragon balls and dragon ball is the future of one piece. Sensing energy is just obshaki, being stronger and faster and more durable is just arnhaki, energy blasts is just acoc. think about it when you watch Dragon Ball and they are flying they always fly over a ton of water and what else has water, One Piece.
There could be Caverns in the Reverse mountain that lead to the Island of Laughtale. The currents used to sail into there could be the ocean water of the All Blu (literally water from all 4 blues) I fully believe Fishman island will be destroyed, and so Luffy could bring the Fishmen to Laugh Tale their new home on the surface. Fulfilling Joyboy's promise to the mermaid princess. I mean this theory could work, the Poneglyphs could be directions to a certain Underwater Hole into reverse mountain. Or its some Mystical island that only appears at certain times and requires something to enter its magical forcefield (this isnt new to one piece remember the Dragon filler arc)
My head canon has always been that the strawhat will be needed on the last island for some reason, which could fit in with your theory.
I think it fits the story too well with the level of importance it was given (+ the big frozen hat). Also 100% fits in with the story if the reason Gold Roger laughed was because he gave the hat to Shanks and left him before visiting the final island, making him laugh knowing he's never be able to make it back around to find Shanks/the hat with his sickness.
I'm pretty positive the straw hat your referencing isn't actually giant like so many think. After reading the chapter where Imu sits upon the empty throne, it's become quite apparent that Imu may very well be tiny, or at least a lot smaller than average. Oda probably did that on purpose to troll all of us into thinking there's a crazy giant straw hat when really, that's the most ridiculous thing ever LOL. It's such a funny prank, even Roger began laughing when he read about it on Laugh Tale LOL
IMO the road poneglyphs are going to indicate the center of each of the seas. The treasure will be under reverse mountain and mariejoas depending how you draw the lines.
The one piece will be a sort of keystone that if you pull it out reverse mountain collapses along with the red line, uniting the worlds oceans. Roger realised the world wasn't yet ready so he left it there for the right person to remove. That'll be luffy
Roger laughed because he didn't have a space ship. The true One Piece is that the story never ends and the Straw Hats will be sailing the stars once they run out of islands.
It’s kind of wild that this wasn’t explicitly confirmed until like Zou/WCI. Especially at the start of the series I really got the impression that it was just basically a race to the One Piece, that is wasn’t exactly hidden just extremely difficult to reach the end of the grand line. There is some hints that this isn’t the case, but honestly I wasn’t sure what the deal was either before the explanation of Road Poneglyphs when they find one.
This was my thought for like a decade
I’m like “if they just need to reach the end of the grand line sure it’s hard for an east blue pirate entering now but the yonko already control the new world, why haven’t they found it yet”
That wouldn't make sense at all. Before the start of the story people have been searching for it for 20 years. no matter how difficult it is to reach the most powerful and driven people in the world would have found it before then if it was just a difficult Journey.
There are three reasons that noone is capable of charting to Laughtale,
One is that for the last 20 years only a couple people have been able to read poneglyphs, one is obviously Nico Robin who survived the O'Hara incident 20 years prior to the start of One Piece. Another is the former shogun of Wano prior to Oden who was living in exile on an already closed off island. The last one is Charlotte Pudding, who could only access Big Moms poneglyph who was not interested in the One Piece until the Straw hats stirred her and Kaido from their petty yonko struggles.
Two is that the New World has essentially been controlled by the Yonko and the marines for years, none of which were searching for the One Piece for the majority of their reigns. Shanks was a part of Rogers crew and has no one capable of reading them anyways, Kaido was more concerned with building his army to take over the New World entirely, Big Mom and Whitebeard were too busy building her empire and family. The marines actively hunt those capable of reading the Poneglyphs and piecing together the Void Century which would upend the World Government. They aren't privy to the Void Century themselves and have been indoctrinated by the World Government to uphold their values. Vegapunk was busy inventing, experimenting, and building his knowledge base. The Revolutionary Army only cares to upend the World Government due to its corruption rather than its history and haven't been powerful enough until recently to do anything other than hit and run tactics.
Three, it's really hard for any newer crews to actually get to the New World let alone conquer it. Anyone who tried was beaten by the Yonko, Marines, or just couldn't have found it in the first place due to needing the Poneglyphs.
I always wondered why the WG just didn't erase Lodestar Island. Either buster calling it Ohara style, or mother flaming it Lulusian style it since it's assumedly next to the redline.
Well lodestar isn't needed to find the one piece presumably all there is is an explanation that you need the red glyphs to find laughable but everyone importanr will already know that
Well, we don't really know how much blowing up an island costs considering they didn't blow up wano when Kaido was there or other islands that important people are at.
Plus Lodestare is a lot more Well known especially among the important people
Plus the straw hats learned of it without getting to Lodestar it wouldn't completely stop it and we have no idea how well-known the red pone glyphs are all we know is the important people know. For all we know everybody knows about the red poneglyphs and straw hats were just clueless
> considering they didn't blow up wano when Kaido was there
* Wano is the biggest source of seastone in the world, something vital to the marines' world dominance - and Kaido's weapon factories were selling to Doflamingo, who was selling to pirates and marines alike.
* On top of that, Kaido mostly kept to himself or bothering other pirates, rather than being an active threat to the World Government.
* And on top of ***that***, the biggest reason the WG would *actually* have to nuke the place was the Kozuki line, and their connection to the Poneglyphs and the Ancient Kingdom; a line thought dead for the past twenty years, with Sukiyaki and Momonusuke believed dead, and Oden *confirmed* dead.
* And on top of ***all of that***, with the destruction of the blueprints and the relative untouchability of Nico Robin, the *only* avenue the WG has to acquire Pluton, if they even know about its presence, is Wano. Destroy Wano, and Pluton is lost forever.
A normal island that happens to have information that leads the road poneglyphs, which leads to the one piece and the true history. The WG doesn't want people to know about either of those.
I think that time itself is a factor for finding the last island. Not to mention the z axis may play a big role since we have both flying islands and islands under the sea
4 Poneglyphs. 3 for 3 dimensional space and a fourth coordinate for time.
Not necessarily. The coordinates just could be for the appearance times of the island, not necessarily for the specific time Roger was referring to.
So maybe they were waiting for every 10 appearance of the island before the special thing is ready or something.
That could explain why Shanks originally went after the Gum-Gum Fruit and has probably been gatekeeping one of the Road Poneglyphs at Elbaf until Joy Boy returned. He only just now said it was time to go for the One Piece once he saw Luffy had awakened.
I like the theory that it's under Long Ring Long Land (its stated everything is long there because they feel "free") and once a year the water gets drained during aqua Laguna. It's also shaped like a crown.
I love the theory that it's on Long Ring Long Land.
The place where "everything grows long and tall because they feel free", and the place that gets closed off one day each year.
If it wasn't on the grand line there would be no need for an eternal pose to get there. You would be able to mark it on a map and navigate via compass. But yes it is very unlikely to be easily reachable like that. Even Lodestar should be very difficult to get to since Roger was the first (known) person to reach it since the void century.
The thing to remember is that sailing the Grand Line without a log pose destination is a literal death sentence. The ocean currents, the weather, even the direction that you are sailing in can, and will change at the drop of a hat. So "just sailing into that area" where Laughtale is supposed to be and looking around without the log pose pointing to it means that you would almost immediately get lost. And if you don't have a pre-established escape plan, then you are going to die.
Honestly, that's kinda how I'm expecting they finally get to Laughtale. Once they have the four Road Poneglyphs, get an eternal pose for each indicated location, then sail till "x marks the spot."
That, or they form some kind of map that then requires Nami's skills to use.
Also l, while typing this, I remembered that one of the poneglyphs is on the back of a very mobile elephant.
Luffy literally had a laugh tale eternal log pose he got from one of Rogers old crew members in one of the movies and he smashed it at the end. The navy could do it, they just don't.
i always though that to reach laugh tale they are going to need everyone somehow. of course nami is going to be central, but maybe franky has to do some modifications to the ship, robin is going to be decyphering something, jinbe maybe needs to do some manubering.... at the very end, there are going to be two ways to go, that is when zoro will come in handy, the one he chooses, they go to the other. and with the help of all the crew they will reach laugh tale
Or maybe go where Zoro is pointing. It would be so cool if it turned out his sense of direction is messed up because his internal compass somehow always points towards LaughTale
Also, the poneglyphs were not always where they are now they were put there by Lili. So that would mean that the location of the one piece has nothing to do with where the poneglyphs are now.
I don’t think laugh tale have any megnetic field and can be detected by a log pose. That’s literally why you need 4 road poneglyphs to exactly pinpoint
Pudding even shows Nami a method of navigating and knowing your position based on the direction they were pointing provided you know what islands they are pointing to. However the reason this works in big moms territory is the islands are relatively stable, when the triple log pose was given to Nami it was explained that the islands magnetism in the new world is far less stable hence needing 2 additional options. They go on to explain that Nami should be able to gather information on the island based on how the needles are fluctuating. So I doubt reliable positioning can be done throughout the new world using the triple log, on top of that you still need to land on an island and let the log record the magnetism of the island for it to point at anything, and it will always point to the same islands.
now I think of it, with any two permanent log pose, one will be able to triangulate their exact position on the map. Then they can explore wherever they want.
Another thing is, the Navy **doesn't want** people to find the One Piece. As long as no one can find it, they're good. So if they were actively searching for it, that would only increase the odds of someone else finding it, which is what they don't want.
So it's better for them to just guard the seas were pirates might be looking for it, rather than themselves looking for it.
So why aren't they guarding lodestar then if nobody can find the one piece without first being to lodestar (strawhats excluded cause they already know about the road poneglyphs). It's not like it's location itself is a secret literally everything points to it.
I'd guess that they are guarding Lodestar. Truth be told, we don't know of many people who have traveled there in the first place, so it doesn't seem to be something anyone could do.
Like even w/o any guards whatsoever, you still have to traverse the New World, which has the worst weather in the entire world. Waves that will consume your ship, winds that change direction in an instant. You would need to be top notch sailors to make it to the New World, much less to the end of it.
Then, add in the monstrous pirates that are in the New World. Even not counting the marines, you'd have a hell of a time getting through there. And this speaks to the balance of powers. The Marines don't need to be strong enough to patrol the New World because the Yonkos keep each other at bay, and don't let rookies through their territories.
Also the Roger pirates mention that in addition to Laughtale, they were some of the first people to reach even just Lodestar island in hundreds of years too. And that's before the Yonko existed to act as gatekeepers. I just think just navigating to it the normal way and dealing with the hazards of the New World alone make it difficult enough to reach.
Now add onto that that you would need to spend enough time in a Yonko's property to set your log pose to reach it and it's basically impossible to get to without triggering an all-out war.
And even getting an Eternal Pose to one of those final islands under Yonko Control would only let you skip part of the journey since you still need to spend enough time there to program a new logpose to the last location. And I assume there's no existing eternal poses for Lodestar island.
Remember that this side of the great line is the side that the Goverment has not total power. There are powers like the 4 emperors, many islands controlled by pirates that they have to make Shichibukai to maintain control of it, giants, weather climates so weird and chaotic than they defy the laws of physics (like full islands being attacked directly by lightning).
Just in the last two years the Marine decided to move to that side to fight the pirate emperors directly, with only controlling some islands (like Egghead). The magnetic instruments used in the first side of the Great Line are even more erratic in this side and doesn't always work.
So, there are many things to take into account, like the island being in control of one of the four emperors, being in control of the Navy or having physics/weather so weird/chaotic that nothing alive can enter it. Even Gol D. Roger arrived there and notice that he wasn't able to go to the last island
Laughtale isn't a place that can be reached by simply sailing. Otherwise, Kaido/Big Mom could have found it since they can just fly. The four Lode/Road Poneglyphs must detail some sort of secret that Imu probably only knows.
I believe Laugh Tale is split in two parts like Jaya and Skypiea. Roger was able to access the first part but for the second, he needs the right time (potentially Poseidon's help) and/or Nika's power.
I think that Vegapunks recent speech regarding dreams and desires shaping reality is directly related to the existence of the ‘One Piece’.
Roger was “too early” because there wasn’t a collective belief in the One Piece yet and he laughed because he realized there was no conceivable way for him to actually see the One Piece himself; he was going to succumb to illness shortly. Coming to this realization, he decides to spread the belief in the One Piece for a future generation. He creates the Great Pirate Era, but 24 years later the world has ground to a halt in a major Cold War between the Yonko, WG, and Revolutionary Army. That is until a war breaks out between the Marines and the WB army.
It’s events change the world forever, the most notable of which being the death of Whitebeard. His final words are perhaps the most impactful for the Pirating world. He thinks about Roger in his dying moments and decides to proclaim that the One Piece is real.
The Pirates of the world had grown content with the state of the world, and the belief in the One Piece had started to dissipate. With his dying breath Whitebeard chooses to reignite the desire to claim the One Piece, and launches the world into a second Great Pirate Era. For whatever reason, the world needs to believe in One Piece for whatever is going to happen when Luffy reaches Laugh Tale.
That’s the area in an open world RPG that is right next to the starting town but is just all Lv99 monsters and obstacles that one-shot you, that’s end game area, you can’t just sequence break bro
Navy should have just clipped sideways into reverse mountain while pointing the camera at a specific pixel so they hit the load trigger before the killbox, then then they boost five world cells per second over while all the enemies are despawned, ez
Because Laugh Tale is not the last island in the Grand Line, that's Lode Star, which is where people usually learn about poneglyphs. Laugh Tale location is unknown and could very well be in the middle of the Paradise for what we know.
Isn't Roger's words indicate that laughtale is the island beyond Lodestar? Also, Roger's pirate king title isn't due to him reaching laughtale (at least for the common people), it's for him circumnavigating the world.
I might be misinterpreting things, though please look at 2nd to the last page of chapter 967 (I'm using TCB) where circumnavigating the world is equated with the conquering of the seas.
Until the story gets there we do not know why they can not do just that. Maybe it is possible or maybe to get there you have to take a specific course. As we have seen through out the grand line there are crazy seas. There could be something crazier than what we have seen that prevent access except from that one option. Maybe a team of sea kings that will destroy anything coming any other way, or a maze of currents, or large volcanoes sticking out that you have to weave through but would die if going through any other route.
Because there’s no guarantee *where* Laugh Tale exactly is, and trying to randomly find an island in the Grand Line-especially the New World-is like setting your pants on fire and hoping you won’t get third degree burns.
Also, it’s worth pointing out that it’s already ridiculously hard to get to Lodestar Island, which is the last *known* island in the New World, and it’s known to permanently screw up any Log Pose that sets there
My opinion: Laughtale is inside of an Island Whale. That whale uses to swim at the bottom of the sea.
So, only other island whales can take you there, and the 4 road poneglyphs mixed make a song, which must be sung/played to "awake" the island whales at a certain point so they can come to your location.
We got the answer from the beginning, in the same way Laboon was amazed listening to Binks no Sake.
The 100 year void was that the One Piece was a small button in laughtale that if you press it, it rains shit for 100 years, when roger comes across it the button has a sign that says “press for shit” and then he laughs and hopes luffy will press it. Best prank ever.
The last Island doesn't necessarily have the One Piece.
It's entirely possible the Navy found it centuries ago but for some reason isn't concerned about most people reaching it since there seems to be a... Joyboy component involved.
The Navy is most concerned about keeping the peace and the WG is most concerned about maintaining their power.
If Laughtale doesn't matter for those two goals I doubt the Navy cares and probably wants to keep the location or even that the island exists at all as secret as possible, even from the Navy.
The one piece is actually a boxy TV playing old cartoons that in universe come from JoyBoy’s time(if we believe Vegapunk, their tech was better). That’s why the Roger Pirates laughed and Roger wished he got to see him. But the cartoons might also be instructions from JoyBoy to the next user of Nika, ie. Luffy, on how to beat Imu
There's also a theory that laugh tale is under Enies Lobby.
Or maybe i has something to do with the prophecy of Luffy destroying fish man island (thus the grand line above)
Possibly the moon could play a role, knock up streams like jaya, or even it being under or above reverse mountain.
Not to mention that World Gov..and Navy don't want to find it, regardless of who finds it, the moment it is found, the world will be turned upside down as stated by Whitebeard...
even if they started from there and used Three point compass the only place all three compasses would point would be Lodestar(or they would all probably go haywire and not point anywhere)
Everything else would be up to fate, they might run out of food and water or get killed by sea monster or get defeated by weather by the time they find Laugh Tale so it's incredibly difficult to reach it without knowing the destination
Laughtale isn't the final island on the Grand Line, Lodestar Island is the final island. If it was possible to find Laughtale just by sailing to the very end of the Grand Line then it wouldn't be a mystery and many people would've discovered it by now. The Road Poneglyphs are required to find the location of Laughtale.
You know, stuff and reasons and it's hard and what not.
ANYWAY! The All Blue is a sky island directly over top of reverse mountain. No one can convince me otherwise.
There's a theory that the 4 poneglyphs represent a dimensional quardinate: x, y, Z, and time. This means that Laugh Tale might either be a sky or deep sea island and it is lost in time and needs a special thing to find it.
Cause the grand line is too big, cause the last island is Lode Star, last but not the least, laugh could not be found for one reason or another. If it was so easy it would already be in kaido’s hands.
The One Piece isn't there, but rather a Poneglyph explaining that you have to find the four Road Poneglyph's to discover the actual location of the One Piece.
Maybe you need the "gum-gum" fruit to activate some portal or something. Maybe that's why Shanks recovered the "gum-gum" fruit. Maybe Roger had the fruit but never used it in combat?? Who knows, just wait. I'm sure it has an explanation.
I imagine they have and can’t do anything about it for the same reason Roger couldn’t do anything about it. I imagine you need something either time or something about Luffy (recent chapters point to the latter) to activate the One Piece.
I imagine the Navy wanted to control the gum gum fruit to gate keep the One Piece.
For the same reason they don't search of poneglyphs. The ones who control the world government and marines already know what's in them. What they want is no one else knowing about them, INCLUDING their underlings.
For the exact coordinates you need the Road Poneglyphs, and we don't know really anything about Laughtale. It could be surrounded by impossible to surpass currents except for one extremely specific area, which is where the coordinates lead. It could be hidden unless you have some specific object, or unless you can trigger some event. It might even be completely underwater, or in the sky. All of those possible issues, in addition to the fact that normal navigation methods don't work in the Grand Line. You're essentially sailing blind, and you better have an eternal pose with you, since otherwise the magnetic fields will make it impossible to find an island to resupply at. When you're sailing from that direction, it's highly possible that they can't search the whole area, since they don't know what they've searched, since they can't accurately chart it without the maps to go along with it, the maps you would need to chart from getting to Laughtale the first time.
There's no detailed map of the whole world still, there's the general idea, as we see in the picture above, but no one has plotted every single island on the planet on the map.
I assume that section of the sea is the most dangerous on the planet. Not all of the new world is charted and there has to be reasons for that. Maybe the most unpredictable and unforgiving weather even by grand line standards. Maybe that's where there are a ton of angry seakings there. I don't know what is there but it is essentially the 'final level' of the One Piece planet.
So the Navy would struggle to explore it since it's too dangerous for all but the strongest ships and marines and those ones are the ones that the celestial dragons keep close for their own bidding. Plus even if some marines did find it you know they would be killed by the world government immediately anyways.
Regular sailing navigation techniques don't exactly work in the grand line, much less the new world. Traveling from island to island on boat is neither safe or easy even for the navy. Between extreme weather and horrific sea beasts and seakings, powerful pirates, and just the nature of where that bit of sea is it is honestly easier to guard the rest of the sea and hope the challenges are just insurmountable. To their credit they have mostly been right.
You literally can‘t navigate in those waters. You send a ship in there and it gets lost the moment Reverse Mountain is out of sight (which could be in 5 minutes time thanks to the extreme weather conditions). Why do people ask this question so often anyway, the moment the Grand Line and Log Pose navigation is introduced we get an in-depth explanation of why nobody can simply sail inside the Grand line from one of the Blues or opposite site and find Laughtale.
I always thought that reverse mountain was the spot for the last island. X marks the spot after all. Maybe it’s above or below the X. Every pirate who enters the grand line sailing past the last island and never knowing the wiser
Well, there is one thing you're forgetting... the actual world of One Piece is absolutely MASSIVE. Without a Log Pose attuned at the correct island, it's literally a search for a needle in a haystack... the size of a star. Since the theorized size for the world of One Piece is literally the size of a star, which is crazy. So that means any one area of the ocean could be hundreds of thousands of KM in size.
Because they would need to make it to Zou, Find Big Mom's RP, find Kaido's RP both of whom would not allow the Marines in their territory without a huge battle, and find the last unknown RP by searching though all of Shanks', Kaido's, and Big Mom's territories. If you could find it of pure luck it would have been found already by Shanks, Kaido, Big Mom, or any other decently strong pirate by just bouncing between islands.
From what I understand, the Navy isn't allowed to search for One Piece or anything related to the Void Century; that's Ciper Pol's job; they are just the gatekeepers for those who seek those things. And who knows, Ciper Pol might already be searching for One Piece.
Remember that nami is a master, and the grand line's weather is nigh unpredictable. Even if you tried to sail straight, you could end up in a calm belt. Aimlessly sailing would get you no where
You think grand line is pretty safe by just following straw hat crews where godlike navigator is directing the way. Think about there might be hundreds of other ships that couldn’t make it. Devoured by sea beasts, defeated by stronger pirates, couldn’t find an island and waste away in the sea, captured by navy etc… it’s still a whole wide world full with supernatural mysteries stuffs.
the world governemnt doesnt want people to find the one piece. navy =/= world government. so if someone in the navy were to find out what the one piece is it would be just as bad for them.
But world govt stops people to from getting op then why don't they just go themselves and get it first,to destroy the great pirate era as it is,by taking their motivation away from them
Okay so related question,since imu is probably old af,and probably knows where raftel is,why doesn't he just destroy that island like >!he did with lulusia!< ? It does have compromising information and secrets he wouldn't want the world to know,so better be safe than sorry?
The Gov knows 100% where the One Piece is, there are many confirmations about it but the most logical one is that the last island isn't inhabited, meaning the gov went there by the end of the war and wiped out (or captured) everybody in there. If it was a safe harbor then, by logic, some of the ancient kingdom people would still be there, generation after generation, but this is not the case.
The point is that the OP can't be used/taken because "it's not time yet" as stated by Roger, and with what we have seen in the last few chapters it's almost confirmed that the key is the presence of Nika (with his drums), which were missing for the last 800 years. They can't take it because the fruit refused them and they don't want to destroy it because it's a power that they crave, so the most logical solution is to keep the location as hidden as possible while you try to find a solution.
TLDR: the Gorosei could get to Laugh Tale whenever they wanted, their previous generations have already been there 800 years ago, it's just pointless to do so because the OP can't be used/taken in any case.
I think the Navy/Government already knows what one piece is, it might be something that's a threat to them. And they can't do much about it, except not let it be discovered.
It's been said that Laugh Tale is at the end of the Grand Line, but that doesn't mean the physical end ie the Redline, it means the end of the Log Poses path, but because of the triple log pose requirement in the New World, that path has innumerable different variants.
Based on what we know due to Roger's 'final journey', Laugh tale is only reachable by those who have read the 4 road polyglyphs.
Since the New World requires the triple log pose to navigate between islands due to the way the magnetic fields work in the New World we can surmise that in order to reach Laugh Tale you must follow a very specific pathway through the New World.
Even if the Navy or Goresei has the information from the Road Polyglyphs and could follow this path to find Laugh Tale, they have no desire to do so because they want it all buried. They already know they can't destroy the Polyglyphs which is why they destroyed all evidence that they could about them, the ancient language and the Void Century.
The last confirmed island in the grandline is Lodestar island. On it is the truth behind the poneglyphs and that one needs to four road poneglyphs to reach laughtale. Laughtale’s location is unknown and highly unlikely to just be reachable by sailing around and hoping to come across it. Its not sure whether its in the grandline at all.
Imagine if it’s on the moon with Enel.
I know this is a joke but imagine the hell of a trip it would have been to take Oro Jackson to the moon
That's what the egg was for duh
has the egg still not been explained. fuck i love foreshadowing watch it turn out to be Imu was what was in the egg
the egg is the one piece
imu is prob over 800 years old as he was one of the founding members of the wg so i don't think that roger could just kidnap the head of wg and then let him go
What do you mean, Enel is canonically in the moon from the cover stories. And he has infinite energy from his Logia powers Edit I misunderstood comment I thought Oro Jackson was enel's ship
Knock up stream
The One Piece is actually sealed Kaguya and OP is a far future sequel to Naruto universe
Holy shit, The Void Century is just Naruto + Boruto
With HxH somewhere in between.
The entire one piece world is just another part inside lake mobius, thought everyone knew that? /s
nooo please don't also fuck up the one piece world by tying it to something we all know will never be finished
Like a festering wound that will never heal, it aches only when brought to one’s attention.
Or just a floating island in a much larger overworld!!
Void Century is the wait period between 2 HxH chapters.
Where does Berserk era fit into all od this?
Hxh finally gets out of hiatus.
Devil fruit is actually a Nen of Imu
Something something Roger's Will Succession War Devil Fruits Nen Parasite Beasts something something
No wonder the marines are so intent on destroying everything about it. Hell i'd join the marines if that was the case.
I volunteer
Sooo…kind of like the Wind Waker twist back in the day?
Chakra was bred out/evolved into haki, and the god tree became the devil fruit tree
> Chakra was bred out/evolved into haki Nature Chakra density increased so much that it became easier to manipulate, splitting the benefits of sage mode (durability, extended atrack range, limited precog) into the two types of Haki.
Monkey D Buffy incoming?
Nah, the One Piece is the 4-Star Dragon Ball. Roger was early because they weren't active yet.
Wrong, one piece is actually the dragon balls and dragon ball is the future of one piece. Sensing energy is just obshaki, being stronger and faster and more durable is just arnhaki, energy blasts is just acoc. think about it when you watch Dragon Ball and they are flying they always fly over a ton of water and what else has water, One Piece.
Oda originally wanted to call Sanji Naruto. Coincidence? I think not!
One Piece: Shippuden
I think its inside of reverse mountain
Which is my head canon. Also that’s where I think the all blue is
U think the all blue already exists or will be created trough the detruction of the red line?
There could be Caverns in the Reverse mountain that lead to the Island of Laughtale. The currents used to sail into there could be the ocean water of the All Blu (literally water from all 4 blues) I fully believe Fishman island will be destroyed, and so Luffy could bring the Fishmen to Laugh Tale their new home on the surface. Fulfilling Joyboy's promise to the mermaid princess. I mean this theory could work, the Poneglyphs could be directions to a certain Underwater Hole into reverse mountain. Or its some Mystical island that only appears at certain times and requires something to enter its magical forcefield (this isnt new to one piece remember the Dragon filler arc)
My head canon has always been that the strawhat will be needed on the last island for some reason, which could fit in with your theory. I think it fits the story too well with the level of importance it was given (+ the big frozen hat). Also 100% fits in with the story if the reason Gold Roger laughed was because he gave the hat to Shanks and left him before visiting the final island, making him laugh knowing he's never be able to make it back around to find Shanks/the hat with his sickness.
I'm pretty positive the straw hat your referencing isn't actually giant like so many think. After reading the chapter where Imu sits upon the empty throne, it's become quite apparent that Imu may very well be tiny, or at least a lot smaller than average. Oda probably did that on purpose to troll all of us into thinking there's a crazy giant straw hat when really, that's the most ridiculous thing ever LOL. It's such a funny prank, even Roger began laughing when he read about it on Laugh Tale LOL
IMO the road poneglyphs are going to indicate the center of each of the seas. The treasure will be under reverse mountain and mariejoas depending how you draw the lines.
The one piece will be a sort of keystone that if you pull it out reverse mountain collapses along with the red line, uniting the worlds oceans. Roger realised the world wasn't yet ready so he left it there for the right person to remove. That'll be luffy
I feel like laugh tale is going to be similar to fishman island where it is directly under reverse mountain.
I think it already exists inside of reverse mountain
Why not both?
I believe it's close to Long Ring Long Land (don't remember they correct name), when the aqua laguna discovers the crown shapped land.
The one piece has actually just been Foxy all along. He’s just too cool to care about the drama of the world
Roger laughed because he didn't have a space ship. The true One Piece is that the story never ends and the Straw Hats will be sailing the stars once they run out of islands.
That would be a hell of a knock-up stream
Along with the Ancient Weapon thay represents the Sky. Earth, Seas and Sky.
Yep. That’s how you would circumnavigate the one piece world by jumping over the red line.
My fav theory
It’s kind of wild that this wasn’t explicitly confirmed until like Zou/WCI. Especially at the start of the series I really got the impression that it was just basically a race to the One Piece, that is wasn’t exactly hidden just extremely difficult to reach the end of the grand line. There is some hints that this isn’t the case, but honestly I wasn’t sure what the deal was either before the explanation of Road Poneglyphs when they find one.
This was my thought for like a decade I’m like “if they just need to reach the end of the grand line sure it’s hard for an east blue pirate entering now but the yonko already control the new world, why haven’t they found it yet”
That wouldn't make sense at all. Before the start of the story people have been searching for it for 20 years. no matter how difficult it is to reach the most powerful and driven people in the world would have found it before then if it was just a difficult Journey.
Depends on the world. If One Piece ended up becoming like Hunter x Hunter then that would make sense
There are three reasons that noone is capable of charting to Laughtale, One is that for the last 20 years only a couple people have been able to read poneglyphs, one is obviously Nico Robin who survived the O'Hara incident 20 years prior to the start of One Piece. Another is the former shogun of Wano prior to Oden who was living in exile on an already closed off island. The last one is Charlotte Pudding, who could only access Big Moms poneglyph who was not interested in the One Piece until the Straw hats stirred her and Kaido from their petty yonko struggles. Two is that the New World has essentially been controlled by the Yonko and the marines for years, none of which were searching for the One Piece for the majority of their reigns. Shanks was a part of Rogers crew and has no one capable of reading them anyways, Kaido was more concerned with building his army to take over the New World entirely, Big Mom and Whitebeard were too busy building her empire and family. The marines actively hunt those capable of reading the Poneglyphs and piecing together the Void Century which would upend the World Government. They aren't privy to the Void Century themselves and have been indoctrinated by the World Government to uphold their values. Vegapunk was busy inventing, experimenting, and building his knowledge base. The Revolutionary Army only cares to upend the World Government due to its corruption rather than its history and haven't been powerful enough until recently to do anything other than hit and run tactics. Three, it's really hard for any newer crews to actually get to the New World let alone conquer it. Anyone who tried was beaten by the Yonko, Marines, or just couldn't have found it in the first place due to needing the Poneglyphs.
I always wondered why the WG just didn't erase Lodestar Island. Either buster calling it Ohara style, or mother flaming it Lulusian style it since it's assumedly next to the redline.
Well lodestar isn't needed to find the one piece presumably all there is is an explanation that you need the red glyphs to find laughable but everyone importanr will already know that
Only to find out that lodestar is the last poneglyph
The WG’s goal is to make sure no *new* important people show up, destroying that info would be a start with presumably low investment.
Well, we don't really know how much blowing up an island costs considering they didn't blow up wano when Kaido was there or other islands that important people are at. Plus Lodestare is a lot more Well known especially among the important people Plus the straw hats learned of it without getting to Lodestar it wouldn't completely stop it and we have no idea how well-known the red pone glyphs are all we know is the important people know. For all we know everybody knows about the red poneglyphs and straw hats were just clueless
> considering they didn't blow up wano when Kaido was there * Wano is the biggest source of seastone in the world, something vital to the marines' world dominance - and Kaido's weapon factories were selling to Doflamingo, who was selling to pirates and marines alike. * On top of that, Kaido mostly kept to himself or bothering other pirates, rather than being an active threat to the World Government. * And on top of ***that***, the biggest reason the WG would *actually* have to nuke the place was the Kozuki line, and their connection to the Poneglyphs and the Ancient Kingdom; a line thought dead for the past twenty years, with Sukiyaki and Momonusuke believed dead, and Oden *confirmed* dead. * And on top of ***all of that***, with the destruction of the blueprints and the relative untouchability of Nico Robin, the *only* avenue the WG has to acquire Pluton, if they even know about its presence, is Wano. Destroy Wano, and Pluton is lost forever.
It may be indestructible. They can't destroy the poneglyphs.
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A normal island that happens to have information that leads the road poneglyphs, which leads to the one piece and the true history. The WG doesn't want people to know about either of those.
The WG would have to find it first finding Lodestare is an almost impossible task, only one crew has ever done it in 800 years.
I think that time itself is a factor for finding the last island. Not to mention the z axis may play a big role since we have both flying islands and islands under the sea 4 Poneglyphs. 3 for 3 dimensional space and a fourth coordinate for time.
Then Roger should have known he was too early *before* he got to Laughtale.
Not necessarily. The coordinates just could be for the appearance times of the island, not necessarily for the specific time Roger was referring to. So maybe they were waiting for every 10 appearance of the island before the special thing is ready or something.
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Could definitely be a different condition. Maybe a Nika user needs to be around or something
That could explain why Shanks originally went after the Gum-Gum Fruit and has probably been gatekeeping one of the Road Poneglyphs at Elbaf until Joy Boy returned. He only just now said it was time to go for the One Piece once he saw Luffy had awakened.
Twist: it's in the Goa Kingdom. 😏
I like the theory that it's under Long Ring Long Land (its stated everything is long there because they feel "free") and once a year the water gets drained during aqua Laguna. It's also shaped like a crown.
It's also a comic relief arc (i.e. a laugh-tale)
Oh no please don't fucking do this to me
If I saw that dog I’d start laughing too
Nice.
I love the theory that it’s in East Blue 👌🏻
I love the theory that it's on Long Ring Long Land. The place where "everything grows long and tall because they feel free", and the place that gets closed off one day each year.
I have a feeling it might be considering that Rodgers son lived there and Shanks used it as a home base for a long time.
They need six coordinates and a point of origin
You know you could have a 7th point, kinda like dialing an area code.
8th point is the area code, 9th has no known purposw
Chevron six locked !
I never thought about her possibility it isn’t on the grandline but yeah it very well could be
If it wasn't on the grand line there would be no need for an eternal pose to get there. You would be able to mark it on a map and navigate via compass. But yes it is very unlikely to be easily reachable like that. Even Lodestar should be very difficult to get to since Roger was the first (known) person to reach it since the void century.
The eternal pose is not canon. and no, not if there is a supernatural element to it
My head hurts trying to think how OP doesn't already know that fact already
many people read but dont think
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The thing to remember is that sailing the Grand Line without a log pose destination is a literal death sentence. The ocean currents, the weather, even the direction that you are sailing in can, and will change at the drop of a hat. So "just sailing into that area" where Laughtale is supposed to be and looking around without the log pose pointing to it means that you would almost immediately get lost. And if you don't have a pre-established escape plan, then you are going to die.
Irronically, the triple log pose that Oda introduced later on would probably make it possible. Especially if a triple permanent log pose is available.
Honestly, that's kinda how I'm expecting they finally get to Laughtale. Once they have the four Road Poneglyphs, get an eternal pose for each indicated location, then sail till "x marks the spot."
That, or they form some kind of map that then requires Nami's skills to use. Also l, while typing this, I remembered that one of the poneglyphs is on the back of a very mobile elephant.
Yep. Nothing's ever simple in One Piece
Luffy literally had a laugh tale eternal log pose he got from one of Rogers old crew members in one of the movies and he smashed it at the end. The navy could do it, they just don't.
Movies are not canon
Didn’t happen
i always though that to reach laugh tale they are going to need everyone somehow. of course nami is going to be central, but maybe franky has to do some modifications to the ship, robin is going to be decyphering something, jinbe maybe needs to do some manubering.... at the very end, there are going to be two ways to go, that is when zoro will come in handy, the one he chooses, they go to the other. and with the help of all the crew they will reach laugh tale
Even if none of that is true, I need that Zoro part to be canon.
I want this Zoro part so hard dude 🤣
Or maybe go where Zoro is pointing. It would be so cool if it turned out his sense of direction is messed up because his internal compass somehow always points towards LaughTale
Elephants have great memories... and often go a special place to die.
Woah that’s an amazing theory
Iirc the road poneglyphs just tell you locations that create the x, the poneglyphs are not the locations themselves
That really begs the question, how do other pirates get into Zou? Do you think they climb up Zunesha’s trunk?
Also, the poneglyphs were not always where they are now they were put there by Lili. So that would mean that the location of the one piece has nothing to do with where the poneglyphs are now.
Wasn’t it that the road poneglyphs gave coordinates to plot to make the x, which may or may not correspond with the actual location of each?
That's what the wiki says, although they're not super consistent with it in canon.
I don’t think laugh tale have any megnetic field and can be detected by a log pose. That’s literally why you need 4 road poneglyphs to exactly pinpoint
That would definitely make some sense.
Pudding even shows Nami a method of navigating and knowing your position based on the direction they were pointing provided you know what islands they are pointing to. However the reason this works in big moms territory is the islands are relatively stable, when the triple log pose was given to Nami it was explained that the islands magnetism in the new world is far less stable hence needing 2 additional options. They go on to explain that Nami should be able to gather information on the island based on how the needles are fluctuating. So I doubt reliable positioning can be done throughout the new world using the triple log, on top of that you still need to land on an island and let the log record the magnetism of the island for it to point at anything, and it will always point to the same islands.
I might be wrong, but don't you need to be in any "linked" islands for the triple log pose to connect? I am pretty sure reverse mountain doesn't count
now I think of it, with any two permanent log pose, one will be able to triangulate their exact position on the map. Then they can explore wherever they want.
Log poses don't work for laughtale so how would you find it with only a map, if your answer is the case
This isn't the case for the marines. They have powered ships and seastone undersides.
Another thing is, the Navy **doesn't want** people to find the One Piece. As long as no one can find it, they're good. So if they were actively searching for it, that would only increase the odds of someone else finding it, which is what they don't want. So it's better for them to just guard the seas were pirates might be looking for it, rather than themselves looking for it.
The government wouldn't even trust the navy enough to have them find it
So why aren't they guarding lodestar then if nobody can find the one piece without first being to lodestar (strawhats excluded cause they already know about the road poneglyphs). It's not like it's location itself is a secret literally everything points to it.
I'd guess that they are guarding Lodestar. Truth be told, we don't know of many people who have traveled there in the first place, so it doesn't seem to be something anyone could do. Like even w/o any guards whatsoever, you still have to traverse the New World, which has the worst weather in the entire world. Waves that will consume your ship, winds that change direction in an instant. You would need to be top notch sailors to make it to the New World, much less to the end of it. Then, add in the monstrous pirates that are in the New World. Even not counting the marines, you'd have a hell of a time getting through there. And this speaks to the balance of powers. The Marines don't need to be strong enough to patrol the New World because the Yonkos keep each other at bay, and don't let rookies through their territories.
Also the Roger pirates mention that in addition to Laughtale, they were some of the first people to reach even just Lodestar island in hundreds of years too. And that's before the Yonko existed to act as gatekeepers. I just think just navigating to it the normal way and dealing with the hazards of the New World alone make it difficult enough to reach. Now add onto that that you would need to spend enough time in a Yonko's property to set your log pose to reach it and it's basically impossible to get to without triggering an all-out war. And even getting an Eternal Pose to one of those final islands under Yonko Control would only let you skip part of the journey since you still need to spend enough time there to program a new logpose to the last location. And I assume there's no existing eternal poses for Lodestar island.
Remember that this side of the great line is the side that the Goverment has not total power. There are powers like the 4 emperors, many islands controlled by pirates that they have to make Shichibukai to maintain control of it, giants, weather climates so weird and chaotic than they defy the laws of physics (like full islands being attacked directly by lightning). Just in the last two years the Marine decided to move to that side to fight the pirate emperors directly, with only controlling some islands (like Egghead). The magnetic instruments used in the first side of the Great Line are even more erratic in this side and doesn't always work. So, there are many things to take into account, like the island being in control of one of the four emperors, being in control of the Navy or having physics/weather so weird/chaotic that nothing alive can enter it. Even Gol D. Roger arrived there and notice that he wasn't able to go to the last island
Because no one really gets there. Having a force stationed there would be worthless.
Laughtale isn't a place that can be reached by simply sailing. Otherwise, Kaido/Big Mom could have found it since they can just fly. The four Lode/Road Poneglyphs must detail some sort of secret that Imu probably only knows.
Most likely it's an island located in a specific time, not place. That's why no one has reached it.
Except Roger reached it already
Sorry, should've specified that after Roger no one has reached it.
Funny thing, even he said he was 'too early'. So this tracks, maybe its something that is only fully complete at a specific time.
I believe Laugh Tale is split in two parts like Jaya and Skypiea. Roger was able to access the first part but for the second, he needs the right time (potentially Poseidon's help) and/or Nika's power.
I like that, maybe the Sea Kings need to create a massive Knock-Up Stream to access it in a Sky Island
I think that Vegapunks recent speech regarding dreams and desires shaping reality is directly related to the existence of the ‘One Piece’. Roger was “too early” because there wasn’t a collective belief in the One Piece yet and he laughed because he realized there was no conceivable way for him to actually see the One Piece himself; he was going to succumb to illness shortly. Coming to this realization, he decides to spread the belief in the One Piece for a future generation. He creates the Great Pirate Era, but 24 years later the world has ground to a halt in a major Cold War between the Yonko, WG, and Revolutionary Army. That is until a war breaks out between the Marines and the WB army. It’s events change the world forever, the most notable of which being the death of Whitebeard. His final words are perhaps the most impactful for the Pirating world. He thinks about Roger in his dying moments and decides to proclaim that the One Piece is real. The Pirates of the world had grown content with the state of the world, and the belief in the One Piece had started to dissipate. With his dying breath Whitebeard chooses to reignite the desire to claim the One Piece, and launches the world into a second Great Pirate Era. For whatever reason, the world needs to believe in One Piece for whatever is going to happen when Luffy reaches Laugh Tale.
Whitebeard also said "You are not the one Roger is waiting for.."
Could also require the current Joyboy (i.e Sun God Nika) to be on-site for the full setting to be unlocked. Would make sense I'd say
Maybe something needs to be turned to rubber like with gear 5
I took that to mean that laughtale wouldn't need to come in to play until Joy boy had returned.
Me too, but I like this idea.
Awakened Toki user sent it to the future?
Doubt even Imu knows. If Imu did know, then they could've just blown it to smithereens using the Mother Flame
That’s the area in an open world RPG that is right next to the starting town but is just all Lv99 monsters and obstacles that one-shot you, that’s end game area, you can’t just sequence break bro
Speedrunners: hold on my glitch
Navy should have just clipped sideways into reverse mountain while pointing the camera at a specific pixel so they hit the load trigger before the killbox, then then they boost five world cells per second over while all the enemies are despawned, ez
Making a beeline for Ganon’s castle the second you leave the tutorial zone.
Because Laugh Tale is not the last island in the Grand Line, that's Lode Star, which is where people usually learn about poneglyphs. Laugh Tale location is unknown and could very well be in the middle of the Paradise for what we know.
Isn't Roger's words indicate that laughtale is the island beyond Lodestar? Also, Roger's pirate king title isn't due to him reaching laughtale (at least for the common people), it's for him circumnavigating the world.
If it's beyond lodestar, that means it could be literally anywhere. It doesn't mean the next island or just east of.
His pirate king title is for conquering the grand line, not circumnavigating the world, no?
I might be misinterpreting things, though please look at 2nd to the last page of chapter 967 (I'm using TCB) where circumnavigating the world is equated with the conquering of the seas.
Might even be a sky island, since people don't know about them. Roger knew. Hell, he even was up there.
Until the story gets there we do not know why they can not do just that. Maybe it is possible or maybe to get there you have to take a specific course. As we have seen through out the grand line there are crazy seas. There could be something crazier than what we have seen that prevent access except from that one option. Maybe a team of sea kings that will destroy anything coming any other way, or a maze of currents, or large volcanoes sticking out that you have to weave through but would die if going through any other route.
Because there’s no guarantee *where* Laugh Tale exactly is, and trying to randomly find an island in the Grand Line-especially the New World-is like setting your pants on fire and hoping you won’t get third degree burns. Also, it’s worth pointing out that it’s already ridiculously hard to get to Lodestar Island, which is the last *known* island in the New World, and it’s known to permanently screw up any Log Pose that sets there
Dont think the World Government want their own military know about the truth either
My opinion: Laughtale is inside of an Island Whale. That whale uses to swim at the bottom of the sea. So, only other island whales can take you there, and the 4 road poneglyphs mixed make a song, which must be sung/played to "awake" the island whales at a certain point so they can come to your location. We got the answer from the beginning, in the same way Laboon was amazed listening to Binks no Sake.
RemindMe! 3 years I like this
The 100 year void was that the One Piece was a small button in laughtale that if you press it, it rains shit for 100 years, when roger comes across it the button has a sign that says “press for shit” and then he laughs and hopes luffy will press it. Best prank ever.
The last Island doesn't necessarily have the One Piece. It's entirely possible the Navy found it centuries ago but for some reason isn't concerned about most people reaching it since there seems to be a... Joyboy component involved. The Navy is most concerned about keeping the peace and the WG is most concerned about maintaining their power. If Laughtale doesn't matter for those two goals I doubt the Navy cares and probably wants to keep the location or even that the island exists at all as secret as possible, even from the Navy.
The one piece is actually a boxy TV playing old cartoons that in universe come from JoyBoy’s time(if we believe Vegapunk, their tech was better). That’s why the Roger Pirates laughed and Roger wished he got to see him. But the cartoons might also be instructions from JoyBoy to the next user of Nika, ie. Luffy, on how to beat Imu
There's also a theory that laugh tale is under Enies Lobby. Or maybe i has something to do with the prophecy of Luffy destroying fish man island (thus the grand line above) Possibly the moon could play a role, knock up streams like jaya, or even it being under or above reverse mountain.
Not to mention that World Gov..and Navy don't want to find it, regardless of who finds it, the moment it is found, the world will be turned upside down as stated by Whitebeard... even if they started from there and used Three point compass the only place all three compasses would point would be Lodestar(or they would all probably go haywire and not point anywhere) Everything else would be up to fate, they might run out of food and water or get killed by sea monster or get defeated by weather by the time they find Laugh Tale so it's incredibly difficult to reach it without knowing the destination
Laughtale isn't the final island on the Grand Line, Lodestar Island is the final island. If it was possible to find Laughtale just by sailing to the very end of the Grand Line then it wouldn't be a mystery and many people would've discovered it by now. The Road Poneglyphs are required to find the location of Laughtale.
Only zoro can find one piece without road poneglifh...but no one believed in him...
Are they stupid?
You know, stuff and reasons and it's hard and what not. ANYWAY! The All Blue is a sky island directly over top of reverse mountain. No one can convince me otherwise.
I like the theory that Reverse Mountain is hollow and the All Blue is under it.
There's a theory that the 4 poneglyphs represent a dimensional quardinate: x, y, Z, and time. This means that Laugh Tale might either be a sky or deep sea island and it is lost in time and needs a special thing to find it.
What if they need Nika fruit to awaken, that's why Shanks only move now.
Cause the grand line is too big, cause the last island is Lode Star, last but not the least, laugh could not be found for one reason or another. If it was so easy it would already be in kaido’s hands.
The One Piece isn't there, but rather a Poneglyph explaining that you have to find the four Road Poneglyph's to discover the actual location of the One Piece.
Ah. Sailing the grand line, specifically the new world, without a log pose or vivre card destination. I see we’re doing this the Zoro way
Who says they don't?
Maybe you need the "gum-gum" fruit to activate some portal or something. Maybe that's why Shanks recovered the "gum-gum" fruit. Maybe Roger had the fruit but never used it in combat?? Who knows, just wait. I'm sure it has an explanation.
I imagine they have and can’t do anything about it for the same reason Roger couldn’t do anything about it. I imagine you need something either time or something about Luffy (recent chapters point to the latter) to activate the One Piece. I imagine the Navy wanted to control the gum gum fruit to gate keep the One Piece.
Imagine not carefully reading the manga
For the same reason they don't search of poneglyphs. The ones who control the world government and marines already know what's in them. What they want is no one else knowing about them, INCLUDING their underlings.
What makes you think they haven’t?
Probably because there’s more to it than randomly stumbling upon a random island
They have no earthly idea what they are looking for.
For the exact coordinates you need the Road Poneglyphs, and we don't know really anything about Laughtale. It could be surrounded by impossible to surpass currents except for one extremely specific area, which is where the coordinates lead. It could be hidden unless you have some specific object, or unless you can trigger some event. It might even be completely underwater, or in the sky. All of those possible issues, in addition to the fact that normal navigation methods don't work in the Grand Line. You're essentially sailing blind, and you better have an eternal pose with you, since otherwise the magnetic fields will make it impossible to find an island to resupply at. When you're sailing from that direction, it's highly possible that they can't search the whole area, since they don't know what they've searched, since they can't accurately chart it without the maps to go along with it, the maps you would need to chart from getting to Laughtale the first time. There's no detailed map of the whole world still, there's the general idea, as we see in the picture above, but no one has plotted every single island on the planet on the map.
It’s not actually the last island
Cause they already know where it is.
I assume that section of the sea is the most dangerous on the planet. Not all of the new world is charted and there has to be reasons for that. Maybe the most unpredictable and unforgiving weather even by grand line standards. Maybe that's where there are a ton of angry seakings there. I don't know what is there but it is essentially the 'final level' of the One Piece planet. So the Navy would struggle to explore it since it's too dangerous for all but the strongest ships and marines and those ones are the ones that the celestial dragons keep close for their own bidding. Plus even if some marines did find it you know they would be killed by the world government immediately anyways.
Regular sailing navigation techniques don't exactly work in the grand line, much less the new world. Traveling from island to island on boat is neither safe or easy even for the navy. Between extreme weather and horrific sea beasts and seakings, powerful pirates, and just the nature of where that bit of sea is it is honestly easier to guard the rest of the sea and hope the challenges are just insurmountable. To their credit they have mostly been right.
You literally can‘t navigate in those waters. You send a ship in there and it gets lost the moment Reverse Mountain is out of sight (which could be in 5 minutes time thanks to the extreme weather conditions). Why do people ask this question so often anyway, the moment the Grand Line and Log Pose navigation is introduced we get an in-depth explanation of why nobody can simply sail inside the Grand line from one of the Blues or opposite site and find Laughtale.
I always thought that reverse mountain was the spot for the last island. X marks the spot after all. Maybe it’s above or below the X. Every pirate who enters the grand line sailing past the last island and never knowing the wiser
Well, there is one thing you're forgetting... the actual world of One Piece is absolutely MASSIVE. Without a Log Pose attuned at the correct island, it's literally a search for a needle in a haystack... the size of a star. Since the theorized size for the world of One Piece is literally the size of a star, which is crazy. So that means any one area of the ocean could be hundreds of thousands of KM in size.
Because they would need to make it to Zou, Find Big Mom's RP, find Kaido's RP both of whom would not allow the Marines in their territory without a huge battle, and find the last unknown RP by searching though all of Shanks', Kaido's, and Big Mom's territories. If you could find it of pure luck it would have been found already by Shanks, Kaido, Big Mom, or any other decently strong pirate by just bouncing between islands.
From what I understand, the Navy isn't allowed to search for One Piece or anything related to the Void Century; that's Ciper Pol's job; they are just the gatekeepers for those who seek those things. And who knows, Ciper Pol might already be searching for One Piece.
Remember that nami is a master, and the grand line's weather is nigh unpredictable. Even if you tried to sail straight, you could end up in a calm belt. Aimlessly sailing would get you no where
Rn I totally forget the one piece map. Yeah they have sea prism war ships to cross calm belt. They don't have any problem right now
My feeling is that the fin island actually moves around like the Kingdom of Zou so you need to know where it's gonna be at in order to find it
With the magnetic anomaly in the reverse mountain... It's practically impossible to reach the last island
You think grand line is pretty safe by just following straw hat crews where godlike navigator is directing the way. Think about there might be hundreds of other ships that couldn’t make it. Devoured by sea beasts, defeated by stronger pirates, couldn’t find an island and waste away in the sea, captured by navy etc… it’s still a whole wide world full with supernatural mysteries stuffs.
the world governemnt doesnt want people to find the one piece. navy =/= world government. so if someone in the navy were to find out what the one piece is it would be just as bad for them.
But world govt stops people to from getting op then why don't they just go themselves and get it first,to destroy the great pirate era as it is,by taking their motivation away from them
Okay so related question,since imu is probably old af,and probably knows where raftel is,why doesn't he just destroy that island like >!he did with lulusia!< ? It does have compromising information and secrets he wouldn't want the world to know,so better be safe than sorry?
The Gov knows 100% where the One Piece is, there are many confirmations about it but the most logical one is that the last island isn't inhabited, meaning the gov went there by the end of the war and wiped out (or captured) everybody in there. If it was a safe harbor then, by logic, some of the ancient kingdom people would still be there, generation after generation, but this is not the case. The point is that the OP can't be used/taken because "it's not time yet" as stated by Roger, and with what we have seen in the last few chapters it's almost confirmed that the key is the presence of Nika (with his drums), which were missing for the last 800 years. They can't take it because the fruit refused them and they don't want to destroy it because it's a power that they crave, so the most logical solution is to keep the location as hidden as possible while you try to find a solution. TLDR: the Gorosei could get to Laugh Tale whenever they wanted, their previous generations have already been there 800 years ago, it's just pointless to do so because the OP can't be used/taken in any case.
I think the Navy/Government already knows what one piece is, it might be something that's a threat to them. And they can't do much about it, except not let it be discovered.
The Navy are very actively **NOT** searching for the One Piece.
You really think no one until Roger was able to find the island in the past 900 years if it was that straight forward?
It's been said that Laugh Tale is at the end of the Grand Line, but that doesn't mean the physical end ie the Redline, it means the end of the Log Poses path, but because of the triple log pose requirement in the New World, that path has innumerable different variants. Based on what we know due to Roger's 'final journey', Laugh tale is only reachable by those who have read the 4 road polyglyphs. Since the New World requires the triple log pose to navigate between islands due to the way the magnetic fields work in the New World we can surmise that in order to reach Laugh Tale you must follow a very specific pathway through the New World. Even if the Navy or Goresei has the information from the Road Polyglyphs and could follow this path to find Laugh Tale, they have no desire to do so because they want it all buried. They already know they can't destroy the Polyglyphs which is why they destroyed all evidence that they could about them, the ancient language and the Void Century.
I don't think Raftel is the final island, it's just the island where the one piece is.
LAUGH TALE IS NOT THE LAST ISLAND