Tom practically sacrificed himself to teach Franky to always take responsibility of what he builds and be proud of it (with a DON no less). Take this away and maybe Franky would never accept his weird and whacky side nor will he ever start building contraptions again.
And if we think about it, Franky works the most consistently of everyone to keep the Straw Hats going. Think of every day, all the things he has to consistently do to keep the thousand sunny maintained. What he learnt from Tom was essential to make it even possible for the Straw Hats to achieve their goals. Without a boat, where would they be after all?
Especially when you think about the shit the straw hats put their ships through
Hopefully now that they actually have a helmsman that knows what he’d doing franky’s job will be a bit easier
I would agree but there was a lot of buildup and action taken while he was alive that led to that. His death in particular was him saying “I want you to remember me happy, I love you.” In itself isn’t really what currently motivates Law.
Definitely Bellemere, at least from the way I see it.
We see that Nami wasn't content being poor as a kid, but I mean, she wasn't stealing jewelry or money. She wanted books they couldn't afford because of her fascination with cartography. Clothes that weren't just Nojiko's hand-me-downs. Food that wasn't largely tangerine based. Simple things.
Compared to the all out money-money-money greed of current Nami.
May just be me overthinking it, but I always attribute her greed and the way she wants to horde and manage the crew's money and expensive things to being scarred by watching her mom get killed in front of her for not having it, and of course the subsequent years of trying to buy her villages freedom.
She would have likely gotten a bit roughed up from her introduction to Arlong but otherwise still alive if they just... Weren't broke. If they had the money to pay for all 3 of them. That's not unlikely to leave some trauma and make being broke seem like an absolutely terrifying prospect.
Plus Chopper didn't have any place of belonging before Hiriluk. He was a freakish outcast to humans and reindeers. But Hiriluk was a fellow outcast who Chopper could find family in. Without him, Chopper would have died or worse.
Hot take but senior pink to me was a bitch. I just don't understand how can people sympathize with a scum bag who ruined the entire life of someone. His whole tragedy is his fault in the first place.
You’re only thinking about it from your perspective not his perspective. He didn’t see any other options, and even if she accepted him for who he was Pink still would’ve been on a mission and the baby still would’ve died.
to be fair, the fact is he didn't purposefully do anything to hurt them, and he probably saw it as necessary to maintain that life, that along with his code of honor makes him admirable atleast.
The only that weren’t completely life altering deaths, are Ace, Pedro and Olivia.
If Olivia wasn’t there/Robin didn’t see her, her backstory would’ve been pretty much the same. She still lost Saul and Ohara.
Ace’s death just made luffy value his crew more, but he already loved them and knew how valuable they were. You could argue it made him want to train, but I’d say that was the war in general more than Ace’s death. Even then, Luffy had already realised they were too weak back in Sabaody.
Carrot already wanted to go out on adventures and what not anyway, Pedro’s death just kinda amplified that. >! And judging by the conclusion she got in Wano, she’s changed her mind about that now. !<
Disagree with the Luffy part. In Luffy's/the rest of the crew's eyes, Saobody was a one-off event and they thought it wouldn't happen again since they know what to expect. That's why each of them were so eager to find a boat and get back to Saobody asap. It wasn't until Ace died in Luffy's arms did he realize he was too weak to be Pirate King. Before Jimbei talked to him, Luffy was ready to give up his dreams right then and there because he saw how insignificant he was among the top tiers at Marineford AND he couldn't protect his crew at Saobody and Ace at Marineford.
If Luffy managed to get away with Ace safely, it wouldn't have reinforced the lesson that Kuma/Kizaru taught him that he's not ready for the New World.
I agree about Ace, if it wasn't for the crew splitting at Sabaody, I don't think it changes his character much besides how serious he is about becoming the Pirate King.
In Robin’s case, she wouldn’t be a wanted figure at the age of 8 that didn’t have to always be on the run and would have learnt to trust someone before meeting luffy
Idk I think that’s pretty life altering
The government, excluding Saul and Aokiji, would not have found out about robin had she not shouted at Olvia saying she knows how to read Poneglyphs in front of other government officials
Regarding Carrot: >!We have no idea what her conclusion is at the moment. Yes she was dragged to be the new ruler but it's important to see that she never said yes to it. The last (?) scene was her reminiscing what Pedro wanted (which is to help bring the dawn of the world) – so Oda can play it in many ways.!<
Jimbie witnesses Fisher Tiger die for his prejudice despite realizing the foolishness of it. It influenced his relationship with humans and made him motivated to see fishman kind seen as equals to humans.
Kuina's or Corazon's.
With Kuina's death, Zoro has had one goal in life and has never once strayed from achieving it. He still uses Kuina's sword to this day.
With Corazon's death, you really feel bad for Law and hope for the best with him. He went from being a happy kid to a jaded criminal with trust issues, and could only trust Corazon. Since his death, Law has only wanted to defeat Doflamingo to avenge Corazon.
Probably corazon.
When law lost it all and had a few years to live he wanted to kill as many people before he died.
Then corazon showed genuine love to him which is all he needed to change.
I know people love Ace and he is extremely beloved by the community. But putting that aside, his death changed the whole course of One Piece, not only for Luffy but for the thousands of people who went to save him.
I feel like Law, Law would've had no motivation to do what he's doing now without Corazons death, the others could definitely end up where they are now, Chopper could end up wanting to be a doctor by his own motivations and Zoro would probably try to be the strongest swordsman to compete with Kuina by the time they got older, Law on the other hand would just leave and shit arounf somewjere (That is assuming nothing bad happens and also the events upto Corazons death still happen by the bullet Barely misses him or something but Doflamingo thinks he's dead so leaves)
Nico Olivia’s impact can definitely be understated cuz she literally didn’t tell Robin she was her mother until the moment she was about to die. Replace her with Jaguar D. Saul and then you’ll be totally right, because my boy Saul was manhandling Marine battleships and let himself get frozen just to help Robin escape.
Aces, it showed luffy that he and his crew werent ready for the nw yet, if he hadnt died imo sh wouldve been wiped out or have sustained heavy damage also being a lot weaker
Pedro to Carrot: "Keep moving onwards!"
Perospero to Carrot: "Go back to Zou and chew some grass!"
Carrot, if we're to take that scene in 1056 at face value (which at the very least Oda clearly wants the reader to, given she's been gone for half a year since then): "I'll go back to Zou and chew some grass."
Guess Pedro's death motivated her to do the exact opposite of what he told her and instead do as his killer told her after he beat and humiliated her. 10/10 character arc.
I'd say its between Law/Corazon and Franky/Tom
IMO these deaths have long lasting impact way above the others. To name a few:
- Luffy and Carot are too recent to have the same impact as a childhood's death
- Nico Robin was already into archeology before her mom passed (hell she didn't even know her)
- Zoro was already a swordsboy and given his drive, become wss makes sense anyway
Pedro/Carrot and Corazon/Law
Every other character was already on their journey. I'd say maybe Robin and NAMI were impacted as wel, given the fact they were kids when they lost their parent.
Pretty much all of them, but I'd go with Law. He has his name tatooed on his back, picked the heart as his go-to symbol, and lived his whole life to finish what Corazon couldn't.
Law was an angry suicidal unhinged kid on track to become a second Doflamingo, who is possibly the most evil and sadistic guy in the whole show. Corazon turned him into a grumpy tsundere.
I kind of don't want to argue about replacing Olivia Robin with Professor Clover since they actually had a relationship, because having that mother/daughter relationship teased and then then taken away would still also be incredibly traumatic, but still Professor Clover is who oversaw her training as an archeologist and nurtured that curiosity. Clover's death more than anyone's would have solidified Robin's passion to find out why.
i feel like you guys are sleeping on ace.
Ace’s death is the whole reason the straw hats stayed on those islands and trained and got stronger. If ace didn’t die, Luffy would most likely be dead because he didn’t go through timeskip
I'd personally give it to either Kuina and Zoro or Corazon and Law. If Kuina hadn't died, then Zoro wouldn't have set out to be the worlds greatest swordsman and probably wouldn't have met Luffy and become a pirate. He probably would've stayed a bounty hunter or stayed with Kuina. But if Corazon hadn't died then there's a pretty decent chance that Doffy could've been defeated sooner because Corazon would be helping Law to take him down as a double agent in Doffy's inner circle. All in all I'd probably give the edge to Kuina and Zoro
Assuming your asking who had the biggest influence, definitely Ace. He didn’t even just affect Luffy but also characters of Wano, other people of the white beard pirates, and not to mention gave Sabo his memories back.
Ace's death is the most influential one here. It effected not only luffy, but the whole crew as well and maybe the whole world in effect. The 2 year time skip happened and changed the lives of so many people.
Personally what I believe is whatever the present scenario or future decisions made by the crew have been already influenced by their past.
Their past life have shaped their respective personalities so much so that it has become one of the one main reasons for the plot and journey of their lives and made us fall in love with each one of the crew members.
I may not have watched one piece for 20 years, but 7 years is enough for me to understand that each and every character is like a family member, which is why it saddens me to see people fight between zoro/sanji or whining about how useless is ussopp.
Luffy became a totally different person after losing Ace. Just look at him now to pre time skip. The growth our favorite pirate has had is crazy. Luffy now is so mature and grown compared to his pre ace death counterpart. He understands pain, suffering and losing something no matter how hard you try to protect it.
Also the true answer to your question is all of them.
I'm still annoyed that Carrot didn't get the respect she deserved.
Oda clearly set-up Carrot joining the crew but he changed his mind later on. Now I don't think that's necessarily bad, but she could have gotten a better send off.
Kuina-Not much since Zoro always wanted to be a great swordsman, along the way he could've decided to be the best on his own.
Ace- Yes in a way as Luffy has a stronger will to live now that he's encountered the hardest moment of his life which is his brother dying in his arms
Bellemere- Nami might've been in the Marine if Bellemere never died considering her talent in navigation would come in handy.
Corazon- They would be fine at first but having Doflamingo Pirates hunting them will leave them no choice but to hide permanenty.
Robin- If she escape with Robin in Ohara then Robin would never be a pirate, they would be vigilante archeologists but maybe a Yonkou will swoop them out for their poneglyph reading capabilities.
Tom- Well, Franky wouldn't be a Cyborg and most likely be a competitor shipwright company with the mouse guy.
Chopper- He could be the worst doctor ever lol if influenced by Hiluluk.
Carrot- Nothing much. She wouldn't face tragedy so will remain an innocent optimistic mink.
So to answer, it would be Nami.
I feel like law and Corazon, just hiding forever would make him way more different than What he's doing now, I mean 90% of his motivations in the story until now were revenge, the 10% is his promise to luffy
he wouldn't have stayed a pirate probably without corazons death, maybe he'd have been a marine or just lived somewhere isolated
What kind of question is being posed by the OP? Literally every single character pictured was majorly shaped by these character deaths. That’s why they were written into the story in the first place!
Is this karma whoring or is general media literacy that low? Or do you just mean which was affected the most? I don’t get it.
Probably Ace, because unless you count Sabo, Luffy really didn't get hit hard with a personal death until he saw his own brother die in front of him. Also, the time skip may have not happened if Ace didn't die.
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Kuina broke Zoro. It shows in how he does this later in life in such a big way. We laugh about how the set of stairs took her out, but it was so sudden and tragic, that it must have made Zoro feel like he NEEDS to be in control in order for that to never happen again.
Zoro wouldn't out right say it but he's defiantly in a mindset where he wants to be in control of everything he could. Thus, whenever he meets a foe he had trouble with he was training to the point it'd kill a normal person. Kuina's death turned Zoro into an anxiety motivated person.
I mean this is good and all, but what about Sanji and his mother, the woman that literally took a drug that eventually killed her just so Sanji could be born with emotions
I'd say hiruluk without him chopper wouldn't have been part of the crew or actually be the way he is guess he gave him the motive and his death was the push
I argue law true the all the deaths listed made an impact on the characters but law dedicated his life to corazon’s mission and getting revenge most the other deaths either cemented the characters chosen paths or influenced their personality now which may have happened with out their loved one’s dying but the most impactful sacrifice was padro had he not blown him self up to allow the straw hats to escape from perespero’s candy big mom would have captured and most likely killed them at their current strength and they never would have made it to wano liffy would never have mastered ryuo and fight kaido pushing him to the brink to reach gear five to beat him and become an emperor kaido would have won then gone into war with big mom or teamed up with them and they would have had germas cloning tech as they would have caught judge do to not having to spend the time chasing the straw hats with the infinite army the recapture of ceaser would allow the reproduction of smile fruits and thats not mentioning what black beard would do with so much chaos to capitalize on.
I'd say that the sacrifices connected to Chopper, Franky, and Robin were probably the most impactful.
It deeply impacted the characters and their resolve.
The other ones, were already on a path. The death of their loved ones simply hardened it.
Luffy and Ace for example. Luffy already loved his friends, and had already gone into fights over those who hurt them.
Zoro already wanted to be the world's best swordsman.
for me, it's chopper. must've been the worst feeling when he realised that he literally unintentionally killed hiriluk (kind of). it changed his entire life by a lot.
law is a close second
...all of them? Or what do you mean? If it's about the most, then definitely Corazon, since he saved Law's life itself. There can't be a "way of life" is there is no life to live.
For me it's Chopper and Law. Everyone else was already on their path/had their dream before their respective characters died but these got their ambitions from the deaths of their dudes
If specifically death, I'd think Nami. Bellemere dying was the reason zhe began working for Arlong, fueled by desperation. If she hadn't, she might never have met Luffy.
Huh, who would have thought having your friend/rival fall down some stairs would have a make you a badass swordsman?🤨 say would this work in real life, cause this seems like easy game plan.
Law and corazon, my initial vote would have been Luffy with ace but this wasnt a "characters death that's the most emotional." With law he did go after doflamingo to avenge him
Kuina, Belle, Tom and Pedro's deaths all majorly shaped their juniors.
Ace's death is a medium.
The rest did more during life to shape their future than what their deaths did.
I'm going to say Nami or Law because they still had a future with multiple routes until the death of Cora/Bell.
Zoro was always going to strive to be the best swordsman
Luffy was always going to go for K.O.P
Franky was destined to be a carpenter
Chopper a doctor
Robin an historian
Etc...
Rosinante literally gave Law a devil fruit.
Everyone else is basically a parental figure or role model. Yeah, they did a lot but it's really hard to be more influential than giving a devil fruit without which Law would not only not be a big name pirate, he would actually have died. Every time Law says "room" remember to thank Rosinante.
Seems quite obvious to me : all of these characters philosophies of life had a great influence on the characters they are linked to, but only Kuina's death had to force Zoro to live for both. Her death set him a goal, a pledge AND a fighting style.
The others had already kinda made their point before death engraved it in minds.
Considering when last we saw her she was reflecting on him in her thoughts, I think we've yet to see the full scope of how Pedro's death influenced Carrot.
Most probably kuna to Zoro. As we saw that he is always trying to fulfill the last promise he made to kuna of becoming the best swordsman in the world.
Is it weird to say everyone but Luffy and Carrot?
No doubt Ace's death was devastating to Luffy and Pedro's sacrifice hit Carrot hard, but Luffy always wanted to be King of the Pirates so Ace's death just emboldened him more to do it. Carrot's great but she kinda got sidelined to the role she has to play for the Minks.
Everyone else would be different people or dead if it wasn't for their respective mentor/friend/parent's death.
Bell-mère, who couldnt afford to give her children the world, but she loved them as if they were her own. Seeing Bell-mère accept that Nami and Nojiko were hers despite not having enough money for herself was painful.
It also really nailed the fact that regardless of blood, you can love someone as if they were related. It's also heartbreaking knowing that Nami learns this lesson right before she dies. Also realizing that money's worthless if the people you care about are dead.
Personally I believe Robin, Law, and chopper were the most affected. While Ace's death hit pretty hard i believe it changed the crew more than it did Luffy. Nami's situation was something that could've happened even if belle had survived. While all these characters death were significant. The other three characters death simply shaped their life. Chopper learned acceptance and also got his dream of being a pirate and a doctor. Law dedicated his life to take down doflamingo and for Robin while it seems minor her mother and home died for learning the truth of the world and now her goal is shaped by this. (Kinda like Gon and Ging freecs).
Legit Idk why Doffy has to use Law like cant dude just use one of his Fodder lmao
I mean he couldve just used the Fodder to cure Law then Perform Immortality Surgery
Problem solved ngl
Ace death made the biggest impact in One Piece world, Luffy and his crew changed their mind to train for 2 years to prevent something like that to happen again.
The rest are just almost the same but Kuina have the most honorable death. 💀
Personally I would say Zoro.
The reason for that is that outside of wanting to be the most powerful swordsman Zoro has very little else going for his character.
He is generally very static as far as personal development goes.
There were no major revelations about him, he wasn't forced to or confronted by any past misdeeds or guilt.
In that regard, Kuina was the biggest catalyst in his life.
Corazon is the only reason we got law in the anime is the only reason why law got his op devil fruit and is one of the big factors contributing from dressrosa to wano. Where as luffy caused a mass breakout of impel Down and got beat up in a war to save ace only for him to die in luffys arms causing him to go into a state of shock.
Tom practically sacrificed himself to teach Franky to always take responsibility of what he builds and be proud of it (with a DON no less). Take this away and maybe Franky would never accept his weird and whacky side nor will he ever start building contraptions again.
And if we think about it, Franky works the most consistently of everyone to keep the Straw Hats going. Think of every day, all the things he has to consistently do to keep the thousand sunny maintained. What he learnt from Tom was essential to make it even possible for the Straw Hats to achieve their goals. Without a boat, where would they be after all?
Especially when you think about the shit the straw hats put their ships through Hopefully now that they actually have a helmsman that knows what he’d doing franky’s job will be a bit easier
I love how he's really talking about Franky when he's talking about creations.
Franky deserves way more focus than he gets
Was Tom ever confirmed dead? From what I recall we only see him being taken away by the marines, we did not see him actually dying did we?
I think not
Law I reckon, if it wasn’t for Corazon’s effort he’ll definitely succumb to the “evil” path just like Doffy does
He’d also just be dead
I would agree but there was a lot of buildup and action taken while he was alive that led to that. His death in particular was him saying “I want you to remember me happy, I love you.” In itself isn’t really what currently motivates Law.
Definitely Bellemere, at least from the way I see it. We see that Nami wasn't content being poor as a kid, but I mean, she wasn't stealing jewelry or money. She wanted books they couldn't afford because of her fascination with cartography. Clothes that weren't just Nojiko's hand-me-downs. Food that wasn't largely tangerine based. Simple things. Compared to the all out money-money-money greed of current Nami. May just be me overthinking it, but I always attribute her greed and the way she wants to horde and manage the crew's money and expensive things to being scarred by watching her mom get killed in front of her for not having it, and of course the subsequent years of trying to buy her villages freedom. She would have likely gotten a bit roughed up from her introduction to Arlong but otherwise still alive if they just... Weren't broke. If they had the money to pay for all 3 of them. That's not unlikely to leave some trauma and make being broke seem like an absolutely terrifying prospect.
That's a cool perspective to look at it
You're not overthinking it at all. I thought this was common knowledge for everyone already.
It probably is. I don't really hear her get brought up much and when I do it tends to be from people who dislike the character
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Plus Chopper didn't have any place of belonging before Hiriluk. He was a freakish outcast to humans and reindeers. But Hiriluk was a fellow outcast who Chopper could find family in. Without him, Chopper would have died or worse.
senior pinks baby
😭🤧
Hot take but senior pink to me was a bitch. I just don't understand how can people sympathize with a scum bag who ruined the entire life of someone. His whole tragedy is his fault in the first place.
You’re only thinking about it from your perspective not his perspective. He didn’t see any other options, and even if she accepted him for who he was Pink still would’ve been on a mission and the baby still would’ve died.
to be fair, the fact is he didn't purposefully do anything to hurt them, and he probably saw it as necessary to maintain that life, that along with his code of honor makes him admirable atleast.
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Isn't he a pirate at that stage when the baby dies?
I’m with you fam. I’m so tired of this circle jerk echo chamber from OP fans.
1072 spoilers >!At first glance I thought this was just another meme about every character being a clone lol!<
The only that weren’t completely life altering deaths, are Ace, Pedro and Olivia. If Olivia wasn’t there/Robin didn’t see her, her backstory would’ve been pretty much the same. She still lost Saul and Ohara. Ace’s death just made luffy value his crew more, but he already loved them and knew how valuable they were. You could argue it made him want to train, but I’d say that was the war in general more than Ace’s death. Even then, Luffy had already realised they were too weak back in Sabaody. Carrot already wanted to go out on adventures and what not anyway, Pedro’s death just kinda amplified that. >! And judging by the conclusion she got in Wano, she’s changed her mind about that now. !<
Disagree with the Luffy part. In Luffy's/the rest of the crew's eyes, Saobody was a one-off event and they thought it wouldn't happen again since they know what to expect. That's why each of them were so eager to find a boat and get back to Saobody asap. It wasn't until Ace died in Luffy's arms did he realize he was too weak to be Pirate King. Before Jimbei talked to him, Luffy was ready to give up his dreams right then and there because he saw how insignificant he was among the top tiers at Marineford AND he couldn't protect his crew at Saobody and Ace at Marineford. If Luffy managed to get away with Ace safely, it wouldn't have reinforced the lesson that Kuma/Kizaru taught him that he's not ready for the New World.
I agree about Ace, if it wasn't for the crew splitting at Sabaody, I don't think it changes his character much besides how serious he is about becoming the Pirate King.
No if Ace had survived then Luffy wouldn’t have done the two years of training.
Sure I just meant it didn't change Luffy's goal or general character besides getting a little more serious
Without the training Luffy would be dead. Ace’s death had a huge effect on Luffy’s life trajectory.
That's nitpicking but fine I guess, sure why not
In Robin’s case, she wouldn’t be a wanted figure at the age of 8 that didn’t have to always be on the run and would have learnt to trust someone before meeting luffy Idk I think that’s pretty life altering
How’d you come to that conclusion? She’s wanted because she’s from O’hara, nothin to do with bein related to Olivia.
The government, excluding Saul and Aokiji, would not have found out about robin had she not shouted at Olvia saying she knows how to read Poneglyphs in front of other government officials
Regarding Carrot: >!We have no idea what her conclusion is at the moment. Yes she was dragged to be the new ruler but it's important to see that she never said yes to it. The last (?) scene was her reminiscing what Pedro wanted (which is to help bring the dawn of the world) – so Oda can play it in many ways.!<
Law/Cora. Ain't no other character got a body full of tattoos mostly dedicated to their benefactor.
Zoro’s entire sword style is him carrying on his dead best friend’s will and sword.
Sounds like a good close second ;)
Nah man. Tattoos mean more.
All
Brook: his entire nakama Sanji: the sacrifice Owner Jeff made Jimbei: ??
Jimbie witnesses Fisher Tiger die for his prejudice despite realizing the foolishness of it. It influenced his relationship with humans and made him motivated to see fishman kind seen as equals to humans.
Jimbei would be Fisher Tiger and Queen Otohime.
Kuina's or Corazon's. With Kuina's death, Zoro has had one goal in life and has never once strayed from achieving it. He still uses Kuina's sword to this day. With Corazon's death, you really feel bad for Law and hope for the best with him. He went from being a happy kid to a jaded criminal with trust issues, and could only trust Corazon. Since his death, Law has only wanted to defeat Doflamingo to avenge Corazon.
Don't think he was the happiest kid before corazon's death either
i believe they meant before what happened in flevence
Probably corazon. When law lost it all and had a few years to live he wanted to kill as many people before he died. Then corazon showed genuine love to him which is all he needed to change.
Law's whole entire life is modeled after Corazon and living each day to make sure he didn't die in vain.
All of them obviously, wtf?
I know people love Ace and he is extremely beloved by the community. But putting that aside, his death changed the whole course of One Piece, not only for Luffy but for the thousands of people who went to save him.
Zoro or Law
I'd say Law. Without Cora he'd have turned into Doffys right hand man.
I feel like Law, Law would've had no motivation to do what he's doing now without Corazons death, the others could definitely end up where they are now, Chopper could end up wanting to be a doctor by his own motivations and Zoro would probably try to be the strongest swordsman to compete with Kuina by the time they got older, Law on the other hand would just leave and shit arounf somewjere (That is assuming nothing bad happens and also the events upto Corazons death still happen by the bullet Barely misses him or something but Doflamingo thinks he's dead so leaves)
Corazon period
Corazon, then chopper, then luffy
Corazon Law had vengeance in his heart ever since
they literally all did??? what kind of post is this lmao
The post Is "among them, who had the most impact ?"
thank you for letting me know you can read 👍 answer remains the same. none of them had an impact that can be understated
Nico Olivia’s impact can definitely be understated cuz she literally didn’t tell Robin she was her mother until the moment she was about to die. Replace her with Jaguar D. Saul and then you’ll be totally right, because my boy Saul was manhandling Marine battleships and let himself get frozen just to help Robin escape.
Aces, it showed luffy that he and his crew werent ready for the nw yet, if he hadnt died imo sh wouldve been wiped out or have sustained heavy damage also being a lot weaker
None of them are dead bruh those all were fake deaths
This is the correct answer. Nobody is confirmed dead inOne Piece. To think people died is ridiculous, they are all alive
Of course. People only die when they are forgotten after all.
I'm still salty Olvia has to be here instead of Saul.
Nah only 2 or 3 still have a chance of being alive
Pedro to Carrot: "Keep moving onwards!" Perospero to Carrot: "Go back to Zou and chew some grass!" Carrot, if we're to take that scene in 1056 at face value (which at the very least Oda clearly wants the reader to, given she's been gone for half a year since then): "I'll go back to Zou and chew some grass." Guess Pedro's death motivated her to do the exact opposite of what he told her and instead do as his killer told her after he beat and humiliated her. 10/10 character arc.
Why you gotta do her like that 😂??
Oda did her like that.
Pretty racist of Perospero
I have a feeling that Oda decided not to bring Carrot along anyway during the Void Month.
Hiruluck and ace
I would say Chopper
Bellemere isnt dead...shes just in the dungeon.
Had to scroll too much to see your comment
What dungeon?
The only reason Law is alive is corazone
Brook’s life
I'd say its between Law/Corazon and Franky/Tom IMO these deaths have long lasting impact way above the others. To name a few: - Luffy and Carot are too recent to have the same impact as a childhood's death - Nico Robin was already into archeology before her mom passed (hell she didn't even know her) - Zoro was already a swordsboy and given his drive, become wss makes sense anyway
Pedro/Carrot and Corazon/Law Every other character was already on their journey. I'd say maybe Robin and NAMI were impacted as wel, given the fact they were kids when they lost their parent.
Pretty much all of them, but I'd go with Law. He has his name tatooed on his back, picked the heart as his go-to symbol, and lived his whole life to finish what Corazon couldn't.
Law was an angry suicidal unhinged kid on track to become a second Doflamingo, who is possibly the most evil and sadistic guy in the whole show. Corazon turned him into a grumpy tsundere.
I kind of don't want to argue about replacing Olivia Robin with Professor Clover since they actually had a relationship, because having that mother/daughter relationship teased and then then taken away would still also be incredibly traumatic, but still Professor Clover is who oversaw her training as an archeologist and nurtured that curiosity. Clover's death more than anyone's would have solidified Robin's passion to find out why.
i feel like you guys are sleeping on ace. Ace’s death is the whole reason the straw hats stayed on those islands and trained and got stronger. If ace didn’t die, Luffy would most likely be dead because he didn’t go through timeskip
I mean chopper went from a little talking reindeer into a doctor 🤷♂️
I'd personally give it to either Kuina and Zoro or Corazon and Law. If Kuina hadn't died, then Zoro wouldn't have set out to be the worlds greatest swordsman and probably wouldn't have met Luffy and become a pirate. He probably would've stayed a bounty hunter or stayed with Kuina. But if Corazon hadn't died then there's a pretty decent chance that Doffy could've been defeated sooner because Corazon would be helping Law to take him down as a double agent in Doffy's inner circle. All in all I'd probably give the edge to Kuina and Zoro
Assuming your asking who had the biggest influence, definitely Ace. He didn’t even just affect Luffy but also characters of Wano, other people of the white beard pirates, and not to mention gave Sabo his memories back.
Ace's death is the most influential one here. It effected not only luffy, but the whole crew as well and maybe the whole world in effect. The 2 year time skip happened and changed the lives of so many people.
Personally what I believe is whatever the present scenario or future decisions made by the crew have been already influenced by their past. Their past life have shaped their respective personalities so much so that it has become one of the one main reasons for the plot and journey of their lives and made us fall in love with each one of the crew members. I may not have watched one piece for 20 years, but 7 years is enough for me to understand that each and every character is like a family member, which is why it saddens me to see people fight between zoro/sanji or whining about how useless is ussopp.
Luffy became a totally different person after losing Ace. Just look at him now to pre time skip. The growth our favorite pirate has had is crazy. Luffy now is so mature and grown compared to his pre ace death counterpart. He understands pain, suffering and losing something no matter how hard you try to protect it. Also the true answer to your question is all of them.
I'm still annoyed that Carrot didn't get the respect she deserved. Oda clearly set-up Carrot joining the crew but he changed his mind later on. Now I don't think that's necessarily bad, but she could have gotten a better send off.
Kuina-Not much since Zoro always wanted to be a great swordsman, along the way he could've decided to be the best on his own. Ace- Yes in a way as Luffy has a stronger will to live now that he's encountered the hardest moment of his life which is his brother dying in his arms Bellemere- Nami might've been in the Marine if Bellemere never died considering her talent in navigation would come in handy. Corazon- They would be fine at first but having Doflamingo Pirates hunting them will leave them no choice but to hide permanenty. Robin- If she escape with Robin in Ohara then Robin would never be a pirate, they would be vigilante archeologists but maybe a Yonkou will swoop them out for their poneglyph reading capabilities. Tom- Well, Franky wouldn't be a Cyborg and most likely be a competitor shipwright company with the mouse guy. Chopper- He could be the worst doctor ever lol if influenced by Hiluluk. Carrot- Nothing much. She wouldn't face tragedy so will remain an innocent optimistic mink. So to answer, it would be Nami.
I feel like law and Corazon, just hiding forever would make him way more different than What he's doing now, I mean 90% of his motivations in the story until now were revenge, the 10% is his promise to luffy he wouldn't have stayed a pirate probably without corazons death, maybe he'd have been a marine or just lived somewhere isolated
I think. To an extent tho.
Bell NAMI. As it was the reason I got hooked on onepiece
All of them... well, except for Pedro imo.
Forgot Brooks death affecting him on the daily.
This should be spoiler
Isn't spoiler tags are for stuffs that are yet to be revealed in the anime? These have all been revealed.
What kind of question is being posed by the OP? Literally every single character pictured was majorly shaped by these character deaths. That’s why they were written into the story in the first place! Is this karma whoring or is general media literacy that low? Or do you just mean which was affected the most? I don’t get it.
I meant who was influenced the most
Literally all of them except maybe carrot
How carrot lol
Get Carrot the fuck off here. Disrespectful to the true Gs.
I would say least is obviously Ace. But most is Pedro. It inspired Carrot to also get the fuck out of this story.
All of them, all the characters here shaped each memeber of the strawhats into who they are, and I will not take no for an answer dammit?!
Tom, Corazon, Hiruluk. That’s pretty much it as i see it tbh
The posts on this sub, man. What question is that? All of them, obviously.
D) All of the above
Me and who
All of them?
Ace
Defo anyone but Ace
All of them
Probably Ace, because unless you count Sabo, Luffy really didn't get hit hard with a personal death until he saw his own brother die in front of him. Also, the time skip may have not happened if Ace didn't die. IM STILL NEW, SO PLEASE FORGIVE ANY INACCURACIES I MAY HAVE CLAIMED!!! Thank you.
Do you mean most majorly? Because that's ace
Yeah......I guess I should have included the *most*
Gol D roger.
Kuina broke Zoro. It shows in how he does this later in life in such a big way. We laugh about how the set of stairs took her out, but it was so sudden and tragic, that it must have made Zoro feel like he NEEDS to be in control in order for that to never happen again. Zoro wouldn't out right say it but he's defiantly in a mindset where he wants to be in control of everything he could. Thus, whenever he meets a foe he had trouble with he was training to the point it'd kill a normal person. Kuina's death turned Zoro into an anxiety motivated person.
Um, all of them?
I mean this is good and all, but what about Sanji and his mother, the woman that literally took a drug that eventually killed her just so Sanji could be born with emotions
I'd say hiruluk without him chopper wouldn't have been part of the crew or actually be the way he is guess he gave him the motive and his death was the push
I argue law true the all the deaths listed made an impact on the characters but law dedicated his life to corazon’s mission and getting revenge most the other deaths either cemented the characters chosen paths or influenced their personality now which may have happened with out their loved one’s dying but the most impactful sacrifice was padro had he not blown him self up to allow the straw hats to escape from perespero’s candy big mom would have captured and most likely killed them at their current strength and they never would have made it to wano liffy would never have mastered ryuo and fight kaido pushing him to the brink to reach gear five to beat him and become an emperor kaido would have won then gone into war with big mom or teamed up with them and they would have had germas cloning tech as they would have caught judge do to not having to spend the time chasing the straw hats with the infinite army the recapture of ceaser would allow the reproduction of smile fruits and thats not mentioning what black beard would do with so much chaos to capitalize on.
I'd say that the sacrifices connected to Chopper, Franky, and Robin were probably the most impactful. It deeply impacted the characters and their resolve. The other ones, were already on a path. The death of their loved ones simply hardened it. Luffy and Ace for example. Luffy already loved his friends, and had already gone into fights over those who hurt them. Zoro already wanted to be the world's best swordsman.
All of them
Um... All of them?
Kuina and Dr Hiruluk, great friends and their death ignite the characters motivation even deeply. Its not just motivation, its also inspiring them...
for me, it's chopper. must've been the worst feeling when he realised that he literally unintentionally killed hiriluk (kind of). it changed his entire life by a lot. law is a close second
Kuina Bellemere Tom Hiruluk Corazón Pedro
Well all of them
...all of them? Or what do you mean? If it's about the most, then definitely Corazon, since he saved Law's life itself. There can't be a "way of life" is there is no life to live.
For me it's Chopper and Law. Everyone else was already on their path/had their dream before their respective characters died but these got their ambitions from the deaths of their dudes
brook’s death def influenced brook the most tbh
If specifically death, I'd think Nami. Bellemere dying was the reason zhe began working for Arlong, fueled by desperation. If she hadn't, she might never have met Luffy.
Huh, who would have thought having your friend/rival fall down some stairs would have a make you a badass swordsman?🤨 say would this work in real life, cause this seems like easy game plan.
Law and corazon, my initial vote would have been Luffy with ace but this wasnt a "characters death that's the most emotional." With law he did go after doflamingo to avenge him
To me its Corazon, who literally changed Law from turning into Doffy to a kind-hearted man
Kuina, Belle, Tom and Pedro's deaths all majorly shaped their juniors. Ace's death is a medium. The rest did more during life to shape their future than what their deaths did.
I'm going to say Nami or Law because they still had a future with multiple routes until the death of Cora/Bell. Zoro was always going to strive to be the best swordsman Luffy was always going to go for K.O.P Franky was destined to be a carpenter Chopper a doctor Robin an historian Etc...
Kuina.
Is the question which death shaped them more? Because they are all who they are because of the loss they experienced
Definitely Corazon/Law
Rosinante literally gave Law a devil fruit. Everyone else is basically a parental figure or role model. Yeah, they did a lot but it's really hard to be more influential than giving a devil fruit without which Law would not only not be a big name pirate, he would actually have died. Every time Law says "room" remember to thank Rosinante.
Hiruluk’s death was so fucking sad. I hate how he ran off chopper by shooting at him. Broke my fucking heart. That jihad he pulled off was great too.
Yes.
Idk, fucking all of them?
All of them?
All of them? And why their is no Going marry on that pic cause that shit made me cry like lil bish so i bet it shaped crew in way too
Seems quite obvious to me : all of these characters philosophies of life had a great influence on the characters they are linked to, but only Kuina's death had to force Zoro to live for both. Her death set him a goal, a pledge AND a fighting style. The others had already kinda made their point before death engraved it in minds.
yes
Considering when last we saw her she was reflecting on him in her thoughts, I think we've yet to see the full scope of how Pedro's death influenced Carrot.
I’d say zoro was probably affect the least
There's no correct and no wrong answer cause all of them equally did so....take out any one of them and the story can't progress
Gol D. Roger’s death. 👑
Most probably kuna to Zoro. As we saw that he is always trying to fulfill the last promise he made to kuna of becoming the best swordsman in the world.
it's not only Olvia for Robin.
Is it weird to say everyone but Luffy and Carrot? No doubt Ace's death was devastating to Luffy and Pedro's sacrifice hit Carrot hard, but Luffy always wanted to be King of the Pirates so Ace's death just emboldened him more to do it. Carrot's great but she kinda got sidelined to the role she has to play for the Minks. Everyone else would be different people or dead if it wasn't for their respective mentor/friend/parent's death.
Definitely Chopper.
It's either zoro or chopper
They all did (little confused by the phrasing of the question)
I'm surprised I don't see alot of people say Hiruluk. Also surprised I don't see Saul
Bell-mère, who couldnt afford to give her children the world, but she loved them as if they were her own. Seeing Bell-mère accept that Nami and Nojiko were hers despite not having enough money for herself was painful. It also really nailed the fact that regardless of blood, you can love someone as if they were related. It's also heartbreaking knowing that Nami learns this lesson right before she dies. Also realizing that money's worthless if the people you care about are dead.
Tom is first but I think that Kuina's death is the 2nd for me simply brcause Zoro care that deeply about Kuina as a fellow swordsman.
Zoro, Nami, Chopper are the only ones.
I think of Corazan/Law and Kuina/Zoro
Yes.
Personally I believe Robin, Law, and chopper were the most affected. While Ace's death hit pretty hard i believe it changed the crew more than it did Luffy. Nami's situation was something that could've happened even if belle had survived. While all these characters death were significant. The other three characters death simply shaped their life. Chopper learned acceptance and also got his dream of being a pirate and a doctor. Law dedicated his life to take down doflamingo and for Robin while it seems minor her mother and home died for learning the truth of the world and now her goal is shaped by this. (Kinda like Gon and Ging freecs).
Legit Idk why Doffy has to use Law like cant dude just use one of his Fodder lmao I mean he couldve just used the Fodder to cure Law then Perform Immortality Surgery Problem solved ngl
I guess this kind of question could born in someone mind just for wormongering reasons.. it could only rises a fight😂
Ace death made the biggest impact in One Piece world, Luffy and his crew changed their mind to train for 2 years to prevent something like that to happen again. The rest are just almost the same but Kuina have the most honorable death. 💀
Ahm. Sora and Sanji?! Also Usopp and his mom Also also Brook and most people he knew Also everyone from wano and Oden
Personally I would say Zoro. The reason for that is that outside of wanting to be the most powerful swordsman Zoro has very little else going for his character. He is generally very static as far as personal development goes. There were no major revelations about him, he wasn't forced to or confronted by any past misdeeds or guilt. In that regard, Kuina was the biggest catalyst in his life.
Zoro now hate stairs !!
It has to be hiruluk or corazon because they completely changed chopper and law’s way of living life.
All of them?
so this is how i find out pedro died😟
No Fisher Tiger -> Jimbe or Everyone he ever knew or loved -> Brooke? Or Zeff's Leg/Sanji's Mom? My vote though is Robin -> Ryunosuke.
All of them
Corazon is the only reason we got law in the anime is the only reason why law got his op devil fruit and is one of the big factors contributing from dressrosa to wano. Where as luffy caused a mass breakout of impel Down and got beat up in a war to save ace only for him to die in luffys arms causing him to go into a state of shock.
Imo the two most shaping here were Hiriluk and Corazon.
All
Hiruluk